Sir Mark Rowley has said claims of “two-tier” policing are “absolute nonsense” and are putting police officers in danger. The Telegraph has more.
The Metropolitan Police Commissioner said the suggestion that some groups were being treated more harshly than others was putting his officers in danger as they policed the violence that has erupted in the wake of the Southport killings.
It comes after Sir Mark was caught on camera grabbing a reporter’s microphone following a question about two-tier policing.
The Government has insisted there is no “two-tier” system – whereby far-Right groups are supposedly dealt with more harshly than protesters on the Left – in Britain.
But some have continued to question the policing of the riots, with Robert Jenrick, the Tory leadership contender, accusing Sir Keir Starmer of not being “as clear as he could be” that some of the disorder on Britain’s streets emanated from “sectarian gangs”.
On Wednesday, responding to allegations that far-Right riots have been dealt with more severely than other recent unrest, Sir Mark told broadcasters: “It’s complete nonsense.
“We have commentators from either end of the political spectrum who like to throw accusations of bias at the police because we stand in the middle, we operate independently under the law without fear or favour.
“And if you’ve got crazy views over there, you don’t like it, and if you’ve got crazy views over there, you don’t like it. We will continue to do that.
“The serious voices who echo those are of more concern to me, because the risk is they legitimise it, and they legitimise the violence that the officers I’m sending on mutual aid today will face on the streets.
“They are putting them at risk by suggesting that any of those officers are going out with any intent other than to operate without fear or favour in protecting communities.”
Worth reading in full.
Those who think the police treat disorder by white people and minorities differently are “crazy”, apparently.
Among the crazies is Times columnist Melanie Phillips, who in a blog post yesterday on ‘Britain’s multicultural disaster‘ (also definitely worth reading in full) summarised some of the “egregious” double standards that are “driving people absolutely wild”:
The Prime Minister, Sir Keir Starmer, speaks as if the only problem is “Right-wing” thuggery. Certainly, that problem has been shockingly evident and should be dealt with. But so too should Muslim and Left-wing thuggery. There have been numerous examples during these riots of Muslim mobs gratuitously attacking white people. Yet Starmer never calls these people “thugs”.
One of the incidents that sparked the current disorder took place at Manchester airport, where a police officer was filmed kicking the head of a Muslim man who was lying prone on the ground. That created understandable outrage and the officer was rightly pulled up on a disciplinary charge. But it took nearly a day before the rest of the video footage was released, revealing that the police had just been viciously attacked, and a female officer’s nose was broken, by a group of Muslim thugs of whom the kicked man was one.
It is the profound sense of injustice and double standards that has finally ignited the already combustible public resentment over race and immigration, and enabled neo-fascist and other agitators to exploit this situation.
Starmer’s strictures against “Right-wing thugs” are in stark contrast to the solidarity he expressed with the Black Lives Matter anti-police, anti-West, anti-white rioters in 2020 who destroyed poor neighbourhoods in Portland, Oregon and elsewhere — and to whom he actually ‘took the knee’ and proudly tweeted the picture.
The double standards go wider and deeper. During those violent BLM riots, liberal commentators earnestly asked what lay behind such black anger. Yet those liberals wouldn’t dream of asking what lies behind the anger of today’s white rioters.
Liberal commentators have claimed that demonstrators screaming for jihad, the destruction of Israel and the murder of Jews on the weekly pro-Gaza hate marches are just a few extremists who shouldn’t tarnish the majority of those demonstrators who are all decent people marching for a worthy cause. Yet the same liberals claim that if any decent people are on the anti-immigrant riots, these are utterly compromised by the participation alongside them of the tattooed thugs performing Nazi salutes.
On those pro-Gaza hate marches, police arrested Jewish counter-demonstrators simply because their very presence was said to be a provocation to the Gaza supporters. Yet in the current disorders, Muslims aren’t being arrested on the grounds that their very presence is a provocation to the anti-immigrant mobs.
But since, according to Rowley, accusing the police of a two-tier response puts officers at risk, such accusations will presumably now need to be banned as dangerous misinformation. Which I imagine would suit Sir Mark Rowley just fine.
Stop Press: John Hayes, the businessman who bravely tackled the Southport knife attacker, has told the BBC that he doesn’t think the rioting has “got anything at all to do with the Southport stabbings” but rather stems from a “strong under-current of discontent for some time about the levels of immigration” which Starmer needs to address as “the cause rather than the symptoms”.
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If you ask the manufacturer of TV’s if his televisions are any good is he going to say “Eh, they are alright I suppose”? If you ask a doctor if the Health Service has deteriorated over the last 20 years is he going to say “Yes you are correct and I am bloody sick of the service we provide patients”? If you ask a parachute salesman if his parachutes are any good he will probably say “Well we haven’t had any complaints so far” (little joke). So if you ask the Chief of Police if his policing is two tier or showing favouritism to certain groups out of political expediency he will point blank DENY IT. ——Do we really expect this guy to start crying into the microphone and admit, “Yes you are right, and I am so sorry for this obvious bias”.
How long did it take for them to admit to institutional racism? Their denial of a two tier operational approach is similarly institution wide.
Didn’t seem to me that “Sir” Mark (Christ how do theses imbeciles get to be a Sir) Mark Rowley “accidentally” grabbed the microphone and threw it to the ground.
Plain as day he should be charged with criminal damage.
I wait with bated breath.
He deliberately grabbed the microphone and threw it on the floor. If I was the reporter I’d take him to Court.
I reported it as a Crime (Criminal Damage) to the MET. Since they don’t “do” two-tier policing and police without “fear or favour” they should, at the very least, investigate the report.
Not holding my breath.
‘Sir’ Mark should hand himself in, after all there’s no two tier policing and this would be a great way to prove it.
The suggestion that two tier policing is not policy is laughable beyond belief. The sheer violence meted out by the police when in front of anti immigration protesters and frequently without provocation is absolutely disgusting. Their absence from the war like scenes in Birmingham yesterday was sickening – cars being attacked on a roundabout and God knows what might have happened if they had dragged people from those cars, a lone man violently beaten in front of a pub where customers had locked themselves in, gangs of muzzies conducting war dances armed with knives, spears and god knows what else, but there is no two tier policing?
You lying so and so’s.
Two tier policing is policy and it is a policy wholly designed to spark civil war.
https://x.com/alexharmstrong/status/1820955763046490390?s=46&t=WTYhxk0oF8tRMHmR3SggdA
https://x.com/thenorfolklion/status/1821194000730353983?s=48&t=z-QEFmo-T7EyF1VraAWbsg
And here is another one.
Where are the “white community leaders?”
The aggressive manner in which he ends this little intro “we will arrest you,” is very disturbing. The ugly bint to his left is the decidedly dodgy Leader of Oldham Council, Arooj Shah.
I’ve seen videos where the Muslims are coming out to give tea and biscuits to the police. They brown-nose each other! Pathetic. The usual rumours are circulating again about some of these Muslim thugs being UN plants and a ”standing army” of immigrants. I’d need more evidence, myself. More than just what John O’Looney says because he doesn’t provide a source, as far as I’m aware, although I wouldn’t put anything past them either. I think there’s ‘agitators’ on both sides though. But look at this;
”Have a group of thugs carrying weapons just chase the police out of town? Those bloody far ri– What? They’re not far right?
Can we even post this now? What about the narrative? Fuck. Shall I take it down? The police are scouring the internet trying to censor the truth.”
https://x.com/CharlieSansom/status/1821263695718314293
And yet another here. Disgusting liars and creeps. What was that about ”policing without fear or favour”, Starmer?
”The Chief Constable of @WMPolice
Craig Guildford opens with a welcome in Arabic, & signs off in Arabic. He is sat in an Islamic centre.
Without a shred of irony he denies the force is delivering two-tier policing.”
https://x.com/DaveAtherton20/status/1821248776893559279
Has anyone been arrested for kicking the living daylights out of the man outside that Birmingham pub? A whole gang or about 20 kicked into him and apparently damaged his liver. This was attempted murder. No “Far Right” were anywhere to be seen.
Re the second clip posted What a measly word salad answer! all you have to do is observe the policeman’s eyes and general demeanour to tell he is covering up the real reason they were hands off with the Muslims – they were scared – plain and simple. They know that if they arrested any of them it would look bad and puncture the narrative that all Muslims are victims who need protecting.
Could someone perhaps enlighten my how criticizing the way the police has handled riots in the past can ‘legitimize’ future riots?
Because it would involve that very dangerous thing – a free and frank exchange of ideas between adults. And we can’t have that, now can we?! Get back in your square, RW!
I think I can offer a better, albeit not a more valid, explanation: Labour politicians plan on utilizing this ‘rioting’ to the max¹ and this includes dividing the population among the usual, simplified political fault lines: You’re either “them” or “us” and when you’re critical of “us”, you must obviousy belong to “them”.
¹ Both Thames Valley Police and Reading Borough Council (Lab) have started a mighty shit stirring exercise in Reading yesterday with the apparent goal of “using hard-hitting emotionalized messaging” to “increase the perceived level of personal threat” among people who are either not white or not English or neither white nor English. Local media organizations (Reading Chronicle) have helpfully amplified this by live reporting in emergency mode despite nothing was happening while blocking residents from commenting on these articles at the same time.
The claim that they don’t operate a two-tier system can only be true as a narrow interpretation of the idea. In reality, do they not always work on a budget, and lists of priorities, available staff etc? Plenty of places where there is more police activity compared with others – which is reasonable up to a point. But see how long you might have to wait to report anything minor that could do with police assistance.
In other words, it’s not two-tier, but on a multi-level variable scale, with an eye on the budget.
I get your point but you have to be blind, dumb and daft to not see it is a two-tier system.
Yeah, they suddenly found themselves on a low budget for BLM but not for anti-lockdown protests. ROFL.
We all watched the videos! He is either incredibly stupid or a liar. My bet is on both. is this the same one who broke a reporters microphone and chucked it on the ground? Why isn’t he on charges?
We all know we live in an anti-white, anti-English country. The videos prove it day after day after day. Muslims were told on a megaphone to hand in their weapons at the Mosque to avoid arrest. White demonstrators were simply charged by the Police.
Last time I checked carrying a knife or machete is a criminal offence. Not according to the Police, as long as you are not white. Try pulling a machete out of your pocket as a white man in front of Police. The same Police who sat in their vans as Muslims trashed a Pub and beat the shit out of a white man.
Absolutely. I’ve shared enough evidence and examples on here now. The jury’s in. Rowley is a massive, lying douchebag, an extremely petulant, unprofessional one at that. But look at this. Is anyone on here surprised? It’s happening, isn’t it? Don’t be posting anything on Facebook, for god’s sake. You’ll get your door kicked in and arrested in your sitting room! No wonder the authoritarians are wanting X banned in the UK;
”The justice system stands ready to deliver the full force of the law to people causing violent disorder in our streets.
We have accelerated the delivery of 500 extra prison places for those involved.”
https://x.com/MoJGovUK/status/1821224817216942181
Blimey, look how they’re cracking down. So now we know why they’re freeing rapists, stabbers and murderers early;
”We do have dedicated police officers who are scouring social media to look for this material, and then follow up with arrests.’
The director of public prosecutions of England and Wales warns that sharing online material of riots could be an offence.”
https://x.com/SkyNews/status/1821178852397477984
Why is it that they call them Far Right Groups but can’t name one Group? Think about it, have you seen any specific Group mentioned in the last 2 weeks? The only one I have seen is “Tommy Robinson, real name … Founder of the English Defence League”.
Why is it that the articles always sneer at “Real name ..” when, surely, they know why he uses a different name to his own? Robinson isn’t even in the country yet it is all his fault. Sorry, but it is all successive Governments fault and it is the fault of the Police with their two faced, two-tier system.
The blood to come in the Civil War is purely and totally down to the Police and the Politicians. Just the same as the deaths of children at Manchester Arena and the deaths in Southport are on their hands.
Hear hear.
I’m ‘far-right’. The more people that openly say they’re ‘far-right’ the more ridiculous their silly little insult looks. It’ll start to look like exactly what it is – childish, playground, name-calling.
I’m proud to be a Far Right grandad of 7. Never been on a protest in my life. Never been arrested. Mostly voted Conservative but have been a Reform member since it started. If Far Right means anything it means telling the truth. One of my best friends is Iranian, has a better suntan than me but he is also Far Right.
Most of our friends are in their sixties and seventies, pretty much all of them are Far Right. Indeed, 80% of the electorate must be Far Right because they didn’t vote for a Marxist liar who is out of his depth.
Telegraph – you’re talking ball locks. It’s not the ‘far Right bring dealt with more harshly than the Left’, it’s EVERYONE who *isn’t* progressive/hard Left being dealt more harshly than EVERYONE who *is* progressive/hard Left.
This is absolutely disgraceful. Basically the police in Birmingham bailed, a dereliction of duty admission here. I saw one police car swiftly driving away in a car park as a large mob of Muslims approached, then that was it, the Muslims took over and ran amok, as I’m sure we’ve all seen by now. But we’re meant to believe Rowley’s pathetic denial of reality now?
”British police admit Birmingham, England’s second city, was essentially abandoned to a violent Muslim mob on Monday because “community leaders” told them in advance that their demonstration would be “policed within themselves.”“[W]e have really strong business and community relations, and… we had the opportunity to meet with community leaders [before the demonstration] to kind of understand the style of policing that we needed to deliver,” said Superintendent Emlyn Richards, for West Midlands Police.
Journalists who were chased from the area by aggressive, armed Muslims “for miles” described the “style of policing” on the day as officers simply surrendering the streets to the mob, which besieged a pub and violently assaulted a customer seemingly for no other reason than that he was a white person in Birmingham.“[W]e knew that there was going to be a lot of people out on that counter-protest, we knew who the vast majority of those people were,” claimed Superintendent Richards, revealing the “policing response was commensurate to that intelligence and the information that we’d held [sic] with our partners and communities prior to that event taking place.”
https://thenationalpulse.com/2024/08/07/cops-admit-they-abandoned-englands-second-city-to-muslim-mob-because-community-leaders-said-demo-would-be-policed-within-themselves/
Tonight’s “risk” of confrontation between the hypothetical “far-right thuggery” and the orchestrated “refugees welcome” seems be an abstract concept ripe for spin and mis-interpretation by all concerned, especially the press and the Government nudge unit. It is reminiscent of the manipulation of crowd numbers and behaviour during the Freedom Marches during The Lockdown.
Well done to Will Jones, DS & Leo Kearse for the “Stop Press”. Here’s also a link to a Breitbart article on it, and some comments from the public:
Mass Stabbing Hero Says Starmer Must Address Immigration Concerns (breitbart.com)
Wat Tyler said,
“I know this guy is well-intentioned, but he just doesn’t understand.
The reality is simple.
The English are in the way.
“They’re in the way of the Third World settler-colonialists of the replacement population that the Globalist regime in Westminster are importing by the million as part of the Grεat Rεplacεmεnt. The English can either go quietly to the shower blocks, as another group of people did eighty years ago, or if not, they will be smashed down.
“Any English who dare to protest against the Grεat Rεplacεmεnt, or any of its consequences, such as what happened in Southport, will be smashed into submission. The Globalist regime in Westminster will not tolerate any opposition to the Grεat Rεplacεmεnt from the English.”
Ancient Briton said,
“Labour intends to import a minimum of 5 million Africans and Muslims over the next five years, and nothing and nobody is going to stop them.
The survival of the Labour Party is at stake.”
Mass immigration has destroyed the Britain I knew.
David Starkey
https://youtu.be/bwD3zn5nA5I?si=7oY31RuKd1N4D4gR
A week or so before the election, the BBC enthusiastically reported that if Labour won, they would hold an enquiry into the “Battle of Orgreave” in 1985, during the Miners’ strike.
Curious, I thought, Labour have had plenty of opportunity over 40 years to do just that.
Those who remember the “battle” will no doubt also remember the “Hillsborough” riots where, after many years an enquiry into the policing, led by the very same senior police officers, went in favour of the Scousers.
Still no Orgreave Inquiry. So why is our Beloved Beeb, so delighted with every pit closure and thermal power station blown up, banging on about the Battle of Orgreave now, at election time.
Just one of those funny coincidences, I suppose.
I haven’t heard anything more about the enquiry, this week. I wonder why not?
How relieved we must all be that all the excitable claims of 30 Far-Right terrorist riots proved to be slightly exaggerated and peace and loving harmony reigned Supreme.
How kind of Socialist Worker to print all those little placards extolling how welcome every single one of those lovely refugees would be. They were waved about whilst a kind and thoughtful banner was carried along, obviously by animal lovers, saying something like “Let the Pigs devour the Gammons”. How inclusive and community affection based can you get?
Certainly, whilst the ITV presenters were a bit disappointed not to be able to demonstrate those far right thugs at their very most terrorising, the TV folk were happy to see all the vibrant and jolly folk having such fun.
Good also to see those naughty Far Right Thugs already off for a stretch of porridge after, I have no doubt, experiencing British Justice at its very best. Perhaps they will be allowed, just like Tommy Robinson, to have a cell on the prison wing where they keep those vibrant and exciting multicultural lads.
By the way, can anyone remember enough French to explain what “Agents Provocateurs” means? I think it must be someone cheekily dressed, perhaps like those rainbow painted coppers dancing their saucy little dances?
Superb post. It’s staggering that racial insults referring to skin colour are considered “hate speech” in all cases except when referring to Ethnic Europeans = “white people”, now called “Gammons” for the pinkish-white colour of their skin. Those same Marxists carrying placards against “Racists” are also carrying placards with Racist Insults.
Awful news about Keir Starmer using “special powers in terrorist cases” to stop all the welfare benefits of the British Patriots protesting and convicted. It seems he’s using the Communist Playbook of “Starve Them into Submission”, and Indian commenters are already gloating about this.
Of course, no welfare benefits will ever be denied to any Third World ethnic person in the UK, regardless of how many murders or rapes they commit. And there is precious little chance of any Third World criminals ever being deported.
“The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command.”
George Orwell, 1984.
Who shall we believe Cur Mark or our own lying eyes?