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The Self-Hating Age: How Oikophobia is Dissolving the West

by A. Gibson
11 September 2024 9:00 AM

Societal critique is a central pillar of the Western inheritance. Plato’s Republic and Aristotle’s Politics assess the most fundamental aspects of civilisation and seek to describe the ideal society. Moreover, the Old Testament contains a commentary on the historical development of the Israelites, and its prophets admonish the rich for neglecting the poor. Honest, often harsh self-criticism is embedded in the Western tradition. Indeed, it is a core means by which our civilisation has flourished over the centuries, from the Medieval era, through the Enlightenment and into Modernity.

Yet, over the preceding decades, this tradition of thoughtful, constructive critique has been transmogrified into a poisonous campaign against the heart of Western civilisation. The very organisation of our societies – from the class structure and the family to the economic model – has been under sustained assault. The attack manifests in various modes of pseudo-intellectual ‘deconstruction’, which seek to present the Western status quo, and the history from which it was forged, as innately wicked and repressive.

Although this is now familiar to us in the form of the prevailing woke ideology, the true origins of this attack can be traced to the early part of the 20th century (and, indeed, earlier); but the campaign of grievance and civilisational self-hatred has in recent decades usurped our intellectual traditions to become the dominant mode of Western thought.

In his 2004 book England and the Need for Nations, the British philosopher Roger Scruton termed the rising liberal ideology of self-contempt as oikophobia. The Ancient Greek word for home is oikos; and thus oikophobia, Scruton wrote, is “(stretching the Greek a little) the repudiation of inheritance and home”. It manifests as a consolidated, wide-spanning offensive against the historical, theological, literary, legal and social inheritance that formed the modern West.

The intellectual engine driving oikophobia is a set of ‘critical theories’ that seek to deconstruct (simply: attack) our history, our justice system, our political traditions, and so forth. The essential pillars of our civilisation are smeared by the Left’s creedal oppressor-victim narrative – a simplistic, catch-all lens through which some powerful group is claimed to have exploited and repressed some weaker group. By the lights of this Manichean and warped rubric, the very essence of Western society is castigated as irredeemably wicked.

As Scruton observed: “Oikophobia is a stage through which the adolescent mind normally passes. But it is a stage in which some people — the intellectuals especially — tend to become arrested. As George Orwell pointed out, intellectuals on the Left are especially prone to it, and this has often made them willing agents of foreign powers.” Hence, the tedious political activism that was formerly confined to the university campus has now been propagated across Western institutions and corporations. Indeed, the touted ‘grown-ups’ in the West are now largely liberal oikophobes, educated at elite universities that serve, as the conservative historian Niall Ferguson has argued, to transmit civilisational self-contempt in place of the classical Western inheritance. 

Scruton observed that the Left’s oikophobic movement was cultivated in Western universities over decades. It was propelled especially by the Frankfurt School, a Left-wing academic circle that originated in the Weimar Republic of the interwar period. Critically, its founding thinkers moved to American universities during the 1930s, within which they exerted a profound and lasting influence.

Writers such as Theodor Adorno, Jürgen Habermas and Herbert Marcuse decried the institutions and the very structure of Western civilisation as inherently oppressive. Although now obscure, these thinkers guided the thought of important – and vastly overrated – Left-wing giants of the late 20th century such as Michel Foucault and Jacques Derrida, who in turn formed the modern Left-wing intellectual paradigm. The Frankfurt School thus began a surreptitious and longstanding war against the foundations of Western civilisation from inside its finest academic institutions.

In his excellent book Fools, Frauds and Firebrands: Thinkers of the New Left, Scruton dismantles the intellectual “nonsense machine” created by the modern Left. He observes that, according to the Left-wing rubric, “The condition of society is essentially one of domination, in which people are bound to each other by their attachments, and distinguished by rivalries and competition.” Formerly, it was social class and economic relations that defined the Left’s interpretation of the Western power-struggle. But following the end of the Cold War and the blatant collapse of the socialist economic model, the Left forged new cultural fault-lines out of race, sex and sexuality. This politics of personal identity eventually evolved into the woke dialectic which now dominates our universities with its crude caricatures and biases. Indeed, it has been through the Left’s longstanding capture of these prominent institutions that the oikophobic ideology has been imparted to the Western elite – and hence to society at large.

Importantly, this is not the first time that the intelligentsia has led Western societies dangerously astray. In a recent essay, Niall Ferguson illustrates the parallels between the Left’s ideological capture of the modern university and the leading role played by German academics in the Nazi movement. He writes:

Non-Jewish German academia did not just follow Hitler down the path to hell. It led the way… Anyone who has a naïve belief in the power of higher education to instil ethical values has not studied the history of German universities in the Third Reich. A university degree, far from inoculating Germans against Nazism, made them more likely to embrace it.

Thus, Nazism was not a movement of working-class troglodytes against the learned elite: it was in fact the bien-pensant ideology of the elite. Ferguson continues:

Later, after it was all over, the historian Friedrich Meinecke tried to explain “the German catastrophe” by arguing that excessive technical specialisation had caused some educated Germans (not him, needless to say) to lose sight of the humanistic values of Goethe and Schiller. As a result, they had been unable to resist Hitler’s “mass Machiavellianism”. 

This same rot of excessive specialisation has corrupted modern Western universities. As the American classicist Victor Davis Hanson observes, “special studies courses” have diluted curricula, distracting students – and their professors – from the difficult, traditional subjects of law, history, philosophy and so forth. Hence, the academic elite is exponentially distancing itself from the Western moral and intellectual inheritance, leaving a vacuum that is being steadily filled by oikophobic ‘grievance studies’ that attack the core of our civilisation.

So, what forms does the modern oikophobic assault against the West take? The campaign is waged on four principal battlefronts. First, Western history is condemned in an ahistorical, gratuitously unfair, even smirking, manner. European colonialism is presented as a purely racist endeavour, dismissing and denying all of its moral and material complexity.

Similarly, the greatest figures of the modern West – including Winston Churchill, the American Founding Fathers and Abraham Lincoln – are besmirched as incorrigible oppressors and racists who fail the modern, specifically Left-wing morality-tests. It is obvious that the aim is not to revise history in the spirit of curiosity and truth, but rather to disparage and poison the heroes and events that anchor us to a nation and to a collective past. In short, it is designed to sever us from the very roots of our civilisation, thereby creating an historical tabula rasa onto which a new Utopian society can be inscribed.

Second, the theological basis of the modern West – Christianity – has been assailed ferociously by the secular Left. The attack gained momentum through the 20th century and was given a strong boost by the popular New Atheist movement of the early 2000s, which targeted Christianity and the Bible in particular.

Moreover, the modern Left shows consistent bias towards Islam and other non-Western religions, whilst agitating fervently against Christianity and the cultural influence it has traditionally wielded. Indeed, this theological attack is a foundational pillar of the oikophobic campaign: for it was through our Christian heritage that the moral and social cosmos of the West was formed. And it is therefore only by breaking our allegiance to that cosmos that the new ‘progressive’ morality of the Left can be imposed.

Third, contempt for traditional customs and simple patriotism has become a familiar and undisguised trait of the oikophobic Left. Indeed, George Orwell recognised the roots of this adolescent sentiment in his great 1941 essay, England Your England. He wrote:

In Left-wing circles it is always felt that there is something slightly disgraceful in being an Englishman and that it is a duty to snigger at every English institution, from horse racing to suet puddings. It is a strange fact, but it is unquestionably true that almost any English intellectual would feel more ashamed of standing to attention during ‘God Save the King’ than of stealing from a poor box.

Such absurd antipathy has only worsened: increasingly in the West, the metropolitan, monied upper-classes are dissociating themselves from the largely provincial, poorer working-classes. This manifests in an enduring attack on tradition and patriotism. In Britain, for example, the English flag and St. George’s Day are increasingly treated as symbols of pseudo-fascism by smug, university-educated liberals. In America, too, the sentiments and loyalties of ordinary people – particularly those of the Rust Belt and the Deep South – are sneered at by the bicoastal, metropolitan Left.

Fourth, as Orwell further noted in England Your England, a chief symptom of the Left’s worldview is its servility to anti-Western foreign regimes. In Orwell’s day, members of the Left were beguiled by Stalin’s Soviet Union, denying or excusing its appalling crimes. Today, we see the Left’s chronic apologism for Iran’s dangerous aggressions in the Middle-East. China – a repressive, imperialist, post-communist dystopia – is treated with absurd sympathy, too.

These strange allegiances are motivated by the familiar Left-wing dogma which states that foreign cultures must not be criticised; but it is also part of a juvenile and spiteful compulsion on the Left to side with whatever is not Western against the West. Perhaps the most outrageously hateful personification of this oikophobic preference for foreign agents is the overt support for Hamas among many pampered young activists at American and European universities. Much of this shocking outburst is certainly antisemitic. But it is, above all, specifically anti-Western and oikophobic in its origin and intent. Israel is monstered by Left-wing radicals precisely because it is a Western, democratic, free, prosperous enclave surrounded by hostile and repressive non-Western neighbours. Such radicals are indeed the pro-Stalinists of our time.

Why has oikophobia emerged in our civilisation – and why is it accelerating? Crucially, the oikophobic attack has recurred throughout Western history. In his 2022 book Western Self-Contempt: Oikophobia in the Decline of Civilisations, the philosopher Dr. Benedict Beckeld observes that the elites of Ancient Athens and Rome became openly contemptuous of their own civilisations during the latter stages of their respective declines. In both societies, it was a phenomenon of the elites and the intellectual class. It was not shared by the people at large, who continued, broadly, to uphold the conservative, patriotic traditions by which the state and society had been served and respected.

Beckeld argues that, in a civilisation’s early days, its confidence rides high; yet, once external enemies have been defeated, and as decadence, leisure, egalitarianism and individual empowerment set in, new internal enemies and regressive political machinations are crafted. Thus, writes Beckeld, “success is, ironically, a prerequisite for a society’s self-hatred”.

The modern oikophobic attack on the West should thus be interpreted as both a symptom and a cause of our own steady decline. The sense of self-contempt, downturn and moral guilt was exacerbated by the great catastrophes of the last century: the world wars; financial and imperial decline; the Holocaust; the 1960s social revolutions; and the calamity in Vietnam. These all undermined Western moral and civilisational confidence, lending credence to the budding preachers of self-hatred. However, as the oikophobic intellectual attack has taken ever-bolder shape, it has itself served to profoundly accelerate and deepen our decline by fragmenting Western peoples along cultural lines and corrupting the hearts of our most valuable institutions.  

The only remedy is to recover the true roots of the Western intellectual heritage. Criticism must once again, in the spirit of Plato and Aristotle, serve to advance our civilisation, not smear and dismantle it. Reconstruction begins in our universities, where the traditions of free inquiry and the rigorous pursuit of truth must be retrieved. Our other institutions will follow the academics’ lead – just as they have done historically.

So, as Roger Scruton advised shortly before his death, we must simply stop listening to the Left’s high priests that currently sit enthroned in the Western Academy, and recover our higher inheritance.

A. Gibson graduated in Philosophy from the University of Edinburgh in 2012. He writes the Fathom Five Substack newsletter. Subscribe here.

Tags: Critical Social Justice TheoryFrankfurt SchoolOikophobiaRoger ScrutonWestern CivilisationWoke Gobbledegook

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Moderate Radical
Moderate Radical
3 years ago

How timely.

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Libertarianist
Libertarianist
3 years ago
Reply to  Moderate Radical

Quite

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Hopeless - "TN,BN"
Hopeless - "TN,BN"
3 years ago

I don’t know about “stood down”. “Locked up” or “hung out to dry” would be my more charitable preferences.

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ImpObs
ImpObs
3 years ago
Reply to  Hopeless - "TN,BN"

I wonder what the bill was for SAGE, and can we have a clawback clause in any future contracts!

There must be some law we could get them with, gross negligence, malfeasance…

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Less government
Less government
3 years ago
Reply to  ImpObs

We most definitely need retribution. They should be hung out to be shamed, fined and imprisoned. What’s going down in the US also applies here…
Peter McCullough and Robert Malone call out corruption in the CDC , FDA , Pfizer and Military medical reporting of data to hide vaccine harm.

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TheyLiveAndWeLockdown
TheyLiveAndWeLockdown
3 years ago
Reply to  Hopeless - "TN,BN"

Perhaps a free trip on a tumbril?

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Marcus Aurelius knew
Marcus Aurelius knew
3 years ago
Reply to  TheyLiveAndWeLockdown

They’re not dead yet.

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Milo
Milo
3 years ago
Reply to  Hopeless - "TN,BN"

Is that a permanent standing down or a suspension, so that SAGE can be “re-activated” in the future should the need arise?

Whatever it is – it is LONG overdue. Their pronouncements were just harmful most of the time – they should never have been given the prominence they acquired.

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Hopeless - "TN,BN"
Hopeless - "TN,BN"
3 years ago
Reply to  Milo

Once the worm is in the apple, it’s hard to be rid of. Crushing it, boiling it or chopping it up are ways to go.

It’s probably best to regard SAGE as endemic, unless we can achieve Zero-SAGE.

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RW
RW
3 years ago
Reply to  Hopeless - "TN,BN"

We cannot live with endemic SAGE, hence, Zero SAGE is the only viable option! 🙂

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Jabba the Hut
Jabba the Hut
3 years ago
Reply to  Hopeless - "TN,BN"

The clowns get in their clown car. Just as the vaccine wheels are about to fall off.

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PatrickF
PatrickF
3 years ago

Off topic, but Rod Marsh, 74 and Shane Warne, 52 both die of heart attacks.
Has anyone in the MSM mentioned the possibility of vaccine side effects?
This is one of your legacies, Gates, Fauci, Johnson et al.

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rtj1211
rtj1211
3 years ago
Reply to  PatrickF

They should do a post-mortem on Warne and see if he had tell-tale Covid complications.

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LovelyGirl
LovelyGirl
3 years ago
Reply to  PatrickF

Telegraph readers appear to be on the case, though it would be a miracle if any legacy media said anything about it.

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Milo
Milo
3 years ago
Reply to  PatrickF

As soon as I saw the Warney news my first thought was – jabbing injury.

For all his hard living and partying ways he was a very fit sportsman in his latter years, having been ‘made over’ when he was dating Liz Hurley.

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Cecil B
Cecil B
3 years ago
Reply to  PatrickF

Both died on the same day

What does this tell us?

1 There is nothing to see here
2 Please move on
3 Coincidences happen

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rtj1211
rtj1211
3 years ago
Reply to  Cecil B

They died one day apart, actually, because Warne actually commented on the death of Marsh.

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milesahead
milesahead
3 years ago
Reply to  rtj1211

He commented on it 12 hours before he died, didn’t he?

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sobers
sobers
3 years ago
Reply to  PatrickF

No-one will mention vaccines, other than places like here. They are the ‘thing that must not be mentioned’ in the MSM, just like when a terrorist outrage happens the ethnicity/religious ideology of the perpetrators must not be mentioned either.

I said when the vaccination started that the powers that be would sweep everything under the carpet if it turned out badly. Only if people had been dropping like flies in the vaccination centres would they have been forced to stop. Once you get home everything is capable of being denied. Oh yes 52 year old men in the prime of life quite often suddenly have massive heart attacks. Move along, nothing to see here.

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TheyLiveAndWeLockdown
TheyLiveAndWeLockdown
3 years ago
Reply to  sobers

just try posting that Sky Link
https://www.skynews.com.au/australia-news/get-vaccinated-and-learn-to-live-with-it-shane-warne/video/9d147b8b2485b98ed164612d2468d6a4
on YouTube the video streaming arm of censorship engine google to see it auto deleted.

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Early Doubter
Early Doubter
3 years ago
Reply to  TheyLiveAndWeLockdown

‘Get vaccinated and learn to live with it’: Shane Warne
July 27, 2021 – 10:18AM
“Former cricketer Shane Warne says it’s now a matter of “getting on with it” and learning to live with COVID-19 by getting vaccinated.”
But of course video has vanished.

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BillRiceJr
BillRiceJr
3 years ago
Reply to  sobers

They can’t admit they were wrong now. Not with carnage on a massive scale. They all know they “Must hang together …. lest we all hang together.”

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mwhite
mwhite
3 years ago
Reply to  BillRiceJr

If an abnormally large number of well known people start having hart attacks and strokes people are going to notice.
“They can’t admit they were wrong now” True, but they’ll find some scapegoat.

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BillRiceJr
BillRiceJr
3 years ago
Reply to  mwhite

I love to make predictions but I was spectacularly wrong on one of them. Before the vaccines were rolled out, I predicted that the PCR tests would be “adjusted” to show far fewer cases of COVD (once lots of people started to get vaccinated). My thought was that it would be a disaster for the vaccine narrative if 70 percent of the population got vaccinated … and “cases” were still sky-high.This would prove that the vaccines don’t work.

Well, 70 percent of the country dutifully got vaccinated and “cases” doubled – deaths and hospitalizations also remained high.

And, lo and behold, the push for mandatory vaccines became more strident and authoritarian. Somehow the very thing I thought they couldn’t allow (undeniable evidence the vaccines don’t work) did happen. And this was spun to mean that the vaccines were more important than ever.

When I made that prediction, I didn’t know I was now living in Alice’s Wonderland.

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stewart
stewart
3 years ago
Reply to  mwhite

Most people will never admit it’s a problem because nobody wants to live with the feeling that they are at risk of a heart attack. They’ll convince themselves of any other explanation to live more at ease.

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Francis64
Francis64
3 years ago
Reply to  PatrickF

…

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mwhite
mwhite
3 years ago
Reply to  PatrickF

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Ej6PIVnHeQ

Hypothesis for the post vaccine myocarditis and the possibility of hidden myocarditis.

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PatrickF
PatrickF
3 years ago
Reply to  mwhite

Thanks for link. Fascinating!

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NeilofWatford
NeilofWatford
3 years ago
Reply to  PatrickF

According to the Hindustan Times Warne had Covid a few months ago and was double jabbed.

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Early Doubter
Early Doubter
3 years ago
Reply to  PatrickF

‘Get vaccinated and learn to live with it’: Shane Warne
July 27, 2021 – 10:18AM

Former cricketer Shane Warne says it’s now a matter of “getting on with it” and learning to live with COVID-19 by getting vaccinated.

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NickR
NickR
3 years ago

These people have blood on their hands.

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rtj1211
rtj1211
3 years ago

Right, they’re no longer controlling policy.

Next step is making them the subjects of criminal investigations and putting them where they belong.

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Jonny S.
Jonny S.
3 years ago
Reply to  rtj1211

https://www.thebernician.net/pcp-update-judge-assigned-to-midazolam-murders-case/

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Arfur Mo
Arfur Mo
3 years ago
Reply to  Jonny S.

What are the odds he/she/it is a ‘safe pair of hands’?

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TSull
TSull
3 years ago
Reply to  rtj1211

Do you mean six feet under?

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TheyLiveAndWeLockdown
TheyLiveAndWeLockdown
3 years ago

Knighthoods all round for services to gouging the taxpayer.

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HelenaHancart
HelenaHancart
3 years ago

Nothing has really been lifted, its just been shifted…out of sight. Check out the UKHSA “new guidance”. Nothing has changed that much. https://www.gov.uk/government/news/public-reminded-to-stay-safe-as-covid-19-england-restrictions-lift

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DodosArentDead
DodosArentDead
3 years ago
Reply to  HelenaHancart

Correct. All part of the overall reset plan.

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BillRiceJr
BillRiceJr
3 years ago
Reply to  DodosArentDead

Great question! The only reason they might stop is if they were worried about being exposed and faced consequences. But they know they are not going to be exposed and will never face negative consequences.

For this, they can thank their friends in the mainstream media “watchdog press.”

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RW
RW
3 years ago
Reply to  HelenaHancart

Something has quite significantly changed here (there’s also a good TCW article on this in the overview, BTW): While we’re not definitely out of the woods yet, at the moment, these people are fuming on the backseat and/or preaching to the choir of true believers. If all goes well, they’ll become progressively less important until they’re just petty sects with weird ideas nobody cares about.

They won’t ever really stop.

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unmaskthetruth
unmaskthetruth
3 years ago

Great news. Now we can all get back to our normal lives. All seems like a bad dream now.

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Mulgan
Mulgan
3 years ago

Put ‘em away like sage and onion stuffing balls

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Star
Star
3 years ago
Reply to  Mulgan

They’ll be back. There’s still huge mileage in the “Follow the Science” cr*p.

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BillRiceJr
BillRiceJr
3 years ago
Reply to  Star

Of course they will be back. Every one of these “public health agencies” now has more employees and much larger budgets. They are not going to suddenly retreat into the background.

Promoting vaccines – from the flu vaccine, shingles vaccine, pneumonia vaccine to the COVID vaccine for children 6 months and older – is what these agencies do. And they use tax payer money for all their advertising, on top of the billions of dollars in free advertising they get from their media partners.

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Star
Star
3 years ago

Funny how a big rise in so-called “cases” means “Panic!” in December, but then in March (when they want people to get ready to spend lots of money on leisure and flights and holidays) it can be disregarded and doesn’t mean shee-yit.

Meanwhile, the FTSE100 is 3.5% down today as I type…

…and if anyone thinks NATO could win a war against Russia, I suggest they click here. Keti, by the way, is Georgian and she sings for a group with its roots in Kazakhstan. Many other links could make the same point. Morale is higher in Russia. It’s down the toilet in the west.

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tom171uk
tom171uk
3 years ago
Reply to  Star

Morale is down the toilet because we have had two years of being well and truly f*cked over by our own government.

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TheyLiveAndWeLockdown
TheyLiveAndWeLockdown
3 years ago
Reply to  tom171uk

That’s historically usual, the difference recently is they haven’t tried to hide how much they rob us!

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RW
RW
3 years ago
Reply to  Star

There is no war between NATO and Russia and it’s seriously unlikely that there’ll be one. Putin has enough troubles subdueing Ukraine. Why would he voluntarily open a second front with a stronger opponent?

There’s also no big rise in cases (of positive test results). Unfortunately, Johnson was talked into letting the testing free-for-all go on for another month. Hence, we’ll be looking forward to another month of meaningless numbers.

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Emerald Fox
Emerald Fox
3 years ago
Reply to  RW

May be worth a watch?

“Putin‘s Power & Western Impotence”

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=he25Rl0fE1c

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RW
RW
3 years ago
Reply to  Emerald Fox

I managed until 01:42 of idle babbling when the

We believe that everybody should have the same values as a nice, woke public school girl, age 16. No, it ain’t true!

came. I’m not American. And I don’t have time to waste on American nonsense of this kind. Neither the counter- nor the pro-nonsense.

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tom171uk
tom171uk
3 years ago

Great. Now can I visit my Mum in her care home without shoving a stick up my nose and reporting the result to the state? Oh, and paying to do it?

It ain’t over by a long shot.

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Star
Star
3 years ago
Reply to  tom171uk

Similarly, can I go abroad and then return to Britain without being under the same obligation?

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John Dee
John Dee
3 years ago

I’ve decided that SAGE is a good collective noun for parasitic w***ers.

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Marcus Aurelius knew
Marcus Aurelius knew
3 years ago

“itS tHe EnD oF tHe pANdeMic”

There. Never. Was. A. Pandemic.

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rtaylor
rtaylor
3 years ago

I wouldn’t want to have SAGE on my CV or be connected to any on Linkedin when the die-off picks up pace.

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Marcus Aurelius knew
Marcus Aurelius knew
3 years ago
Reply to  rtaylor

In the first couple of weeks of Lockdown Number One, I was getting at least three enquiries a day from recruiters wanting me to “work at the forefront of medical technology”. I ignored the lot.

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rtaylor
rtaylor
3 years ago
Reply to  Marcus Aurelius knew

Good man.

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RW
RW
3 years ago
Reply to  rtaylor

A shop in the local mall has a sign reading We train our staff to be experts. Whenever I’m walking past that, I can’t help thinking about the possibilty of angry members of the public storming in there, So YOU are these experts I kept reading about!, followed by an outburst of violence.

🙂 🙂

I certainly wouldn’t want to be called an expert on anything at the moment, regardless of my expertise.

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Cecil B
Cecil B
3 years ago

‘SAGE’

The mother of all misnomers

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RW
RW
3 years ago
Reply to  Cecil B

Or maybe not: That’s what they aspire to be: Soothsayers, sorcerers and witches of outstanding experience, ability and wisdom. Just the irrational, anti-science lot they happen to be.

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Liz F
Liz F
3 years ago
Reply to  Cecil B

But doesn’t SAGE stand for Stupid Ars*holes Generating Excrement?

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Emerald Fox
Emerald Fox
3 years ago
Reply to  Liz F

Stung And Got Everyone

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Aletheia of Oceania
Aletheia of Oceania
3 years ago
Reply to  Liz F

State-sponsered Antagonists Guiding Etiquette

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Emerald Fox
Emerald Fox
3 years ago
Reply to  Cecil B

Well, they sagely conned a lot of people and filled their own bank accounts, so perhaps it was an appropriate tag after all?

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DanClarke
DanClarke
3 years ago

They’ve been totally discredited so probably best they go.

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Liz F
Liz F
3 years ago

So if the “pandemic” is over, does that mean the jab juices will be suspended as they only have Emergency Use Authorisation?

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BillRiceJr
BillRiceJr
3 years ago

“Next time we’ll need better advisers …”

What about NO advisers? Let citizens decide for themselves what they should or shouldn’t do to protect their own health.

In America, we should disband the CDC, NIH and all 50 State Health Agencies. Can anyone make a convincing argument that, in the net, these agencies have saved lives? It would be much easier to make a compelling argument that the policies and “guidance” of these agencies have contributed/caused the unnecessary deaths of thousands of U.S. citizens.

In his book “The Real Fauci,” RFK, Jr. makes a persuasive argument that “public health” has become far worse since these agencies became far larger and more powerful.

 

Last edited 3 years ago by BillRiceJr
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TheyLiveAndWeLockdown
TheyLiveAndWeLockdown
3 years ago
Reply to  BillRiceJr

Perhaps if they only got paid for medicine 5 years after treatment ?

The regulator is there to increase the profits of patent rent-seeking business at the expense of patients.

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lutherkehrt@gmail.com
lutherkehrt@gmail.com
3 years ago

Until they call an official end to the emergency, and stop coercing people into being jabbed and tested, both pintless activities (or worse)it isn’t over.

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doobedoobedo
doobedoobedo
3 years ago

Covid’s over – there’s a war to promote now.

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lutherkehrt@gmail.com
lutherkehrt@gmail.com
3 years ago

Until the emergency is ended, and they stop coercing people into having pointless jabs and tests nothing is over.

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lordsnooty
lordsnooty
3 years ago
Reply to  lutherkehrt@gmail.com

Gird your loins, I’m afraid there will be no Victory Virus VV day since a new Variant is due in the next week or two, the PI variant. It will be ten times more transmissible than Omicron and 100 times more deadly than Ebola.

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BillRiceJr
BillRiceJr
3 years ago
Reply to  lutherkehrt@gmail.com

Yep. For example, I don’t think Austria has rescinded its Mandatory Vaccine (and mandatory Vaccine Passport) Law. This is the one where the government can fine you $4,000 for not getting an experimental “vaccine.”

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lordsnooty
lordsnooty
3 years ago

re :Profanity and abuse will be removed and may lead to a permanent ban.

SAGE rickly deserve much Profanity and abuse. At least let me say, good riddance to bad rubbish, now ban me if you wish.

Last edited 3 years ago by Hardliner
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swiftyUK
swiftyUK
3 years ago

As the ‘pandemic’ is over, shouldn’t the so-called ‘vaccines’ be withdrawn as they were only given Emergency Use Authorisation and have not been formally approved

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TheyLiveAndWeLockdown
TheyLiveAndWeLockdown
3 years ago
Reply to  swiftyUK

But that would imply the jabs have nothing to do with health?!?

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JohnK
JohnK
3 years ago
Reply to  swiftyUK

Logically yes. Followed by an outbreak of suits for damages caused by it, if it’s use continues.

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Boomer Bloke
Boomer Bloke
3 years ago

I’m wondering when they will be stood up…against a wall.

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Jo Starlin
Jo Starlin
3 years ago

*Insert profanity and abuse of your choice here*

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Ross Hendry
Ross Hendry
3 years ago

Professor Carl Heneghan says it all.

Whitty and Vallance aka “the Chuckle brothers” can go and perform their miserablist act elsewhere. No doubt it made them feel terribly important but most of us got their number and sussed their association with Big Pharma.

Bye boys, stay safe – not. Take a long walk on a short pier, preferably with the overgrown computer nerd Prof. Pantsdown and his German floosie.

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Emerald Fox
Emerald Fox
3 years ago
Reply to  Ross Hendry

“Professor Neil Ferguson’s married lover declared she was enjoying home-schooling her children and spending more time with her husband while secretly leaving their £1.9million home for liaisons with the eminent scientist, MailOnline can reveal today.”

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8293057/How-Neil-Fergusons-married-lover-enjoys-perfect-family-life.html

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prick
prick
3 years ago
Reply to  Emerald Fox

Two slags

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mwhite
mwhite
3 years ago

So basically two winters and then went into decline, just like the Spanish flu and all the other pandemics.

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BillRiceJr
BillRiceJr
3 years ago
Reply to  mwhite

It will probably be back in next year’s “cold and flu season.” It’s so obvious this is a seasonal disease/virus. Of course next year they will probably do away with testing and/or reduce the PCR cycle threshold number to 22.

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paul parmenter
paul parmenter
3 years ago

So what comes next?

  1. A well-deserved raft of criminal charges; or
  2. Gongs and golden handshakes all round.

No prizes for your prediction.

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BillRiceJr
BillRiceJr
3 years ago

BTW, thanks to The Daily Skeptic and its brave and smart contributors for highlighting so many of the findings and issues that probably helped lead to the end of this Adviser Group and a change in policy.

See? Dissent matters and is kind of important … Which is no doubt why dissent is now being criminalized and free speech attacked and abolished. Sigh.

Last edited 3 years ago by BillRiceJr
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paul parmenter
paul parmenter
3 years ago
Reply to  BillRiceJr

Good point. If everyone in the country had knuckled under without a whimper and stayed in thrall to this bunch, does anyone have any doubt that they would have remained ensconced in place, and no doubt piling on an endless stream of “recommendations” to keep us under their thumbs where they think we all belong?

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huxleypiggles
huxleypiggles
3 years ago

Right get the duckin lot of them in court for crimes against humanity.

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miketa1957
miketa1957
3 years ago

SAGE should not be stood down. SAGE should be lined up against a wall and shot.

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Rogerborg
Rogerborg
3 years ago
Reply to  miketa1957

… in Minecraft.

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The old bat
The old bat
3 years ago

If the ‘covid crisis’ is over, why is it so difficult for me to travel abroad and why do I have to wear a mask on the aircraft?
Why do I keep getting text messages and letters telling me to come and have my 3rd vaccine?
Why do supermarkets, etc, still have screens up, traffic lights on the doors and mask and social distancing instructions up?
Why does my gp have a long list of instructions you have to follow before you can enter the building?
In my opinion, it’s all in abeyance. It will be back in some form or another – they are just trying to work out how they can mould the current restrictions into net zero necessities, or even perhaps another made up illness to keep us under the thumb. I do not trust the government one little bit. Stay sharp everyone.

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John001
John001
3 years ago
Reply to  The old bat

I’d sue the bastards if they’re sending you endless texts. It breaches data protection legislation. Beyond a certain point it would be harassment. That’s a civil or criminal offence too.

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CynicalRealist
CynicalRealist
3 years ago
Reply to  John001

Doubt you’ll get anywhere. I went as far as the data protection complaints procedure with NHS England over clotshot harassment. When my complaint was rejected (which came as a massive surprise, obviously), I put in a complaint to the ICO and received an acknowledgement, Since then (many months on), nothing. Again, this was a massive surprise.

The basic argument they made was that because of the data processing reason they were using (public health) they aren’t legally obliged to provide an opt out. My counter argument is that while this is true, there still has to be an element of reasonableness, and repeatedly sending letters and texts despite being repeatedly asked to stop goes well beyond what is reasonable, given that being clotshotted is not a legal obligation and they therefore cannot justify repeated harassment like this. I also contacted the police speculatively to ask whether this is something they would be able to look into (potential harassment or one of the communications offences) – got a response saying yes potentially if I wanted to send details. I didn’t bother in the end because NHS England seemed to have backed off at that point.

During December and January and into February the harassment responsibiliity seems to have moved to GPs. After the first text I messaged them asking them to stop,which they ignored and I received four or five more. Next time I go in there I do intend to ask why they consider it acceptable to carry on like this, but realistically it’s a waste of time – no governmental body, be it any part of the NHS, the ICO or the police, is going to concede that the clotshot harassment was not acceptable – they will all be under instructions from the government to reject any complaints.

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Milo
Milo
3 years ago
Reply to  CynicalRealist

2 things occur to me.

  1. The huge number of advantages which accrue to me through not having a mobile phone of any kind (AKA tracking device). So far I have had only one hard copy letter from my GP which I didn’t reply to.
  2. You should have persisted with your harassment complaint – while they might “seem” to have backed off for now, don’t bet against them starting again some time in the future. If you had pursued it with the police, and they said they’d look into it, you might have got a result which could have made a difference and set a precedent.
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Milo
Milo
3 years ago
Reply to  The old bat

I saw a video doing the rounds at Christmas. It was of Leo Varadker [Irish deputy PM] at the podium telling a room full of journos how it was all going to pan out. He said, with a smirk, that lockdowns over winter were going to be a ‘thing’ for the foreseeable future [he meant years] and that there would be “unlocking” in the summer. I think he actually said words like “we will let people out” in reference to the spring/summer period. Tells me where this is headed.

Last edited 3 years ago by Milo
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CovidisCommunism
CovidisCommunism
3 years ago

Why anyone would listen too a bunch of lunatics who all look like Child abusers is beyond me , Sage are just absolutely vile

I will not forgive or forget what they have done till this day people still believe you can be asymptotic and pass Covid on with no symptomsand I also cannot believe Sage still seem to be there they got everything wrong yet if they ran a restaurant they would be gone sacked but they stay regardless of the mass damage they have done to society no one will ever say it

but society has gone too many people are brainwashed, and believe the narrative too many wear masks and clapped for the NHS and live in a nice big house with two children and a big garden will be jabbed to go on holiday, middle class people well very middle class in some terms too many will do as they are told .

that is why state education is indoctrination now not too question authority .

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Emerald Fox
Emerald Fox
3 years ago
Reply to  CovidisCommunism

Here they all are!

https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/scientific-advisory-group-for-emergencies-sage-coronavirus-covid-19-response-membership/list-of-participants-of-sage-and-related-sub-groups

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Emerald Fox
Emerald Fox
3 years ago

As the subject is SAGE, it’s time to remind everyone that Billy Hunt (anyone know where he lives? – Manchester accent?) thinks one of their members is the “saviour of all civilisation”:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dpCxpmegbnE

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DevonBlueBoy
DevonBlueBoy
3 years ago
Reply to  Emerald Fox

That song must have been sarcastic, surely??

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Emmelda Johnson
Emmelda Johnson
3 years ago

The sadness of it all is the profanity and abuse heaped upon those saying ‘hang on, let’s be sensible’. The signatories to the Great Barrington Declaration. Let’s applaud them.

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Rogerborg
Rogerborg
3 years ago

Like Spy-and-Snitch, like the vaxpässen system, the SAGE cabal remains in existence, and ready to spring into action and control every aspect of our lives again in response to COOFS-22, the Climate Catastrophe, or just in the name of Social Equity.

All that’s changing is that we are being told to stop talking about it, and to pretend that it’s all gone away.

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Star
Star
3 years ago

SAGE “stand ready if required” – haha. They’re a group of amoral careerist “professionals” who sat on a government committee for a short time. They’re not a f***ing military unit.

Perhaps they will come again in England’s time of greatest need, like King Arthur?

In other news, say what you like about Vladimir Putin, but at least he’s banned Facebook.

Astute observers will note that the Russian ambassador in London isn’t getting invited onto British TV or quoted in British newspapers. Here are two interesting questions:

1) For how long will you be able to access the Russian government news agency’s website TASS.com (or RT.com), through whatever means you currently access the internet?

2) For how long will you be allowed to send or post links to pages at TASS.com (or RT.com) to people you know, using whatever means you currently use to send or post links?

Just as Facebook can stop people using its equipment to send each other links to RT.com webpages, Google can stop allowing people to do the same using their Gmail accounts. (Sure, only an idiot uses a Gmail account in the first place, but there are a lot of idiots in this world.) As for Whatsapp and Instagram, they are owned by Facebook already. Microsoft can stop people sending links to such Russian sites using Skype, and so on.

Then there is whatever ISP you use, whatever phone company (or “network provider” as I believe is the parlance), etc. There are many companies that can stop you using their equipment to send information about stuff they don’t want you to. They can also let you think you’re sending it when actually you’re not – a weapon called “muting”.

What applies to Russian government sites also applies to antiwar sites whether in Russia, Ukraine, or elsewere – and sites which may not necessarily be full-on “antiwar” but just sites where people honestly share real info from their own real lives about what’s going on. (Lest anyone think otherwise: Twitter and Facebook are NOT that. They have never been that. They are CIA toilets.) Too much of that, and seriously just forget the idea of using the internet or mobile phones for it.

To reprise a slogan from 1968:

LONG LIVE COMMUNICATION, DOWN WITH TELECOMMUNICATION .

Last edited 3 years ago by Star
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NeilofWatford
NeilofWatford
3 years ago

There’s a very large carpet with ‘Ukraine’ written on it, and Johnson and his Reset Gang have a large broom …

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Pete Sutton
Pete Sutton
3 years ago

Susan Michie will spend the weekend thinking up vital advice on UK’s response to Ukraine events.

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CynicalRealist
CynicalRealist
3 years ago
Reply to  Pete Sutton

Getting everyone to wear face nappies forever should do it!

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brachiopod
brachiopod
3 years ago
Reply to  Pete Sutton

How different is sending vulnerable people to work, on crowded public transport, wearing a dangerously useless face ‘covering’ from giving guns to untrained civilians of any age when they will be facing trained soldiers?

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DevonBlueBoy
DevonBlueBoy
3 years ago
Reply to  Pete Sutton

Having first spoken to her handlers in Moscow no doubt

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prick
prick
3 years ago

Shot down would have been better.

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peyrole
peyrole
3 years ago

Unlikely Carl is going to be offered a post, unfortunately.

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JudyRobinson
JudyRobinson
3 years ago

In 2015, Dr Satoshi Omura was awarded the Nobel Prize for Medicine for his work that led to the development of Ivermectin, a drug that has helped millions of people. CommieTube deleted a video of him speaking about the benefits of Ivermectin because he doesn’t understand the science of Ivermectin!! Are you AWAKE YET? You can get your ivm by visiting https://ivmpharmacy.com

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Judy Watson
Judy Watson
3 years ago

About bloody time. Hopefully NEVER to be resurrected

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Less government
Less government
3 years ago

“Next time we’ll need better advisers, and that will mean changing who picks them. We can’t afford to face another pandemic with Witless and Unbalanced heading up the advisory team. There needs to be change at the top.”D
Who was the saboteur that selected these idiots? Sedwill?

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wantok87
wantok87
3 years ago

An enquiry into the damage caused to society and individuals caused by SAGE should be instituted. The conflict of interests and errors need to be exposed and liability determined.Never again can we permit individuals to determine “the science “ and inflict harm based on guesswork. They need to be held to account!

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DevonBlueBoy
DevonBlueBoy
3 years ago

Good riddance to bad rubbish

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bowlsman
bowlsman
3 years ago

Over. Not quite yet for me. Not while anyone in government is even looking in the direction on these people.
Also we must NEVER NEVER NEVER forget the terrible damage these people have wrought on our country and populace.
Theres a long way to go to repair the mental damage and mass phsycosis a lot of people are still suffering from.
Never mind anything else.

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Human Resource 19510203
Human Resource 19510203
3 years ago

The problem with it all was that there was NO-ONE, literally NO-ONE, considering and advising on the economic, educational, social and long-term health aspects, both physiological and psychological, of the disastrous lockdown and masking policies. It must NEVER be allowed to happen again.

Last edited 3 years ago by Human Resource 19510203
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Grumman
Grumman
3 years ago

They should not be stood down they should be stood up and held accountable. There was no science and no medical advise given it was pure utter fearmongering, with the purpose to negate a 10 year trial period for a new style gene therapy. Criminal behaviour condoned by the government . Unforgivable.

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chas cowie
chas cowie
3 years ago

Covid is over. The new fear is the war in Ukraine. The Establishment is starting to get worried as their Great Reset is coming off the rails so it looks like the new plan is to destroy the world physically. My guess is that it is becoming urgent as come November and the US mid terms The Establishment is going to be so badly kicked out in the US that it will be game over.

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Milo
Milo
3 years ago
Reply to  chas cowie

Sorry chas but it is hard to see covid as anything other than “Part 1” of a plan with many parts.

Covid “ended” all around the world at the same time, co-incidentally as the WEF call went out for the start of “Part 2” which is the “war in Ukraine” (duration and outcome as yet unknown but likely to do a lot more of the damage they seek) “Part 3” is likely to flow from the cumulative effects of both Parts 1 and 2 ie inflation, cost of living crisis and the impoverishment of a great enough number of people that they cry out for their governments to “rescue them” in the form of Universal Basic Income (UBI)

UBI was discussed last night on GB News. So, it has moved from the conspiracy theorist zone of the internet to the TV screen. I almost fell off my sofa. Their poll showed approx 72% opposed to it. That is fine when it is theoretical but when the inflation and cost of living really begin to hit hard that opposition might deteriorate and turn into support.

I didn’t follow the whole item as I was, TBH, a bit distressed to see how far the WEF has managed to progress their reset agenda in less than 2 years if GB News is discussing UBI like it deserves airtime.

If it is the case that the programme didn’t explain to people that UBI is all part of the GR and how people will be enslaved to their governments and controlled then that needs to be addressed and rectified. If GB News is going to start covering this then it needs to tell the whole story and make sure that people are left in no doubt about the full context AND where it might lead.

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Martin Frost
Martin Frost
3 years ago

The great panic appears to be over until the next time. The objective has been achieved. A population cowed by Government directives and relentless propaganda from formerly trustworthy sources. Our lives are permanently transformed and not for the better. Non-productive bureaucrats of all descriptions are the cats that got the cream ( all of it) with society’s doers put firmly in their place. Those responsible for creating this new normal paradise for themselves can not be allowed to get away with it. Every effort should be made to explain to people what was done to them in the name of health security. Even for those who emerged as winners, it is important to keep reminding them of the cost of their victory and what has been lost. As for our Prime Minister’s use of historical metaphors, no Freedom day does not equate to VE Day. Churchill would never have sacrificed freedom and liberty on such flimsy pretexts as you and your cronies did Mr Johnson. You should remember that.

Last edited 3 years ago by Martin Frost
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jingleballix
jingleballix
3 years ago

All this means is that Johnson & co. believe that they have enough people jabbed, and that the next part of the plan can be implemented.

This will be the signing of the WHO ‘global pandemic response’ treaty – w/o debate, and the cover of Ukraine issues.

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Banjones
Banjones
3 years ago

”Stands ready if required…” I bet they do. On a nice fat retainer too, probably.

If there is another ”emergency” then it should be a completely different set of ”experts” who really ARE experts in whatever field is appropriate. Not this bunch of self-serving behavioural psychopaths who’ve do nothing but harm in many ways.

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