Israeli football fans have been kicked and beaten on the streets of Amsterdam on Thursday night by a pro-Palestine mob shouting “now you know how it feels”. The Telegraph has more.
Dutch police arrested at least 57 people after fans of Maccabi Tel Aviv football club were attacked in a riot on Thursday night described as “a pogrom” and “Jew hunt” by Israeli media.
Some fans were forced to leap into canals or hide in hotels to escape. Rioters shouted slogans like “free Palestine” and “now you know how it feels” during the violence.
Ten Israelis were injured and three are still missing, with footage on social media showing supporters being chased with knives, a pedestrian hit by a car and a man in a canal being ordered to say “free Palestine”, after the Thursday night Europa League match against Dutch side Ajax. …
The violence came after hundreds of Maccabi supporters gathered at the city’s National Monument in Dam Square, where police made several arrests on Thursday for breach of the peace.
There had been a heavy police presence in the city ahead of two major football matches coinciding with a week of Free Palestine demonstrations, and Dutch authorities had named a number of likely trouble spots ahead of time, including Dam Square.
Footage shared on social media in the lead up to the match showed the visitors shouting “F— Palestine” and tearing down Palestinian flags.
Rioting broke out on Thursday evening when other groups at the National Monument chanted pro-Palestinian slogans at the Israeli fans, Dutch media reported.
Footage later emerged of men being chased and dragged down cobblestone streets after the football match.
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Israel has sent ‘rescue planes’ to Amsterdam after locals came after and attacked numerous Israeli ‘Maccabi Tel Aviv’ fans for tearing down Palestinian flags, chanting “F*ck Palestine,” and mocking dead children in Gaza, before the Champions’ League Match against ‘Ajax.’
Some of the Israelis were soldiers.
Israeli ‘Maccabi Tel Aviv’ fans did not only tear down Palestinian flags and chant violent slogans against Arabs – they also reportedly refused to respect the moment of silence held for the Valencia flood victims and intentionally interrupted it.
These thugs were born psychotic and deserved everything they got.
There is a war now in the middle east and there wasn’t before the October 7th atrocity. The Palestinians deserve everything they’ve got. The hamas terrorists’ tactic of locating arms caches and command posts in schools and hospitals was documented well before the current outbreak of violence.
Sad for Palestinian children killed and maimed, obviously. Their parents are mostly to blame.
Don’t be ridiculous.
The war started in 1948 not from October 7th.
And it was the Arabs who started it.
You are delusional.
You’ll be saying next that the French Resistance were responsible for the horrors in France during WWII.
It is you who is delusional. The only war that occurred in 1948 was the Arab-Israeli War, and that was started by the Arab nations surrounding the newly formed state of Israel. Oh, and they got their arses handed to them on a plate.
Jews have been killing Palestinians for many, many years.
1.Haifa massacre 1937
2.Jerusalem massacre 1937
3.Haifa massacre 1938
4.Balad al-sheikh massacre 1939
5.Haifa massacre 1939
6.Haifa massacre 1947
7.Abbasiya massacre 1947
8.Al-khisas massacre 1947
9.Bab al-amud massacre 1947
10.Jerusalem massacre 1947
11.Sheikh bureik massacre 1947
12.Jaffa massacre 1948
12a. Tantura massacre 1948
13.Khan yunis massacre 1956
14.Jerusalem massacre 1967
15.Sabra and shatila massacre 1982
16.Al-aqsa massacre 1990
17.Ibrahimi mosque massacre 1994
18.Jenin refugee camp April 2002
19.Gaza massacre 2008-09
20.Gaza massacre 2012
21.Gaza massacre 2014
22.Gaza massacre 2018-19
23.Gaza massacre 2021
24.Gaza Genocide 2023 is still ongoing.
So it didn’t start in 1948? I wish you’d make your mind up.
1517 – pogrom against Jewish community of Hebron (what, Jews in Israel before 1948? No way!).
1660 – pogrom against Jews in Safed and Tiberias.
1834 – further pogroms against the Jews of Hebron and Safed.
1838 – further attacks on the Jews of Safed, forcing the Jewish community to flee the city.
1920 – Nebi Musa riots, 4 Jews killed.
1929 – further massacres of Jews in Hebron and Safed.
1936 – Jaffa pogrom.
1938 – Tiberias pogrom.
The fact you mention ‘Jews killing Palestinians for many, many years’ without mentioning any of the above shows how one dimensional your piss poor arguments are.
Your list is incomplete but I guess you know that?
Yes, too many to mention.
Ooooooh, 4 Jews dying in 1920, how horrible.
It pales in to insignificance to modern times.
Between 2008 and 2020 deaths of Palestinians were 5,590 compared to a paltry 251 Jews.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rClsarOLYoI
MUST WATCH: Former Hamas member Mosab Hassan Yousef speaking in 2017 on behalf of UN Watch
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u9CZI4K4A1k
Son of Hamas Co-Founder Denounces Group at UN, Exposes ‘Savage’ Indoctrination of Palestinian Kids
He worked as an Israeli spy and fled to the US to take the Yankee dollar in 2007.
He only speaks for himself and his Israeli and US handlers and is a total irrelevance to Palestine.
Predictable response. I’m surprised you didn’t mention the banks?
I see you’re very selective in your argument. I wonder if that goes for the rest of your opinions?
Yet again, no separation of civilian and combatant casualties in your chart. I wonder why?
I read a lot from trusted sources on subjects that interest me and then form an opinion.
If new evidence comes to light I am happy to change my mind.
Many Israelis are either in or reservists for the IDF so the distinction between civilian and soldier is blurred.
Are these 4 young Israeli women civilians or IDF?
So we shouldn’t separate civilian and combatant deaths in Gaza because most adult Israelis are also IDF reservists? What an utterly bizarre line of thought.
The bizarre line of thought is people like you who condone the deaths of 43,300 in Gaza 70% of whom are women and children.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cn5wel11pgdo
You have the debating skills of a sixth former. You don’t have the ability for critical thinking so keep referring to emotive arguments instead of sticking to facts.
According to the Chair of Urban Warfare Studies at West Point’s Modern War Institute, John Spencer, “Israel has done more to prevent civilian casualties in war than any military in history,” he posted on LinkedIn. His studies reveal that the ratio of enemy belligerent deaths to civilian deaths in Gaza is on the order of 1 to 1.0-1.5.
And quoting the BBC is worse than pointless.
You can quote as many Zionist clowns as you like it doesn’t alter the fact that civilian casualties at the hands of the IDF are horrendous and is a genocide and ethnic cleansing by the apartheid Israeli regime by all definitions.
Of course, everyone you disagree with is a Zionist clown, even though in this case his reputation as an analyst of warfare depends on his impartiality.
There’s no genocide or ethnic cleansing going on in Gaza and there’s no apartheid in Israel. Hyperbolic emotional manipulation is no substitute for hard facts.
As I’ve said previously, if you were as fanatical in your condemnation of Turkey, Syria and Iran, I’d believe you actually cared about civilIan deaths. But what do we get? Tumbleweed. And what single attribute separates Israel from those nations that would want someone to hold them to a higher standard of accountability than those I’ve mentioned? I wonder.
If you’re gonna start doing history, Arabs and Jews have been slaughtering each other since time immemorial.
The situation now is you have a relatively liberal democracy, the only one in the middle east (Israel) the only country where for example gay Arabs can live without the fear of being launched off a high building, surrounded by essentially terrorist states desperately poor and deeply authoritarian whose terrorist leaders are committed to the destruction of Israel and the murder of the Jews.
My sympathies are broadly with Israel. Not blindly but broadly. It wasn’t Israel that started the current round of horror.
Lol… The Zionists invented terrorism
“If you’re gonna start doing history, Arabs and Jews have been slaughtering each other since time immemorial.”
So what, does that men the bankers and MIC should make billions out of it???
“The situation now is you have a relatively liberal democracy”
So what, what does that justify??…. So if they are a liberal democracy they can do as they please can they..
Deuded beyond all measure
The bankers? You must have a subscription to The Morning Star, or perhaps China Daily.
This is a bit of a broken record.
It’s called facts…
Arabs and Jews lived side by side for centuries in relative peace until Zionism reared it’s ugly head in the late 19th century.
Try reading some books not written by Tommy Robinson, Douglas Murray and the rest of the “establishment” Zionist fan boys.
It started in 1933 in Germany actually. The Arabs just took over where the National Socialists left off.
Its time people realised that.
“There is a war now in the middle east and there wasn’t before the October 7th atrocity.”
Says you sat in your armchair,..
I’ve never heard such arrogance..
Actually I don’t even possess an armchair.
So, more factual errors and lazy projection from our resident jew hater.
It was Palestinian “children” who crossed into Israel on 07 October – well they had mothers and fathers so they were somebody’s children. And those children were made by the whole Palestinian village.
And today’s Palestinian children given ten to fifteen years would do the same if they get the chance.
It’s war. In war there are no innocent civilians just the enemy and each one is a target.
The same clownlike tin foil hatters with the same old anti-Semitic tropes and the same old tired excuses. Your bigoted hatred of Jews and apologism for the backwards fools of Hamas and Hezbollah knows no bounds. The only people peddling the same narrative as you are other antisemites such as al jazeera and the useful idiots of the bourgeois ‘left’. Everyone else saw the indiscriminate attacks by clueless racist Islamists for exactly what they were – cowardly attacks.
You need to do some reading..
“Everyone else saw the indiscriminate attacks by clueless racist Islamists for exactly what they were – cowardly attacks.”
Cowardly attacks… Wow… Do you have any idea how many cowardly attacks the IDF have carried out,
You all talk like the IDF are saints.. It’s fucking astonishing.
Hamas could fight away from schools, hospitals and children in general, but they need the deaths, so draw Israeli fire down on their own people. I watched many of the Hamas videos that appeared on YouTube soon after Oct 7th and thanks to Google translate got to see what a death cult Hamas is and Islam. Here is one such comment praising one act of barbarism:
ا لا يفهمه الغرب أننا نحن المسلمين لا نخاف من الموت في الحرب ونعتبره شهادة وسبب دخولنا للجنة وهذا ما جعل فئة قليلة من المقاومة تزعزع جيشا كبيرا. فالإسرائيليين والأمريكيين والأوروبيين يخافون من الموت بشكل مرعب جدا جدا وهو كابوسهم. لذلك سيجدون المقاومة في انتظارهم. فموت جندي إسرائيلي أو أمريكي واحد يعتبرونه كموت ألف جندي. تحية لفلسطين الأبطال من المغرب.أما نحن فالدنيا عندنا لا تساوي شيئا والدليل الجندي والشرطي المصريين الذين قتلا الإسرائيليين واستشهاد الجندي. والدليل الفليسطينيين يدخلون وسط الدبابات الإسرائيلية دون خوف. لو وجدت طريقة للإنخراط مع المقاومة لأجاهد في سبيل الله لذهبت بكل فرح وسرور.
Translation
What the West does not understand is that we Muslims are not afraid of death in war, and we consider it a testimony and the reason for our entry into Paradise, and this is what made a small group of resistance destabilize a large army. Israelis, Americans, and Europeans fear death in a very, very terrifying way, and it is their nightmare. So they will find resistance waiting for them. The death of one Israeli or American soldier is considered the death of a thousand soldiers. Greetings to Palestine, the heroes from Morocco. As for us, the world is worth nothing, and the evidence is the Egyptian soldier and policeman who killed the Israelis and the soldier’s martyrdom. The evidence is that the Palestinians enter among the Israeli tanks without fear. If I had found a way to join the resistance and fight for the sake of God, I would have gone with all joy and happiness.
Morroco? Isn’t that where those two Swedish girls had their heads hacked off.
Why would you feel the need to post that???
Do you expect me to disagree with the content??
Its bizarre, I doesn’t have to be one or the other, you’ve polarisated it like so many on here do..
I agree with the contents of your post.
If Hamas are terrorists (which they are), Then the Israel State is too…..
They were cowardly attacks. Driving around picking off football supporters returning to their hotels after the match is cowardly. The attacks were coordinated long before the football match took place by retarded Islamists.
They chucked a man in a canal and wouldn’t allow him out until he said ”free Palestine”. As these scumbags always go round in packs and hunt lone targets, because that’s the hallmark of bullies, after all, I’d say that’s pretty bloody cowardly;
”Jewish man THROWN INTO RIVER during night of targetted attacks against Jews in Amsterdam.
The Arab mob demanded he shout ‘Free Palestine’ in order to allow him to swim out. ”
https://x.com/OliLondonTV/status/1854867736842875036
Agree with Oli. How much longer must we put up with these vile people?
”Enough is enough.
It’s time to declare the Free Palestine movement a Terrorist Organization.
After lasts nights shocking violent attacks against Israelis in Amsterdam, where pro-Palestine mobs beat hundreds of Israelis in the streets, threw a Jewish man in a river, stormed into hotels, kidnapped Jews and assaulted anyone they suspected of being Jewish- the world must take immediate action against this dangerous and violent movement and call these people what they are- terrorists.”
It is you who are in the minority along with the rest of the racist bigots who don’t like people with brown faces.
All the trusted geopolitical analysts I have been following for 40+ years are on the side of the Palestinians.
Brainwashed fools like you and those too lazy to find out the truth or at the very least the view from the other side are the ones supporting the genocidal, apartheid foreign invaders of Palestine.
Yawn. If you were as vocal in your condemnation of Turkey as you are of Israel, I might believe you. Your lack of understanding of ancient and modern history of Judea is remarkable. Did you know that there is no ‘p’ in Arabic?
You have no idea what my understanding is.
I have been well read on Israel for 40+ years.
The understanding I have is based on your halfwitted ramblings that have no bearing on reality.
“Your bigoted hatred of Jews”????????
I admire many Jews.
How can people who criticize the brutal apartheid Israeli government be called anti-Semitic or “Jew haters” when there are, or were, so many Jewish people to admire like Sir Gerald Kaufman MP, writer and musician Gilad Atzmon, Professor Shlomo Sand, Writer Noam Chomsky, Norman Finklestein, Richard Falk, Gabriel Kolko, Dr. Norton Mezvinsky, Henry Siegman, Judge Richard Goldstone, Professor Don Peretz, journalist Eric Rouleau, Harvard Professor Sara Roy, Professor Jennifer Loewenstein, former Minister in the South African government Ronnie Kasrils, Professor Saul Landau, Professor Zachery Lochman, Professor Joel Beinin, Professor Ian Lustick, Professor Edward Herman, writer Stephen Lendman, Anthony Loewenstein, Professor Steven Zunes, Stanley Heller, Danny Schechter, Lenni Brenner, Jeff Blankfort, author and journalist Alain Gresh, Professor Cheryl Rubenberg, renown author Philip Roth, Professor Michael Selzer, Professor David Fromkin, Professor Emeritus in the Political Science Department at Boston University, Howard Zinn, author Seymour M. Hersh, Bob Simon, Senior CBS Foreign Correspondent, Barry Lando, former CBS Correspondent, Democracy Now radio host Amy Goodman, media critic Norman Solomon, writer Bennett Muraskin, Professor Lawrence Davidson, Jerome M. Segal, director of the Peace Consultancy Program at the University of Maryland’s Center for International and Security Studies, Professor Mark Levine, Rabbi Michael Lerner, Rabbi Brant Rosen, Jewish Voice for Peace activist Sydney Levy, Mark Braverman, author Phylis Bennis, journalist and editor David Finkel, Professor Mark Ellis, Joel Fischer, Professor University of Hawaii School of Social Work Honolulu, Professor Noel Ignatiev, Santa Barbara University of California Professor Bill Robinson, Allan C. Brownfeld editor of the American Council for Judaism Issues magazine, New York University Professor Bertrell Ollman, Dr. Gideon Polya, an Australian academic, activist and writer Ralph Schoenman, writer Mike Marquisee, Swedish activists Snorre Lindquist and Lasse Wilhelmson, New York Times journalist Anthony Lewis, journalist Robert Scheer, journalist and blogger Philip Weiss, journalist Adam Horowitz, blogger Richard Silverstein, activist and writer Tim Wise, State University of New York Professor Eric Alterman, Tsela Barr, Judith Laitman and Haley Michaels Pollack, members of Madison Friends of Jewish Voice for Peace, Michelle Goldberg, activist and writer Adrienne Weller, Dan Leiberman, Editor of Alternative Insight, Dr. Marc Sapir, Hannah Mermelstein, Anna Baltzser, Professor Sharon Weill, Professor Randall Kuhn, author Ben Ehrenreich, actor Ed Asner, and many other leading Jewish activists, intellectuals and religious figures and all those young, brave Israelis who refuse to join the IDF?
So you can cut and paste. Well done.
I’d like to see the evidence first.
Here’s the latest in the Dutch news after a press conference held this afternoon;
“Boys on scooters” were behind multiple attacks on Maccabi Tel Aviv fans in Amsterdam on Thursday evening, Amsterdam mayor Femke Halsema said in a press conference on the events on Friday. She spoke of a “pitch-black” night that has “deeply damaged” the city’s Jewish life and culture. The police are aware of reports that Israelis were abducted in the Dutch capital but have no concrete indications that this actually happened.
Supporters of the Israeli football club Maccabi Tel Aviv were attacked in several places in Amsterdam on Thursday after a match against Ajax. Five people had to go to the hospital for treatment of injuries sustained in the attacks. All five had been discharged by Friday morning, the police said at the press conference. The police are aware of “20 to 30” other Maccabi Tel Aviv supporters who sustained minor injuries.
The police do not have any concrete information confirming rumors that Israelis were kidnapped in Amsterdam. Police chief Peter Holla asked that concerned family members contact them immediately to file an official report about anyone known to be missing. Holla, who took over as chief of police in Amsterdam in early September, said that the police could not give figures on how many people may or may not be missing.
“Amsterdam is reflecting on a ‘pitch-black’ night, and it is still dark today,” Halsema told dozens of journalists gathered at City Hall. The attacks on Jewish football fans were a form of a hit-and-run perpetrated by “boys on scooters” who then raced across the city “fleeing from the police,” she continued.”
https://nltimes.nl/2024/11/08/boys-scooters-targeted-israeli-football-fans-amsterdam-confirmed-abductions
Yea, of course ……without a shred of doubt….
Well, yes there’s always doubt. You have to try to weigh the conflicting evidence and arrive a considered opinion, and be prepared to change it if needs be.
Personally I think the instinctive jew-haters who post here from time to time are wrong on this particular issue, but sometimes right on others.
Far enough, provided they are prepared to consider fresh evidence that conflicts with their previous opinions. Otherwise they’re no better than the leftards.
You wouldn’t know how to doubt and think outside the msm box if you tried, only got to read the post..
“jew hater”.. “leftard”.. It’s straight out of forced narrative playbook..
Oh yea the leftard bs…..its hilarious…
I would question and call out anyone group of people that corrupt our supposed democratic parliament with funds, it just happens that it’s the Israeli Lobby… Does that make me a “instinctive jew hater” or someone that’s simply calling out anti democratic corruption, because I don’t know about you, but I didn’t vote to have the Israeli lobby manipulate our MPs..
I’m more right wing that you’ll ever know, if only you know how much I detest the left, walked away from 30 year old friendships during covid because of it, just because I think what Israel is doing, and has done before 7th Oct that is (history didn’t start then) is abhorrent, doesn’t mean I’m a leftard.. I’m aware of the nuances, the corruption, the MIC, this isn’t just about Israel bombing Arab countries..
I know whats right and wrong, I know injustice when I see it and I refuse to conflate issues. The polarisation here is a joke.. an utter joke, and your post is the epitome of that with your “jew hater,, leftard” bs
…
In all your ramblings here you have shown no sign of knowing the difference between right and wrong .
I am usually right, decent and well informed.
Those who disagree with me are not.
Doesn’t make you a bad person.
You need to learn to read pal.
I didn’t call you a leftard, I merely said that a failure to consider evidence that conflicts with your previous opinion is what leftards do.
And it is.
However if you want to confess that is a question for you and your conscience.
From the footage at the Ajax match nobody appeared to be respecting the minutes silence for the flood victims, there’s too much animosity between the sides. Some terrible scenes posted online so I’ll just share a few and you can make your own mind up, but they were going around in lynch mobs and beating anyone up who didn’t speak Arabic or Dutch, allegedly;
”On the eve of the match with Ajax in Amsterdam, Jewish supporters of Maccabi Tel Aviv were assaulted & beaten by Muslims.
Here one of them drives on the pavement & knocks a man over.”
https://x.com/DaveAtherton20/status/1854804274867294425
https://x.com/DaveAtherton20/status/1854808617930625272
https://x.com/DaveAtherton20/status/1854821047402439137
https://x.com/OliLondonTV/status/1854882334094639330
https://x.com/OliLondonTV/status/1854875741626024190
The ‘religion of peace’ disciples?
I’ll never use that term because it’s the polar opposite of the truth. Let’s just say there’d be a lot less death and misery on earth if that dratted ideology didn’t exist. A recent example. Where the hell do you even begin commenting on something so evil? Mohammed couldn’t cope with the fact he’s attracted to men so murdered his newborn son. Jesus…
”A father who screamed ‘Allahu Akbar’ as he battered his newborn son to death has been found guilty of manslaughter.
Kadees Mohammed, 31, bashed and battered his three-week-old son Ibrahim up against a wall at the family home in Dovey Road, Moseley, Birmingham.
The tiny baby boy’s skull was fractured after being squeezed. He was rushed to hospital where he was pronounced dead a short time later.
Mohammed’s wife, Mehwish Mubashir, had woken to find her husband kneeling over their son screaming ‘Allahu Akbar’ – God is Great in Arabic.
She and her mother, Raqyi Bi, were also hurt when Mohammed attacked them with an iron as they tried to stop him.
When police arrested Mohammed they found the Grindr dating app on his phone with evidence he was ‘struggling with his sexuality’.”
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14055809/father-guilty-manslaughter-baby-son.html?ns_mchannel=rss&ns_campaign=1490&ito=social-twitter_mailonline
Horrible.
I’d be curious to know who here doesn’t find the murder of a new born baby horrible.
If I had ti guess I’d say it was ..
Well actually I’m not going to guess out loud, but by the tone of his other imbecilic posts on the subject of Jews I think we all know whom I mean.
Mental health issues, my arse. He couldn’t reconcile his sexuality with his religion and so reacted in the violent way that his religion likes to encourage people to do. How peaceful.
If he hadn’t been a follower of that religion, that baby would still be alive. Or maybe never born in the first place as he may have followed his preference instead of marrying a woman.
I have always thought that a minute’s silence should be for ones own dead after military operations or perhaps ones own significant scale deaths due to natural disasters or those helping out. To do that after every foreseeable loss of property and life reduces its significance.
The floods in Spain were entirely due to decisions about flood control and development in an area known to be directly threatened by a period of heavy rainfall such as they knew from records was likely. As Spain removes dams and continues this silly idea of building in flood plains and river valleys there will be more deaths.
Of course as a side issue farms have been devastated. The UK currently sources 40% of its fruit and vegetables from Spain.
Strange?
And the Daily unSceptics have believed every word spouted by the MSM who are controlled by the Zionists..Yet again…
Oh those poor Israelis ,being “victims” again….
Look over there …there’s a hook line and sinker for you all to swallow …
Oh! Look over there; it’s a Hamas sphincter osculator.
Meanwhile, nothing says ”It’s Christmas” like armed police at a Christmas market. They deleted this post when too many people were responding asking ”safe from who?”. Well it’s obviously due to the well-known phenomenon of Christian carol singers kicking off when they’ve been on the sherry, duh! They’ve since put up another post but turned replies off! lol, ffs…Then there’s those ‘diversity barriers’ in cities…presumably to keep the marauding Jews at bay, as we know they’ve got a terrible reputation for mowing down pedestrians;
”Seriously??
Why would you delete this post if you’re so concerned about the public’s safety? Why would you suddenly decide that reassuring people they’ll be ‘safe at Christmas markets’ is not a priority?
That we’re even at the stage of having to guard people at Christmas is what’s TRULY troubling…”
https://x.com/DreyfusJames/status/1854862815212773867
Meanwhile curiously in various stores in a Dubai shopping mall this week they’re selling Christmas decorations and even playing Silent Night over the speakers.
There you go… Just like calling those who questioned the “vaccine” an antivaxxer… Bet you’re one of those who had the vaxx then realised you’d been had 4 years later..
BTW, I take no sides in the Middle East conflict… I just know some facts…
Projection, much? Antisemitism is never a good look, even when it’s dripping wet barstewards of the bourgeois ‘left’.
Lol… “antisemitic”… “left”….
Come on, you can’t be that thick….. Or maybe you can, the idiots always swallow the narrative….
Fully vaxxed up by any chance, mask wearer… I bet
You are anti-Semitic. I saw your support for glasshalffull’s antisemitic tinfoil hattery on another article. You definitely are that thick, you can’t even cover your tracks. You’ve swallowed the narrative of Hamas, Hezbollah and their useful idiots of the bourgeois ‘left’ though, haven’t you? Fully supportive of the EU by any chance? Scared of ‘climate’, I bet.
Lol… Clueless, so far out mate, you really are.. Proves my point really…. Know what I mean…
.. What that climate change on a planet where the climates been changing for 4.5 billion years 
.
Climate
Like I said, thanks for making my point and spouting the forced narrative..
Yes I supported what the poster posted, and agreed with his points, because they were factually correct.
Care to prove me wrong??
I’ve just called out a load of corruption, I don’t give a fuck who it’s carried out by, it just happens to be the Jewish bankers et al…..
Ps, I don’t support any in this Middle East conflict
Are you that much of a simpleton? I didn’t realise I’d need to explain it to you, but here goes… You arrogantly tried to belittle me by sneering at my alleged lack of skepticism by inventing scenarios that you evidently couldn’t and don’t know are true. When I turned your facile comments on their head by throwing them back at you, you then feel the need to explain why you aren’t a climate hysteric. Are you for real?
You’re engaging with somebody who’s on their fourth username, who repeatedly says they’re going to leave the site but both their pathological obsession with trolling other posters and superiority complex with a generous side helping of narcissism means they never actually do, and whose hobby evidently involves being chronically online and over-invested in any threads to do with Jews so they can hurl abuse at anybody who disagrees with them. So what does that tell you about this person’s messed up psychology?
I speak as somebody who has had extensive experience in dealing with toxic, deranged, obsessive fuckwits on here for the last 3.5 years, ( it must be my virtual pheromones ) best to just wash your hands of these inconsequential, unbalanced resident haters. They’ll get bored when they’ve nobody to argue with. Well, unless you want to proceed merely for comedy value and entertainment purposes.
I think you’re telling porkies.
What your Islamic handlers have to say about that?!
Very unclear to me what has happened here as yet. Multiple competing claims online. Reserving judgement.
Fair enough it is an emotionally charged issue!
Football chants in Hebrew translated by Gilad Atzmon the Israeli musician and writer who condemns the Zionist Israeli government.
“This is footage of the Israeli football fans on their way to the Amsterdam stadium yesterday. The are shouting en mass:
“We’ll travel
We’ll win
And we’ll fu-k the Arabs”
I am, of course, against all forms of violence but nothing happens in a vacuum…”
https://t.me/giladatzmon/1537
Erm… they’re football chants, and they are rather frequently offensive and often have roots in events many years ago.
My favourite is I think we’re Millwall everybody hates us and we don’t care.
I mean even the horrendous dirge sung by Scotland fans at rugby matches is basically about hating the English more than about loving their own country and culture.
So meh.
Climbing up buildings and pulling down Palestinian flags of local Muslims transcends football rivalry and causes tension.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-14053391/Israeli-football-hooligans-Palestine-flags-Ajax-Maccabi-Tel-Aviv.html
Muslims. Europe’s biggest threat. Invite Islam and you invite the devil into your home.
Looks like vibrant multiculturalism in action.
Yea.. That with a bit of Zionism mixed it..
It takes two to tango…
As of Oct 24 45000 Palestinians have been killed and 1706 Israelis..
I mean the Nazis would shoot 10:1 in their revenge..
We are at 25:1 and you lot are still not happy…….
Bunch of disgusting pro war, pro corruption, pro MIC zealots
Civilian to combatant deaths in Gaza are roughly 1:1. In WW2 that ratio was 2.5:1. In Iraq it was 3.5:1. Looks like Israel are doing a pretty good job of minimising civilian deaths in their war against the fascistic human shield users of Hamas.
You compare Gaza, the most highly populated area on the planet, full of civilians, being bombed by a high tech military, fully supported by the West with WW2 and Iraq.????
Really???
Exactly. Highly populated and still they manage lower civilian/combatant ratios. The Israelis need to up their game if they’re going to succeed with this ‘genocide’ malarkey.
Try this…
https://www.icc-cpi.int/news/statement-icc-prosecutor-karim-aa-khan-kc-applications-arrest-warrants-situation-state
You’ll find it difficult to swallow… It’s not been in the news…
Karim Khan is an Islamist puppet. It’d be more of an eye opener if he didn’t give such a one sided account.
Arh yes of course..
If I said the equivalent about a jew I’d be antisemitic..
Can you see your hypocrisy shining through…
Did he give a one sided account? Yes he did. I rest my case.
No he didn’t he called for the arrests of BOTH the Hamas leader and Netanyahu..
Did you not read the article??
And you rest your case do you
Did you read the article? His statement is filled with legal illiteracies, that don’t take into account self defence using necessary force.
So i was right, its clear that you are not happy, and want to see more death and destruction.?
What sort of numbers are you looking at Peter…..
What numbers Peter????
What sort of numbers of Syrian or Iraqi or Kurdish deaths would get you spending your life on this comments section? 100,000? Obviously not. 500,000? Maybe a million? Or is Muslim on Muslim atrocities not your thing?
Oh dear, running out of things to post Pete, you really should call it a day… Conflation or what…
Keep to the subject matter… If you can.. We were specifically talking about civilian deaths in Gaza, you made it clear, by justifing the deaths in comparison with WW2 and Iraq, were acceptable..
Now, answer the question.. How many tens of thousands of civilian deaths would you find unacceptable??
Aah, it’s conflation when it’s not Jews doing the killing, is it? Gotcha.
Have a look at the history of the land that is now called Turkey. At least the Jews have a right to call Israel its ancestral homeland.
The point is hamas needs to be extirpated for the benefit of the whole middle east.
At what point will the Palestinians decide you know what fuck this for a game of soldiers, here’s the remaining hostages, here’s the hamas leaders and we’re not that bothered about from the river to the sea, and the whole fucking business would be over in five minutes.
I don’t want to see any moredeath and destruction but hamas terrorists started this round and in my view Israel has every right to seek to wipe the out completely.
Unfortunately they like to hide in schools and hospitals which is leading to a high civilian casualty count, but in the circumstances think the IDF is doing a pretty decent job.
Do you apportion ANY responsibility for Gazan civilian deaths on Hamas and their own tactics?
The IRA understood that the only thing the British would understand was violence, its the end result unfortunately
I strongly believe oct 7th 2023 was a false flag event, which means the answer is rather complex and nuanced, but yes to some degree, however, the proportionate and reasonable response has been far exceeded, giving weight to my false flag event belief
To what degree false flag? I doubt it was Israelis posing as Arabs killing all of those people.
I’m prepared to listen to someone who thinks the Israelis could have stopped it – or maybe even encouraged it (which is not my own view, as yet) – but whether they could have stopped it or not, it was Hamas doing a lot of killing that day, and with glee.
Israelis posing as Arabs…. Oh dear, is that what you would consider a false flag event….
Mossad are far too accomplished to not have know about the impending attack, they were even warned several times by Egypt.
As for your “killing with glee”… I suggest you take a look at what the Israeli soldiers are posting online… And what the IDF have been doing for decades “with glee”
If you don’t call out both sides atrocities in this conflict you are simply parrotting the msm narrative… Just like the rest on here..
I the IDF have been carrying out atrocities in gaza for decades and decades, but you can only talk about what Hamas have done because you’ve been force fed…
Hamas make the cowardly terrorist scum of the IRA look like moral and military titans.
You’re in denial. Can’t explain away the actual targeting of women and children for unspeakable acts of barbarism? Simple – false flag operation! Anything but question your own reasoning and twisted belief system.
And the IRA didn’t embed themselves in tunnels, nor did they use schools and hospitals for command centres and ammunition storage – all within residential areas. Or were those false flag events too?
You are so wedded to the msm narrative is astonishing..
You’re on a Sceptic forum, the reason why the IDF never turned up for over 6 hrs has still not been clarified or understood, a year on and this part of the story has been conveniently forgotten and you are more than happy to unconditionally believe in what the Israeli state says. Why???
All you can do is ridicule the concept of a false flag event..
You can’t see how naive you are, I’m talking to the wrong people here…. You’re a normie mate, to talk like you did about false flag events means you’re a simpleton and a normie.. And I’m not on here to participate in discussions with msm believers like you…
What MSM narrative is that? That Hamas can’t be called terrorists? That UNWRA isn’t being used as a cover by Hamas? That there should be no mention of Hamas rockets being fired continually into Israel over the last 10 or so years? That Hamas has continually broken every peace deal it has agreed to should be ignored? That no separation between the deaths of armed combatants and civilians is necessary? That Hezbollah’s continual disregard for UN resolution 1701 for the last 10 years should be ignored? That UN ‘peacekeepers’ ignoring these transgressions is also swept under the carpet? That MSM narrative? Or are those narratives best ignored because the don’t fit the ‘Jews control the media’ trope?
Can you not see that your victim blaming is classic antisemitism? Your previous comments on other articles state that no acts of barbarism took place. Now you state that they did take place, but it was a cabal of secretive Jews that allowed it to happen.
The reason Hamas terrorists chose October 7th to invade Israel is because it was a national holiday, and as there was no intel showing an invasion was imminent, many members of the IDF were visiting families. Yes, there’s been a huge balls up in how intel is deciphered and that needs investigating, but don’t you think that the most likely explanation is human error and complacency rather than sinister Jews doing what sinister Jews do?
You’re a normie mate… Constantly regurgitating msm bollox….incapable of alternative thought..
Bye
I’d say question everything.. But that’s way beyond you..
Says the man who regurgitates the MSM narrative on a continual basis… If you want a bubble, try the Oxbridge Guardian. They’ll love you there.
False flag event…. The alleged drone attack on Netanyahu residence…. Never happened, the timing was perfect.. a day after the killing of the Hamas leader.. Why.. To ensure they had a retort to any request for the killing to stop now that Isreal have rid Hamas of their leader..
Thats msm is it…
You know I thought during the covid scandemic that at least the one good and perhaps only positive thing that will come out of this is that people will wake up to what the State is capable of… Wishful thinking, listening to you makes me realise there’s no hope, even after all we went through 4 years ago, that extreme level of State over reach, Authoritarian, police state, lies, cronyism, Marxism and corruption has all been lost on you…
Running out of green ink?
Who was it that made the attempt on Trumps life do you tbink Pete?
Do you think it was the spotty kid gunman working alone, just the media portrayed?… I bet you do….
Why should he? I don’t and possibly even you don’t so maybe we agree on something .
You bang on and on about “unspeakable acts of barbarism”.
Thats been happening on both sides for decades.
I can only deduce that the vast majority of people on here knew absolutely nothing about what was occurring in the ME prior to 7th Oct 2023…..you knew nothing.. That’s why all your history starts on 7th Oct 2023…
You’re just a bunch of illinformed Zionist propaganda parrots… So full of the indoctrination, it oozes out of every pore..
Tinfoil hattery of the first order. How are those chem trails coming along? Careful, you might fall off the edge of the earth. That’s if the measles jab doesn’t get you first…
Projection much.
Interesting development on the attackers in Amsterdam here. Apparently they were mostly Uber drivers. You can watch the two short clips in this article;
”Yeshiva World News (YWN) is calling for a global boycott of Uber in response to the horrific, organized attack against Israeli soccer fans in the Netherlands. On Thursday evening, hundreds of Israelis had gathered in Amsterdam to watch Maccabi Tel Aviv play against Ajax when, in a brutal, pre-planned pogrom, Muslim jihadists attacked Jewish fans at train stations, hotels, and other venues. This orchestrated assault left dozens injured and has shaken Jewish communities worldwide.
Shockingly, reports indicate that a significant number of the attackers were Uber drivers who used their positions to locate and target Jews. These claims have circulated widely on social media, yet Uber has remained silent, ignoring the calls for accountability and transparency. YWN, for the first time in its history, is urging Jews around the world to boycott Uber and choose other ride-share options, such as Lyft, until Uber addresses these disturbing allegations and takes meaningful action.”
https://www.theyeshivaworld.com/news/israel-news/2330992/ywn-calls-for-global-boycott-of-uber-after-antisemitic-pogrom-in-the-netherlands.html
“pogrom”… Really, Omfg.. Whatever next
Another interesting development: https://m.jpost.com/diaspora/antisemitism/article-828211
https://www.icc-cpi.int/news/statement-icc-prosecutor-karim-aa-khan-kc-applications-arrest-warrants-situation-state
The Daily unSceptics might find this hard to swallow…
On the basis of evidence collected and examined by my Office, I have reasonable grounds to believe that Benjamin NETANYAHU, the Prime Minister of Israel, and Yoav GALLANT, the Minister of Defence of Israel, bear criminal responsibility for the following war crimes and crimes against humanity committed on the territory of the State of Palestine (in the Gaza strip) from at least 8 October 2023:
Are you finding this hard to swallow…
If Hamas are terrorists (which they are) then the Israel state are too…
What if it transpires in a few years after criminal proceedings that Netanyahu is guilty of the crimes he’s accused of… Would you change your stance on what has happened in Gaza or would you still remain staunch Zionists????
If Netanyahu was found guilty of the crimes he is accused of, I still wouldn’t support barbarous Hamas terrorism.
Who says you have to… Omfg what is it with you lot.
It doesn’t have to be one or the other
I don’t support Hamas ffs but I also don’t have or wish there to be a two teir justice system in regards to the atrocities being carried out in the ME..
But you all do… You want a 2 teir system, all this while you call out Starmer for exactly the same.. You’re all friends of Starmer
But you’d still be a staunch Zionist obviously…
You’re all so indoctrinated and wedded to the msm narrative, you just can’t shake it off.
The msm is designed to polarise… Designed to make you pick a side… Just like you have done..
You should hook up with Pete Rose and get a room…
I’m sure you’d get on rather well…
Give a rest, normie.
First they came for the Jews …
Coming to a city near you, soon.
Europe should hang its head in shame at facilitating this return to the dark days of the Third Reich. BritIsh politicians should ensure that this ugly scourge of anti semitism is dealt with promptly and effectively and should no longer tolerate two tier policing.
The political left is all too ready to inappropriately apply the Fascist label to those with different political views whilst ignoring and apparently facilitating the overt anti semitic fascism that is growing like a cancer in our midst.
Ordinary people will not stand by and watch their own decent values overturned for much longer.
But where does all the hatred come from? The Third Reich was over 80 years ago. 80 years later and Israel is undeniably committing ethnic cleansing against the indigenous Palestinian Arabs in Gaza, otherwise known as mass murder or genocide, call it what you will. Just look at the headlines and the photographs in the alternative media, e.g. https://antiwar.com/ or https://electronicintifada.net/. This is not made up, this is happening today and, unfortunately, European countries (primarily UK and Germany) and especially USA are complicit in this genocide. This is not 80 years ago, this is today.
According to the World Population Review;
Gaza population 1950: 63,444
Gaza population 2024: 800,636
Israel really isn’t very good at ethnic cleansing or genocide, is it?
Where does all the hatred come from, indeed.
Population of Gaza 1945 –
Over 1.75 million.
Population of Gaza 1950-
63,444.
I wonder what happened in between?
No ethnic ceansing at all. Lol.
(My apologies if you meant to be ironic).
Why make stuff up? A quick google search proves you’re talking nonsense. Does that mean we can take everything else you say with a pinch of salt?
Your figures presumably relate(d) to Gaza City as opposed to the complete Gaza Strip, which had a population of over 2 million.
South Africa’s lawyers recently released a further 750 pages documenting Israel’s latest atrocities on the genocide to the ICJ, on top of the original set submitted last year.
You do understand how law works, right?
Submitting a ton of documentation in the hope that something sticks is how, shall we say, less proficient legal teams work and is not proof of guilt.
You’re quite right. We do however have a problem as many of the Islamic fanatics are home grown and can’t be deported. Of course we can and must cracking down immediately on further immigration of Muslims and especially from countries with high levels of Islamic such as Pakistan, Afghanistan, chechnya etc.
Let’s not forget that the Jewish population in the UK at least has been living here peacefully for centuries and has made massive contributions in the fields of art, science politics and culture.
Muslims have excelled mostly at child molesting.
“There had been a heavy police presence in the city ahead of two major football matches…”
Heavy presence? 200 I read in another press report and that the violence had taken the authorities “by surprise”.
If as reported by the DT there was a heavy police presence and trouble spots had been identified – how did this happen? Video reports show little police presence.
Oddly “Far Right” protests against immigration always attract a huge police presence rigged in riot gear.