According to the Telegraph, electricity consumers in the Southeast of England will either have to pay more or face blackouts. Citing a National Grid executive’s candid remarks, the paper reveals the problem is one of the network’s congestion, compounded by the variability – or unreliability, in fact – of wind and solar power, on which the U.K. is increasingly dependent. Urgent reform is therefore needed, claim the executives of the monopoly – one the largest investor-owned utility companies in the world – which will benefit from the hundreds of billions of pounds of “investment” required to “save the planet”.
The market reform will allow utility companies to charge more in areas that face greater grid demand, in much the same way that London, for example, has a Congestion Charge to limit usage of the city’s central roads. As London’s population grows, and as Net Zero policies require the electrification of heat and transport, and more renewable energy sources are added to the grid, this congestion will increase. Wind farms are typically built miles offshore, or in rural areas far away from the capital, so users further away from the sources of power must pay the extra transport and congestion costs.
National Grid has been lobbying Government for this rule change for some time. Back in March, the PLC welcomed the Department for Energy Security and Net Zero’s Review of Electricity Market Arrangements (REMA). “Great Britain’s electricity transmission system requires an expansion at unprecedented scale and pace,” said the article, adding the far less plausible claim that that zonal pricing could produce savings to the consumer of around £1 billion a year.
It’s funny how expensive all this “investment” that is going to “save consumer’s money” has become. Also in March, National Grid announced a £60 billion investment in transmission infrastructure to meet the then Government’s 2035 target for the grid’s total decarbonisation. The problem, according to Andrew Montford of Net Zero Watch, was that the £60 billion was additional to a £54 billion package announced in 2022. Moreover, that investment only covers the “20,000 kilometres of the transmission grid”, says Montford, not the 800,000 kilometres of distribution cables – transmission being the main arteries of the network, while distribution being the fine blood vessels, carrying the power to its point of use. The £114 billion investment will add an extra £150 per year to the average household energy bill, Montford estimated. And now the new Government has brought the date of decarbonisation forward to 2030, those costs are going to rise.
How does this save anyone money? National Grid cannot explain. The Government cannot explain. Armies of Westminster wonks cannot explain. Yet somehow, the notion of “cheaper bills” drives the argument for every policy that requires astronomical amounts of “investment”, which, presumably, need to be paid for by you and me.
One similar such scam is the proposal for the Time of Use (TOU) pricing. According to its proponents, energy consumers can take advantage of times of greater supply or lower demand, at which there may be lower or even negative prices. This may make sense for certain large industrial consumers. But for domestic consumers it means organising one’s life around the weather. In a developed, First World industrialised economy, utilities ought to be there when people need them, not when the wind is blowing or the sun is shining. As energy prices rise and power becomes more scarce, this de facto rationing will hit the poorest consumers the hardest.
Environmentalism is a deeply regressive ideology. And the moral degenerates who celebrate it claim the poor will be better off because… they can get up in the middle of night to use their washing machines. Lower energy prices… when you don’t need the power. It’s a trick. A lie.
No less extortionate and regressive is this notion of making energy cheaper by charging people in London more for electricity than people elsewhere. And no less pig-headed, either: “Our mission is for clean power by 2030 because this is the best way to achieve energy independence and protect billpayers,” a DESNZ spokesperson told the Telegraph. And this is a clue as to how National Grid, and countless other chancers, are getting away with it.
The repetition of dogma in the face of challenging questions from a journalist about a looming and regressive shift in energy policy signals that it’s not up for debate. National Grid and its subsidiaries have been engaged first and foremost to service a political agenda, not to develop infrastructure of the kind that the public desperately needs. Hence National Grid has been brought directly into the new Government’s “Mission Control” under the direction of former Chief Executive of the Climate Change Committee (CCC), Chris Stark – or Sir Chris Stark as he will no doubt shortly be.
In a normal world, such proximity between private or corporate interests and policymaking would be widely viewed as inappropriate. But saving the planet changed all that. There is no time for scrutiny of superheroes! And anyway, the cost of saving the planet is peanuts compared to the cost of destroying the planet. So get your chequebooks out. The most fantastic inversion of reality has occurred and it is now those who question relationships between government and business that are viewed with suspicion and accused of having ulterior motives. Questioning Net Zero policy? You must be a fossil fuel shill!
The questions “How much is it going to cost?”, “How is this going to be done?”, and “What are the consequences if this policy fails?” are routinely met by the same smears. But promises of “energy security” and “lower bills” do little to allay fears that, as it rolls on, the policy agenda looks ever more like a rent-seeker’s paradise. Now you will be charged more based on where and when you use electricity because utility companies, once publicly owned, are now merely landlords who can charge ever more rent by producing scarcity and congestion, rather than the movement of electrons.
I have long wondered why officials, politicians and wonks are so intransigent. Why did the likes of the CCC not engage with critics, answering them in good faith? The answer is that they don’t have to. Legislation doesn’t require them to be scrutinised and doesn’t require them to answer criticism. And the same holds true for the dodgy relationships forged by the new Government and its agency suppliers. They are opaque and unaccountable. They do not answer to the people who they claim they will provide with lower bills and “energy security”.
The only sanction I can think of in response to such intransigence is the threat of nationalisation without compensation. I am not in favour of state confiscation. But it seems obvious to me that any company that lobbied for such an agenda in the hope of vast profits – legalised confiscation, via a monopoly, after all – ought to have calculated the political risk of undermining democracy.
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Bus services are an awkward one. Where I live (medium sized town) they drive around empty or with one or two passengers almost all of the time. Everyone has a car, and uses it, or uses taxis. I appreciate people would use them more if they were more frequent, but I don’t think it’s realistic to think you’d have the same level of usage as you would in a big city, so you’re left with subsidising an inconvenient service for the benefit of a tiny few. I sometimes wonder if we might be better off simply offering taxi vouchers for those who don’t own a car and can’t afford taxis.
Smaller buses. Taxi-buses/minivan-buses. Like in South Africa. They’re always jam-packed.
The main reason most people don’t use public transport much/unless absolutely necessary is the cost. It’s too expensive. It’s not subsidised to the same extent as car use and roads, but the big people-carriers ( 40+ passengers ) for short distances really belong to a pre-car era; they’re dinosaurs.
Trains are expensive but buses are not IMO if you don’t own a car, unless you take a very high number of trips. I would have thought it’s the inconvenience. But agree that a more flexible, frequent service with smaller vehicles is probably better.
Absolutely, this makes sense. In South America, where they are called ‘collectivos’, there are no Council Health & Safety officers breathing down your neck or people demanding high insurance. These would be the two major problems about trying something like that here. Also, in SA, there is a much lower car ownership. In this country, we have gone the other way and encouraged car ownership to the point where the roads are choked. When I was growing up very few of my friends had cars and virtually none in London. We got around OK, got lifts and buses, trains etc. Smaller regular and affordable buses is the future in my view.
In rural areas it’s simply because it’s impractical. Too much stuff to carry around and living too far from bus routes. Even to get to my nearest town, I would have to walk a mile and a half to catch a bus, which even with the current schedule may or may not turn up, or be vastly delayed, walk another mile or so on the other end, then do all that again in reverse loaded with bags of shopping!
Who’s got the time for that? Not me.
Or the strength when it comes to the older generations.
Indeed, hence my suggestion to use taxis – or maybe make the minivan routes much more flexible so they take people door to door where it’s needed
Peddlers of environmental doom have shown their true totalitarian colours
Corporations and utopians are offering authoritarian solutions to crises only democracy and free markets can solve
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2022/08/15/peddlers-environmental-doom-have-shown-true-totalitarian-colours/
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Nicola Sturgeon mulls green crackdown for Scottish malt
Now why do I believe that Sturgeon is on the point of coming out and banning Scotland’s biggest export?
This “policy initiative” wouldn’t have come from the Davos Deviants would it? Even a non scientist like me could machine gun this nonsense in a matter of minutes.
People like Sturgeon are serious dangers to life on earth and I am not joking.
Morning HP! (said in hurried tones before the downtickers pounce)
I read that headline too and have come to the conclusion that people like Sturgeon are probably clinically insane. She panders to the WEF strategy of targeting anything and everything that produces anything that could be construed as a greenhouse gas. You have to ask yourself why? Why this almost fanatical zeal to hunt down and target these things when there’s no reliable science on the matter and it’s much more an emotional response than a logical one. A logical one would discount the minute amounts of gas floating away into the atmosphere from the whisky vats. So, it must be the Net Zero cult and it is a cult and an insane one at that. Net Zero is their way of getting more control, getting us out of our cars, getting us out of the countryside into their smart cities, feeding us insects, and all the rest of the nonsense. Well, I have news for them…it ain’t going to happen! Oh dear..I got rather carried away… Anyway, Sturgeon must go for Scotland’s sanity. She is corrupt to her core and it isn’t even a tartan one! I’ll drink to that – a large malt thank you!
Aethelred, you have said exactly what I was thinking. Sometimes I am just too lazy to do all the typing so thank you.
I’ll follow you with a large malt.
Chinn, chinn.
Perhaps because she’s stupid? It must be a good source of revenue – either in foreign currency, or stonking excise duty for domestic sales. £28.74 per litre of spirit @ 20 °C with VAT on top at present.
Morning all….
A reminder, that when we talk about vaccine side-effects, for many thousands of people it’s very real……it doesn’t depend on pre-prints talking about nocebo effects, it doesn’t depend on data and ‘con founders’..it’s there, it’s real..it’s simple….and I think we do people a grave injustice if we ignore it…
I will never forget, nor forgive…ever!
To steal a phrase…”look him in the eyes….and tell him the risk isn’t real”…..
http://www.vaxtestimonies.org/en/
Or how about this from this morning’s TCW?
https://www.conservativewoman.co.uk/needless-jabs-the-death-penalty-for-thousands/
And god only knows how many are experiencing bad effects post-jab and not even putting 2 and 2 together? They’ll never find their way onto an adverse events reporting system and I very much doubt a doctor would initiate an entry either, especially if weeks or months have elapsed. And how many adverse effects are experienced in the elderly but their age and existing comorbidities are a perfect cover-up? You could just put anything and everything down to old age, say, after the age of 75yrs couldn’t you?
But its the deaths and ill-effects we’re seeing in younger folk that make this whole shit sandwich stand out due to the over-bearing stench. I don’t care how many ways they want to explain away or minimize the many heart issues or ‘SADS’ cases we’re seeing, healthy young and fit people dying or getting serious heart complaints has always been a rarity, but now we’re expected to believe anything under the sun ( inc the sun itself ) is the cause for the increase that cannot be hidden any longer. Next they’ll be advertising defibrillators on the telly on the run-up to Xmas. The perfect Xmas gift and every household should have one, probably getting more use out of it than the fancy juicer or rowing machine anyway.
Bloody hell Mogs! You are on fire.
Haha flatterer..I like visiting this place as I feel like I drop a dress size in angst every time! I’m well on my way to UK size zero at this point.
Yes, I know several people who have become quite debilitated since they were jabbed, and people who were previously active/mobile etc. The one thing they have in common is they are all over 75, and they put it down to the privations and loneliness of lockdown, not the jab, because they trusted what they were told. Of course, they might be right. No one will ever know, and no one will care if they are robbed of a few years of life because, well, they’re old, aren’t they?
Following on from the article by Pierre Kory I posted yesterday about the success of Ivermectin in Uttar Pradesh…
https://pierrekory.substack.com/p/the-miracle-not-heard-around-the-1ee?utm_source=twitter&sd=pf
This is from Robert Malone.
https://rwmalonemd.substack.com/p/ivermectin-why-is-the-administrative?utm_source=email
Heretic filmmaker Mikki Willis has compiled a thirteen-minute video which bluntly and explicitly documents the deeply disturbing modern parable of collusion between US Health and Human Service elites, corporate media, the medical-pharmaceutical industrial complex, and big tech to block the use of Ivermectin in the US and developed western nations for treating COVID-19 disease.
Way back now this was one of the ‘red flags’ for me in the whole Con….I couldn’t understand why doctors were being told NOT to treat people. I couldn’t grasp why people weren’t finding it odd that doctors were being told by Government’s and medical bodies not to give effective, possibly life-saving treatments to people.
When does that ever happen???
It never made sense to say these treatments weren’t effective because (even if that were true) in the main they could never have done any harm….
Hard not to think they intended to harm, or were reckless enough not to care…
It was to make it impossible for a GP to assess a patient; it was to corral patients into isolation from family & friends who would advocate for the patient; it was to force a “treatment protocol” (I have a copy somewhere but can’t find it – typical!) which consisted of double the dose of both morphine & midazolam to treat a respiratory symptom, both of which suppress respiration; it was to ventilate & to create the spike in deaths which were required.
LOL!
Two mutually incompatible developments: The axing of bus services, at the same time as phasing-out of affordable fuel-driven vehicles. Can’t afford an expensive EV but you live out in the boondocks where there’s a bus a day if you’re lucky… snookered!
Agree…oh but wait…look over there…there’s a nice new Smart city with AI controlled electric buses that can take you to the shopping centre and Bug-A King with it’s flagship product the ‘GrassWhopper’…
Class
I’m waiting to see if the supermarkets over here start to stock insect kack any time soon. One chain sold bug burgers years ago but they didn’t last long because presumably nobody bought them. There were two types, one of them mealworm flavour! LOL Honestly, I think they were better suited to the bird table in the garden over winter time, along with the fat balls and peanuts. A veritable feast for the dicky birds but even the thought of consuming such ‘bush tucker’ makes me want to heave.
I imagine at this very moment in time a group of shiny eyed marketeers/advertisers, all totally indoctrinated into Net Zero, sitting around a meeting room table discussing exactly how to pitch insects to unwilling consumers. How can they come up with something palatable for the discerning gourmand? Calling them insects probably doesn’t help. Or bugs, worms, creepy crawlies etc for that matter. No, they’re going to have re-think the whole branding thing ‘cos there’s a whole load of us out here in the real world who like eating the things we eat and no thank you very much Mr Schwab and Mr Gates but if you like them so much how about YOU eat them first. And that goes for all the WEFidiots – go on, it’s Good Grub!
I am sharing this post with some Covidiots, it’s just too damned good.
Bug-A King
GrassWhopper
Love it.
Feel free, my friend!
Do you want flies with that?
Have a lice day!
Soz, couldn’t resist…
Do you want flies with that?
Hahaha! I’m lovin’ it.
Lol, I saw what you did there!
“snookered!”
And deliberately. The intention is to drive as much of the population as possible in to tightly packed cities where they can be more easily “controlled” shall we say.
LOL!
https://www.euronews.com/2022/08/14/uk-to-unseat-champagne-wine-region-due-to-climate-change-finds-study?utm_term=Autofeed&utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Twitter#Echobox=1660470208
The UK could unseat top wine-producing regions Champagne and Burgundy in France due to the effects of climate change, according to a new study.
The Climate Resilience in the UK Wine Sector study found that rising temperatures over the coming years could make Britain a major player in quality wine production.
(Drinking too much of their own product??) Cheers!!
“The Climate Resilience in the UK Wine Sector.”
WTF?
When did this Nonce brigade come in to existence?
My support for the English wine
industry has just taken a massive hit.
https://www.conservativewoman.co.uk/needless-jabs-the-death-penalty-for-thousands/
For those not quite on the page as yet.
LOL I can tell this must be worth a read, so I’ll give it a gander later and get back to you.
Cheers.
You will be on team hux by tomorrow at the latest.
https://rairfoundation.com/germans-must-receive-covid-booster-every-3-months-to-qualify-as-vaccinated-video/
Add this to your reading list, courtesy of BB. This will seal the deal. It is horrific though.
Hey up. I read the two articles. I can’t see this plan in Germany getting off the ground tbh. Its utterly ridiculous and massively OTT. I know the Germans are generally a compliant lot compared to, say, the French, but surely nobody’s so invested in the narrative and that gullible, not to mention so disregarding of basic rights ( inc to bodily autonomy ) and ethics, that they would tolerate this insanity?!
I’ll believe it when I see it. And it does help the citizens that the plonker health minister behind all of these proposals has conveniently ended up getting Covid himself, despite having four of his precious shots. Hardly a great advertisement to encourage citizens to roll up their sleeves every 12 weeks! Hopefully he’ll go for an encore in his performance of stupidity and start Paxlovid just so we can see him get it again, Fauci and Brandon style!
Remember the proposed totalitarian, Nazi-like measures for Germany and Austria fell apart last time before they were even implemented, if memory serves ( mandating the jabs and fining people who didn’t comply was one of them ), so I’m confident some smart judge somewhere over there will put paid to this blatant abuse of human rights. I’m sure they’re not a nation of doormats who will just take this lying down. Here’s hoping. But that minister is a right unhinged dick!
Why have I only come across this site so recently?? An absolute must read for all my Fellow Sceptics. Data has been trawled, cross referenced, questioned & challenged on many fronts in the UK. Poses some very interesting & challenging questions.
https://carolinecoram.substack.com/archive
We keep being told that we’re going to own nothing but are unsure of the mechanism as to how they will achieve it, this video explains it all.
This has long been in the planning. Do what you can to protect your assets peeps.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3gVpyPF0nk8
A useful site explaining the importance of informed consent, how it should be obtained & that it benefits the recipient & the provider of the healthcare intervention. It covers all the NPIs which were imposed as ‘solutions’, the toxic bioweapon injections & provides links to the references for the law or the evidence for & against the NPIs.
https://www.informedconsentmatters.co.uk/
We know that we’ve been lied to by the Establishment the last few years, what about for even longer?
Watch the short video & in the replies there’s a link to more of the guy’s work. The comments are insightful & more questions than answers are raised.
https://twitter.com/ronin19217435/status/1558509245921910786
Keep an eye out on what is happening in Germany, any cumulative adverse effects are going to become evident pretty soon.
https://rairfoundation.com/germans-must-receive-covid-booster-every-3-months-to-qualify-as-vaccinated-video/
My God this is frightening, and horrific. Some of the comments are suggesting Jewish / Communist revenge for WWII.
It is difficult not to conclude that it won’t be long before there is a mass die-off if Germany pushes through three monthly injections. This is insane. An illness with an IFR of 0.15% and people cannot wake up to the genocidal implications of these proposals.
That is so utterly insane and corrupt, especially after all the known evidence, both anecdotal and science-based, that questions the safety and effectiveness of the jabs. If I was to stick my neck out here, I would say that this is the same insanity and mindset that gripped the same country before and during WW2. The fact that ordinary Germans are not out in their hundreds of thousands or even millions against this demonstrates a certain willingness to comply to authority that ruined it before. I can’t remember whether the German state has ever experienced a popular revolt as has happened in many other European countries but if it hasn’t then it sure as hell needs to now. I wonder what Reiner Fuellmich is saying about this. If anything, the German government needs to be changed pronto.
What might vary is the attitude in different states within Germany as well. Some might get away with it, others not. Some may be more sceptical about the government compared with others.
This individual should be nowhere near the levers of power in a free & democratic country. Sadly we no fully know that this country is neither of these.
https://thenationalpulse.com/2022/07/16/company-founded-family-of-uk-prime-minister-frontrunner-is-wef-partner-advocating-for-china-style-digital-identities-currency/
Indeed. When you read an article that discusses cash as a vector of disease it becomes obvious that that the subject under discussion is basically a pack of lies.
https://news.upday.com/uk/uk-is-first-country-to-approve-covid-vaccine-targeting-both-original-strain-and-omicron/?utm_source=upday&utm_medium=referral
Not only are they not easing up they are actually Ramping Up. I forecast a rapid uptick in the mortality stats.
A medic friend of mine, former military MD, runs this site. He knows stuff.
The suggested response to this is on his site.
He’s a really good guy.
Plus caffeine destroys the spike protein!!! Win win for coffee addicts
https://drxmd.com/
Thanks BB. A very interesting site. I have book-marked it. Fortunately I am already taking turmeric, honey and black pepper.
A good start! No creaky joints for you.
Look into some of the other supplements & have them in. With the pushing of the latest type of covid toxic bioweapon injection, we need to protect ourselves from the spike which they will shed.
Prevention is better than cure!
Nice to see some ads on these pages – hope it helps sustain the site
“CBDCS ROLL EVER ON
More and more countries are signing up to go fully digital with their money.
This past week Australia announced they were going to “pilot” a central bank digital currency. Thailand is likewise piloting a retail CBDC by the end of the year, as is Nepal.
Meanwhile in the US a “bipartisan group of lawmakers” wants to pressure the Federal Reserve to take a digital dollar more seriously, talking up the “threat” of the digital yuan.
Just yesterday it was reported that the digital ruble is very much still a thing and may be launched as soon as 2023. More worryingly the report describes how some digital rubles could be “colored” or “targeted”, meaning only usable for specific goods or services.
That’s a dangerous step, reducing currency from a simple guarantor of value to essentially government-issued vouchers.
We’ve covered that danger many times before (in Western nations the term used is “programmability”). Indeed the benefits of programmability were discussed by the Bank of England’s CBDC Summit, the minutes of which were published on Friday.
But whether they call it “programmability”, “targeting” or “coloring” it all amounts to the same thing – massively increased government surveillance and control of your money.”
1984 coming closer.
From the fine people at Off-Guardian
Indeed, Hux, and this is the thing that concerns me the most. Having your own cash in your hand is a freedom we all take for granted. Making it all conveniently digital takes away that freedom. No more money from the tooth fairy for your kids, no £10 note in your birthday card from Gran, no casual labour, no coins for the homeless guy…the list goes on. It is an act of gross arrogance not to put this out for a huge public consultation but just to announce this is what they are going to do. If anything, this is the game changer for the NWO, WEF, or whoever the hell they are. Once they have this and their target of digital IDs for everyone, it really is game over. We must never, ever comply and must resist with every sinew and every cell….. I imagine they are going to try and connect money to germs…this is the way they think. They need a reason to withdraw all cash – that will be the reason. An outbreak of smallpox or something. It really is rather depressing…
Unfortunately, a lot of us are sleepwalking into a trap re that. I don’t mind paying for lots of things via credit card with them turning up on my current account statements, but prefer to pay cash for some. However, these days loads of punters pay by phone to the pubs, e.g. But who hasn’t had the odd job done and paid cash in hand, no paperwork etc, to get the best price?
Paying people in cash and therefore helping them to avoid taxes used to be frowned up. Nowadays I am proud to do my bit and see it as active subversion.
Or exchange of goods for payment
I regularly pay my cleaner in rare breed meat paid for in cash
I’ve paid a local chap in lemon drizzle cakes – warm from the oven – for doing some heavy pruning for me. As he lives alone on a narrow boat with no oven, just his wood burner to cook on, he was chuffed to bits.
https://www.globalresearch.ca/selected-articles-world-economic-forum-adviser-claims-planet-no-longer-needs-vast-majority-population/5790151
Ain’t it lovely? Of course Yuvi does not include himself in the ‘not required’ count.
Evil bastards.
Just for a giggle but relevant to the climate change scam
https://twitter.com/TheCynicalHun/status/1558958525866397696
It’s not just the UK with significant increases in all cause mortality.
https://www.euromomo.eu/graphs-and-maps
Spikevax coming to a clinic near you!
https://twitter.com/redrust01/status/1559144056986517507?s=21&t=K0UpIVToSXypbv5rpdI3nw
This is why there is the ramping up of the NHS being in crisis, nothing to do with health at all….
My response to all the NHS issues? I’ve been weaning myself off my prescription meds, consulted a herbalist & am addressing the underlying causes of my symptoms. The People’s Health Alliance is growing & has some excellent information to help us help ourselves. As does the World Council for Health.
https://www.uhc2030.org/about-us/uhc2030-partners/
This is the way the WEF is planning to enforce CO2 credit limits & the infrastructure to do so is already in place…
https://threadsirish.substack.com/p/have-you-any-idea-how-your-carbon
This is all the rage at the moment… Nothing to do with trying to remove the evidence. Obviously.
https://jessicar.substack.com/p/facts-not-aligning-with-your-narrative
Thanks. A good find.
https://threadsirish.substack.com/p/have-you-any-idea-how-your-carbon
Otherwise known in the language du jour as “the theft of the commons.”
In every day English – money for nothing.