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Electric Car Insurance Premiums Set to Soar

by Will Jones
8 October 2024 1:43 PM

Electric vehicle insurance premiums are set to soar under a regime shake-up that further penalises EVs for potential damage to batteries, it has been warned. The Telegraph has the story.

Insurance premiums for EVs and Chinese-made cars in particular could skyrocket after a new Vehicle Risk Rating (VRR) system was rolled out last month, an expert said.

VRR will eventually replace the group-based system of insurance, which bands vehicles into 50 separate premium categories.

Five key categories go into the VRR rating, including performance, damageability, safety, security – and “repairability”.

It is this last category that will send EV premiums soaring, Chris Rosamond of Auto Express magazine said, because the insurance industry lacks the information it needs to offer lower premiums on EVs.

Mr. Rosamond said: “If the data does show… as many or most of us expect, that there is this increased risk around batteries, then it’s likely that will emerge in, or be reflected in, premiums down the track.

“If you get a golf ball-sized dent in the battery casing of your new EV, for example, there is no sort of technical reference available for insurers to be able to say with 100% certainty that a repair has fixed that and returned it to, effectively, its original condition.”

Professor David Bailey of the University of Birmingham told the Telegraph that Chinese EV manufacturers are struggling to keep up with the demand for spares for repairers.

“So they’ve entered the market [but] not necessarily set up a distribution system in terms of parts for the vehicles, which has meant that actually getting them repaired at all has proven to be quite difficult,” he said.

“Especially on the EV side. I mean, there’s a combination of things there anyway. One is repairers’ knowledge in general of repairing EVs; not all repairers can do that.”

Worth reading in full.

Tags: Climate AlarmismElectric CarElectric vehicleEVsInsuranceNet Zero

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ElSabio
ElSabio
3 years ago

Give the man woman a prize….

The article goes on to quote Harvard vaccine scientist Amy Sherman as saying, “We have enough clues that it could be a problem.”

Last edited 3 years ago by ElSabio
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Bella Donna
Bella Donna
3 years ago
Reply to  ElSabio

No sh*t Sherlock. Clues were all around and have been since jabbing started but no one in government was paying attention, that is because our health was not of concern, only the introduction of digital passports.

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Henry2
Henry2
3 years ago

This won’t do, this won’t do at all. Will have to get Zuckerberg’s fact checkers on this

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Major Panic in the jabby jabbys
Major Panic in the jabby jabbys
3 years ago
Reply to  Henry2

can we dunk Zuckerberg under water for ten minutes and see if it is a witch?

Last edited 3 years ago by Major Panic in the jabby jabbys
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sophie123
sophie123
3 years ago
Reply to  Major Panic in the jabby jabbys

I think 10 is not enough.

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David Beaton
David Beaton
3 years ago
Reply to  sophie123

Two hours minimum – you can’t be too careful!

But then it may be an amphibian!

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crisisgarden
crisisgarden
3 years ago
Reply to  David Beaton

It looks like it might already have been immersed in formaldehyde.

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David Beaton
David Beaton
3 years ago
Reply to  crisisgarden

That might just explain the slimy skin texture and smoothed out features then – good to see comments ‘evidence based’ !

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crisisgarden
crisisgarden
3 years ago
Reply to  David Beaton

I’m OK with it as long and it doesn’t preserve it for any longer than necessary.

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BillRiceJr
BillRiceJr
3 years ago
Reply to  Henry2

Those fact-checkers just banned me from posting for two days because I wrote a piece criticizing Austria passing a vaccine mandate.

This is now two strikes for me with Facebook. I’m sure I will be permanently banned soon enough … for posting opinions backed with supporting facts.

People who challenge the science have been labeled a “danger” and will be silenced on these platforms. Many already have been silenced.

And the crowd cheers on as Big Brother continues to “protect” the masses from free speech.

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stewart
stewart
3 years ago

In some ways it feels as if we are right back in April 2020.

Back then it became very evident that the new coronavirus they had identified was not even remotely as dangerous as feared at first. `And that fact was completely ignored and the world double down on the panic.

Two years on, the solution they have forced down everyone’s throats to the problem that never existed is clearly ineffective. And yet we are on the brink of repeating the same behaviour. Is the world going to ignore what is clearly self evident and are we going to spend the coming years pretending that covid jabs are helpful, effective and critical to a properly functioning society?

I’m not terribly optimistic.

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ImpObs
ImpObs
3 years ago
Reply to  stewart

If you understand what Ethical Skeptic pointed out regarding Omicron being at least 2 years old, consider Omnicron was around all the time, for the whole 2 years, just that PCR didn’t pick it up because of the S dropout.

Consider the idea of “viral swarm” where the viral load is madeup of hundreds of different variants (each replication has errors) each variant more adapted to different parts of the body, e.g. so those in the nasal cavities are more adapted to lower temps than the variants more adapted to higher temps deep inside the body. (explored by Dan & Karl Sirotkin on Dans substack https://harvard2thebighouse.substack.com/ )

The implications being, the unvaccinated with Natural Immunity have MUCH better cross immunity to multiple “variants”. The vaccinated, not so much.

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stewart
stewart
3 years ago
Reply to  ImpObs

To be honest, I don’t understand it, it’s way over my head.
Have sent it on to someone who can check it and explain to me.
I’m intrigued at the idea but at the same time not terribly surprised.

People who tell me they have covid, I ask “what is covid”? I don’t get any good answers.

As far as I can tell, it’s the condition of being classified as ‘positive’ on a government approved ‘covid test’. That’s about it really, isn’t it?

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ImpObs
ImpObs
3 years ago
Reply to  stewart

Johnathan Couey (PhD Neuro-Biologist) is probably the best immunology teacher I’ve come across, if you want to understand, I can’t recomend his streams highly enough. He covers the swarm theory in one of his early streams archived here:

https://gigaohmbiological.com/review

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TheyLiveAndWeLockdown
TheyLiveAndWeLockdown
3 years ago
Reply to  stewart

YEs technically unless you’ve got viral pneumonia you haven’t had covid, you had a mild cold.

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Star
Star
3 years ago
Reply to  TheyLiveAndWeLockdown

Either a mild cold or you stuck a stick up your nose until you got the result you always wanted, probably without understanding what 1-(1-p)^n means.

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RickH
RickH
3 years ago
Reply to  TheyLiveAndWeLockdown

It is pretty amazing that, after almost two years, the vast majority have no idea of this concept in using the term ‘Covid’.

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Star
Star
3 years ago
Reply to  stewart

They’re morons, then. They’ve had two years to apprise themselves that Covid-19 is an illness involving double pneumonia and diagnosed as caused by a SARSCoV2 infection. (That’s why it used to be called “NCIP” – “Novel Coronavirus-Infected Pneumonia”.) If they haven’t got double pneumonia, they haven’t got Covid. Do think they’ve got tuberculosis every time they get a runny nose?

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Sandra Barwick
Sandra Barwick
3 years ago
Reply to  stewart

It’s like when you ask someone a question, and they don’t really listen, they reply to the question they assume you’re asking, cos they’ve been asked that question before.
In OAS the body meets a Covid variant, and gives an immune response to the spike the jab made it produce. But actually the new variant is quite different from that old spike, so the immune response can’t fight it off very well.

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Bella Donna
Bella Donna
3 years ago
Reply to  ImpObs

Yes! If only people put their trust in their own innate immune system rather than Big Pharma we would be a much healthier position. Those in government who deliberately chose to ignore we had immune systems should be publicly horse whipped. The damage that has been done to people’s health is incalculable. Those who had the vaxx will have damaged their immune system and its not known if it can recover. Only time will tell.

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ImpObs
ImpObs
3 years ago
Reply to  Bella Donna

If the mechanisms of the innate and adaptive immune systems were taught in high school, there would never have been a “pandemic” and sub-unit/mRNA vaccines would have been laughed at and dismissed out of hand.

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Rowan
Rowan
3 years ago
Reply to  ImpObs

The last thing they want is an educated public, so that won’t happen.

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David Beaton
David Beaton
3 years ago
Reply to  ImpObs

It now seems the “vaccine” is custom designed to destroy the natural immune system.

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stewart
stewart
3 years ago
Reply to  David Beaton

Some people claim all vaccines harm the immune system.
I didn’t used to pay any attention to them before, but I’m a hell of a lot more likely to listen to what they have to say now.

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David Beaton
David Beaton
3 years ago
Reply to  stewart

Don’t just listen to the ‘messengers’ on here – listen to the sources : the Barrington Declaration heroes, together with Peter McCulough, Dr Mike Yeadon, Dr Robert Malone and Prof. Sucharit Bhakdi and of course the hours of devastating interview findings by International Lawyer Reiner Fuellmich!

All the people the BBC don’t want you to know about.

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BillRiceJr
BillRiceJr
3 years ago
Reply to  David Beaton

The people who have been banned, censored or attacked are the people we should be listening to. They are telling us who threatens them. They are telling us the bombs that are hitting near the target.

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Steven Robinson
Steven Robinson
3 years ago
Reply to  stewart

Highly recommend lecture by Ray Obomsawin at:
https://pennybutler.com/vaccine-lies-forever/

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BillRiceJr
BillRiceJr
3 years ago
Reply to  Steven Robinson

I am now looking at all vaccines with new eyes. This article mentions the increase in diagnoses of Alzheimers and Dementia, as well as autism or being on the spectrum.

I don’t know what caused these spikes in cases/diagnoses, but I do think there has been a big increase in these diagnoses in my lifetime.

I don’t remember nearly as many people having Alzheiemers 30 or 40 years ago and I don’t remember near as many children from my childhood being somewhere on the autism spectrum.

Something changed. I think it is far to wonder whether vaccinations might have had something to do with these spikes.

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ImpObs
ImpObs
3 years ago
Reply to  David Beaton

One problem they had developing the mRNA technology, was the innate immune system would destroy the Lipid Nano Particle ‘shell’ before they had chance to deliver the mRNA load into the cells.

If the dose was too low, it didn’t work, if the dose was raised high enough to work, it caused too much damage to the host…

It looks to me like they spliced in some HIV genes to get round this problem, but it also looks like Pfizer were testing dose limits in different batches, since ~5% of their batches caused 99% of the AEs

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David Beaton
David Beaton
3 years ago
Reply to  ImpObs

Excellent comment and clearly expressed, totally credible explanation – thank you!

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Rowan
Rowan
3 years ago
Reply to  Bella Donna

I go along with what you say and of course the damage has led to death in many cases. Horse whipping though will not be enough.

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David Beaton
David Beaton
3 years ago
Reply to  Rowan

“Has led to”…..or ..”.will lead to”? This is a slow burn.

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David Beaton
David Beaton
3 years ago
Reply to  Bella Donna

Massive Government funded psy-ops propaganda helped destroy people’s faith in their immune system and their own Common Sense by terrifiying them ( a plastic screen now stops an air-borne virus apparently)

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NickR
NickR
3 years ago
Reply to  stewart

The Diamond Princess remains an excellent case study. 2,666 passengers, mainly late middle age/elderly, all no strangers to the buffet. All sat stewing together for weeks. 567 ‘cases’, 14 deaths, 2.5%. 1,400 younger/fitter staff, no fatalities. This was known pre-lockdown.
Most people have never been at risk.
The elderly, medicated, cared for crowd have always been at some risk.
The best predictor of a bad outcome has always been general health & has never been about your vaccine status.

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TheGreenAcres
TheGreenAcres
3 years ago
Reply to  NickR

It was the raw unfiltered Diamond Princess data that convinced me that Covid was not what was being claimed in the MSM back in early April 2020. The scientists and advisors that make up SAGE all had access to this information yet ignored it.

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chris-ds
chris-ds
3 years ago
Reply to  TheGreenAcres

SAGE had access to that info and more. At best you took a punt as the full facts where never released. Hindsight puts you in the right.

SAGE new they where in the wrong and pursued a course of action knowing other actions could have been equally as good or better.

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Margaret
Margaret
3 years ago
Reply to  TheGreenAcres

Me too. Having travelled on the Diamond Princess-around New Zealand ironically-we knew there was no way of avoiding people on board unless you stayed in your cabin for a fortnight. We pointed this out to our MP back in 2020. We described it as a floating Petri dish.

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sophie123
sophie123
3 years ago
Reply to  TheGreenAcres

Same here. I was sceptical it was that much of a problem beforehand, and the Diamond Princess data confirmed it.

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Annie
Annie
3 years ago
Reply to  NickR

They are always expecting deaths on cruise ships, given their demographic.

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Boomer Bloke
Boomer Bloke
3 years ago
Reply to  NickR

For some reason reason it was rabbit holed.

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TheyLiveAndWeLockdown
TheyLiveAndWeLockdown
3 years ago
Reply to  NickR

I wonder is 14 the greatest number of deaths on one cruise? I’d give even odds it’s not!

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BillRiceJr
BillRiceJr
3 years ago
Reply to  NickR

The USS Teddy Roosevelt had 4,800 crew members. This outbreak – per a later antibody study – “infected” more than 60 percent of the crew. One crew member – much older than his crew mates – died.

But this was a worst-case scenario – close quarters for weeks – and you still just had one death.

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David Beaton
David Beaton
3 years ago
Reply to  stewart

What if the AIDS evidence proves as devastating as some virologist now fear
We are in a totally different world – one of urgently finding the antidote to the vaccines!

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crisisgarden
crisisgarden
3 years ago
Reply to  David Beaton

I’ve been lead to believe that they’re working on just that in China!

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Milo
Milo
3 years ago
Reply to  crisisgarden

I read in one Joe Mercola’s articles his prediction that Big Pharma would produce an antidote to the vaccines. BUT – if they do that, is that not an admission that their jabs harmed people, to the extent that they need an antidote, and doesn’t that set them up for liability?

He has also posited that the fact that people are being given a different booster to their original 2 jabs [say a moderna booster after double jabbed with pfizer] is so that anyone who is harmed will not be able to successfully identify the culprit and sue them. The mendaciousness of what is supposedly being done under the banner of “health” is mind blowing.

So that being the case, the they can make their antidote, which you can bet will be pricey – and they win again financially. You literally couldn’t make it up, and governments the world over have facilitated it.

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stewart
stewart
3 years ago
Reply to  David Beaton

The moral dilemma for those of us who don’t want any piece of these jabs is that widespread catastrophic side effects are the single best way to end all this jab madness. But then again we don’t want people to be badly harmed needlessly, no matter how bad their judgment has been.

Luckily it’s not something we’ll get to decide.

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crisisgarden
crisisgarden
3 years ago
Reply to  stewart

If they don’t round us up / kill us all, we’ll be the sages of the post apocalyptic nightmare ahead.

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ImpObs
ImpObs
3 years ago

OAS is part of it, the fact Natural Immunity beats any sub-unit vaccine by a country mile is another part. There’s also very strong indications the mRNA jabs interfear with innate immune response, in a similar way way HIV does (possibly because it contains at least 3 seperate HIV genomic sequences).

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stewart
stewart
3 years ago
Reply to  ImpObs

So if you were a national leader (i.e. WEF regional manager) and had pushed these jabs on your population, your top priority would be to eliminate any control group.

Without a control group, the ensuing health problems can be blamed on … covid!!

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ImpObs
ImpObs
3 years ago
Reply to  stewart

Indeed, I just made the same point in the other thread.
https://dailysceptic.org/2022/01/24/macron-says-no-vaxx-no-citizenship-as-france-unveils-new-stricter-vaccine-passports/#comment-709414

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Rowan
Rowan
3 years ago
Reply to  stewart

Yes that’s been the game for some time now. Part of the solution would be to eliminate the WEF regional managers.

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sophie123
sophie123
3 years ago
Reply to  Rowan

I think this is a very sensible plan. Who is the UK’s representative?

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crisisgarden
crisisgarden
3 years ago
Reply to  sophie123

Oh god it’s all of them isn’t it!? That’s why I think people of the world need to have their own anti-Davos summit.

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David Beaton
David Beaton
3 years ago
Reply to  crisisgarden

What venue can accommodate 7 billion?

Or do we just wait until the Gates Plan is ‘executed’?

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stewart
stewart
3 years ago
Reply to  crisisgarden

As you pointed out yesterday, it may have to be a zoom summit.

I hate zoom.

I hear Mexico doesn’t require anything for entry now. The Cancun Anti-Davos Summit. It’s got legs.

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crisisgarden
crisisgarden
3 years ago
Reply to  stewart

Love that! Visited the Yucatan in 2000 – Tulum would make a great venue.

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crisisgarden
crisisgarden
3 years ago
Reply to  stewart

Definitely not doing it on Zoom.

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crisisgarden
crisisgarden
3 years ago
Reply to  stewart

And yet in the UK, they have proudly attempted to publish the difference between vaxxed and unvaxxed cohorts in weekly surveillance reports – so they must have believed the drugs would work. It’s almost incomprehensible. Occam’s razor suggests that the Big Pharma arm of Global Totalitarian Inc. have BADLY let the side down – it must surely have been hoped at the outset that the drugs would at least give the appearance of working?!
Zooming out, this feels almost like a human computer virus. As though all of humanities worst traits – greed, hubris, the pursuit of power – have combined in an act of utter insanity. A Tower of Babel moment.

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sophie123
sophie123
3 years ago
Reply to  crisisgarden

I think they did. Remember I used to work for a vaccine company. Not one making a covid vaccine (currently anyway). The senior management TOTALLY believed the jabs worked. They are mean to be the experts…they are nothing of the sort.

Some of the smarter analysts covering the sector know there is an issue, but they are not allowed to write about it. Two from Nordea got suspended for it. Most of them just take stuff at face value though, and I haven’t met one yet who has said no to the jab. They all think I am a bit nuts (and likely to be fired).

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crisisgarden
crisisgarden
3 years ago
Reply to  sophie123

Corporate groupthink at work then. Terrifying. Maybe this whole thing is just the sum of too much corporate influence, and this is nothing more than a disastrous product launch…

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David Beaton
David Beaton
3 years ago
Reply to  sophie123

Their bonuses depend on the jabs working!

The securing of their place in Heaven depended on Catholic Cardinals believing in the Virgin Birth! ( At least it did when they were Christians and not just “Marxists in a Frock”).

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stewart
stewart
3 years ago
Reply to  crisisgarden

I pay close attention to what Bill Gates says publicly. He’s the high priest of the Global Totalitarian Inc.

He’s been out doing the rounds recently admitting the current jabs don’t do much and that the pharma’s need to produce better versions.

I think they know they have time. They can beat people over the head with boosters and vax passes for a few months until they come out with version 2.0.

Then the media machine will be put into top gear to tell everyone how marvellous v 2.0 is. And it will take another 6-12 months for the world to discover otherwise, by which time they’ll have v 3.0…. etc.. etc.,, etc….

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David Beaton
David Beaton
3 years ago
Reply to  stewart

This who live by and still believe in the “Media Machine” are destined to die by it!

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TheyLiveAndWeLockdown
TheyLiveAndWeLockdown
3 years ago
Reply to  stewart

I think we may have “allies”* even better hidden than our enemies, making people over play their hand too early.

*I don’t think their on “our” side, but they don’t want these fools to unset their apple cart.

It all seems very billion dollar brain to me.

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crisisgarden
crisisgarden
3 years ago
Reply to  stewart

But isn’t that just fighting talk?! How can they maintain the pretence of a ‘public health emergency?’ Surely the momentum is lost?

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David Beaton
David Beaton
3 years ago
Reply to  crisisgarden

Propagandists don’t believe in anything other than successful lying.

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David Beaton
David Beaton
3 years ago
Reply to  stewart

Exactly what they have done!

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David Beaton
David Beaton
3 years ago
Reply to  ImpObs

Indeed – when do we substitute “solid hard evidence” for “strong indication” – they cannot keep the lid on this much longer.

Although perhaps a diversionary “War with Russia” would do the trick?

Truss has been made to look such a fool. “PM materal” ? God help us!

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John
John
3 years ago
Reply to  ImpObs

Sub unit vaccines are not new as shown below:

“Subunit and conjugate vaccines only contain parts of the organism used to stimulate an immune response. They also cannot cause infection and are safe for immunocompromised patients. Examples of subunit and conjugate vaccines are:

  • Pneumococcus
  • Meningococcus
  • Hepatitis B
  • Pertussis (whooping cough)
  • Haemophilus influenza type B
  • Human papillomavirus (HPV)
  • Shingles (herpes-zoster virus)”

From https://zerotofinals.com/paediatrics/infectiousdisease/vaccinations/

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ImpObs
ImpObs
3 years ago
Reply to  John

Indeed, the propaganda would have us believe all vaccines are the same, and all viruses respond in the same way to immune system challenge.

Switching to sub-unit rather than LAV is much cheaper to produce, mRNA is cheaper still, yet both sub-unit and mRNA require multiple shots, and each shot is still sold at a price above the original LAVs, nice business model!!

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John
John
3 years ago
Reply to  ImpObs

I had Hep B vaccination in 1994 and required a booster some 15 years later. I had the pertussis as an infant, but I suspect that that wasn’t the same as the current one. My daughter who is pregnant has had another pertussis vaccination, despite having her childhood vaccines. When I looked at the online training to become competent in vaccination, one phrase stood out about the pertussis vaccine, that vaccine induced immunity was longer lasting than immunity through infection. It was the only one where that was claimed.

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TheyLiveAndWeLockdown
TheyLiveAndWeLockdown
3 years ago
Reply to  ImpObs

and one patented sequence from moderna..

It can’t have come from anywhere BUT a lab.

How to BLAST your way to the truth about the origins of COVID-19

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ImpObs
ImpObs
3 years ago
Reply to  TheyLiveAndWeLockdown

I read that previously, ethical skeptics phylogenetic analysis still stands in the context of ‘viral swarms’ IMO.

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ElSabio
ElSabio
3 years ago

Just in time; Pfizer’s share-price was starting to slip…

A fourth Covid vaccine dose given to people over 60 offers a threefold protection against serious illness than those who received three shots, Israel’s Health Ministry said.

https://www.marketwatch.com/articles/fourth-covid-vaccine-dose-older-adults-study-51643020681?mod=mw_latestnews

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huxleypiggles
huxleypiggles
3 years ago
Reply to  ElSabio

Absolute Bollox.

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David Beaton
David Beaton
3 years ago
Reply to  ElSabio

More BS same suckers!

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TheyLiveAndWeLockdown
TheyLiveAndWeLockdown
3 years ago
Reply to  ElSabio

The only thing boosted is pfiser’s share price.

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David Beaton
David Beaton
3 years ago
Reply to  TheyLiveAndWeLockdown

And the bank balance of so many well-known UK “experts”

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JayBee
JayBee
3 years ago

More evidence will be needed before one can raise definitive concern about the risk of OAS with respect to the SARS-CoV-2 vaccines. 

It used to be very different, for very good reasons.

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Major Panic in the jabby jabbys
Major Panic in the jabby jabbys
3 years ago

this clever fella explains in simple terms the problems with the ‘safe and effective vaccines’ safety trials, see the first few minutes…

https://rumble.com/vt5o9b-mi-robert-kennedy-jr-full-speech.html

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Bella Donna
Bella Donna
3 years ago

How many times were we warned of the dangers of vaccinating during a pandemic? Oh that’s right their voices were silenced by the ‘paid for MSM’ who accused them of being anti vaxxers and conspiracy theorists! Chickens haven’t yet fully come home to roost, but they will!

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David Beaton
David Beaton
3 years ago
Reply to  Bella Donna

Our “dangers” are their “successful project”!

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sobers
sobers
3 years ago

As was repeatedly pointed out at the start of this farrago people go mad in crowds and come to their senses one by one. Slowly people are doing just that. And as they do they give others the confidence to join in. What starts as a trickle soon becomes a steady flow and suddenly becomes a torrent. In 6 months time no one will have been in favour of vaccines, lockdowns or any of the paraphernalia of covidism. This article telling the masses what we sensible folk knew a year or more ago is just evidence of that direction of flow.

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David Beaton
David Beaton
3 years ago
Reply to  sobers

Please be right!

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Milo
Milo
3 years ago
Reply to  sobers

wish I could see it among the people I know – sadly, I am afraid their take on it will be, well I got covid again, because the booster had waned [or didn’t work] so I need another jab to “protect me” from getting the deadly plague

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Matt Mounsey
Matt Mounsey
3 years ago

There’s certainly no proof that original antigenic sin exists for the Covid vaccines. 

I thought Original Antigenic Sin was a descriptive property of how the immune system operates, not a properly of individual vaccines. Or am I wrong?

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ImpObs
ImpObs
3 years ago
Reply to  Matt Mounsey

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/28479213/.

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Tee Ell
Tee Ell
3 years ago
Reply to  Matt Mounsey

Agreed – but the question is to what extent OAS occurs for the antigens created by the SARS-CoV-2 vaccines, how variable this response is, and the time period over which it occurs/wanes.

Last edited 3 years ago by Tee Ell
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TheGreenAcres
TheGreenAcres
3 years ago

We should treat them like they treated us. Prove you are unjabbed or be banned from Pubs, restaurants and large events.

Because, that’s the science right?

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David Beaton
David Beaton
3 years ago
Reply to  TheGreenAcres

The shedding of the spike protein by the jabbed will probably be the greatest risk of infection – until they release the next more deadly virus that is.

This is now a war not a battle.

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Jane G
Jane G
3 years ago
Reply to  David Beaton

How sure are we about this ‘shedding’ thing? I was once spoken to like I was a dirty disease factory by one of the righteous jabbed, but wasn’t sufficiently sure of my facts to argue back to the contrary. Even GPs are propagating the ‘dangerous unvaxxed’ rubbish, I understand.

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David Beaton
David Beaton
3 years ago
Reply to  Jane G

I think the virologists who have advanced the ‘shedding’ argument are looking at the way spike proteins are being produced in billons in all the cells of the ‘vaccinated’ and that they will probably leach out through bodily fluids and therefore can be transmitted by close proximity – whether or not they have aerosol capability I do not know.

We need some reputable virologist’s opinion

I think the evidence is still being collected . But we are now openly and brazenly told that the vaccinated can both acquire and transmit the ‘virus’ and after all the lies we have been subjected to, confusing the ‘virus’ with the shedding of pathogenic Covid spike proteins seems just like something they would now deliberately do to conceal the alarming “shedding”.

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Sforzesca
Sforzesca
3 years ago
Reply to  David Beaton

I’m no expert virologist, more an immunologist, but if you are one of the lucky survivors (99.9%) of covid, you’ve nothing to worry about re the vaxxed or variants of concern for that matter.
The human immune system (yes it’s better than that of other species on the planet) is pretty clever – and it has a good memory.
Certainly better than the best bigpharma can do.

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Jane G
Jane G
3 years ago
Reply to  David Beaton

Thanks – I recall something some months back about not using a big cubicle too soon after a jabber (how are we supposed to know?) I think we need to know about this, but I don’t want inadvertently to give an excuse to re-mandate masks; although if it comes out via perspiration and – ahem- flatus- masks wouldn’t help.

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TheyLiveAndWeLockdown
TheyLiveAndWeLockdown
3 years ago
Reply to  TheGreenAcres

Ban the establishment from their jets and yachts, not ordinary people who were fooled.

We need truth and reconciliation not revenge.

Last edited 3 years ago by TheyLiveAndWeLockdown
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RickH
RickH
3 years ago

Yes – one possibility.

But, still, let’s keep it simple : the very history of this snake oil means that safety and efficacy cannot be assured from any point of view.

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chris-ds
chris-ds
3 years ago

Notions like this won’t catch on.

it goes against the narrative.

how can politicians explain how this works when it flies in the face of what they’ve been shovelling the past 2 years.

how can Sajid go on tv and announce he’s stopping boosters and because they don’t work with the new variant. He’d have to stop all cv vaccines. People will then remind us that while omicron is the variant de jour, the others are still out there and it will be claimed the vaccIne is stopping those from spreading.

Last edited 3 years ago by chris-ds
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The old bat
The old bat
3 years ago
Reply to  chris-ds

If the government eventually decides not to booster any more they will never admit it. They will say that ‘boosters’ will now be given annually, starting this autumn, alongside flu vaccines. As long as they don’t make them compulsory (it really wouldn’t make sense to do so, seeing the flu jab isnt, mind you, sense and government aren’t two words that sit well together). I hope though that eventually the shit will hit the fan about how dangerous and useless the vaccines are. Surely this has got to happen sometime?

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crisisgarden
crisisgarden
3 years ago
Reply to  The old bat

2nd February perhaps, when thousands of people up and down the country go to their local police station to report the crime.

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Judy Watson
Judy Watson
3 years ago
Reply to  The old bat

Looking at all the adverse reactions and other data I eould guess between 2 and 5 years for the long term health problems to show up

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David Beaton
David Beaton
3 years ago
Reply to  Judy Watson

One suggestion is six years off the life expectancy of the jabbed .

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David Beaton
David Beaton
3 years ago
Reply to  chris-ds

Javid is a worthless stooge – he will say anything.

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zners
zners
3 years ago

West is drumming up Ukraine conflict. Seems to be (no surprises) only coming from one side (our side). Could this be the path to them the blame of skyrocketing inflation on “conflict”?

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realarthurdent
realarthurdent
3 years ago
Reply to  zners

It’s just another episode in the long history of painting Russia as our primary enemy when our primary enemy is actually Western governments who are at war with their own populations, and our secondary enemy is the CCP who are infiltrating Western governments and other public bodies like our universities.

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David Beaton
David Beaton
3 years ago
Reply to  realarthurdent

The BS stinks to heaven ( for anyone with a political/historical nose and an ‘O’ level in Geography – sadly a shrinking minority. )

We wait for the inevitable US “CIA/ Black Ops” False Flag.

I do wonder if they will try to sabotage the Nordstream pipeline the US Deep State hates so much?

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David Beaton
David Beaton
3 years ago
Reply to  zners

Yes … it is all total BS cooked up by the CIA as a cover for Biden’s senility, Voter Fraud and Covid Vax oppression in the US, which only works because the ignorant population knows absolutely nothing about Russia and the Ukraine.

Putin will stay cool – he knows he is dealing with psychotics.

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GlassHalfFull
GlassHalfFull
3 years ago

Original Antigenic Sin, Antibody Dependent Enhancement, Vaccine Acquired Immunodeficiency Syndrome etc. plus all the other possible side effects from the experimental jab including myocarditis people will be potentially more ill from the jab than they would be from Covid.

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David Beaton
David Beaton
3 years ago
Reply to  GlassHalfFull

I think this must now becoming crystal clear to even the most dense among us!

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Rogerborg
Rogerborg
3 years ago

Mmm, I can’t see how exposing us to the same 2019 era[*] spike protein over and over again is helping us against 2022 variants.

And I’ve not aware of any “vaccines” that need to be administered four times in a year, or whether that’s likely to result in our immune systems no longer recognising the pathogen (or related variants) as a threat.

What I do know is that annual influenza vaccines result in negative efficacy over time.

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32276801/

Maybe it’s time for even the most fervent Branch Covidian to stop taking the sacrament while they still can.

[*] … or earlier.

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zners
zners
3 years ago
Reply to  Rogerborg

naa just let them take it. Had enough attempting to convince

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crisisgarden
crisisgarden
3 years ago
Reply to  Rogerborg

Anecdotally I’ve just watched a Covidian zealot in my workplace tie himself up in knots when trying to explain to a more agnostic colleague why the boosters would be effective against a different virus. It was very entertaining indeed. Said nothing of course.

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sophie123
sophie123
3 years ago
Reply to  crisisgarden

How did they even try?!

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crisisgarden
crisisgarden
3 years ago
Reply to  sophie123

Oh it was completely pitiful. Something about having so many antibodies that they overpowered the virus even though they didn’t exactly fit. Didn’t do much for the agnostic’s hesitancy!!

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BeBopRockSteady
BeBopRockSteady
3 years ago
Reply to  crisisgarden

Reminds me of my PhD educated friend explain to me that, yes, the vaccinated can spread the virus but less than unvaccinated. How I hear you ask? Well, apparently, the vaccinated only spread it through their skin now, you know, touching cash and the rest. The unvaccinated do this too, but also breathing out virus. The vaccines eliminate this as a source of transmission.

I laughed, asked him where on earth he got that from. He couldn’t quite remember.

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David Beaton
David Beaton
3 years ago
Reply to  Rogerborg

The vaccine spike proteins operate in a different way from those in the – virus , they are far more dangeous!

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TheyLiveAndWeLockdown
TheyLiveAndWeLockdown
3 years ago
Reply to  David Beaton

Discovery identifies a highly efficient human reverse transcriptase that can write RNA sequences into DNA — ScienceDaily

Imagine the effect if this happens often with mRNA jabs?

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David Beaton
David Beaton
3 years ago
Reply to  TheyLiveAndWeLockdown

Exactly! Time will tell.

I do worry about what happens when the scales fall from the eyes.
What does seem clear is that the more frequent the jabs the greater all the risks.

Last edited 3 years ago by David Beaton
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BeBopRockSteady
BeBopRockSteady
3 years ago
Reply to  Rogerborg

Direct yourself to the latest Pfizer press release. They’ll put your mind to rest.

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Annie
Annie
3 years ago

I seem to remember a thing called the precautionary principle. Presumably it died of Covid some time ago, because it sure as hell doesn’t apply to the snake oils.

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John001
John001
3 years ago
Reply to  Annie

Or died *with* COVID …

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David Beaton
David Beaton
3 years ago
Reply to  John001

With the Global Multi -Vax Roll out still proceeding, won’t that eventually be everybody?

But then isn’t that the Big Idea?

Last edited 3 years ago by David Beaton
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David Beaton
David Beaton
3 years ago
Reply to  Annie

The abject failure of the MHRA to protect us should be a ‘sacking matter’ at the very least – perhaps more a cleaning of the stables?

But I expect only the “Cleaning Lady” will lose her job ( for poor time keeping)..

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crisisgarden
crisisgarden
3 years ago
Reply to  David Beaton

The words AGENCY CAPTURE should be shouted from the rooftops. Most people have no idea it even exists, I’ve learned.

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Arfur Mo
Arfur Mo
3 years ago

The Wuhan strain? There were about 78,000 genetic variations in early 2020, with ~300 in the UK alone. If there was a ‘Wuhan strain’, it mutated away rapidly as the virus ensemble mutated to reach its final endemic form where the virus coexists with its host.

The worldwide genetic variants map shows this process in action.

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Anonymous
Anonymous
3 years ago

In New Zealand in 2017 an experiment was conducted on rabbits where they were inoculated with a vaccine which had been created from a variant of a Coronavirus – this particular virus was supposedly a zoonotic, i.e., it had made the jump from animal to human.
 
The inoculated rabbits became sick and developed antibodies against this virus. When animals or humans develop antibodies against a particular virus, they are usually neutralising antibodies, which means that if they encounter the same virus again, or a variant of it, these antibodies kill it completely.
 
But the antibodies the New Zealand rabbits developed were not the usual variety. These rabbits developed non-neutralizing or binding antibodies. When the inoculated rabbits were infected with the variant of Coronavirus the vaccine was based on, these binding antibodies actually made pathways for the virus to enter and replicate in the rabbit’s cells.
 
One reason why this particular vaccine may have caused the rabbits to develop such weird and self-defeating antibodies, is that the variant of Coronavirus its creation was based on had been genetically manipulated in a laboratory. That scientists somewhere had used gain of function to purposefully make this virus more virulent and resistant to animal and human immune systems.
 
It has been proven that at least some of the SARS‑CoV‑2 “vaccines” also produced non-neutralizing or binding antibodies in people that have been given it. At least some “inoculated” people’s immune systems have been actually programmed to build pathways into their cells for the next infection of virus that comes along.
 
The theory is that scientists managed to use gain of function to create a virus that gave people Auto Immune Deficiency Syndrome (AIDS). And then from a sequence of this virus they created the “vaccines”, some of which are designed to give the “inoculated” AIDS.
 
Using the “vaccines” they can control who gets AIDS. If they used the original virus to spread AIDS, they couldn’t control where it went and who got infected.

Last edited 3 years ago by Anonymous
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David Beaton
David Beaton
3 years ago
Reply to  Anonymous

“Designed to give the inoculated AIDS” – at last we have an ‘objective’ and ‘successful outcome’ match for the vaccines!

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David Beaton
David Beaton
3 years ago

There is now enough evidence of damage and danger worldwide on every front to withdraw these jabs and close down the forced vaccination programme …but nothing is done and ye propaganda continues regardless

That tells us all we need to know.

In short: the are not being used for the benefit of mankind – in fact quite the opposite.

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crisisgarden
crisisgarden
3 years ago
Reply to  David Beaton

But in the UK, the political establishment have seen the writing on the wall before others??

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sophie123
sophie123
3 years ago
Reply to  crisisgarden

I think Japan saw it first, to give them credit.

Who else is regaining sanity? us (maybe), Ireland (maybe)….where else? Mexico? (no vaccine requirements to enter)
India? (with their ivermectin packs)

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TheyLiveAndWeLockdown
TheyLiveAndWeLockdown
3 years ago
Reply to  sophie123

Bidenstan can’t even see the wall.

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David Beaton
David Beaton
3 years ago
Reply to  sophie123

Japan recognises life saving ivermectin – banned by Johnson Javid and Whitty!

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MrTea
MrTea
3 years ago
Reply to  David Beaton

Our lot actually murdered patients with established toxic doses of HCQ in order to discredit it is a valid treatment.
If HCQ was seen to offer a remedy they wouldn’t be able to force the public into taking the injections.
Boris should hang.

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crisisgarden
crisisgarden
3 years ago
Reply to  sophie123

I thought so (and was thinking about emigrating there!) but I’ve read they’ve ‘gone back into lockdown’ – it’s a truly baffling picture globally….

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David Beaton
David Beaton
3 years ago
Reply to  crisisgarden

As far as I know they are still jabbing ….Kids next!

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Boomer Bloke
Boomer Bloke
3 years ago

And yet they keep boosting against new variants with a ‘vaccine’ designed to be effective against the original wild type from 2 years ago. And if you don’t get boosted, at least in France so far, but wait for the usual lockstep to take hold, you are a non person.

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David Beaton
David Beaton
3 years ago
Reply to  Boomer Bloke

The irony being that if you do keep taking the boosters you soon will be a ‘non person’ – in a very real sense!

So Catch 22?

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DoctorCOxford
DoctorCOxford
3 years ago

Shhh! No one tell Macron. He won’t be able to send the unrepentant to work camps if this gets out.

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David Beaton
David Beaton
3 years ago
Reply to  DoctorCOxford

Does Macron still dare to walk the streets of Paris on his own I wonder?

He hasn’t the incentive of his predecessor to ride on the the back of a moped to see his mistress – apparently though he “consults” his Mama in the rooms below his Office in the Élysée every two hours, before he makes any decision.

If Zemmour’s ‘Union of the Right’ project comes to pass, Macron is toast – if they fight with each other as usual then he will be back – God help the French.

Getting rid of him is their only hope.

Last edited 3 years ago by David Beaton
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MrTea
MrTea
3 years ago
Reply to  David Beaton

Macron is WEF trained and funded so he will have the full support of the MSM.

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Arum
Arum
3 years ago
Reply to  David Beaton

I’m sure Macron has some butch bodyguards to look after his needs

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John
John
3 years ago

If I have understood this correctly. The presumption behind this is that because the mRNA and the alterations to the chimpanzee adenovirus are based purely on the coding for the antigens of one or two strains of SARS-CoV-2 that a different strain that has modified genes that present the antigens will escape the vaccine. However, surely that new strain is still vulnerable to being detected by dendritic cells as if it were a brand new virus, and the innate system would still work. That is how the innate system works. The new variant has to get past the physical and chemical barriers first in any case. This could cause a cough, sneezing, runny nose. There may be an inflammatory response leading to fever, tiredness and reduced appetite. If the virus has managed to infect a few cells then T cells in the tissue will destroy them. This is the innate system, no antibodies required. If glands in the neck, groin, arm pits become swollen then the adaptive system is being primed by dendritic cells.

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MrTea
MrTea
3 years ago
Reply to  John

Vaccine Enhanced Disease is considered something of a mystery amongst accinologists.
Still roll up your sleeve for another booster, I’m sure it will all be dandy, and if it isn’t you won’t know anything about it.

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Star
Star
3 years ago

So the idea is to soften people up with a “vaccine” and then release the big-time killer pathogen? Who’d have thought it?

Today I learnt: Boris Johnson’s father Stanley Johnson (who married Jenny Sieff from the family that controls Marks and Spencer) has written books including

The Population Problem (ISBN 0715362828)

The Marburg Virus (ISBN 043437704X)

World Population and the United Nations (ISBN 0521322073)

World Population – Turning the Tide (ISBN 1859660460)

The Politics of Population: Cairo, 1994 (ISBN 1853832979)

The Virus (ISBN 0062414922)

As for Stanley’s son:

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TheyLiveAndWeLockdown
TheyLiveAndWeLockdown
3 years ago
Reply to  Star

Yet he won’t be an example of his own stated values?

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Anonymous
Anonymous
3 years ago

Georgia had her first dose of Pfizer “vaccine” on May 13, 2021. Afterwards she said: “It wiped me out. I felt like I could have slept for a year. I felt like that for a couple of days”.
 
Then, amazingly, she went back and got a second dose, and this time she said: “Within four hours I felt dizzy and light-headed. I fainted that evening, and in the following days, I fainted up to three times each day”.
 
Was the first dose of toxin not enough to warn her? When did people come to believe that medications should make you seriously ill before curing or protecting you?
 
The formerly young and fit Georgia is now a practical cripple. She’ll never work or lead a normal life again.   
 
I have normal levels of empathy, but I’m finding it harder and harder to have sympathy for people that went against all the evidence and had themselves poisoned anyway. And even here on The Daily Sceptic there are idiotic commenters who still believe that any poisonings were accidental.

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Anonymous
Anonymous
3 years ago
Reply to  Anonymous

Georgia published a video on Instagram showing herself struggling to walk around her home. The Times and Daily Mail found this video and ran stories about it that insinuated that Georgia had solely posted it as an anti-vax gesture.
 
Neither of these publications mentioned that Georgia’s health problems began in the immediate aftermath of her getting “vaccinated”. The trolls read these articles in The Times and Daily Mail and then started attacking Georgia for being an anti-vaxxer.
 
Then Instagram threw her off their platform ‘because the video of her struggling to walk denigrated the “vaccines”.’
 
It reads like a real bad comedy that an inbred group of yokels would attempt to put on in their parish hall. 
 
And this is the modern UK.

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BillRiceJr
BillRiceJr
3 years ago
Reply to  Anonymous

These “journalists” who will not tell the truth and indeed try to smear people who are trying to tell the truth must be exposed. They are a disgrace to their professions.

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BillRiceJr
BillRiceJr
3 years ago
Reply to  Anonymous

Great read. See some journalists actually do their jobs. But note these are always freelance journalists.

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John
John
3 years ago

I have found this pre-introduction to the immune system. The story of the child born without an immune system in 1971 is eye opening, especially what happened after he had a bone marrow transplant from his sister in 1984. Intro to Immunology Springboard – YouTube

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Bellingcat
Bellingcat
3 years ago

Ah fuck it I’ve given up on this shit show. Pork pie head clown BoJo should be deposed just for this.

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Bellingcat
Bellingcat
3 years ago

Yawn

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amanuensis
amanuensis
3 years ago

I’d add that nearly all properly designed vaccine effectiveness trials (matched cohort based) show negative VE for two doses of vaccine.

Tripe doses are rapidly heading the same way.

For some reason governments worldwide seem to only want to report TNCC studies, that have an inherent bias in situations where there is mass testing (this is warned about in all methodology reviews; governments prefer to ignore the warnings).

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BillRiceJr
BillRiceJr
3 years ago

“Original Antigenic Sin” postulates that the “cure” is worse than the disease. Basically, it tells us that the opposite of what was supposed to happen will happen.

This rings true to me. With any government solution, I expect the Law of Opposite Effects to kick in at some point.

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LonePatriot
LonePatriot
3 years ago

There is an ivermectin panic on the big tech and MSM right now. Massive articles from MSM on Ivermectin trying to push a danger narrative and also negative press on Americans Frontline Dr’s, again, to keep the Covid narrative alive. Just go to the Goog and type ivermectin then look at all the panic news articles. We are over the target. Big-Pharma is panicking. This medicine has been widely used by humans without any problems for 40 years. It’s inventor won a Nobel Prize after 20 years of successful use and after 100 million people were cured of a broad spectrum of problems without any side effects. Get your Ivermectin while you still can! https://ivmpharmacy.com

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TheBigman
TheBigman
3 years ago

Smoke and mirrors.
No way they have created enough vials for to jag everyone. Clearly there are ‘covid’ vials and probably a flu vaccine in many others.

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Sopwiththecamel
Sopwiththecamel
3 years ago

And here is another

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2022/01/omicron-transmission-likely-facilitated-vaccines-dr-malone-warns-keep-vaccinating-risk-developing-pathogenic-virus-video/?utm_source=Email&utm_medium=the-gateway-pundit&utm_campaign=dailyam&utm_content=daily

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