A plethora of on-message communicators, embedded in governments and global organisations, are engaged in disseminating messages to the masses urging us all to change our behaviours so as to save the world from purported existential threats. Near the top of the pyramid of these influencers are behavioural scientists, with the U.K. hosting many such ‘nudgers’ skilled in the art of persuading the populace to comply with diktats to ‘save’ the planet from a looming viral or climate apocalypse. But do these various mouthpieces promoting globalist agendas ever pause to question the legitimacy their goals? Recent evidence would suggest not.
We were only following orders, m’lud
Professional communicators know that human beings are more amenable to persuasion if the messenger is a trusted source. White-coated ‘doctors’ in the infamous Milgram experiments in the early 1960s represent a stark example of this phenomenon, naïve subjects demonstrating a willingness to administer what they believed to be life-threatening electric shocks when asked to do so by an ‘expert’. This propensity to obey authority was recognised in the influential ‘Mindspace‘ (2010) document, where a ‘messenger’ nudge (based on the fact that the source of the information matters) is one of nine recommended behavioural science strategies to strengthen Government communications and thereby win people’s compliance with state diktats. We are currently witnessing a coordinated effort to exploit this inherent inclination to believe authoritative sources as a means of promoting climate catastrophism.
Trust me, I’m a doctor
The current year has already spawned two documents that peddle the climate-Armageddon narrative and, shamelessly, strive to exploit people’s inclination to swallow the proclamations of those in white coats. These documents are: a World Health Organisation (WHO) offering titled, ‘Communicating on Climate Change and Health: Toolkit for Health Professionals’, and ‘The Green Physician Toolkit’ produced by the Royal College of Physicians.
Published in March 2024, the WHO tells health professionals that, “This toolkit will help you become an effective and powerful climate communicator.” The two authors of the document, Remy Shergill and Shreya Shrikhande, display impressive world-government credentials: the former belonging to Australia’s “Health and Climate Alliance”, as well as being a co-chair of a “Planetary Health Working Group” at the George Institute for Global Health; the latter a member of the “Swiss Tropical and Public Health Institute”. It is acknowledged in the preamble that the content is informed by “several consultation sessions with communications experts”. Given that the prominent behavioural scientist Professor Susan Michie is currently the chair of the WHO’s “Technical Advisory Group on Behavioural Insights”, it is reasonable to assume that Michie (or her team of nudgers) have significantly shaped the content of this guidance.
Drawing heavily on the WHO document, the ‘Green Physician Toolkit’ was published in July. It boldly announces that “Physicians have a vital role to play in helping the NHS reach its Net Zero goal”. Predictably, the Royal College of Physicians’ booklet uncritically regurgitates the climate-emergency propaganda, citing fanciful modelled estimates of potential excess deaths resulting from extreme weather (incorporating, of course, insidious masked figures to perpetuate fear). The toolkit goes on to recommend specific actions for its members, such as: “including sustainability as a standing item in all clinical governance meetings”; “communicating with patients about climate change to help them understand how it will affect their health”; and to “advocate for [sic] organisational change such as divestment from fossil fuel companies and implementation of green plans”. If, after Covid, we needed any more evidence of the politicisation of the medical profession, this is it.
Both these documents explicitly exploit the messenger nudge. Thus, the WHO publication states, “Health professionals wear many hats in society – one of which is a trusted community voice.” By recruiting these respected mouthpieces, the authors aim to enable health professionals to “communicate with confidence” and thereby “empower… patients, clients and communities to take measures that will help limit climate change”. Similarly, the ‘Green Physician Toolkit’ includes the line, “You are uniquely placed as a trusted member of the community to discuss public health threats with patients.” It is clear that those pushing climate catastrophism agendas are unashamedly taking advantage of the fact that most people give credence to what their doctors tell them.
Are doctors getting dimmer?
Gaining access to medical school has long been considered one of the most formidable of academic challenges, requiring the highest A-level qualifications for entry. Once accepted onto a course, aspiring doctors must navigate a long and rigorous training programme, requiring the assimilation of huge amounts of information. At its best, the process produces highly knowledgeable physicians who can skilfully combine their in-depth understanding of the human body with their high levels of general intelligence so as to expertly tailor an optimal medical intervention for each individual patient. Alas – although many such practitioners remain – it seems that their number is dwindling year on year, replaced by an entity devoid of critical thinking who robotically follows top-down directives.
Based on my extended experience working in the NHS, I suspect the rot set in around the turn of the century with the increased reliance on centrally constructed protocols to direct healthcare interventions – of the type, “if X applies, then do Y”.. The traditional GP, who once expertly combined multiple information sources (the presenting symptoms, knowledge of disease processes, the patient’s medical history, lifestyle and personal preferences), has too often been replaced by a passive and unthinking operative who instinctively looks upwards for instruction from technocrats.
The content of the two previously mentioned ‘climate emergency’ documents provide support for my doctors-are-getting-dimmer hypothesis. For instance, both publications perpetuate the ‘science is settled’ oxymoron: the WHO paper cites the David Attenborough quote, “Saving the planet is no longer just a scientific challenge but a communications challenge”; the Royal College of Physicians booklet implores its members, “Don’t discuss the science”. Clearly, the overarching directive is to “do as you’re told”, without any deliberation or reflection on the legitimacy of the instruction. Instead, their technocratic thought leaders relay communication advice such as, “Keep the message simple, and repeat it often” and “Tell stories to connect people”. Should I ever visit my GP in the future, I imagine being told:
Okay, so you’re worried about your testicular lump, Mr. Sidley, but you really need to keep your concerns in perspective; do you know the world is burning up as we speak, burning up as we speak, burning up as we speak. And once upon a time – I think it was around the late 1990s – I visited the Gulf of Mexico and was informed by a local barman, while he served me my third shot of Tequila, that sea levels are on the rise…
It is, of course, unfair to suggest all physicians are displaying intellectual decline. Encouragingly, when the ‘Green Physician Toolkit’ was posted on a GP online forum, it evoked some ridicule, with comments such as “virtue signalling and no use to anyone”, “seriously unethical” and “is this some kind of parody?” Also, it would be wrong to suggest that it is only the medical professions that engages in this mindless collusion with climate catastrophism. The “U.K. Health Alliance on Climate Change“, whose central mission is “Empowering health professionals to advocate for [sic] better responses to climate change”, is an association of 48 healthcare organisations. While medical professions constitute the bulk of the membership, this collective of trusted messengers also comprises the British Dental Association, the Royal College of Nursing, the Royal Pharmaceutical Society and the Association of Clinical Psychologists.
Do pro-Government influencers ever check the legitimacy of their goals?
Whether it be under the banner of ‘deadly pandemic’, ‘climate Armageddon’ or other purported existential crisis, the state recruits an array of trusted messengers to impress the dominant narrative onto the masses, and thereby lever compliance with its latest diktats. Is it unreasonable to suggest that those engaged in this mission to relay Government communications should first check the validity of the goals that they are promoting?
Arguably, this question can most forcibly be put to those professionals at the top of the communication pyramid whose raison d’être is to enhance the power of the state’s official messaging: the behavioural scientists. During Covid, nudgers on the specialist SAGE subgroup, the Scientific Pandemic Insights Group on Behaviours (SPI-B), routinely encouraged the deployment of fear, shame and peer pressure to encourage compliance with the draconian restrictions and subsequent vaccine rollout. Did prominent behavioural scientists on the SPI-B – such as Professors David Halpern and Susan Michie – ever pause to reflect on the dire consequences of the behaviours they were pushing? For example, that lockdowns were an ineffectual strategy for controlling viral spread, but inflicted huge damage (including increased mortality) upon ordinary people in the U.K. and across the world. Or that, in 2020, there was already robust evidence that masks were of no benefit in reducing the spread of respiratory pathogens, yet would inflict a range of physical, social and psychological harms.
Celebrities can also be powerful influencers. During Covid, a collective of actors and comedians combined forces to urge ethnic minorities to accept the Covid vaccines:
I want to implore everyone to get their vaccine when called, so we can get back to the all-singing, all-dancing, rhythm of life that we love.
Comedian David Walliams
Thank you to the millions who have already received their vaccinations and please “just get your vaccine” to the rest. Vaccines are helping us get back to everything we love.
Actor Jim Broadbent
We love you. We don’t want you to get sick. We don’t want you to die… when your turn comes, take the jab.
Comedian Lenny Henry, in his letter to “Black Britain”
These three high profile mouthpieces also participated in an emotion-laden film espousing the benefits of the jabs. (Intriguingly this – cringeworthy – film is now blocked on the official GOV.UK website, but can still be viewed here.)
I have no doubt that, in this instance, the motives of these celebrities were altruistic. Furthermore, it is perhaps unfair to expect non-academics to do their own in-depth research before agreeing to lend their considerable weight to such ‘public health’ campaigns. But I do not think it is too much to ask that high profile media figures, or agents on their behalf, should ensure there is a no realistic risk that the behaviours they are beseeching us to carry out will do more harm than good. After all, encouraging their fans to accept an experimental medical intervention that increases risk of myocarditis and blood clots is a calamitous outcome – and not a good look for the celebrities involved.
And then we have the medical doctors. Is it unreasonable to suggest that these highly educated professionals should be conversant with the fact that the strongest predictor of health is wealth, and that policies, like the Net Zero madness, impoverish us all? Are they blissfully unaware that Nobel-prize winning physicist Dr. John Clauser has concluded that the dominant climate narrative is “a dangerous corruption of science”? Do these physicians know that, in August 2022, over 1,200 scientists and professionals signed a declaration that, “There is no climate emergency”’? (A remarkably high figure, particularly when one considers the extraordinary levels of censorship, cancellation and smearing that awaits any expert brave enough to speak openly against the dominant climate narrative; for example, a 2022 research paper by four Italian scientists, that concluded that a “climate emergency” is not supported by the data was subsequently censored and retracted.)
Alas, it appears that our healthcare experts – or, perhaps more pertinently, the leaders of their professional bodies – blindly swallow whatever their elite paymasters espouse, thereby colluding in the propagation of ideologically-driven narratives, blinded to the collateral damage of their endeavours.
Concluding comments
Words emanating from messengers that are perceived as authoritative are likely to be more persuasive. Consequently, this ‘messenger’ nudge is routinely exploited by governments as a means of getting the populace to obey their decrees. Over recent years, healthcare professionals and TV celebrities have been recruited to act as influential mouthpieces, with behavioural scientists often providing guidance regarding what they should say.
It is incumbent on these influencers to check the legitimacy of the goals they are promoting before agreeing to be the state’s mouthpieces. Otherwise, they risk being collaborators in spreading messages that inflict more harm than good, as well as destroying their own reputations and the credibility of the professions to which they belong.
Dr. Gary Sidley is a retired NHS Consultant Clinical Psychologist and co-founder of the Smile Free campaign opposed to mask mandates. Subscribe to his Substack page.
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Already got my flouride filters up and running
Where did you them ?
Berkey water filters.
Good for you! Berkey supposed to be very good although very pricey.
Yet another way the government seems determined to make as many people as ill as possible without them realising it.
flouride?
I tip my hat to that one.
From a time when the bullshit was just brushed on, rather than ladled.
Thanks EF can always count on you to point out typos, the negative etc. I live in hope that one day you’ll surprise me and come out with something either helpful or at least positive….. Come on, everyone needs ‘firsts’ in their lives.
The triumph of hope over experience.
I believe my Britta filtered kettle filters out such compounds…
I am not sure Britta kettles do – it’s worth checking.
From Brita’s website
Brita filters are almost worthless. Get something like a Propur or Alexapur filter if you want most of the shite taking out of your water, including dissolved pesticides and medication.
The question I ask myself as a member of the public is: what problem are they trying to solve? Is there a problem?
As I see it, one of the major problems with bureaucracies is that they have to keep finding reasons to justify their existence. So they contrive problems or exaggerate them in order to be able to produce solutions.
I literally had no idea there was a problem with our drinking water that needed the engagement of the Chief Medical Officer and parliament.
There is a problem with tooth decay and it’s quite simple; sugar! Probably several E numbers contributing too.
People can make a choice, feed your children and yourself with lots of sweets and you will get fat and your teeth drop out. They have or should have the right to damage themselves if that is their wish.
I don’t see it as a problem they are trying to “solve” – I see it as one of the many many measures they can impose on the population, that we have zero say in or choice about, but which is designed to make people ill.
Fluoride is not a healthy thing to consume.
Fluoride, in any concentration, is a corrosive. It’s a by-product of heavy industry.
They are just awaiting a gap in the news before they go full onslaught on how kids teeth are so bad, rotten etc leading to mental health issues that would be quickly fixed by adding fluoride which they claim is sage etc. some buried study will say you need to drink more than 4 litres a day before it becomes dangerous which will be based on someone like the rock rather than some normal person who barely consumes 1 litre.
we get fluoride from so many other foods we consume because they ‘fortify’ foods like kids breakfast cereals with it.
‘what problem are they trying to solve?‘
errr… tooth decay?
The very idea and the element itself forms part of an Ahrimanic attack. This particular halogen has certain properties that are inimical to human consciousness. And it gives clues in its propensity to replace healthy halogens. How many people pay attention to the quality of the water that they ingest, fluoridated or not. If you are concerned about the nature of reality how can you overlook something that comprises most of your physical body. Is it really that difficult for us to move away from a reductionist molecular understanding of reality. Surely our time is crying out for us to do so. I
Didn’t understand your post there but loved it nonetheless!
Was it not Weston Price, a dentist in the early 1900s, who went travelling across the world to look at people’s dental and overall health and the observation he made was that people who ate an unprocessed, ancestral-type diet, full of whole foods had better teeth and general health than those who ate a less nutrient-dense diet? I don’t think fluoride was in drinking water or even toothpaste then ( I’m guessing, correct me if I’m wrong ), which would indicate that fluoride is not the cause of strong, healthy teeth, diet is. Just like it’s a poor diet and brushing technique that is the cause of cavities, not the absence of fluoride.
Today’s problem is periodontal disease rather than caries. It isn’t clear how fluoridation will help with this (it might a bit).
But surely if it is in toothpaste (assuming many types of toothpaste are without fluoride) They why the need for it in water. At least if you brush your teeth with it you spit it out after. I did read about kids toothpaste that if they ingest too much, they must be taken to a Doctor.
I seem to recall being taught in school (a very long time ago) that it was noticed that children in poor areas of Sunderland had less tooth decay than children living in very similar conditions in nearby Newcastle. The water supply in the former had high levels of naturally occurring fluoride.
I wonder if that study compared the IQs of those children! I’d wager it was lower on average in the fluoride areas.
Flouride is known to lower fertility, particularly in females. Must be a coincidence.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hI4kpvW760M
Excellent. Thanks for posting.
But how about the levels of their ‘consciousness’? Were the Sunderland kids thicker than the Newcastle bairns?
“This particular halogen has certain properties that are inimical to human consciousness.”
When you look at the public wandering around in their face masks you could easily be led to the conclusion that they’ve all ‘been at the fluoride’. I blame Aquafresh.
Of course Mackems are thicker than Geordies!
Does the fluoride mackem thick?
Yes if you support the ‘Magpies’ then you’d agree with that! lol
I read that fascinating claim in books on health back in the 1970s. I couldn’t find much on the internet when I looked. The two areas were described as 1 ‘South Tyneside’ and 2 ‘North Tyneside’. Region 1 was supplied by deep borehole water, 2 got (treated) peat bog water through the taps.
The fluoride would be incidental to the beneficial minerals in the hard water, e.g. calcium, magnesium, etc. The finding was that S Tyneside was healthier, despite I assume the fluoride being a bit too high.
Oh really? I grew up in Newcastle and I never knew that.
Naturally occuring fluoride in water is different from the complex compound chemical version they add to water, it seems to be a by product of phosphate fertiliser production. Who benefits? We know that no-one is really bothered about our good health, so there must be another reason.
The reason so many kids got fillings back in the 60s, 70s, 80s was the nhs funding model. Basically piece rates, a fee for every filling, so it was justified as “preventative” rather than assault and ABH. Armed forces personnel were subject to ridiculous mandates, like all aircrew must have their wisdom teeth removed. Ludicrous, with hindsight.
Or even without.
All the fillings I had as a kid were unnecessary.
Yes, I had a dentist who found “problems” every time I had a check up during the 70’s. Never had so many fillings. I think that one was genuine, but the rest – no.
Didn’t realise it at the time, in those days I was young and trusted the medical profession.
Met loads of folk whose teeth were destroyed by 70s dentistry, mouthful of amalgam probably poisoning them too. All those fillings paid for private school for the dentist’s children. Spaying cats provided the same benefit for the offspring of vets. Well it did, now those professions have gone from individual practices to corporate chains, the profits go elsewhere as the pharma shackles get stronger.
Still, the 21st century model of medical care, with no access to doctors or dentists for the plebs, reduces the risk of unnecessary and possibly harmful interventions. Oh, wait, except for vaxxes….
Really? But how do you know? Now I’m wondering about my own….Off topic but I felt the optician saying I needed glasses to look at the blackboard was unnecessary. There was nothing wrong with my eyes then once I started wearing glasses in the class, that’s when I started needing them more as my vision deteriorated. Weird memory as I’m in my 40s now…
I can think of at least 3 incidences in my dental journey where dentists said I needed a LOT of fillings that, with hindsight I have been fairly sure I didn’t need.
And once they start to fill them that isn’t going to end well.
The NHS filling payments are why children of that era have a mouth full of amalgam. Most of the tooth was taken away and what was left filled with amalgam which often goes black with age and is horrible to look at.
You are correct about no-one really caring about our health and so we are slowly being poisoned. There are articles online if you rummage enough that explain that fluoride inhibits part of the cellular respiration cycle (often called the Krebs cycle) and that can’t be good…
Brilliant comment. In about 17 years of being treated at one NHS dentist as a child I had my teeth “cleaned” by a roller sponge being run over them once. Couple that with the piecework financial model and “extension for prevention” drilling reducing tooth substance and the insane use of silver amalgams aka mercury (even in my deciduous teeth – a practice now banned) you can look forward to much ongoing expense in replacing/maintaining former “restorations” – and then having to replace with implants or dentures.
A lot of my silver amalgam fillings failed in my thirties and were replaced by ceramics. I distinctly recall my mood lifting in those years despite increased pressure at work.
Mogwai you are absolutely right re both Weston Price and re the use of fluoride.
The health of your teeth begins in the gut – you need plenty of fats, whole fat dairy and lots of it, plenty of protein, magnesium, and you need to avoid sugar and white bread, any bread really – by doing that it is possible to “re-mineralise” your teeth and heal some cavities. It has nothing whatsoever to do with fluoride, but as usual the DOH and the NHS come at it from back to front and reach the wrong conclusion.
The NHS is still telling people to eat a lot of carbs. and to beware of saturated fat. It’s all on the NHS website. It tells people to eat fruit and veg. but for people sensitive to gluten – probably quite a lot – the advice on cereals is utterly wrong.
Dr David Unwin, GP, has for 20 years cured about half his type 2 diabetic patients by prescribing a low-carb diet. He gets no thanks from anyone in the NHS/DHSC.
The Weston Price Foundation seems right, as do Diet Doctor and lots of other sites outside the mainstream.
Dr Unwin and his wife are great. They come across as lovely people who genuinely care about their patients and clearly have educated themselves in nutrition, as we know doctors get none or next to no training on this in med school. He’s done a cracking job at successfully improving patients’ health and reversing their diabetes. I liked his chart showing the equivalent tsps of sugar in every day foods like rice or bread. Much better visual for people to understand than just numbers only.
You can find the insane (malicious?) Establishment pushing of low fat / high carbs diets even for diabetics scrutinised and deconstructed in Cummins / Gerber: Eat Rich Live Long (2018).
The view inescapably forms that all government policy is actually for the benefit of a constituency which does NOT comprise the population at large but rather sectional monetary and corporate interests.
He who pays the piper calls the tune.
Thanks Milo. Glad I remembered that correctly from years back. And of course we mustn’t forget the detrimental effect fizzy pop and other acidic beverages have on dental health. People think they’re healthy having water with lemon or apple cider vinegar but forget to drink it through a straw. Fruit juices are a bugger for eroding enamel too. Even the lactose in milk has bad effects for little kids if the parents skip brushing their teeth before bed. When I was a nurse we had lists and lists of pre-school age kids needing their teeth removed under a general anaesthetic because they’d rotted usually. Terrible.
Absolutely right Mogwai – I always drink anything with any kind of juice in it through a straw. I bought myself one of those stainless steel ones. When I was a child fizzy drinks and even fruit juices were very expensive, so they were a treat, and only consumed rarely. So many parents think nothing of giving their kids fizzy drinks on a regular basis, and as for the hidden acid in the healthy smoothies – likely to be off the scale. I ask myself, what is wrong with good old plain water (and then of course the fecking government decides to add fluoride to it!!!)
Nothing would surprise me now – to the point where I would imagine they have some tech slave trawling through all of this and reporting back:
“Sir, they are on to us, posting about water filters you can buy to eliminate the fluoride. We are going to have to find some other way to mass poison all of the vaxx refuseniks”
What the heck will they think of next? It’ll be Nil by Mouth, Jib at the Jabs, Involuntary Hunger Strikes, Wholesale Hypothermia…..
Public health needs to be supported and improved by decent diets and living conditions, made possible by fossil fuels, employment, affordability and a bunch of people who have some small idea of what they’re doing. Putting fluoride in the water isn’t going to solve dental problems caused by poor diets and lack of treatment from infancy onwards by non-existent dentists. As with their gene therapies, another quick fix solution of dubious worth, if not definitely damaging to some, for a problem that, if it exists, has its roots elsewhere.
It seems to me that this proposal mirrors what has been occurring the last two years: so called medical experts wholeheartedly endorse a measure which is not in the public’s interest
Don’t forget groupthink.
Hmm, this sounds familiar.
Ah, you see, when viewed through the lens of Good Science…
Interesting article, not as nutty as I’d feared. Worth doing further research in full.
So has “The Science” been at it again? mandating the use of fluoride?
They’ve been trying for years to put fluoride in water. So far unsuccessfully for the main part but now they’ve discovered that most people are scared and risk averse they’ll keep trying until they succeed.
Here we go again. They’ve attempted to poison us with a safe vaccine, now they’re going try and poison us with a safe level of fluoride in our drinking water. What is the matter with these people, are they mentally ill?
To whom it may concern/apply, for the greater good, at the very least BUY A TOOTHBRUSH AND USE IT!
And eat less sugar.
And apparently in my case drink less carbonated drinks – even if they are sugar free – sparkling water for example (I’ve recently found out 30 years too late) strips the enamel from your teeth.
Dissolved CO2, ie the carbonation, forms a weak acid, carbonic acid, that’s why rainwater dissolves limestone over centuries. Several decades ago they taught these useful bits of info in A level chemistry!
Fruit juice eats away at teeth, toddlers often get given juice nowadays rather than milk or water, then the older ones start on tinned fizzy drinks with carbonation and phosphoric acid. Prior to the 1980s kids had tea like the adults, weak milky version fir the wains.
I asked my dentist about this as I drink a fair bit of fizzy water, especially in the summer, and she said it was better than pop/juice but not as good as plain water. I guess I should try to drink through a straw really but I keep forgetting. It’s still better than my diet Coke habit I had for years!
I claim total ignorance on the topic of the article but some practical experience with eating and the consequences :-).
I’m wondering whether they’ve discovered that fluoridated water, when drunk by a fully-vaxxed citizen, is several more times efficient at finishing him/her off.
‘An MP discovering something’ sounds like an oxymoron to me.
I think it is a way of trying to get at the unvaxxed – without them knowing or being able to do anything about it.
And dental floss.
A recent press release said that “higher levels of fluoride are associated with improved dental health outcomes”.
I’ll tell you something that is also associated with improved dental outcomes – access to affordable dental treatment that way too many are being denied now! I put this and my concerns about the proposed fluoridation of the water to my MP, and he couldn’t have cared less. In fact he banged the drum for it to be rolled out everywhere, the cuck.
What did you expect? You can’t still believe your local MP is there to serve the public surely?
I still believe that most MPs are so thick or lazy that any out-of-the-ordinary or technical issue (that might make them look dim) is dismissed so that can’t happen.
They mostly can’t define what constitutes a ‘party’. Or even a ‘woman’, come to that.
Mine is the MP for dentistry, thanks to the Covid overreaction my dentist has now kicked me off the NHS and I’m forced to pay private rates, thanks MP for dentistry Jo Churchill, not.
High levels of fluoride render the population dumb and incapable of active resistance.
If they want to have a person in an advertisement look thick or gormless it is often a Brummie. Puts a different perspective on it when you think that the obtuseness might’ve been manufactured. You don’t put things in the water because you think it might help the masses. In terms of oral health most of the damage can be easily avoided simply by understanding tooth decay and the imposition of refined sugars in recent times. And there is way more to it than that. The effect of chemicals like Aspartame for example on gum health, nerve health etc. These people are at the end of their reign in terms of their pernicious philosophy.
I hope you are right.
Who is this for? People who don’t clean their teeth at all? I’m not clear how consuming water impregnated with flouride helps with teeth, except it sloshing past the teeth when swigging tea. What am I missing?
I am beginning to see the wisdom in memes like this.
‘… oral health inequalities…’
There it is.
It’s all part of the ongoing heroic fight against inequality which justifies any cost, any consequence.
All useful in the erosion of personal responsibility. How can people be responsible when they are worrying about their carbon footprint
How much onslaught from industry can humans take?
Neurological disease from pesticides and weedkillers, more body and brain destruction from EM radiation from the cell towers, toxins in vaccines, and now the water supply is going to be contaminated.
And the greens are worried about about a bit of fossil fuel. Sheesh.
This one comes straight from the government.
Any ‘scientists’ in New Zealand found nanobots in fluorided drinking water yet? Has anyone checked people who have drunk water with added fluoride with their smartphones with the bluetooth turned on – any Mac i.p. codes coming out of them?
Don’t you know most of the conspiracies are invented by the likes of the CIA to distract from what they’re really doing? Surely you don’t imagine some nerd in a shed with no money to their name is responsible for these mass propaganda campaigns?
Oldest trick in the book. Take their focus off the practical questions about the moon landings with videos on YouTube claiming there is alien technology on the dark side of the moon. Human nature just lumps them all together.
I see the ‘magnetic’ nonsense has vanished in recent months. The ‘site’ of the ‘Covid jabs’ was supposed to be magnetic in many cases, remember? I wonder why that’s gone all quiet. My ‘conspiracy theory’ is that it was all a load of rubbish.
Or… maybe the CIA just want me to think it’s rubbish… who knows?
Good observation. As a method to discredit those opposed to mass jabbery it provided a convenient label to dismiss them.
I was wondering what other things I had been misled about. I’ve found the article extremely useful and I will be taking steps to reduce my fluoride intake.
Diet, in a word. The recommend diet is not healthy for most people. Too much stodge which makes you fat and triggers inflammation.
Having discovered that sodium lauryl sulphate was the cause for my frequent mouth ulcers I have used toothpaste without it in. Several other elements also tend to be missing from such toothpaste, and my previously disintegrating teeth have benefited, with far less troubles since then.
Vit.D also helps. About 3,000 IU/day but it’s worth getting a few blood tests just to make sure. Touch wood, no decay since 2008.
Excellent Will. France does not artificially flouridate water thank goodness.
Now can you do the same for salt please. Another ridiculous myth.
Himalayan rock salt fan here. I consume plenty. Helps with the dangerous quantities of animal fats I’m told I eat
Polyunsaturated seed oils are the ones to avoid as if your life depended on it.
Ah Rowan – apologies, didn’t see your post before replying and you beat me to it!
Animal fats are very good for you Vaxtastic – don’t worry about them – it is the trans and seed fats you need to worry about which do the damage.
Him Salt is a legend in my house – I might be addicted, as I’d almost eat it neat!
There are so many simple things that you can do to improve your tooth and bone health. Turmeric and honey will make your teeth feel a lot stronger. Get a powdered nettle supplement. It makes a huge difference. The Romans would march forty miles a day in full armour and they attributed that stamina to netle ingestion. It really works. Propolis is very good for bone health too. But you have to move about and get a bit of light.
I’m unfamiliar with nettle. Or it’s effects. Must check it out.
It is said to be a plant source of iron.
My Grandmother used to make a great nettle soup.
Liver is very good for teeth, as is butter (rich in vit A – apparently you are supposed to consume at least 3 tbsp per day of it). Honey is a good source of boron which helps with the absorption of calcium
It is the role of Boron which is completely overlooked.
Boron is massively important for teeth and re-mineralisation.
Woah I’m learning a lot on this thread. I can feel a shopping list for Holland&Barrett coming on! LOL
Mogwai, if you are interested, and if you want to a) better your health (the health of the body starts in the mouth, there are no teeth in your stomach etc etc etc) and b) save money on dental bills (who knows what will be the next aspect of healthcare they chop off at source) check out this guy’s web page
http://www.drstevenlin.com
and also the page at http://www.askthedentist.com
according to both these guys it is possible to re- mineralise your teeth and the best way to do it is via what you eat (and also what you don’t eat which stops you taking up minerals – hence the fact that the health of your teeth starts in the gut)
Is It Possible to Remineralize Teeth? (holisticdentalinstitute.com)
Why is Phytic Acid Important?
Phytic acid is a substance found in plant seeds and has effects on mineral absorption. This molecule of phosphorus binds with other molecules to construct a type of phosphorus that is difficult to absorb by humans.
Phytic acid is converted by our bodies into the calcium-removing phytates. Individuals who consume far too high amounts of the damaging phytic acid will suffer from calcium deficiency and will not be able to absorb other minerals properly.
Phytic acid is present in plant seeds, nuts, grains, legumes and, in smaller amounts, some fruits, and vegetables. Because of modern agricultural practices, such as using phosphorus fertilizer, the content of phytic acid in our foods is greater than ever.
People who consume foods with large amounts of phytic acid stand greater chances of developing mineral deficiencies, osteoporosis, and tooth decay. This is why, knowing that you consume products that contain this acid, you must look for ways to remineralize teeth and begin the healing process.
How to Remineralize Teeth
1. Change your diet
Your first step should be to cut back on cavity-causing foods. This means reducing the following:
Refined sugars and carbohydrates create blood sugar rollercoasters that can result in the blocking of the mineralization flow in your teeth. Both white flour and white sugar are devoid of minerals, vitamins, and fiber. Because they do not nourish the body in any way, the teeth’s health is weakened and cavities occur.
Phytates-containing foods, as we previously discussed, contribute to the inability absorb minerals. Anyone who is serious about putting into practice what they’ve learned about the remineralization of the teeth must avoid foods that have high levels of Phytates.
Cut back grains and starches. You should eat 80 percent non-starchy foods, such as salad, and only 20 percent grains. And don’t forget the importance of alkalizing foods. There are also alkaline solutions on the market that you can rinse your mouth with.
consume healthy oils such as flax, olive, hemp, and coconut.
2. Take fermented cod oil
Fermented cod oil is packed with fat soluble vitamins. As we’ve previously discussed, Vitamin D is crucial in maintaining your teeth strong. It has the ability to heal cavities, prevent gingivitis, and it is also a natural anti-inflammatory.
Because calcium is circulated in and out of the teeth, we need a process regulator. Vitamin D does the job of sending the proper amounts of calcium to the teeth. It is also responsible for binding your teeth to the mouth’s bones, thus preventing periodontal disease.
3. Take Vitamin K
Previously linked to blood clotting, Vitamin K also harnesses proteins that have the ability to distribute minerals in the teeth and bones. This vitamin is vital to both transporting calcium to our bones as well as preventing calcification.
You can find Vitamin K1 in kale, spinach, collard greens, mustard greens, beet greens, turnip greens, Swiss chard, broccoli, Brussels sprout, and parsley. Vitamin K2 is found in fish and other meat, dairy, eggs, butter, and fermented vegetables.
4. Re-mineralize water
Remineralize teeth by re-mineralizing your water. If you’re not on a healthy diet or you sweat a lot, you need the nutritious minerals. Water that has been re-mineralized also quenches thirst much better than regular water, and it is also absorbed faster. Adding mineral into your water increases the pH and brings it to an alkaline state.
Here how you do it:
Other useful ways to remineralize teeth:
And rather than Holland and Barrett you might get better quality products online.
After a recent dental scare I have spent weeks researching this and am impressed with the knowledge coming to the fore on this thread on this subject (actually a good one DS!) mind you – I’d expect no less, as the people posting BTL have a breadth of knowledge and talents and are open minded and interested in taking care of their own health.
What I want to understand is; are the feckers trying to:
a) Kill us / destroy the West
b) Make money at any cost, or
c) They are just insane
Ask the 800 P&O workers who were turfed off their ships and replaced by cheap labour foreigners. Making money, and if ‘the west’ is destroyed in the process, what does the Chinese Communist Party care?
Have the thugs who worked for the ‘security firm’ been named yet? If not, why not?
They do it because they can. How many people do you know in your own circle who care about these things? If you sent the above article to all of them, how many would laugh at you for being a conspiracy theorist?
b) and a)because of b). c) is more that the public health ‘experts’ are lazy and incompetent groupthinkers. I have always maintained that public health, climate ‘science’ and social science are at best pseudosciences
Or: All of the above.
They are a), b) and c).
I think it is a combo of all 3, all 3 are involved, but to my mind it is principally a) for some reason and b) is just a handy bi-product which they are happy to take advantage of because they are c)
Do you realize that in addition to fluoridating water, why, there are studies underway to fluoridate salt, flour, fruit juices, soup, sugar, milk, ice cream? Ice cream, Mandrake? Children’s ice cream!
You know when fluoridation began?…1946. 1946, Mandrake. How does that coincide with your post-war Commie conspiracy, huh? It’s incredibly obvious, isn’t it? A foreign substance is introduced into our precious bodily fluids without the knowledge of the individual, and certainly without any choice. That’s the way your hard-core Commie works
I first became aware of it, Mandrake, during the physical act of love… Yes, a profound sense of fatigue, a feeling of emptiness followed. Luckily I – I was able to interpret these feelings correctly. Loss of essence. I can assure you it has not recurred, Mandrake. Women, er, women sense my power, and they seek the life essence. I do not avoid women, Mandrake…but I do deny them my essence.
Life imitates art.
When we talk about people thinking too much we say that they are ruminating. This is important: for us to understand when we ruminate too much.Chewing the cud, going over things time and time again. We need to spring free from this grasp.
Why didn’t they complete the trials, if there is no concrete evidence either way, why approve it.
Part of the reason is economic – it presents immense opportunities for the dumping of fluoride salts into an area of people who don’t understand. If you were an evil psychopath then you would just dump your toxic load at the first available opportutunity.
Another case of the health hierarchy claiming to follow the science when in fact they don’t?
I hold it up in front of my mamma and I tell her straight. Either you drink piss or you drink death. And on some level she understands.
If the government is pushing something hard then you can be almost certain that its real purpose will have little to do with hype being dished out to the masses. I read Chris Bryson’s excellent book many years ago, it was then and still is an excellent account of the dark forces behind the long running plot to toxify public water supplies. The parallels with the Covid Event are as numerous as they are disturbing.
Agree re: Bryson: “The Fluoride Deception”.
There is another one, from 2010, written by academics and equally if not more denunciatory:
Beck, James; Micklem, H. S.; Connett, Paul:
“The Case Against Fluoride: How Hazardous Waste Ended Up in Our Drinking Water and the Bad Science and Powerful Politics That Keep It There” (2010)
I live in Dorset and Wessex Water say that they don’t add fluoride. Presumably the Health and Care Bill will change all that.
About a year ago I bought a water distiller for about £100 after becoming concerned about the presence of other toxins in the water but it also removes ALL fluoride. I recommend buying one – the gunk left after distillation is something to behold.
can you tell us what brand you bought?
The best solution is to get a reverse osmosis filter. The tankless 6 stage ones are the best as they filter out absolutely everything and then remineralise your water. They’re pretty hard to come by in the UK but I heard Toby and James Delingpole running an ad on the London Calling podcast for one that seemed very reasonably priced. I looked at the website and it’s also too spec. The site they advertised was filterlondon.com and it sends you to the Finer Filters website which seems to be a fully UK based company.
Tales from the Marxist State
Full pay for no work to be extended beyond 12 months
Welsh NHS staff sick with long Covid stay on full pay – BBC News
Totally unconnected
Bang goes the 5year wait for a knee operation, now looking more like 10 years
Covid: NHS Wales planned care will slow down – health minister – BBC News
Looking at this I read it as not present (at meaningful levels) in my post code IP32?
But maybe in my neighbours? Do post codes and water supplies align to such a degree?
I’ve just now started filtering my drinking water/coffee water, but I suspect any damage that was likely to be done to me (after 42 years) by trusting Drs, Pills, Vaccines and now ever water suppliers has mostly already been done.
Areas of the UK with Naturally-Fluoridated WaterThe following Postal Districts have naturally-fluoridated water at more than 0.5 ppm:
Durham: DH1, 2, part of 6
Essex: CO1-6, 8-10
Lincolnshire: Part of LN13
Peterborough: PE2, 4
Suffolk: IP1-8, 13, 14, 28 to 30, 33
Teesside: TS27, 28
Tyneside: NE25, 26, 29; part of NE30
https://www.uk-water-filters.co.uk/fluoride_areas_uk.html
I know those postcodes in Tyneside well. When I visit family/friends their water always tastes dreadful. Even when I make tea it tastes really odd. The water comes out the tap white and clears from the bottom up. I figured it must be the mineral content but anyway, the water tastes disgusting there.
Where I spend most of my time, according to the water company the mean value is 0.16 mg/l (or 0.1602 ppm). This is a Thames Water area, which gets much of the supply from Oxford Farmoor surface reservoir, but mixed with other ground water from time to time.
Popular in dentistry though. One of the dentists I used a while back actually prescribed some high fluoride toothpaste – still got some of it, albeit past it’s expiry date; It’s 5000 ppm. The normal toothpaste I use has 350 ppm.
Ffs. What bollocks now. I already have fluorosis from growing up in a naturally high fluoride area, and my mother having the genius idea of giving me fluoride tablets on top of fluoride toothpaste.
JUST STOP MEDDLING.
There are way too many Dentists around. Signals how poor and sugary a diet society has.
Quoting Alex Jones once on the radio when the discussion got a bit heated
“Flouride Head”
So despite the water coming in contact with our teeth for less than a fraction of a second, they care more about what it does to our teeth than what it does to our bodies, once it is absorbed? Typical.
I really do not understand where this absolutely idiotic and destructive idea that grips the population comes from, that we must force people to do things “for their own good”. And not only that, but that we must force ALL people to do something because it is for the good of some very few. Why am I being forced to ingest fluoride because some other person that may or may not exist has made the conscious choice to not brush their teeth? Not to mention that there may be no connection between the two.
It really is to blame for a lot of the problems we have in society. People are somehow ok with taxation being used as a deterrent. They’re ok with exorbitant fuel prices meant to deter people from buying and driving cars. They’re ok with taxing company parking lots in order to discourage people from driving to work. I cannot understand how someone can be so stupid as to agree with this.
If it wasn’t harmful the Tories wouldn’t be doing it.
A word to the wise: in addition to distilling/filtering fluoride out of your drinking water, use a fluoride-free toothpaste, e.g. Euthymol.
Avoiding any and all vaccines is also sound advice, the globalists love pumping toxins into the people.
Or even better re-mineralising toothpaste
Is that a thing?
I suspect it’s a marketing gimmick. Growing up in the ’80s we had like 1 or 2 types of toothpaste and the family shared 1 tube. Now you go to the shop and there’s such a huge array of various ones I’m convinced it’s mostly just marketing. It really should not be that complex of an issue. haha…
Yep – it most certainly is – you can even make your own at home.
All commercial toothpastes contain a chemical which sits like a biofilm over your teeth and which prevents your teeth being re-mineralised from the calcium and magnesium rich foods you eat. You can easily make your own toothpaste at home, which will leave your teeth feeling cleaner than anything you can buy in the chemist. See my reply above to Mogwai.
The medical cartels need to be shut down, they are bad for your health!
Canadian (previously unaware of the dangers of public health) sitting here thinking how much higher my IQ would have been and how much more successful I would have been as a result if my mom and subsequently I had been aware of this. That’s a lot of years of fluoride consumption, can one detox fluoride? Damn gas prices, these water filters are $ and non-fluoride toothpaste $ too.
Water is for brushing teeth Wine is for drinking
There is nothing that Government implements that benefits society. Nothing!!!!
If it is safe swallow the toothpaste….oh wait.
What else do they intend to dose us with in our water? A great opportunity for the evil ones in government.
https://www.mercola.com/infographics/avoid-fluoride-exposure.htm
https://fluoridealert.org
OP-ED: IT IS TIME TO PROTECT KIDS’ DEVELOPING BRAINS FROM FLUORIDE
Mounting evidence suggests fluoride may be hampering brain development and reducing kids’ IQ. The US needs to rethink this exposure for pregnant women and children.
https://fluoridealert.org/news/op-ed-it-is-time-to-protect-kids-developing-brains-from-fluoride/
3 Reasons to end Water Fluoridation
Reason #1: Fluoridation Is an Outdated Form of Mass Medication
Reason #2: Fluoridation Is Unnecessary and Ineffective
Reason #3: Fluoridation Is Not a Safe Practice
https://fluoridealert.org/issues/water/
We really need to push back against this.
I’d suggest a petition but Emerald Fox would deride the idea.
This site lists areas that have fluoride added to the water
https://www.uk-water-filters.co.uk/fluoride_areas_uk.html
Recommend this filter
If there is any silver lining to this pandemic and our utterly catastrophic response to it, it is that now more and more people are finally questioning things that were once taken for granted as unquestionable. Water fluoridation is literally mass drugging of the population without informed consent, and with very questionable benefits and clearly doing more harm than good on balance–sound familiar? Notice a pattern here?
Absolutely. I think it is designed to do away with the vaxx refuseniks – but will take a longer time than the clot shot
Don’t know how good these are, but perhaps worth a try:
pH Recharge 3F Alkaline Countertop Water Filter Dispenser – 3.3 Gallons Water Jug Dispenser – Removes Fluoride Chlorine & Impurities – Improves Water pH – Clean Healthy Drinking Water – 12.5 Litres : Amazon.co.uk: Home & Kitchen
to me looks like a cheaper and plastic version of Berkey which it states itself removes “some fluoride”
That fact it is plastic would be a no no for me as the plastic can contaminate the water with stuff which will cause hormone damage – especially if the water sits in it over an extended period of time.
Berkey would be better – it is stainless steel
Removes fluoride and a whole bunch of other crap too:
Alexapure Pitcher Water Filtration System, Reduces up to 92 Contaminants, BPA-Free 8-Cup Reservoir : Amazon.co.uk: Home & Kitchen
The vaccine is not enough to turn the population into being chronically ill – nor adding flouride to make us sick …..
Fluoride and your Thyroid–a dangerous connection
https://stopthethyroidmadness.com/fluoride-and-your-thyroid/
I had a personal tour of a borehole pumping house for Wolverhampton 50 years ago. There was a machine for fluoridation and my host was very nervous as he said in larger amount the fluorine they were using was poisonous. The dosing machine had quite a few alarms attached!
‘It is regrettable that the existing data on water fluoridation had not been examined earlier using mathematical-statistical methods. ‘
A model, they’re useless aren’t? Seem to recall scorn being poured upon modelling in a climate change post…
pp84-85 of Meinig, George E., DDS: “Root Canal Cover-up” (1998)
p161 of Leon Chaitow’s “Vaccination and Immunization” (1990).
This government like its predecessors has an absolute fixation with mass medicating the population and one assumes in part its attitude is shaped by lobbying on behalf of persons with an eye to the main chance – the taxpayer’s wallet.
See following link for reply from my MP and some comments/links
https://dailysceptic.org/2022/03/10/news-round-up-365/#comment-764708
The only hope now is localised lobbying against water adulteration. And no it’s not just a matter of having to spend money on a water filter, you get exposed to fluoride in bathing, washing, cooking preparation etc etc. And recall fluoride is in mouthwashes, toothpaste etc and if memory serves also impregnates moedrn dental cavity fillers.
Yes Weston A. Price MS., D.D.S. had much to say on the influence of diet on dental decay in “Nutrition and Physical Degeneration” (1939).
In this connection see
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2520490/pdf/brmedj07379-0001.pdf
BMJ 19 March 1932
Remarks On The Influence Of A Cereal-Free Die Rich In Vitamin D And Calcium On Dental Caries In Children By May Mellanby and C. Lee Pattison, M.B., B.S. (Pharmacology Department, University of Sheffield, and King Edward VII Hospital, Sheffield)
-commented at:
https://wholehealthsource.blogspot.com/2010/12/dr-mellanbys-tooth-decay-reversal-diet.html
“…Diet number 3 was the most effective. This was a grain-free diet plus supplemental vitamin D. Over 26 weeks, children in this group saw an average of only 0.4 cavities form or worsen, while 4.7 healed. The Mellanbys considered that they had essentially found a cure for this disorder in its early stages.”
Calcium fluoride is the naturally occurring stuff, which can also be problematic but less perhaps than the industrial offal herebelow:
“The 2 fluoride compounds currently used in England are Hexafluorosilicic acid [and] Disodium hexafluorosilicate.”
https://www.express.co.uk/life-style/health/1561275/Fluoride-side-effects-high-blood-pressure-skeletal-weakness-seizures
Material Safety Data Sheets on Hydrofluosilicic Acid and Sodium Fluoride giving details of the dangerous effects of exposure to those compounds summarised in commenter’s remarks at above express article:
https://web.archive.org/web/20111101151444/https://www.mosaicco.com/images/Hydrofluosilicic_Acid_05_11.pdfMSDS/Material Safety Data Sheet: Hydrofluosilicic Acid
https://web.archive.org/web/20111202225051/http://www.wku.edu/msds/docs/6254.pdfMSDS/Material Safety Data Sheet: Sodium Fluoride
https://web.archive.org/web/20051231125944/https://www.salon.com/news/1999/02/17news.htm
“Fluoride’s positive image in the United States may rest in part on the whitewashing of unwelcome research findings and the firing of scientists who dared question fluoride’s benefits. Dr. William Marcus, formerly the chief toxicologist for the EPA’s Office of Drinking Water, lost his job in 1991 after he insisted on an unbiased evaluation of fluoride’s potential to cause cancer. Marcus fought his dismissal in court, proved that it was politically motivated and eventually won reinstatement. Marcus now declines comment on the episode beyond saying, “I was right about fluoride’s carcinogenicity, and now we know that.” An investigation by the Senate Environment and Public Works Committee in 1991 supported Marcus’ charges, documenting that government scientists had been coerced to change their findings and portray fluoride more favorably.”
When we are being urged not to waste water, it seems that RO filters do just this – UK Water Filters state: “As part of the Reverse Osmosis filtering process about 70% of the water is rejected / wasted.”
Considering the number of households that are now seriously looking at investing in one, the environmental lobbyists ought to be getting on their high horses, and making a fuss.
As well as the negatives outlined in the article, it is also a fact that fluorine binds magnesium, and makes it unavailable to the hundreds of important processes it is involved in within the body. Certain prescription medications already do this. Carolyn Dean MD explains this perfectly in The Magnesium Miracle (2nd edition recommended).
Interesting on both aspects.
Specifically regarding magnesium thanks for the reference; that’s something also addressed by Cummins/Geeber in their Eat Rich Live Long and I will be checking my copy of The Magnesium factor (Seelig/Romanoff, 2003) for any additional info.