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Pay-per-Mile Road Tax ‘On Treasury Agenda’ As Electric Cars Take Over

by Richard Eldred
12 August 2024 3:01 PM

Fears over dwindling fuel duty receipts have intensified calls within the Treasury for the implementation of a pay-per-mile road tax. The Telegraph has the details.

Treasury mandarins piled pressure on the last Government to start work on a pay-per-mile road tax, Jeremy Hunt’s former top adviser has said, in a sign officials could draw up similar plans for Rachel Reeves.

Adam Smith, formerly Chief of Staff under Mr. Hunt from 2022 to 2024, said senior civil servants repeatedly pushed Downing Street to “start preparatory work on a road pricing scheme” amid fears over dwindling fuel duty receipts.

He said “eager” Treasury officials endorsed the policy following a 2022 report by the Transport Committee that recommended the move.

Given the £22 billion black hole Ms. Reeves claims she faces, Mr. Smith said road pricing levies “will no doubt be back on officials’ agendas” as she seeks to repair the public finances.

Writing in the Telegraph, Mr. Smith said proposals for road pricing became an “early issue” for Mr. Hunt during his time at the Treasury after a response to the Transport Committee’s report became overdue.

He said Treasury officials warmed to the idea of a pay-per-mile road tax amid concerns that the switch to electric cars will eat into the £25 bilion a year raised in fuel duty.

Owners of EVs do not pay the tax because their cars are powered by electricity.

Combustion engine cars are also in decline as a ban on the sale of new petrol and diesel-powered cars looms. 

Labour has promised to bring forward the ban to 2030, reversing the Conservative’s decision to delay it until 2035.

To relieve pressure on the public finances, there is a growing expectation that officials will encourage Ms. Reeves to increase fuel duty for the first time in more than a decade in her maiden Budget, in a move that would raise £3 billion. …

PwC estimates the Government will lose out on £9 billion of fuel duty revenues by 2030, when one in four vehicles on the road is expected to be electric.

Mr. Hunt announced in October 2022 that electric cars, vans and motorcycles will start to pay road tax in the same way as petrol and diesel vehicles from next April. 

Worth reading in full.

Tags: Automotive IndustryElectric VehiclesHM TreasuryJeremy HuntRachel ReevesTax Rises

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Mogwai
Mogwai
1 year ago

Thank the gods for something civilized. I bet it was a lovely atmosphere and a world away from those godawful terrorist supporters.

Speaking of civilized; I don’t know about changing light bulbs but how many police officers does it take to arrest one unarmed man? Check out Tommy Robinson getting arrested for bugger all here to see. Absolutely insane ( 2mins );

https://twitter.com/visegrad24/status/1728781881771008465

Slightly longer vid here. I’m still unclear as to what he’s meant to have done. They pepper sprayed him!

https://twitter.com/RonEng1ish/status/1728769836203827577

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Jonathan M
Jonathan M
1 year ago
Reply to  Mogwai

Two-tier policing by the woke “Met”. Absolutely bloody disgraceful.
And perhaps the downvoters of your comment could have the courage to explain why they did so – but I’m not holding my breath.

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Coup detat
Coup detat
1 year ago
Reply to  Jonathan M

“courage”… More like futility……
Is it really “civilized” to be supporting genocide….
Can you see how it’s futile, having to explain that to the likes of you…

It would have been “civilised” if the 100k marched for the cessation of the killing of human beings to benefit profits for the MIC

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sskinner
sskinner
1 year ago
Reply to  Coup detat

Genocide = The deliberate killing of a large number of people from a particular nation or ethnic group with the aim of destroying that nation or group.
I know this is pointless but there may be young impressionable people reading listening to your bile. The Jews were slaughtered on an industrial scale during WW2 so that large swathes of Europe were virtually cleared of their Jewish populations. The Jewish state of Israel has been repeatedly attacked using all military equipment available to the aggressors and at no time was there any concern about the Jewish women and children, but in every case Israel prevailed. The Arab aggressors chose war and murder as a means of resolving the Jewish ‘problem’ and under those circumstance it is only possible to defend your self using warfare. The Palestinian population has only grown which is not what happens during a genocide. The walls around Gaza and the West Bank are to stop Hamas and Hezbollah attacking Israel with suicide bombings etc. Gaza is not a prison. There are no Israeli gas chambers in Gaza, or Israeli Einsatzgruppen and the Arab and Muslim Israeli population continues to grow and enjoy equal rights within Israel. Contrary to that, nearly all Jewish populations in all Muslim countries have virtually disappeared. When I hear Palestinians praising Hitler then I cannot fault the Israelis for doing everything they can to stay alive and prosper, which may include making sure there is an Israeli presence in the West Bank. The Israeli settlements are entirely Hezbollah’s fault as they have repeatedly expressed the desire to exterminate the Jews. Following Oct 7th Hamas GoPro videos started appearing on YouTube, all in Arabic and but with the faces of the murderers blurred. Fortunately Google translate helped me understand what was being said and it was pretty abominable. Here is one such response from the comments section:
“What the West does not understand is that we Muslims are not afraid of death in war, and we consider it a testimony and the reason for our entry into Paradise, and this is what made a small group of resistance destabilize a large army. Israelis, Americans, and Europeans fear death in a very, very terrifying way, and it is their nightmare. So they will find resistance waiting for them. The death of one Israeli or American soldier is considered the death of a thousand soldiers. Greetings to Palestine, the heroes from Morocco. As for us, the world is worth nothing, and the evidence is the Egyptian soldier and policeman who killed the Israelis and the soldier’s martyrdom. The evidence is that the Palestinians enter among the Israeli tanks without fear. If I had found a way to join the resistance and fight for the sake of God, I would have gone with all joy and happiness.”

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Free Lemming
Free Lemming
1 year ago
Reply to  sskinner

“and at no time was there any concern about the Jewish women and children,”

And men. They also exist. Apparently. But we don’t include them. Irrelevant of course.

Your entire argument is flawed. I honestly wouldn’t know where to start.

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sskinner
sskinner
1 year ago
Reply to  Free Lemming

Go on. Give it a go.

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Free Lemming
Free Lemming
1 year ago
Reply to  sskinner

Ok, let’s keep it as simple as possible given your rather protracted rant. First of all you could explain why you think only women and children matter. Secondly, you could explain why you think genocide cannot be committed against Arabs (or that it doesn’t matter – your rambling didn’t make that clear). And you’re explaining this to someone that thinks the entire conflict is barbaric. That what Hamas did was beyond the pale, and that the response is also beyond the pale.

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Coup detat
Coup detat
1 year ago
Reply to  sskinner

UN definition…
Convention on the Prevention and Punishment of the Crime of Genocide
Article II
In the present Convention, genocide means any of the following acts committed with intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group, as such:

  1. Killing members of the group;
  2. Causing serious bodily or mental harm to members of the group;
  3. Deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about its physical destruction in whole or in part;
  4. Imposing measures intended to prevent births within the group;
  5. Forcibly transferring children of the group to another group.

Ps, you’ve believed some nonsense, you really have..

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Mathison
Mathison
1 year ago
Reply to  Coup detat

They won’t like that here at the DS. They’re too daft to understand that those in Gaza are Semites. Just the wrong kind of Semite you understand. So march against insulting Semites in the UK, but bomb them in Gaza.

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varmint
varmint
1 year ago
Reply to  sskinner

Thanks for that—–We import hate and bile to the western world and then the politicians and media try to make sure we cannot say a word about these extremists and their disgusting practices. They are so determined to pander to globalist politics that wants to create multicultural diversity because the goal is one world government they are prepared to turn a blind eye to this culture that keeps women as the property of men, mutilates them when they are girls, stops them from driving or going anywhere without men, and even stones them to death for being raped because they don’t have four witnesses. ——-Then for pointing any of that out it is you that gets into trouble not them.

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Coup detat
Coup detat
1 year ago
Reply to  varmint

Oh dear.. The globalist narrative, which you’ve fallen for is set by the same people that you are supporting and defending, your belief in this is proof of their control and manipulation, and in your naive belief, YOU have become the one who is pandering to globalist policies as were the 100k that took place and marched at the weekend.
The whole picture has been spun on its head, like most of history, all to suit the forced narrative which you’ve swallowed hook line and sinker.

“You know very well, and the stupid Americans know equally well, that we control their government, irrespective of who sits in the White House. You see, I know it and you know it that no American president can be in a position to challenge us even if we do the unthinkable. What can they (Americans) do to us? We control congress, we control the media, we control show biz, and we control everything in America. In America you can criticize God, but you can’t criticize Israel…” Israeli spokeswoman, Tzipora Menache

I suggest you dig into where this mass immigration concept originated …. I’ll point you in the right direction… Its by the same people who you are supporting…

https://petition.parliament.uk/archived/petitions/188604

If only you knew how naive you are …

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varmint
varmint
1 year ago
Reply to  Coup detat

The good thing about the Daily Sceptic is that there are different points of view that appear here, unlike other platforms. Even nonsense by people like you can appear here. Nonsense that said nothing about the main part of my comment that spoke to the importing of millions of people from cultures that are incompatible with western democracy. A culture that treats women as a man’s belongings. A culture that will stone women to death for having the audacity to be raped. A culture that will not allow women to work or drive. A culture that wants to bring it’s own medieval legal system with it and have it run parallel to ours, where women will end up as slaves unable to divorce their husbands. A culture that will mutilate women so they cannot enjoy a normal healthy sex life when they are adults. Then ofcourse the criminalising of gay people etc. ————–Yet you call me “naive”——ha ha ah jeez. You probably still don’t realise how absurd you really are.

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Coup detat
Coup detat
1 year ago
Reply to  varmint

Yep absurb is exactly what they want you to think I am..
I can only assume you think I’m being “absurb” when I state there where 67.5 million Christian gentiles murdered in post Bolshevik Russia… But we can’t ever talk about that can we, only about Hitler and the 6 million (2 million actually but that’s neither here nor there in comparison to 67.5 miliion) Jews that perished in the “Holocaust”

We need to be carful what history we believe….
You certainly are naive if you don’t know the ideologies and who exactly the Bolsheviks were.

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varmint
varmint
1 year ago
Reply to  Coup detat

Yep humans do bad things. How many millions did Mao kill? 60 million was it? Or thereabouts. But hey you go and “believe” whatever you want. ————I don’t want sectarian clutter brought to the west, but it is already too late for that as the horse has bolted and the barbarian hordes flood in on a daily basis. ——–With the full permission of that “cabal” you keep going on about, while at the same time they stand in front of podiums with “Stop the Boats” on it.

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Coup detat
Coup detat
1 year ago
Reply to  varmint

Who were the Bolsheviks varmint?

I’ll answer… The same people who want mass immigration in europe because it serves their purpose..
Have you looked up Kalergi Plan yet..

Back to work for me… I’ll pop back later to see if you can bring yourself to answer the first, paramount, relative to what’s going on in the world question

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Coup detat
Coup detat
1 year ago
Reply to  varmint

You’ve not answered?
Who were the Bolsheviks?

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varmint
varmint
1 year ago
Reply to  Coup detat

“You’ve not answered”????? ——You must think I sit all day with my laptop on my knee waiting for questions from very important people like you, and if I don’t reply immediately you will get yourself into a tizzy. ———–Let me just get one thing straight. —— I will decide when and if I answer your nonsense. You remind me of these people who think men never landed on the moon and are so convinced that everyone is an idiot for thinking we did land on the moon. ——Or as someone once pointed out “Fools and fanatics are always so sure of themselves”—-Don’t you realise you are a fool and a fanatic?

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Coup detat
Coup detat
1 year ago
Reply to  varmint

You can’t answer, and I know why you can’t answer.

You can’t answer nor can Bartleby because it’s not something we talk about, it’s not something we are permitted to talk about, it’s not something thats in the history books, yet 67.5 million (the estimates go as far as possibly 200 million ) of us Gentiles were murdered between 1917 and 1950s here in Europe, not Asia as you mentioned Mao.
This occurred here in Europe, yet have you ever seen a memorial to these lost millions?. No you certainly have not, but I’m sure you’ve seen the many many memorials to the 6 million (2.5 actually) Jews lost to the Nazis during the Holocaust.

“Absurb”. Yes it certainly is Varmint… And you still haven’t answered who carried out this genocide and more importantly why..

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varmint
varmint
1 year ago
Reply to  Coup detat

Tell me who does not permit you to talk? Answer the question immediately, like you expect me to do —–Take a look at the title of this article. It is about a march against anti semitism is it not? You said you are not an anti semite in a previous comment. But you are trying to call this march invalid and not important because there have been worse atrocities elsewhere in the world in the past. That sounds very much like anti semitism to me.

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varmint
varmint
1 year ago
Reply to  Coup detat

“yes absurd is exactly what they want you to think I am”——–ha ha ha ah —-Who is “they”? ——–Are you also scared of your own shadow? –You never specify who “they” are but apparently they are all out to get you and want you to think all manner of things and trick you. —-How about some names? Who are “THEY?. —-And who says we cannot talk about people being murdered in vast numbers and only talk about Nazi’s killing Jews? What is stopping you from talking about it? You just spoke about it on here did you not?

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Mathison
Mathison
1 year ago
Reply to  varmint

Those who want everyone to think like them are called narcissists.

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Bartleby
Bartleby
1 year ago
Reply to  Coup detat

This reads like propaganda straight from the book of jew hating. Tzipora Menache quotes and all. I’m pretty sure that the quote and it’s control narrative has been completely debunked. Don’t get me wrong, you’re perfectly at liberty to write crap on the internet, you’re even at liberty to claim it has some merit and truth, even when you go as far as trying to argue about the numbers in the holocaust, but the vast majority of the rest of us are also at liberty to think you a disgraceful moron and judge you accordingly.

That’s the impact of you writing what you’ve written here, your commentary will be disregarded because you have no opinion worth listening to. That is why free speech matters, because sometimes you have to work out who the dangerous morons are.

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Coup detat
Coup detat
1 year ago
Reply to  Bartleby

Perhaps you can answer the question then..

Who were the Bolsheviks?????

“a disgraceful moron”….. There you go…… You’ve all been had.. Oh I know who’s dangerous in the world…

Answer the question, we can go from there..

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Coup detat
Coup detat
1 year ago
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Answer the question Bartleby

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Bartleby
Bartleby
1 year ago
Reply to  Coup detat

No. You have only very easily debunked and jew-hating conspiracy theories to spout. I’m well aware of the antisemitic claims that jews took over the Russian revolution – Goebbels made it part of his speech at the Nuremberg Rally in 1935. Other Nazis also claimed the same and are still doing so today, as we can see. There’s no engagement for that kind of lunacy and I’m answering purely that someone who wasn’t aware of this as an anti-jewish conspiracy theory has some context as to the motivation behind your postings.

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Coup detat
Coup detat
1 year ago
Reply to  Bartleby

“jews took over the Russian Revolution”
I was correct you don’t know.. The Bolsheviks WERE Jews.
Ashkenazi Jews..
Who were responsible for the murders of possibly 200 million of us Gentiles.

Wake up you utter moron, because once you do that, if your capable which many arnt, you’ll start to see the hidden history and how it follows on, how the whole narrative that you’ve swallowed is controlled..

Is there a single “memorial” to the lost millions of gentiles?
No, but there’s one in every city to the lost 6 million Jews.
And you’ve never considered why, yet another pseudo intellectual on the DS 🤦‍♂️

Moron 100% narrative swallowing moron..

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Coup detat
Coup detat
1 year ago
Reply to  Bartleby

See if you can “debunk” this…

Not a chance…. Factual politcal corruption and Zionist control over the bristish establishment.
Fact not “antisemitism” 🤦‍♂️

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Mathison
Mathison
1 year ago
Reply to  varmint

Oh let’s here it for British values – bombing the bejeezus out of Arab countries for as long as we like. We’re so coooool. I suggest you read the Torah. Not much different from the Qu’ran. Hey, but it’s okay to be a bigot.

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Smudger
Smudger
1 year ago
Reply to  sskinner

David Ben Gurion set out the ZI*ni*t agenda pretty clearly. Curiously, the indigenous Js who lived relatively peacefully with the Arabs of the Levant told Balfour exactly what would be unleashed if a state of I*rael was created. They didn’t want a Jewi*sh state and lots of ultra orthodox Js still don’t recognise the state.
If I were an Arab leader, I would never sign an agreement with Israel. It is normal; we have taken their country. It is true God promised it to us, but how could that interest them? Our God is not theirs. There has been Anti-Semitism, the Nazis, Hitler, Auschwitz, but was that their fault? They see but one thing: we have come and we have stolen their country. Why would they accept that?”
David Ben-Gurion (the first Israeli Prime Minister): Quoted by Nahum Goldmann in Le Paraddoxe Juif (The Jewish Paradox), pp121.
“Let us not ignore the truth among ourselves … politically we are the aggressors and they defend themselves… The country is theirs, because they inhabit it, whereas we want to come here and settle down, and in their view we want to take away from them their country. … Behind the terrorism [by the Arabs] is a movement, which though primitive is not devoid of idealism and self sacrifice.”
— David Ben Gurion. Quoted on pp 91-2 of Chomsky’s Fateful Triangle, which appears in Simha Flapan’s “Zionism and the Palestinians pp 141-2 citing a 1938 speech.
“We must do everything to insure they (the Palestinians) never do return.”
David Ben-Gurion, in his diary, 18 July 1948, quoted in Michael Bar Zohar’s Ben-Gurion: the Armed Prophet, Prentice-Hall, 1967, p. 157.
Ben Gurion also warned in 1948: Assuring his fellow Zionists that Palestinians will never come back to their homes: “The old will die and the young will forget.”

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Mathison
Mathison
1 year ago
Reply to  sskinner

It’s called the Occupied Territories for a reason. And stop playing the WWII card – you’re just fanning the flames like a good little Sayanim. Just following orders hasn’t aged well.

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RTSC
RTSC
1 year ago
Reply to  Coup detat

What genocide? The Israeli Defence Force has done as much as could possibly be expected to protect civilians following the Palestinian atrocities. It’s Hamas which uses them as human shields.

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Mathison
Mathison
1 year ago
Reply to  RTSC

Have they RTSC? You sure about that? Driving 1M Semites (you don’t feel any pity towards the Arab Semites I notice who actually have ancient Hebrew DNA, whereas the Ashkenazis have zero) is ‘protecting civilians’ is it? Removing food, water, electricity…’protecting civilians’? The nice lads of the IDF have their jackboots on the ground and have ethnically cleansed northern Gaza, raising up their flags which have no meaning. This is murder and expansionism. They’re not called the Occupied Territories cos it’s a catchy title.

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Sforzesca
Sforzesca
1 year ago
Reply to  RTSC

Love the irony.
I expect you think the USA does the same, eg Mosul.
Not to menton everywhere else they democratise with the barrel of a gun…

How long did kids last in Gaza.
Have you a limit as to how many kids die in this genocide before you actually wake up?
Maybe just wipe them all out – like some on here actually want.
Jesus.

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Sforzesca
Sforzesca
1 year ago
Reply to  Jonathan M

Easy.
See my comment above.
Moral mental gymnastics abound on here.
How do you possibly condone the killing of thousands of children and women?
And to achieve exactly what?

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Mogwai
Mogwai
1 year ago
Reply to  Jonathan M

Yes it certainly is. Here’s another 5min clip of the police speaking to him beforehand and warning him that he’ll be arrested if he stays. They seem to be construing his mere presence with causing distress! Erm, evidence before arrest perhaps?? Jeez…Bizarre, especially considering Tommy is very much anti-Islam and firmly stands in solidarity with the Jewish community. This has got ”Khant” written all over it hasn’t it?

https://twitter.com/RonEng1ish/status/1728751515786166730

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Mathison
Mathison
1 year ago
Reply to  Mogwai

Or Kant even.

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Mathison
Mathison
1 year ago
Reply to  Jonathan M

Oh please do.

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Coup detat
Coup detat
1 year ago
Reply to  Mathison

😂

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john ball
john ball
1 year ago
Reply to  Mogwai

Yes it was an amazing civilised and lovely atmosphere. We have now been on marches since 2021 and this was the equal of all those opposing lockdowns etc. Like those the official estimate of 105,000 is on the low side. It was apparent that this was something special already at our underground station when a lady spoke to me on the escalator. She was with a big group and when I asked how she knew where we were going too she said I could sense the sense of purpose. Already at Holborn, Kingsway was full with people going to the march and half an hour beforehand we were in the crowd diverted to Chancery Lane quite a way from the start round the corner by the Law Courts. Lots of Israeli flags etc. but clear a very high proportion were not Jewish.

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David
David
1 year ago
Reply to  Mogwai

I was there and am very pleased I went. It was indeed a great atmosphere. No hate, no one disrespecting memorials etc. Come the revolution I know which side I want to be on.

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Coup detat
Coup detat
1 year ago
Reply to  David

Interesting, what side exactly will that be then David?

Because you’ve just complied to global/state propaganda……

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Dinger64
Dinger64
1 year ago
Reply to  Coup detat

I’m sure the Guardian chat forum would be a far better place for you! They’ll love the fact you stand with an excepted terrorist organisation along with Greta thunberg and her pals! Better still, Gaza might be the place for you, Go and protest there! I cannot stand all these idiots that will only protest from the safety of a mild Western country!

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Coup detat
Coup detat
1 year ago
Reply to  Dinger64

It’s clear that you also do not understand

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Coup detat
1 year ago
Reply to  Coup detat

I do not want any more immigration in to the UK, I’ve disagreed with importing the 3rd world for many years, but I’m not racist.
I don’t agree how the Zionists are controlling global narratives but I’m not anti-Semitic.
I refuse to conflate what they want me to conflate, as iam aware of how and why the cabal do what they do and we need to be very careful on what we support, it’s not always what you think it is..

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varmint
varmint
1 year ago
Reply to  Coup detat

Saying “you do not understand” or “you have no idea what you are talking about” is NOT an argument. It is like those climate alarmists who call everyone a “denier” who questions their phony climate models masquerading as science, and all it does is reveal that your argument is very weak. Name calling mostly comes from infantile individuals who can only stamp their feet and spit blood from their eyes at the thought of anyone not having their particular world view.

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Mathison
Mathison
1 year ago
Reply to  varmint

You just described yourself.

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Mathison
Mathison
1 year ago
Reply to  Dinger64

With every occupation, there will be a resistance. I bet you liked Mandela eh? Hypocrite?

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Mogwai
Mogwai
1 year ago
Reply to  David

That’s really great to hear, David and john. Appreciate you coming by and letting us know from personal experience. The one I happened upon in Amsterdam had that sort of vibe, much like the anti-lockdown ones, where the sense of being amongst a large number of kindred spirits, the feeling of solidarity that brings, was just everything. I’m not even a Jew and that’s the feeling I picked up on. This one in London was way bigger though so it must have been an awesome experience.

What I will draw people’s attention to is this really warped tweet from Varadkar over in Ireland, regarding the return of one of the child hostages. I think it’s clear to see he’s never going to be calling out Hamas and their atrocities. He barely called out and condemned what happened in Dublin recently as he spent way more time banging on about the ”far right” people kicking off. Yet another terrorist apologist;

https://twitter.com/DrEliDavid/status/1728690835217084663

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Dinger64
Dinger64
1 year ago
Reply to  David

Well said sir/madam 👏

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Mathison
Mathison
1 year ago
Reply to  David

You don’t even realise which side you’re on now. You march with the Sayanim. Many Jews, terrified by the biased ‘hate mob’, ‘militarised’ city nonsense from the likes of Pearson make it way worse for Jewish people living in London. Many Jewish people and Jewish organisations marched on Saturday – the ones who genuinely care about Semites (be they in Israel or Gaza). Those who don’t believe in division.

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Dinger64
Dinger64
1 year ago
Reply to  Mogwai

The British police are a F£@#ng disgrace!
I’m British through and through but I no longer see them with any semblance of respect, its gone, state controlled thugs! They represent the enemy!

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varmint
varmint
1 year ago
Reply to  Dinger64

Swear at a Christian —-NOTHING. Swear at a Hindu——-NOTHING. Swear at a Jew——–NOTHING. ————Swear at a Muslim and your feet won’t touch the ground. ———–Very curious this Social Justice nonsense isn’t it?

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Coup detat
Coup detat
1 year ago
Reply to  varmint

Hilarious, you obviously arnt aware of the laws surrounding “antisemitism”.
Delusional…

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varmint
1 year ago
Reply to  Coup detat

Yep ——I am aware of the law. I am also aware that it is not applied equally. But then Social Justice acts in mysterious ways doesn’t it? I think you should probably keep your TV License as you are going to need to keep viewing the BBC and SKY NEWS to formulate your silly world view. You are like a hammer that sees everything as a nail. Are you aware that Madrassas in this country are not regulated? All other schools are, but they are not, and only under cover operations have revealed what is going on in them. You harp on about “laws against antisemitism” as if that indicates that all religions are treated the same and cannot be discriminated against. Are you joking? The people making the laws are the same ones that form this mysterious “cabal” you rant on about. But there is one very big difference in all of this.——–Islam is not just a religion. It is also a political system and it’s creep into the west erodes democracy. This is true regardless of your personal opinion of western democracy. I guarantee that you would prefer to live in the western world where you are free to voice your opinions rather than in places where you cannot voice them and that is why immigrants flee from those places. The sad thing is they want to bring the tyranny they flee from with them. We are opening our borders to people who hate free speech and the rights of women and minorities and you are pandering to the very “cabal” that is allowing that to occur and calls us all racists if we don’t want it.

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Coup detat
Coup detat
1 year ago
Reply to  varmint

Answer the question please

I honestly don’t think you can can you

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varmint
varmint
1 year ago
Reply to  Coup detat

You are creating your own silly little narrative and then expecting us all to answer that and if we choose not to indulge your silly narrative that there were more important people killed in the past than Jews then we have all failed your silly little test. ——-mmmmm. A severe dose of self importance that sees everything through one particular prism. You are simply a posturing snob with your smug self satisfied morality that is above all others. ——–Oh and by the way —–Who is “THEY”? ———Those mysterious mystical distorters of history that prevent you from discussing anything? ——-You are discussing it right here on the Daily Sceptic are you not? No one is stopping you.

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Smudger
Smudger
1 year ago
Reply to  varmint

Don’t think that’s quite right- you can only swear at a white Christian.

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Mathison
Mathison
1 year ago
Reply to  Mogwai

Sunday: 100,000 march against being insulted. Saturday: 300,000 march against being bombed – also Semites BTW. Get a grip son.

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huxleypiggles
huxleypiggles
1 year ago

Boris Johnson intimating that genocide is wrong is unbelievably two-faced given that in March 2020 he bowed to the dictates of the Davos Deviants and went along with the C1984 program while knowing full well that it would lead to the near mandated injections saga and the maiming and killing of thousands of his countrymen.

Bozo was also instrumental in knobbling an attempted cease fire between Ukraine and Russia thus ensuring the slaughter of thousands more.

I doubt Bozo cares less how many die in the Israel / Gaza conflagration so his presence on this march rings alarm bells. At the very least he could have stayed clear.

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FerdIII
FerdIII
1 year ago
Reply to  huxleypiggles

As an unvaxxed I made a yellow star with ‘Unstabbed’ across it for my clothes – much to the howl of Jews.
The unstabbed were the new Jews.
The main difference is that we were not gassed. But I am sure those plans were not far off pace Hunt, Doris, SAGE and ‘the science’ not to mention Leftards, Vaxxtards and Ronatards.

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Smudger
Smudger
1 year ago
Reply to  huxleypiggles

It wouldn’t surprise me in the least if he was paid to appear at the march? This man is the scum of the earth. You can take the man out of the gutter but you can’t take the gutter out of this man.

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NeilofWatford
NeilofWatford
1 year ago

Wonderful.
Simply wonderful.

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Sforzesca
Sforzesca
1 year ago

Not a bad turnout for supporting a genocide of around 5,000 kids. Well done.. Gaza has become a graveyard for children.
Still, there’s a long way to go.

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sskinner
sskinner
1 year ago
Reply to  Sforzesca

So Hamas is believed when they claim 5,000, a very neat and large number, while Israel is scrutinized and disbelieved for anything they say and even when they show video footage? The fact that the bias is so blatant is a massive ‘tell’ will be lost on the ideologically possessed.

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Coup detat
Coup detat
1 year ago
Reply to  sskinner

“The fact that the bias is so blatant is a massive ‘tell’ will be lost on the ideologically possessed”

Wow, your naivety and lack of historical context,( middle eastern affairs didn’t start on the 7th you know) is astonishing.

In regards to your above statement….. Zionists control the narrative.

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sskinner
sskinner
1 year ago
Reply to  Coup detat

There you go again. You can’t help yourself. And for the record I control my own narrative. I’m also not paid by Big Oil or any other big…
Have you heard of the Solomon Asch Conformity and Milgram experiments? What about Bonhoeffer’s Theory of Stupidity?

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varmint
varmint
1 year ago
Reply to  sskinner

Don’t worry———–At least on this platform you are able to put your point of view (which you put very well) and for being able to do that you also have to put up with people who don’t agree with you.

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Mathison
Mathison
1 year ago
Reply to  sskinner

Cut ‘n’ paste does not equate to intelligence. Just ask the IDF.

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Mathison
Mathison
1 year ago
Reply to  sskinner

You haven’t seen the video footage – they only show that to journos who are too daft to join the dots. You really think a ‘terrorist’ needs a memo which reads ‘kill as many as you like’ – in case he broke in and thought he’d just come for a pint of milk? The testimonies of 124 of the kids at Nova festival give up some interesting ‘secrets’ – they clearly haven’t yet been checked by the Sayanim.

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NeilParkin
NeilParkin
1 year ago
Reply to  Sforzesca

Does that include the 500 killed when a dud rocket fell into a hospital car park..?

The IDF have moved very carefully against Hamas fighters, trying to clear the non-combatants, something Hamas didn’t do when they tortured and killed hundreds of women and children on 07/11. Did they not deserve your protest too.? Now they use their own people as human shields. What about them..?

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Mathison
Mathison
1 year ago
Reply to  NeilParkin

Many at Nova were killed by helicopter fire and Israeli Police (albeit in the fight) – if you check out the 124 Nova festival witness testimonies and phone footage you’ll get a surprise. One group was told to ‘keep your hands in the air at all times otherwise you might get shot by mistake’ – how many festival goers were given the same info? Wake up sonny, the world is not that simple.

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FerdIII
FerdIII
1 year ago
Reply to  Sforzesca

Muslim Jihad supporter and troll.
Muslim terrorists who have all the territory they need in Jordan, have spent 75 years attacking a sliver of a state housing mostly Jews.
Many of them are Nazis, reading and agreeing with Mein Kampf.
And you temperate and relativise.
Pathetic.
Wipe the whole lot out is what I would do.

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Nearhorburian
Nearhorburian
1 year ago

How many of those attending were members of the indigenous population of this archipelago?

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DHJ
DHJ
1 year ago

“The poll of 3,744 British Jews taken between November 12th and 17th also revealed almost half had considered leaving the U.K. due to antisemitism since the October 7th Hamas attacks in Israel.”

How many have actually left or is this the same empty comment as people saying they would leave after Brexit?

If they do leave, where would they go given the reports of a supposed rise in anti-semitism in multiple countries? Heading to Israel might please those looking to strengthen the State with the return of the diaspora but would that not require more land to be taken?

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Nearhorburian
Nearhorburian
1 year ago
Reply to  DHJ

Noo Joysey.

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Coup detat
Coup detat
1 year ago

100k cattle of humanity, blindly, unquestioningly mooing along to the latest narrative…

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sskinner
sskinner
1 year ago
Reply to  Coup detat

Beginning with several ad hominems is definitely going to win the argument, except it’s not about winning an argument is it, as it’s just about prevailing? You are in good company:

“It is not truth that matters, but victory” – A. H.

“To speak the truth is a petit-bourgeois habit, a luxury of worry-free and aimless people. To lie, on the contrary, is often justified by the lie’s aim” – Lenin

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Coup detat
Coup detat
1 year ago
Reply to  sskinner

Who says I’m trying to “win the argument”?

Did you not read one of my posts ie Futility…

There is no argument to be had….. We are past the point of no return….society has been asleep at the wheel.

Its game over…..

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varmint
varmint
1 year ago
Reply to  Coup detat

ha ha ha “game over”———–You can admit defeat if you want. Why don’t you go and sit in a dark room somewhere with some sack cloth on and self flagellate.

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Coup detat
Coup detat
1 year ago
Reply to  varmint

You miss understood.. Its game over because you have been asleep, we are past the point of no return, global control is complete, because you have believed their narrative.

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Mathison
Mathison
1 year ago
Reply to  Coup detat

Global control is not complete. 7.8BN of us, 20,000 of them.

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sskinner
sskinner
1 year ago
Reply to  Mathison

Who are the 20,000? 70,000 are off to the COP28 jamboree so most of those must be useful idiots?

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varmint
varmint
1 year ago
Reply to  Coup detat

Your comments are mostly infantile. So what narrative is it that you moo along to? You are part of humanity are you not? Or is it the case as I suspect that you just sit there in your little castle on top of the moral high ground and look down upon all of humanity who “don’t know what they are talking about”

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Coup detat
Coup detat
1 year ago
Reply to  varmint

Mooo moo

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varmint
varmint
1 year ago
Reply to  Coup detat

Perhaps you should go back to reading the Dandy or the Beano, maybe you were happier back then before you turned into a brainwashed dreamer who has slipped into a massive depression about the world all being controlled by cabals of people who you NEVER name.

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Nearhorburian
Nearhorburian
1 year ago

I try to approach this issue – Israel/Palestine, not the marches – by asking 2 questions.

What is the truth?

What are the interests of my people?

The answers to both are why I side with the indigenous people of the area between the Jordan and the Med rather than the recent invaders.

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Marque1
Marque1
1 year ago
Reply to  Nearhorburian

The ignorance in this one is palpable.

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Nearhorburian
Nearhorburian
1 year ago
Reply to  Marque1

OK: I’ll make some statements and you can explain exactly how I’m ignorant.

Statement 1: the current Jewish population of Israel overwhelmingly consists of or is descended from people who arrived during the last 100 years.

Statement 2: the Ashkenazi Jews had lived in Europe for 2,000 years before the creation of the modern state of Israel and on average are of 60% European ancestry. Simon Schama: much more. Jeff Goldblum: much less.

Statement 3: If Israel succeeds in ethnically cleansing the Palestinians we can expect huge numbers to be resettled in the UK.

Statement 4: Israel was founded using both terrorism and ethnic cleansing and they actually elected a terrorist, Menachem Begin, as their PM.

Statement 5: the recent Hamas incursion was, at the very least, allowed to happen by the Israeli government. Most of the people killed by Hamas were members of the security forces. Most civilians were killed by the IDF, many deliberately.

Statement 6: children killed by IDF shells, bombs and missiles do not have unmarked bodies or smiles on their faces.

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sskinner
sskinner
1 year ago
Reply to  Nearhorburian

I think you have explained your own ignorance, and malevolence.

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Nearhorburian
Nearhorburian
1 year ago
Reply to  sskinner

The kind of laughable, feeble response I’ve come to expect from defenders of Israel.

What have I got wrong? Let’s make it easy: just deal with my first statement.

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sskinner
sskinner
1 year ago
Reply to  Nearhorburian

“When the debate is over, slander becomes the tool of the loser.” – Socrates

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Nearhorburian
Nearhorburian
1 year ago
Reply to  sskinner

If you can’t respond to my statements using evidence and reason you’re the loser.

And if you can’t respond, the debate isn’t over, you’re just refusing to take part.

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Mogwai
Mogwai
1 year ago
Reply to  sskinner

Spot on sskinner 👍 There’s several unpleasant posters on here i just blank now. Zero tolerance for toxic individuals who’ve demonstrably got an inability to debate or have a disagreement with somebody and remain civil. Certain articles trigger them, as I’m sure you’re all too aware.
It’s like Mordor spewed its ring and there’s been a breach in the barrier. The Orcs have infiltrated our Sceptical land! 👹 😆

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Nearhorburian
Nearhorburian
1 year ago
Reply to  Mogwai

sskinner clearly isn’t intellectually up to the job of arguing with my statements.

Perhaps you’d like to have a go?

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Coup detat
Coup detat
1 year ago
Reply to  Mogwai

Beyond irony…. You Mogwai own the nastiest mindset on here..
Nasty

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Mathison
Mathison
1 year ago
Reply to  Mogwai

Oh dear, more racism.

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Mathison
Mathison
1 year ago
Reply to  Nearhorburian

No Gazans will be resettled here. They don’t want to leave, to be ethnically cleansed yet again. Genuine Semites with ancient Hebrew DNA (ie not most of Israel, but most of Palestine) will unify and the Sayanim and Ashkenazis will be done.

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john ball
john ball
1 year ago
Reply to  Nearhorburian

Just one fact the Arab population of that area increased 5 fold after 1910 after the new Jewish settlers really slaved away clearing the malarial swamps and the barren soil. Prince Faisal is on record saying how beneficial Jewish settlement was and was all in favour of it so long as also the promises of the British that he would become king of a greater Syria were kept. The Sykes Picot agreement between the British and French however had given Syria to the French who threw him out, so the British made him king of Iraq

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sskinner
sskinner
1 year ago
Reply to  Nearhorburian

Who built the Temple that sits under the Al Aqsa Mosque? And how much respect did Islam show by building over someone else’s sacred ground? What are the rules here or can Israel only defend itself by having it’s hands tied behind it’s back, and even then fighting back from that position is not allowed?

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Mathison
Mathison
1 year ago
Reply to  sskinner

It’s an occupying power. You seem to forget that. Go back to the 1967 borders and stop stealing land. Which is what Israel is still doing as they murder Semites. That’s okay with you cos they’re the wrong colour Semite, right SSkinner?

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GlassHalfFull
GlassHalfFull
1 year ago

How many on the march condone the actions of the Israeli government in their mass slaughter of Palestinian civilians mostly women and children since October 7th?

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thelightcavalry
thelightcavalry
1 year ago

Who were the march organizers who connived with the police against Tommy Robinson?

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EppingBlogger
EppingBlogger
1 year ago

I wish I could have been there. In truth I could have tried harder.

I support them.

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Coup detat
Coup detat
1 year ago
Reply to  EppingBlogger

Who do you support, what is it you support exactly?

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sskinner
sskinner
1 year ago
Reply to  Coup detat

Life

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Coup detat
Coup detat
1 year ago
Reply to  sskinner

I wasn’t asking you…

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Mathison
Mathison
1 year ago
Reply to  sskinner

Just not in Gaza.

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sskinner
sskinner
1 year ago
Reply to  Mathison

Really? Why not?

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Coup detat
Coup detat
1 year ago

How sick is this world, when calling for a cessation and deaths of civilians is frowned upon.. How sick you all are.. Sick through state Induced propaganda.

https://www.youtube.com/live/mzENFs08T_Y?si=mMNTpBfdDgMWTHnQ

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sskinner
sskinner
1 year ago
Reply to  Coup detat

The defeat of Nazi Germany and Imperial Japan depended on total war, such was the threat to civilization. Both Nazi Germany and Imperial Japan were relentlessly fanatical and were only defeated by being overwhelmingly and physically beaten. WW2 was a fight to the death.

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Nearhorburian
Nearhorburian
1 year ago
Reply to  sskinner

If Britain and France hadn’t made their cretinous commitment to Poland the likelihood has to be that Poland would have done a deal with Germany about Danzig.

No WW2.

The UK, France and The Netherlands would then have been in a much better position to fight the Japanese, assuming they’d still have gone ahead with Pearl Harbour and their invasions of SE Asia..

Our ally the Soviet Union was a much greater threat to European Christian civilisation than were either Germany or Japan

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varmint
varmint
1 year ago
Reply to  Coup detat

ha ha haa —-Why don’t you try comedy for a living? Because you are really very funny. —————Or at least you would be funny if you were not so pathetic.

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Coup detat
Coup detat
1 year ago
Reply to  varmint

Grow up you plonker… You’ve clearly lost it… Well tbh I don’t think you have had it

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varmint
varmint
1 year ago
Reply to  Coup detat

Who is “THEY”? ———–Oh yikes I thought I just saw some of them come up my street to silence me from talking about “bolsheviks”, but thank god it was only the bin men. ———Maybe I should just relax and realise “THEY” are not coming after me after all. ———-You should probably do the same, but maybe it will require some therapy before you get to that point

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Nearhorburian
Nearhorburian
1 year ago

Sky News say 60,000.

So it was probably 40,000.

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Freddy Boy
Freddy Boy
1 year ago

Tommy Robinson pepper sprayed roughed up by Khants gestapo & dragged away ! My piss has boiled over ! Will we ever see some retribution against the regime !! Chunts !!…..

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varmint
varmint
1 year ago
Reply to  Freddy Boy

In Sweeden you can be arrested for questioning immigration policy or pointing out the high rates of sex crimes committed by immigrants. ——–The UK is heading down the same road. How utterly pathetic that we pander to this multi cultural cesspit politics in this way. ————-EQUAL JUSTICE for ALL

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DrDan
DrDan
1 year ago

Wonderful to see

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Bettina
Bettina
1 year ago

Nice to see the Union Jacks!

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varmint
varmint
1 year ago
Reply to  Bettina

The left prefer the EU flag. ——–The same EU that let in all the migrant clutter

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RTSC
RTSC
1 year ago

I wish I could have been there.

The British Jewish community is tiny in comparison to the Muslim one and they are being deliberately intimidated and threatened by the terrorist-supporting/appeasing hordes which are taking over London every week ….. with the connivance of Khan and the MET.

Remember Pastor Niemoller’s poem: defend the Jews, or one day there may be no-one to defend you.

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Epi
Epi
1 year ago

It’s follow the money time folks.

https://www.bitchute.com/video/OHjhMVfq9fDu/

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GlassHalfFull
GlassHalfFull
1 year ago

“Jews for Justice for Palestinians executive member Richard Kuper told the Morning Star: “We support those who will be attending out of a genuine concern for anti-semitism. But this march is not a march against anti-semitism.”
He said the charity that organised the march, Campaign Against Anti-semitism (CAA), “has unceasingly demonised the marches of protest against Israel’s genocidal attack on Gaza.
“Its march today is in effect a march against Palestinian freedom, using Jewish safety as the pretext,” he added.”
https://morningstaronline.co.uk/article/b/pro-palestinian-jews-denounce-march-against-antisemitism

“It saw tens of thousands march in what has been called the biggest mobilisation of the Jewish community since the Battle of Cable Street in 1936.
Politically it looked nothing like that heroic chapter in the East End’s history. Cable Street was unambiguously of the left, organised by communist and socialist Jews. It was anti-Establishment, taking on a police-sanctioned march by Oswald Mosley’s Blackshirts, and in defiance of the Board of Deputies of British Jews, which advised Jewish people to stay at home.
That was obviously not the case today, on a march attended by Boris Johnson.
The charity that organised it, the Campaign Against Anti-semitism, rose to prominence as one of the most virulent opponents of Jeremy Corbyn’s socialist leadership of the Labour Party, and was criticised at the time for platforming racist voices so long as they were directed against him.
That said, the campaign clearly rejected race-baiting rabble-rouser Tommy Robinson’s attempt to associate himself with today’s demo.”
https://morningstaronline.co.uk/article/e/londons-march-against-anti-semitism-poses-difficult-questions-left

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