All three candidates running to succeed Baroness Scotland as Secretary-General of the Commonwealth have backed the idea of making amends for slavery and colonialism. The Times has the story.
The fraught debate about reparations for slavery and colonialism is likely to dominate the King’s first meeting with Commonwealth leaders since he ascended the throne.
The organisation, which has 56 members, has long resisted tackling the legacy of slavery in a public forum but a reckoning with its roots in the British Empire seems unavoidable next month with the election of a new Secretary-General.
All three candidates running to succeed Baroness Scotland of Asthal have backed the idea of making amends for slavery and colonialism.
“I stand for reparations,” Shirley Botchwey, the Ghanaian Foreign Affairs Minister, told a debate at Chatham House in London this week between the all-African shortlist of candidates.
Joshua Setipa, a former Trade and Industry Minister in Lesotho, said that if elected he would not wait for member states to ask the Commonwealth to act.
Mamadou Tangara, a Gambian diplomat and politician, said he “fully” supported reparations and would want the Commonwealth to facilitate member state-led conversations.
The King is the ceremonial head of the Commonwealth, whose members include west African and Caribbean countries affected by the slave trade. About 10 million people were enslaved by Britain and European nations between the 15th and 19th centuries and sent to work on plantations across the Atlantic in the Caribbean and the Americas.
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The ‘Be Kind’ left in Australia attacks a busker for not playing along with their protest
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TStBz0aykt0
Watched this. Deeply shocking. The Left has to be defeated.
Then they should go and get it from Africans who sold their own people into slavery to Arab traders and then European/American traders.
I thought the alternative was death.
On a long enough timescale everyone’s chances of survival is Zero.
The offshore banks, that our Commonwealth friends use while looting their countries, will be delighted at the thought of reparation millions/billions heading their way.
Excellent idea! And the English should receive reparations for the Barbary slave trade, among others: white skin was always highly appreciated by our African neighbours.
I wonder if the Commonwealth will collapse when the UK tells them to jog on?
But sstarmer won’t tell them to will he? He’ll starve a few more pensioners, sack a few thousand more steel workers and bung’em all the dosh they ask for.
Quite possibly and this sharp article explains why…
https://www.conservativewoman.co.uk/the-lefts-insatiable-appetite-for-cruelty/
Kneel and his treasonous bunch of evil-doers are basically committed to cruelty and any form of it will do.
I wonder if the immense amount of foreign paid to these pseudo-states and their insatiable ruling castes shouldn’t perhaps count for something. Or investing these ruling castes with their pseudo-states to begin with. If the Brits hadn’t subdued all the tribal rulers and created provinces from their territories, these guys wouldn’t nowadays celebrate themselves for “getting elected” (or so) there. They’d probably rather be busy with fighting for their lives with spears and clubs.
Britain spent a lot of money ending the slave trade. Buying out slave owners, having the Royal Navy patrol the slaver routes.
What is the size of our discount? Is it, adjusted for inflation, greater than any reparations? Are we owed money? I can’t see that going down at all well.
I’ve argued elsewhere that official claims for reparations, rehoming of refugees, and so on should expire after 70 years. That would cut through a lot of outrage for the sake of past wrongs.
If it’s legacy then reparations are due for the inventions and discoveries that have been made that have benefited everyone. The first to receive ‘compensation’ will be those descended from those that slaved away in the UK factories 12 hours and day 7 days a week. The slaves in places that grew sugar or cotton would not have worked continuously as there is a land clearing and growing season and then a harvesting season. As the UK had islands the land clearing would have been completed fairly quickly leaving spare time, something that was missing for the UK work force. In a little over 100 years there were 10,000 inventions that were available for all to use.
I am descended from a family of cotton mill workers, on both sides so I believe I must be up near the top of the list.
The Cotton Mill workers had famines during the US Civil War due to the stopping of cotton supplies. Karl Marx was funded by money from Engels father’s cotton mill which means Marxism is tainted and any Marxist should pay reparations.
Tainted marxists – to some tune.
In addition any reparations should mean the recipient vacating whichever tropical Island their ancestors were transported to and returning to there ancestral homelands. The islands can then be returned to UK ownership as it was British ships, navigation and effort that found the islands and cultivated them. This way every one gets something.
If they insist we must tell Chuckles that he will be picking up the tab.
Unfortunately we have a £22 billion hole in the nation’s finances so bad that we cannot afford to give our pensioners their Winter Fuel Allowance so it’s a ‘No Can Do.’
Charity begins at home.
It won’t happen but wouldn’t it be lovely if the UK withdrew from the Commonwealth and left them to it.
Race grifting trash. Colour be buggered.
Hear, hear
More trash, of a different variety, incoming! He’s being rude in Arabic so the Italian ladies don’t know what he’s on about. Seriously, how are we meant to differentiate between decent Muslims and the scummy, hateful ones? It’s no wonder people just find it easier to oppose all Islam;
”A Muslim enters a church & identifies a woman as a Christian:
“God willing, I hope you die today, before tomorrow.”
He wanted to beat the women up.”
https://x.com/DaveAtherton20/status/1835031301767709133
I would give every black man £5 million. He would be given a Mcmansion suitably furnished with fried chicken and jerk chicken aplenty. Give a bit of that Jamaican spice and make it feel like home for heaven’s sake.
These West Indians are postively homely and lovely by comparison with what you are getting now. In a nutshell governments all over Africa and Asia have managed to offload their criminal class onto English shores because of the British love of cheap and easy labour. Believe me you will not be able to remove this element from your country. They are fitter and hungrier and sharper than you. Their knowledge of science and technology might be rather limited but they know how to skin a cat and barbecue it. I like money as well and the good things that it brings but maybe just stop and ask if your addiction has gone too fer.
They absolutely are eating the dogs and cats. Catchy;
https://x.com/BehizyTweets/status/1834694604211519669
Nextdoor to Springfield. There’s something about migrants and pets being on their menu;
”EXCLUSIVE: We have discovered that migrants are, in fact, eating cats in Ohio. We have verified, with multiple witnesses and visual cross-references, that African migrants in Dayton, the next city over from Springfield, barbecued these cats last summer.”
https://x.com/realchrisrufo/status/1834926318883852543
Except for our own Aussie, Kiwi and Canuk cousins, the Commonwealth has never been anything but a disaster for England and the English People.
I do hope that King Charles III will put his royal foot down at that meeting, and tell them what they can do with their endless, insatiable demands and victimhood.
The Message of the West should be:
“Dear Third World, we owe you nothing.
Stop whining and get over it!”
Mad Green King Charles 111 is part of the problem
It’s never too late to change your mind. Maybe he will change his mind about things, you never know.
To his credit, he did visit the Southport Mass Stabbing victims and their families, unlike any of our elected politicians, most of whom were more concerned about keeping Muslims safe from Britons.
It is like talking about mitigation measures after the boat is long sunk. In this regard your country and your people are finished. Surely you can see the trajectory. Can you see any impediment to it? You just need to look at it soberly and conclude that you lost the battle four decades ago. You are like those Jap soldiers on Pacific islands who defended their posts for decades after the war. I would like to say that you put up a good fight but you didn’t at all.
“There is a class of colored people who make a business of keeping the troubles, the wrongs, and the hardships of the Negro race before the public. Having learned that they are able to make a living out of their troubles, they have grown into the settled habit of advertising their wrongs-partly because they want sympathy and partly because it pays. Some of these people do not want the Negro to lose his grievances, because they do not want to lose their jobs.”
Booker Taliaferro Washington
I don’t enjoy it but you clearly don’t give a crap. That’s the issue. So don’t come to me when you have a firework and a kebab skewer up your ass.
England is still awaiting ‘reparations’ from Italy for the invasion AD43-84 and enslavement of our whole country. Let us (and indeed most of the Europeans) settle that first, before we move onto the France invasion 1066. Arguably also perhaps Denmark, Norway and Sweden to a lesser, regional extent, but only then we can move on to the C17-C18 issues.
“About 10 million people were enslaved by Britain and European nations between”
Factually incorrect.
They were enslaved by their own kind before being sold onwards.
And the Arab Muslim empires get a free pass?
On a side note, Cassius Clay renamed himself after Muhammad Ali of Egypt – a reformer but also someone that considered slavery part and parcel of the economy.
The time and energy would be better spent in dealing with the black Africans who are still selling people. Amnesty reports that a white man can be bought for $1100 in North Africa. As it was 250 years ago so it still is today; black people rounding up mostly black people and selling them into slavery. What do the Commonwealth, or any country for that matter, have to say about it? Bugger all.
For some bizarre reason most people seem to think it was white men out in the bush rounding up tribes when it really was not, it was non-whites rounding up anyone and everyone and it has not changed.
Barbary Coast slavers for example went all around the Mediterranean and Devon and Cornwall capturing people. In Cornwall there was one village where every single person was murdered or enslaved. Literally no person was left. They also raided Ireland where the same thing happened.
Why reparations? Has the price of ganja risen?
I’m looking forward to receiving my payment from the Italians.
Oh, and since I have Irish and west country ancestry, the descendants of the Barbary Pirates probably owe me a bob or two as well, so I trust Morocco, Algeria and Libya will be coughing up.
Britain is being eaten alive from the inside.
We gave them the Caribbean ffs.
So all those slave dealing states in West Africa should be paying reparations to the West Indies and the southern USA states. And can the UK claim back the costs of stopping the trade?
Harold I’s Danish mother had a nice line in business rounding up attractive English girls to sell abroad as sex slaves. Perhaps Denmark could pay reparations.
It would surely be unfair to levy any sort of reparations on UK citizens were are persons of colour, or who have some other heritage unconnected with slavery, such as the Ukrainians.
Therefore some sort of examination would have to be carried out as to each person’s heritage and ‘culpability’. After all, collective punishment – reparations have only historically been levied on the defeated, such as on the Germans for losing the Great War – must surely be a breach of human rights.
And then there’s the question of the currency to be paid. Surely it would be an insult to pay the people of former colonialised countries in sterling or US dollars, the money once used to purchase slaves. As such countries now proudly possess their own fiat, it must be appropriate to pay in Jamaican, Barbadian or Trinidadian dollars or Gambian dalasi.
Next would be the question of what rate of payment is acceptable; a vexed subject for bankrupt Weimar Germany, and perhaps one for a country that has a ‘black hole’ in its finances (though negotiators sensitive to micro-aggressions would not speak using such a questionable term in these discussions). Additionally, the rate of payment, especially if sterling is to be printed for the purpose, raises the problem of inflation.
As the UK is in economic terms like Manhattan (the City of London) surrounded by an economy poorer than Puerto Rico, it would be the south-east from where most of the money would come for the reparations if they were not levied on individual citizens. An unfair and disproportionate burden.
However, as was done with Weimar Germany to ease and guarantee payment, these Commonwealth countries that want reparations could lend money to the UK to invest in industrial growth from which would come the money for the
shake downreparations.Following that would be the question of what total amount of payment would satisfy. To avoid everyone going mad and jumping overboard, it would be necessary to avoid satisfying resentment by paying money only to become like slaking thirst by drinking seawater. The Atlantic is vast and deep but drinking it all would never soothe a parched throat.
After all that, for the sake of complete justice extend reparations to include the young woman who was trafficked around the UK as a sex slave by a grooming gang.
No.
(if you need further explanation, read a history book.)
Black politicians from Africa in favour of huge British payments to themselves! Now, that’s a surprise.
Exercise for the reader: Name a single African country which could exist without so-called “foreign aid.”
Funny how the ones ‘doing better’ today are the former countries of the Empire…
that’s what it’s all about, what did you expect?