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Labour Should “Do to Farmers What Thatcher Did to Miners”, Tony Blair Aide Says

by Will Jones
12 November 2024 5:30 PM

A former aide to Tony Blair has called on Labour to “do to the farmers what Thatcher did to the miners“. The Telegraph has more.

John McTernan, who was Sir Tony’s Political Secretary, told the Chancellor not to budge on her inheritance tax raid on agricultural land, saying Labour “don’t need small farmers”.

Under changes announced by Rachel Reeves last month, farming assets worth more than £1 million will be liable for 20% inheritance tax from next year.

“If the farmers want to go on the streets, we can do to them what Margaret Thatcher did to the miners,” Mr. McTernan told GB News.

“It’s an industry we can do without. If people are so upset that they want to go on the streets and spread slurry, then we don’t need small farmers.”

Thousands of farmers, including Jeremy Clarkson, are expected to descend on Westminster on November 19th to oppose Ms. Reeves’s new tax, claiming it will force many family farms out of business.

Some are threatening more radical plans, including targeting ports and disrupting supermarket supply chains by withholding produce and livestock.

The move to blockade ports would mirror widespread protests across Europe earlier this year, when farmers used their tractors to barricade the Belgian port of Zeebrugge, as well as the routes to several ports in Germany.

'We can do to the farmers what Thatcher did to the miners. We don't need small farmers.'

Former Labour political advisor John McTernan hits out at small farmers. He claims it's an 'industry we could do without'. pic.twitter.com/OAFu8lq2KH

— GB News (@GBNEWS) November 12, 2024

Worth reading in full.

Tags: Farmer protestsFarmingInheritance TaxKeir StarmerLabourMargaret ThatcherMiningTony Blair

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PRSY
PRSY
6 months ago

Parts of my home town still think it’s 1984. It appears parts of the wider Labour movement think the same. Nasty people.

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Dinger64
Dinger64
6 months ago
Reply to  PRSY

Same here, but boy, we could do with the coal now!

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iconoclast
iconoclast
6 months ago
Reply to  PRSY

At least we know what Labour’s real purpose is – destroy family farms with inheritance tax so everyone will vote Labour in the Shires and end up working for min wage for Bill Gates’ Factory Farming Inc. conglomerate.

How much has Gates’ Foundation been paying Labour?

Probably was cheap 411 pairs of prescription glasses for cheap Labour MPs from the company advertising for £6 per pair.

Of course Starmer has his £6 pair because he is too worried he might lose the £4k pair Lord Ali bought him.

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RW
RW
6 months ago

I’m wondering why he didn’t call them Kulaks.

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Insurrectionist
Insurrectionist
6 months ago

Bring it on, be just like my home mining town in the 80s.. And I’ll be there..
In fact covid reminded me of those days, we didn’t quite have the police (military dressed as police) road blocks but it wasn’t far off….

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Ron Smith
Ron Smith
6 months ago
Reply to  Insurrectionist

Both sides were at it as I’m sure you remember. Scabs were the names of those who chose to breach the picket lines and go to work. Seen old footage of Busses with armour plating and the drivers & passengers in helmets because of the attacks on them and the vehicles they were traveling in. Not a great fan of Channel Four but they did a good three part documentary on it last year.

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Insurrectionist
Insurrectionist
6 months ago
Reply to  Ron Smith

It was a pretty crazy time indeed…

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sskinner
sskinner
6 months ago

Is John McTernan aware of the Holodomor and does he think Stalin a roll model?

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GlassHalfFull
GlassHalfFull
6 months ago
Reply to  sskinner

The Holodomor was a natural event and nothing to do with Stalin.

“The idea of “holodomor” as an intentional or man-made genocide which specifically targeted Ukrainians and was used to crush Ukrainian nationalists fails on multiple fronts.”
 
In summary, here are the established facts regarding the situation 1932–1933:
 
Natural drought played a role in creating the situation.
 
Ex-landowning kulaks and Ukrainian nationalists did in fact refuse to work, murder collective workers, slaughter their own cattle, and otherwise actively sabotage the sowing and harvesting campaigns.
 
Importing industrial machinery was the reason for exporting amounts of food in order to increase production as fast as possible.
 
The cycle of famines which had existed for centuries prior and inherited by the Soviet authorities ended after the industrialization and collectivization policies had been fully implemented and the nazi invasion had ended.
 
Under Stalin, the Ukrainization policy went into effect for over a decade before being changed due to rabid bourgeois Ukrainian nationalist elements exploiting it for treasonous activities.
 
Stalin did not harbor any unique hostility to the Ukrainian nationalists any more than he did the Russian nationalists who he fought in the civil war or even the Georgian nationalists who he fought in the August uprising.
 
The Ukrainian nationalist movement in question was heavily tied to anti-semitism & fascistic beliefs before the 1930’s and exposed themselves in their true goals by aligning with nazi Germany in their hopes to create an ethno-state.
 
Central Soviet Authorities sent hundreds of thousands of tonnes of food to the Ukrainians from other regions and Stalin himself personally intervened to scold a regional Russian official objecting to sending aid and made him send food.
 
The situation of hunger encompassed the entire union to varying degrees, including impacting ethnic Russians.
 
The situation in Ukraine during 1932–1933 was not intentional or man-made by Joseph Stalin or the Central Soviet Authorities.
 
The overwhelming and vast majority of countries on this planet do not recognize this situation as being a “genocide”.
https://discomfiting.medium.com/holodomor-fact-or-fiction-17324ffe1d46
 
 
 
 

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Insurrectionist
Insurrectionist
6 months ago
Reply to  GlassHalfFull

Who exactly has compiled that???

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GlassHalfFull
GlassHalfFull
6 months ago
Reply to  Insurrectionist

Some guy called Anton.
It is all referenced.

If you want further details that the Holodomor was a natural event try here …..

“Revisiting the perspective brought forth by Douglas Tottle, we are reminded of the importance of a nuanced understanding of the famine. Tottle’s painstaking exposure of fraud, manipulation, and the selective use of evidence in the genocide claim uncovers a troubling alignment with the interests of extremist Ukrainian groups such as the OUN. By revealing these connections and the ways in which the fraudulent narrative served their purposes, he brings to light the deeply problematic reduction of the Holodomor to a Ukrainian-centric tragedy or a simplistic genocide. Such an approach obscures the broader socioeconomic context, denies the interconnected suffering that affected various ethnicities, and undermines the multifaceted nature of the crisis. Engaging with this more complex view is not only an intellectual endeavor but an ethical obligation to honor the memory and experiences of all who endured that difficult period.”
https://ddgeopolitics.substack.com/p/f23f5fff-430a-4eb5-b80e-676dfb1d5440
 
 And here ……
 
Counterpunch has 27 articles on the lies about the Holodomor.
https://www.counterpunch.org/search-results/?cx=000357264939014560440%3Aicshsy4bfu0&ie=UTF-8&q=holodomor#gsc.tab=0&gsc.q=holodomor&gsc.page=1

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RW
RW
6 months ago
Reply to  Insurrectionist

Some fellow Stalinist.

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Jack the dog
Jack the dog
6 months ago
Reply to  GlassHalfFull

I think you’re wrong about that.

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sskinner
sskinner
6 months ago
Reply to  GlassHalfFull

What are your views on Solzhenitsyn?

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GlassHalfFull
GlassHalfFull
6 months ago
Reply to  sskinner

I have no views on him.
All I know is that he wrote “The Gulag Archipelago” which I used to give people as a charade to act out as it was so difficult.
If I wanted to know more about him I would use my “trusted” sources to form a well read and educated opinion.

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RW
RW
6 months ago
Reply to  sskinner

Ah yes, the infamous Stalin roll, cast after his very own image!

🙂 🙂

Sorry for the silly joke but I simply love this typo.

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sskinner
sskinner
6 months ago
Reply to  RW

Oh dear, yes. I can’t change it so I’ll have to own it. Wonder if Greggs would sell it and what would be in it.

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Ozone
Ozone
6 months ago

First they wanted to import all the gas, now they want to import all our food. How does this help us meet CO2 targets exactly?
I also noticed that Kier and pals flew to COP, couldn’t they get the train or use an electric car?
A skeptical person might think this is all BS…

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Insurrectionist
Insurrectionist
6 months ago
Reply to  Ozone

..

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Dinger64
Dinger64
6 months ago
Reply to  Ozone

After thatcher sold off all the family silver!
Well said Ozone

Last edited 6 months ago by Dinger64
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sskinner
sskinner
6 months ago
Reply to  Ozone

Because once we are net importers of food and energy all anyone of the global elites has to do is switch it all off.

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Heretic
Heretic
6 months ago
Reply to  sskinner

Nailed it !!!

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Pete Sutton
Pete Sutton
6 months ago

Labour revealed in all their brazen psychopathy.

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Insurrectionist
Insurrectionist
6 months ago

.
https://youtu.be/Phoqxoolol0?si=n6VqTzEB3IpBLxhF

Time to bin those seed oils

Last edited 6 months ago by Insurrectionist
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Dinger64
Dinger64
6 months ago
Reply to  Insurrectionist

Seed oil! You mean tractor lubricant?
Sunflower,rapeseed and all the rest is the most processed human food on earth and should never be ingested

Last edited 6 months ago by Dinger64
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iconoclast
iconoclast
6 months ago
Reply to  Dinger64

I stopped roasting potatoes in Sunflower oil when I saw the shellac-like coating left by it on the roasting tray.

Whatever that is you are eating it.

I turned to Olive oil and no residue of any kind was noticeable.

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Dinger64
Dinger64
6 months ago
Reply to  iconoclast

👍

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Jack the dog
Jack the dog
6 months ago
Reply to  Insurrectionist

Interesting video, thanks.

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JXB
JXB
6 months ago

It’s best not to give any credence to what mentally ill people say.

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Freddy Boy
Freddy Boy
6 months ago

10 minutes in an empty room with a farmer would sort this c-nt out !

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Steve-Devon
Steve-Devon
6 months ago

A political adviser telling us what we do not need!

“Whoever could make two ears of corn, or two blades of grass, to grow upon a spot of ground where only one grew before, would deserve better of mankind, and do more essential service to his country, than the whole race of politicians put together.”
If we are looking at things we do not need I would put political advisers a huge step above small farmers.

Having spent my career in agriculture and horticulture I recall how years ago we derided the ineffective and incompetent Soviet collective farms and yet here were are pushing down that route. They want everything to be big, corporate and under their thumb, ostensibly free market but in reality pretty close to a Soviet State collective operation. It is a dismal, grey and uninspiring vision for the future and not a world in which I feel at home.

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Heretic
Heretic
6 months ago
Reply to  Steve-Devon

Wonderful quote! Who said that?

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Steve-Devon
Steve-Devon
6 months ago
Reply to  Heretic

Jonathan Swift, Gulliver’s Travels

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Heretic
Heretic
6 months ago
Reply to  Steve-Devon

Thank you!

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Dinger64
Dinger64
6 months ago
Reply to  Steve-Devon

Politicians, lawyers,solicitors,accountants and criminals stand nessasary only in a frivolous world!

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EppingBlogger
EppingBlogger
6 months ago

My father was a smal farmer and always resented the attention and high wages paid to miners. he pointed out most of them were, or descended from rural workers on other parts of the country who went into the mines for bigger money. He resented the way they used monomopy and political power to get higher wages and better benefits that farm workers or farmers themselves.

The media used to be full of the high injury and death rate among miners. They never discussed the higher rate among farmers and farm workers. The latter did not get sickness benefit or high pensions. NB I see this government has given the surplus in the miners pension scheme to the miners even though the cash came from tax payers.

The tone of the Blairite commentator sugests they view small farmers as Kulaks. Thereby to be monstered by the socialists in power.

They all seem to think food comes from supermarkets. How wrong they are. What a disastrous five years we are in for – thanks Tories for so screwing up they got in.

Vote Reform!

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RW
RW
6 months ago

Farmers produce food. In the grand scheme of things, what do former Tony Blair aides produce which is useful to anyone but themselves?

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sskinner
sskinner
6 months ago
Reply to  RW

Hot air? Could be used to heat up a small village. There would need to be filters to remove the sound of his voice though.

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mrbu
mrbu
6 months ago
Reply to  RW

If only the manure they spout could be put on the fields and do some good…

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minkybink
minkybink
6 months ago

As pointed out elsewhere; that appears to be Len McCluskey’s slow witted brother.

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Jack the dog
Jack the dog
6 months ago

Much of the essence of all that is best of Britishness resides in the countryside and small towns and that is why they need to be destroyed.

The miners too were destroyed not for economic reasons but because they were seen as a threat to the state. Scargill made it easy for the govt but they were doomed any which way.

The great universities, public schools, the church, the Army – all destroyed.

See the pattern yet?

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huxleypiggles
huxleypiggles
6 months ago
Reply to  Jack the dog

Exactly.

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Heretic
Heretic
6 months ago

His words are truly shocking. He fails to mention that it was his & Scargill’s Communist masters in Russia and Poland who benefitted most from “shutting down the industry”, as he so blandly puts it.

The British miners were destroyed, but the British Taxpayers were forced to keep subsidising the EU coal mining industry in Poland and Romania, and probably still are, while we are forced to import coal from them and Russia.

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Dinger64
Dinger64
6 months ago
Reply to  Heretic

And Australia! Importing coal from 12000 miles away when it’s only 1 mile beneath our feet! Oh the lexicon of common sense seems to have abandoned us!

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Heretic
Heretic
6 months ago
Reply to  Dinger64

I didn’t know that— thanks. More proof that our own elected politicians hate us.

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Marcus Aurelius knew
Marcus Aurelius knew
6 months ago

Speechless at how completely topsy-turvy this man’s understanding of history is. Struggling to know where to start explaining how completely befuddled and confused he his. Goodness me.

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Gezza England
Gezza England
6 months ago

I hope shops refuse to sell him food.

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Old Arellian
Old Arellian
6 months ago
Reply to  Gezza England

And all eateries – restaraunts, cafes, market stalls and no biscuits at Trade Union meetings

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Rusty123
Rusty123
6 months ago

Can only assume that this idiot doesn’t eat then, where does he think food comes from, “tesco’s” etc

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ChrisA
ChrisA
6 months ago

We don’t need small farmers, we have bug factories in the pipeline…..
My God do these people hate us.

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Pilla
Pilla
6 months ago

What an evil thing to say. Difficult to take on board what’s come our way in this Labour government, though I’ve been telling my husband for ages that once the Labour government were in they would start ramping things up, no holds barred. And it’s happening!

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marebobowl
marebobowl
6 months ago

This man will regret his words.the farmers have had enough. No farmers, no food. Perhaps this man has a plan for,that?

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Heretic
Heretic
6 months ago
Reply to  marebobowl

Yes, same plan as the Holodomor.

Famine is the plan.

Depopulation Agenda.
Target: White Countries Only.

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