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Should These Labour MPs go to Prison Too?

by Toby Young
13 August 2024 1:00 PM

Michael Deacon has written a brilliant column for today’s Telegraph this morning pointing out that if the authorities are going to prosecute people for people who stir up violence on social media, aren’t there a number of MPs who should be in the dock?

In 2009, some years before he became a Labour MP, Wes Streeting responded to a controversial column in the Daily Mail by tweeting, of the woman who wrote it: “There would be nothing natural about Jan Moir’s death if I shoved the bigoted old bag under a train.”

In 2022, a spokesman for Mr Streeting apologised, acknowledging that his tweet was “in bad taste”. An apology, however, would not have been enough to save those jailed in the past week for their behaviour online.

While we’re on the subject, I note that another Labour MP has apologised for a historic post in which she complained about “f—ing Estonian retards”. Was that stirring up hatred? And a third Labour MP has deleted a post which shared an unfounded claim that there’d been an acid attack on a Muslim woman in Middlesbrough. Was that spreading fake news?

To be clear: I’m not saying I think these MPs should be arrested. I’m just saying that, if we’re going to jail everyone who has ever posted something foolish, intemperate or misleading on social media in the heat of the moment, Labour will have to abandon its pledge to build 1.5 million new homes – and build 1.5 million new prisons, instead.

Worth reading in full.

Tags: Jan MoirRiotsSir Keir StarmerWes StreetingX

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transmissionofflame
transmissionofflame
1 year ago

Yeah, giving cash to “developing” countries has really worked out so well since we started doing it…all of it spent wisely and goes to the intended recipients and has the intended effect, and anyway it’s not as if we need the money here. FFS.

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Marcus Aurelius knew
Marcus Aurelius knew
1 year ago
Reply to  transmissionofflame

It’s almost as if the money is really going somewhere else, isn’t it?

All those poor Pacific islands with all those poor people in those beachfront villas about to be swallowed up by rising sea levels (ahem)

Last edited 1 year ago by Marcus Aurelius knew
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transmissionofflame
transmissionofflame
1 year ago
Reply to  Marcus Aurelius knew

These two are a bit too sanguine about how well governed “liberal democracies” are but this book has some good work on how a lot of these countries are governed, where money goes and how state level aid makes things worse not better: The Dictator’s Handbook – Wikipedia

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transmissionofflame
transmissionofflame
1 year ago
Reply to  transmissionofflame

This made me chuckle from the “Reception” section in the Wiki article

“Ed Howker of The Guardian stated that the book assumes all politicians act rationally, and that its attitude was so cynical “that it made me flinch on more than one occasion.”[1] He added that “it’s good to read the evidence” of how authoritarian governments and systems operate.[1]”

Guardian writer flinches at cynicism, thinks the mechanisms at play in “bad” countries are somehow different from those in “good” countries. Yeah, all our leaders are just so selfless, well as long as they are Labour of course.

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stewart
stewart
1 year ago
Reply to  transmissionofflame

It’s easy to be selfless with other people’s money.

Using other people’s money though to advance one’s own post politics career under the pretence that it’s to do good, that’s the stuff of real sociopaths.

We could only wish our lot of “leaders” were so transparently corrupt and self serving as those of the supposedly dodgy countries. Unfortunately, ours can hide behind the facade of the “democratic” western establishment.

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transmissionofflame
transmissionofflame
1 year ago
Reply to  stewart

Ours probably attempt less because they know they won’t so easily get away with it – at least until recently that was the case.

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TheGreenAcres
TheGreenAcres
1 year ago

Every time I think I couldn’t possibly despise this Government more, they surprise me.

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beaniebean
beaniebean
1 year ago
Reply to  TheGreenAcres

I share that view sadly!

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ebygum
ebygum
1 year ago

Oh just feck off with this crap now..the UK hasn’t got that money..it’s like saying we will give them ten squidillion……you can say it, but it doesn’t make the ‘fantasy’ money real…
I’m now coming to the opinion that the Western World will have collapsed way before any of this crap can be finalised..it’s just utter moronic nonsense…It’s no better than ‘monopoly money’….and the Ponzi scheme is coming to an end…..

Perhaps, developing countries continue burning hydrocarbons and expanding their economies they’ll be able to give money to us in the near future..it seems way more likely….

This useless Government, along with the rest of our pointless political elite might as well start talking in Swahili or bloody Klingon from now on..it wouldn’t make any less sense….and I’m not listening or buying a word of it…..

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huxleypiggles
huxleypiggles
1 year ago

Fishy decides to give even more money to foreigners and that is money this country cannot afford. I wonder why?

Obviously the tax take has to increase and that will have the inevitable result of making the people of this country poorer. The poorer people become the more their health suffers which could of course lead to higher mortality rates.

Yep, it makes perfect sense to me.

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A Y M
A Y M
1 year ago
Reply to  huxleypiggles

I wonder how much will be earmarked for digital ID technology for India…

Last edited 1 year ago by A Y M
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DevonBlueBoy
DevonBlueBoy
1 year ago
Reply to  huxleypiggles

Foreign aid was best described as the transfer of money from poor people in rich countries to rich people in poor countries

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prod_squadron
prod_squadron
1 year ago

You’ll be pleased to hear that one of the projects funded by the GCF in Tonga has identified that Tongan men don’t do enough housework. They are going to be receiving some training. I’m so glad we are pledging a billion or so, lol. I kid you not. This is the kind of crap the money is spent on:

https://www.greenclimate.fund/sites/default/files/document/gender-assessment-fp090-adb-tonga.pdf

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huxleypiggles
huxleypiggles
1 year ago
Reply to  prod_squadron

“Tongan men don’t do enough housework. They are going to be receiving some training.”

That sounds like the Trans Agenda is being ramped up. Well, well, well.

Last edited 1 year ago by huxleypiggles
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prod_squadron
prod_squadron
1 year ago
Reply to  huxleypiggles

Yes, depending on the country. The Indonesian project I looked at had a gender report but no mention of lgbt, no doubt because a Muslim country.

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Matt Dalby
Matt Dalby
1 year ago
Reply to  prod_squadron

Several years ago the UK gave over £1million from the overseas aid budget to a project in Kenya aimed at improving weather forecasts by getting meteorologists to work with traditional tribal rainmakers/witch doctors, or whatever they call themselves.
I assume the £1.6billion is coming out of our aid budget so isn’t additional government spending. Whether or not we should be spending the amount we do on aid, if the money is being spent wisely and brings real benefit to the world’s poorest/most disadvantaged people are questions that need to be asked.

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huxleypiggles
huxleypiggles
1 year ago
Reply to  Matt Dalby

As DevonBlueBoy has quoted:

Foreign aid was best described as the transfer of money from poor people in rich countries to rich people in poor countries.

That sums up foreign aid.

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DomH75
DomH75
1 year ago

So that’s about £25 of my tax money given away. I could have bought a collection of books written by a British author and manufactured in the UK for that.

I’m a Christian and I’m not supposed to hate, but these people make it very difficult for me!

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BurlingtonBertie
BurlingtonBertie
1 year ago
Reply to  DomH75

You can hate actions. Actions for which the individuals are responsible. So you can hate the harm they inflict onto others.

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DomH75
DomH75
1 year ago
Reply to  BurlingtonBertie

Yeah, the ‘Jesus loves you; everyone else thinks you’re an arsehole!’ approach! I like it!! 😀

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RTSC
RTSC
1 year ago
Reply to  DomH75

So change your personal activities to ensure you pay £25 less tax a year. I simplified my life (older than you so it was easier) and I now actively make choices to minimise the amount of tax I pay.

You should, at the very least, be able to reduce the amount of VAT you have to pay by £25 a year by making different choices: buy “used goods” instead of new; use the library etc.

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A Y M
A Y M
1 year ago

It’s a good picture of Fishy.
He looks so pleased with himself like he’s finagled another boondoggle in broad daylight and there’s nothing you dumb useless eaters can do about it.
Now he can yap on and on about Britains commitment to blah blah blah…

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RT
RT
1 year ago

I would like to think that politicians like Sunak and the majority of MP’s in parliament are simply lunatics but this is not the case. They continue to press ahead with their disastrous Net Zero policies, regardless of the harms done to the citizens of the UK, all based on an unproven hypothesis and some demonstrably inaccurate computer models. They are not ignorant of this but just like with covid refuse to listen to alternative, and very probably correct, evidence. No debate is allowed. This is not lunacy it’s just downright evil.

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huxleypiggles
huxleypiggles
1 year ago
Reply to  RT

Fishy and his mob of apprentice gangsters are not running this country they are simply enforcers for the Davos Deviants.

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soundofreason
soundofreason
1 year ago

By giving it to a UN fund they avoid the possible accusations of simply promoting UK interests abroad. Of course, the GCF won’t be spent on just any old project…

https://dailysceptic.org/2023/06/06/climate-finance-saving-the-planet-one-ice-cream-at-a-time/

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Freddy Boy
Freddy Boy
1 year ago

I thought there was a cost of living Crisis !!😂😂😂😂😂😂

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Nearhorburian
Nearhorburian
1 year ago

There’s a massive looting exercise going on in advance of the inevitable collapse of our parasitical financial system.

This is small change compared to other examples but, as they say, every little helps.

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soundofreason
soundofreason
1 year ago

Britain will commit to provide £1.6 billion ($2bn) to the UN-backed Green Climate Fund (GCF) to help developing countries cope with climate change.

From: https://dailysceptic.org/2023/09/10/households-face-2300-bills-to-decommission-gas-grid-under-net-zero-plans/

The cost of decommissioning the [UK gas] grid could reach a total of £65 billion

Many of the developing countries that get funding from the GCF would love to have a safe, reliable gas grid. Of course it makes sense for us to throw ours away and pay for the privilege!

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huxleypiggles
huxleypiggles
1 year ago

https://www.conservativewoman.co.uk/the-energy-bill-a-plague-on-all-our-ordinary-houses/

I urge people to read this, it contains much that I have been warning about on here for the last couple of years including this which details the way in which our properties will be stolen from us and any survivors condemned to rabbit hutches in 15 minute ghettos:

“as Dave Kurten suggests here, they will be offered an escape route by the nice, kind government, who will buy up their property at a knock-down price, rehouse them in inferior accommodation, and progressively bulldoze the past to make way for the stack-and-pack housing in rigorously surveilled human settlements required by Agenda 2030.”

Last edited 1 year ago by huxleypiggles
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huxleypiggles
huxleypiggles
1 year ago

https://off-guardian.org/2023/09/11/the-next-crisis-is-anyones-guess-but-the-government-is-ready-to-lockdown-the-nation/

The next crisis, and there will be one, will really tighten the noose.

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DomH75
DomH75
1 year ago
Reply to  huxleypiggles

The article misses out all the interim ’emergencies’: the banking collapse, the ash cloud being used to ground all air flights, SARS v1 being used to practice lockdowns. They were building COVID-19 units in my local hospital in January 2020 before there was any insight into how serious the virus was. The last two decades or so has been an orchestrated demolition of liberty in the free world. Whereas once people could dream of fleeing to the West to escape the tyranny of the USSR, the communications revolution has given the governments of the world the ability to spy on anyone at any time and take them out with a drone before they know it. There must be an escape – a Gult’s Gulch or equivalent somewhere…

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James Leary #KBF
James Leary #KBF
1 year ago

Same reason rich bastards support Labour. They sub-contract out their guilt and pay an indulgence so they don’t have to worry about getting on enjoying their money.

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RTSC
RTSC
1 year ago

I presume this money is going to help explain to the Pakistani Government that if they allow their population to triple in a couple of decades; let all those extra people live on flood plains and at the same time cut down all the trees, they are likely to suffer from flooding and soil erosion when they get the REGULAR heavy rains which they’ve had throughout history.

Otherwise it’s a pointless waste of money.

Well, it is anyway, but at least we would have the satisfaction of saying “told you so” the next time they get heavy floods and suffer the consequences of their own stupidity.

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Covid-1984
Covid-1984
1 year ago

To quote Thatcher: “Socialism is fine until they run out of other people’s money”

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Hester
Hester
1 year ago

I have been thinking about this. The Tories know they are sunk at the next election, possibly wiped out as a Party, are they “burning the oil fields” as they leave I wonder? Thus leaving the country destined for increasing poverty and desperation into the future from the mad laws on net zero which come into effect after they have gone, to the plagues of mental illness in young people from the state sponsored mutlilation of their bodies and minds, hence Sunak has done nothing about advice to schools, to the re infliction of the dangerous Covid injections thus damaging more of the population, and now the ever more reckless spending on projects outside of the UK, whilst the citizns of this country are further impoverished due to ever high taxes.
Think about it, they have proven themselves contemptuous of the country and its citizens, they know they are finished, so why not plant a timed device such that the incoming party can do nothing to prevent the disaster, and to turn things around will take generations.
I have zero time for any of the main Party’s, but its exactly the sort of low behaviour I have come to expect from these people.

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