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On Southport: Why Censorship is the Enemy

by Claire Fox
1 August 2024 3:00 PM

Like the nation, I felt physically sick and repulsed as news emerged of the butchery of children in Southport on Monday – and outraged at the riot the following day.

The sheer contrast of the innocence of little girls enjoying a Taylor Swift-themed dance club at the start of a sunny summer holiday with the malevolence of a 17 year-old man brutally robbing three girls of their lives and injuring more was deeply upsetting. For many people, the shock of it gave way to both despondency and pure rage. How could this happen in the U.K. in 2024? And yet, it somehow seemed less of a shock in the context where many feel that lawlessness is becoming the norm – that the police, politicians and mainstream commentators seem either indifferent to society spiralling out of control or are powerless to prevent it.

Worse, attempts at a frank discussion about what is going wrong are regularly muted by labelling people’s raw responses of fury and frustration as some variant of extremist bigotry or by accusing them of stoking up those infamous culture wars. So, the particularly harrowing aspect of children being the target of such extreme violence has acted as a lightning rod for all sorts of pent-up fears and fury; an understandable refusal to calm down, be dignified, not to worry our pretty little heads while those in charge sort it out with their platitudes and new repressive laws.

The subsequent malevolent and destructive riot in Southport has muddied the situation further. Most of us looked for some consoling sense of hope in the aftermath of the tragedy, such as the awe-inspiring bravery of ordinary passersby and those heroic dance teachers defending their pupils (so well captured by Fraser Myers here), or the community coming together in an act of poignant solidarity at a thousands-strong vigil on Tuesday evening.

But then, I started to notice some bad faith actors circulating ugly rumours about the 17-year-old perpetrator being a Muslim asylum seeker (with no evidence whatsoever) alongside calls for vengeance at what was called a “protest” at a local mosque. We then all witnessed the chaotic scenes of brick throwing, car-burning, police-under-siege chaos. Those same seaside town streets lived in by a community still trying to process an act of savagery were trashed by yobs who seemed to be revelling in the occasion, rather than expressing the nation’s anger. 

But yes, I know, it’s more complicated than that. So here are a few examples of the double standards that make this issue tricky.

On policing: When the recent Harehills riot occurred in Leeds, there was justifiable public outrage that the police seemed to retreat from the scene. Too often, when disorder is taking place – from Just Stop Oil’s anti-social destruction of property to the rampant anti-Semitism on many pro-Gaza demos, from mass shoplifting to the grooming gangs scandal, from normalised machete fights to increased sexual assaults – the police appear to look away. But for once, in Southport, the police heroically charged at danger to apprehend the knifeman and rightly aimed to control a volatile riot. Despite this, the response from too many has been to cheer on as officers were injured and the target of violence. How can that help restore order?

On controlling our streets: The queues of politicians lining up to condemn the Southport riot compares poorly with more mealy-mouthed reactions to the equally nihilistic and violent Harehills riot in Leeds. The full force of the law needs to be equally applied but rarely is. What’s more, in my contribution in the Lords to the King’s Speech on criminal justice – labelled by Keir Starmer as Labour’s “Take Back Control of our Streets” policy – I was the sole voice to speak on events in Leeds. I was also one of a small few to raise the frightening levels of violent, abusive, misogynistic, antisemitic intimidation faced by some candidates in the General Election from organised gangs of Gaza activists and Islamists.

Government Ministers didn’t even bother to reply. So, when Angela Rayner proclaims that “thuggish behaviour” has “absolutely no place in our democracy” after violent scenes in the Merseyside town, we might ask why some thuggish behaviour matters more than others.

On identity politics: There is seething public resentment about the fact that identitarians regularly deploy skin colour and ethnicity to demonise the majority of U.K. citizens for their “white privilege”, divisively pitted against minority “victims” who need special protection. But for a few white nationalists to exploit the horrors of Southport for their own opportunistic power grab is just as sordid and grubby, and benefits no one.

On speech: Identity politics is one effective way that those in charge fence-off open debate on everything from immigration to the growing hold of radical, politicised Islamism. And as it’s become fashionable to promiscuously demonise opponents as far-Right hate mongers – from gender-critical feminists to free-speech supporting academics – any meaningful discussion of real bigotry becomes muted and muddled. And as a minority opportunistically leap on the Southport tragedy to push a racialised agenda that targets people for no other reason than their ethnicity, we need to be free to call this out publicly with no apology. However, it is equally true that when the public are told you can’t say that, or ask that, because it may offend a particular identity group, it results in millions feeling frustrated that issues are brushed under the carpet.

It should be acceptable to ask if undocumented young men arriving on small boats present a threat; to raise worries about immigrant communities that seem unwilling to integrate into British society; to query if there is a relationship between Islamists pledging support for Hamas and Islam as a religion. All these are legitimate questions, and should be the subject of open debate. For the authorities to try and close down discussion is a disaster.

On gaslighting: Indeed, the public are constantly ‘gaslit’ by authorities, told to ignore the evidence of our own eyes. There’s “nothing to see here”. Those who wanted to be righteously angry about the Manchester Arena bombing or the murder of Sir David Amess MP are told to repress public outrage and mourn quietly. Those who asked about the brutal slaying of a Hartlepool pensioner or the contradictory accounts of recent events at Manchester Airport are told to shush and calm down. And if you dare worry about terrorism when a soldier is knifed in broad daylight, you are treated as some sort of threat to civil order for raising your concerns. Yet, in reality, there has been a collapse of civility and order in society and official attempts at controlling information about such incidents creates suspicion and a further breakdown of trust.

On repression: Forcing difficult issues out of the public square to bubble under the surface only allows them to fester. People end up retreating down conspiratorial ‘rabbit holes’, until eventually they erupt in an unruly and unholy manner, as we are witnessing this week. And yet, silencing, gaslighting and repression are the only political weapons the political elite feels at home with. The Home Secretary, Yvette Cooper, is said to “be looking at” whether the English Defence League (EDL) should be proscribed under terrorism laws following the riot, while cabinet ministers and their Antifa cheerleaders are falling over themselves to call for the strengthening of the Online Safety Act, with greater clampdowns on disinformation online following false reports about the perpetrator’s identity.

That the only solutions to the horrifying events in Southport are more bans and censorship is more likely to fuel new depths of anger and resentment – far more than any hard-Right memes. It will also give far more glamour and credit to the decrepit EDL and its supporters by pretending it is they – and only they – who are responsible for the febrile mood of betrayal felt by millions, let down by the Westminster bubble, regardless of which party is in power. As I write this on Wednesday evening, crowds are gathering at Downing Street and Hartlepool as copycat skirmishes break out.

These are serious times, and it can be challenging to discuss difficult issues with so much at stake. Nuance and context can easily get lost in the noise. But we must persevere. Discussing events in Southport with Mike Graham and Tim Montgomerie on Talk TV on Wednesday, I felt I was walking on eggshells, wary of misspeaking. Sure enough, I was labelled from all sides as “centrist mum” and “controlled opposition” by the ‘deport them all’ side; “far-Right, racist enabler” by the ‘multiculturalism is sacrosanct’ brigade. But we need to have these conversations, and thrash them out frankly, to pursue thinking out loud, to try and avoid simplistic sloganeering and screaming at each other. We need to dig deeper than headlines or tweets. We will aim to do so at the Battle of Ideas festival, which we are programming now. Below are just a few articles that are insightful at unravelling a fast-moving mood, with decades of deep, tangled roots. 

  • Fraser Myers, ‘In praise of Southport’s heroes‘, Spiked, July 30th 2024
  • Brendan O’Neill, ‘Condemning the Southport riot is not enough‘, Spectator, July 31st 2024
  • Ben Sixsmith, ‘Southport and the inescapability of politics‘, Critic, July 31st 2024
  • Tom Slater, ‘Southport and the deadly cowardice of the elites‘, Spiked, July 31st 2024
  • Rakib Ehsan, ‘Southport attack has been exploited by conspiracists‘, UnHerd, July 31st 2024

Baroness Claire Fox is a free speech and democracy campaigner, member of the House of Lords and founder of the Academy of Ideas. This article first appeared on the Academy’s Substack page.

Tags: Academy of IdeasCensorshipFar RightImmigrationRiotsSouthport

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Mogwai
Mogwai
9 months ago

Blimey, you couldn’t get more of a contrast in policing here when compared with Harehills though, could you? And we all know why: ethnicity. If this guy was being a bit lairy they could’ve just pepper sprayed him if he didn’t listen to a warning first time. Instead look what they did. This is in Hartlepool;

https://x.com/DANNYUNFILTERED/status/1818931151899083019

https://x.com/DaveAtherton20/status/1818939166253543513

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huxleypiggles
huxleypiggles
9 months ago
Reply to  Mogwai

When the fuller version of the Manchester Airport video was released I believed that the boot copper was in the right. To a degree I still believe that. However, after looking at some utterly disgraceful thuggery by the police in managing the recent demonstrations I have to say my sympathy has wained.

If the Manchester copper loses his job and has his life turned inside out perhaps his colleagues nationally will come to realise that two-tier policing can hit them too.

My sympathy for the police has always been minimal, right now I have none. Yes, I know they are being used but surely there are some within the ranks with the cojones to speak out?

I know the intention is to start a civil war and enforce more lockdowns but ultimately I believe an uprising will be the only solution.

Whatever happens the Davos Deviants are determined to start a war or wars come what may. Bliar must be loving this.

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Mogwai
Mogwai
9 months ago
Reply to  huxleypiggles

Yes, I agree. I understand the police have to just follow orders but I don’t think I could set aside my own personal feelings and principles and behave as a total automaton. It makes you wonder how they rationalize what they’re doing to largely peaceful members of the public and what they talk about to their families when they get home after another shift of wrongfully arresting and battering their fellow citizens. The things I’ve seen I just feel confident prison officers probably use less brute force in their day to day working lives when compared to many of these police officers. Their behaviour is just horrendous, but Stanley Milgram showed us what was possible decades ago.
Anyway, we’re being ”managed”( read: manipulated ) as this article that’s a few years old now makes clear;

”The British government has prepared for terrorist incidents by pre-planning social media campaigns which are designed to appear to be a spontaneous public response to attacks, Middle East Eye has learned.
Hashtags are carefully tested before attacks happen, Instagram images selected, and “impromptu” street posters are printed.
In operations that contingency planners term “controlled spontaneity”, politicians’ statements, vigils and inter-faith events are also negotiated and planned in readiness for any terrorist attack.

Within hours of an incident, campaigns are swiftly organised, with I “heart” posters designed and distributed according to the location of the attack. Plans are also drawn up for people to hand out flowers at the scene of the crime, in apparently unprompted gestures of love and support.
The purpose of the operations, according to a number of people involved in their creation who spoke to MEE, is to shape public responses, encouraging individuals to focus on empathy for the victims and a sense of unity with strangers, rather than reacting with violence and anger.”

https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/mind-control-secret-british-government-blueprints-shaping-post-terror-planning

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huxleypiggles
huxleypiggles
9 months ago
Reply to  Mogwai

The article is now out of date Mogs. Yes we are being managed but the emphasis now is on provoking the population into violent action and if the population / demonstrators don’t want to engage in violent protest the police clearly have orders to batter them until they do.

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Mogwai
Mogwai
9 months ago
Reply to  huxleypiggles

Yep, I said it’s a few years old but I’d argue still relevant. It’s all about appeasement and going soft on the ”you know who” perma-victims in society. Look how they emphasise time and again this child-murderer is a ”boy originally from Cardiff”. They don’t even use the word ”youth”, which would be the accurate term, or even ”young man”. We must think of him as a child and a native one at that. The Rwanda link is omitted from the police’s original statement and most of MSM.
Now imagine how different things would’ve been had a white native lad gone and murdered a load of Muslim kids. Would we have seen the same level of police overreach and brutality against the baying Muslims who would inevitably ( and rightfully ) riot? Well not if Harehills is anything to go by. It’s ironic that most of the police officers are white but they’ve already decided who their targets will be: fellow whites.

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Richard Austin
Richard Austin
9 months ago
Reply to  Mogwai

This same “Child” would have been able to vote under Starmers plan. So, where does “Child” end and “Grown Up Responsibility” begin? In this case 5 days after the crime.
Don’t tell me it was an accident he committed murder before he could be tried as an adult and spend the rest of his life in jail. He’ll be out in 12 max.

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Richard Austin
Richard Austin
9 months ago
Reply to  huxleypiggles

Totally agree. Who else remembers the end of the lockdown protest on a sunny afternoon in a park? The protestors were standing and sitting around, someone had quiet music playing. No trouble all afternoon and the Police came wading in. They were driven back by a peaceful locked arms wall.
Then the Police sent in the military style Police and they charged into peaceful people, batons swinging. What were Police doing a few streets away where buildings were being damaged and statues pulled down? Watching from afar.

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Neiltoo
Neiltoo
9 months ago
Reply to  huxleypiggles

There are many problems with many police forces in the UK, usually with the management of the forces but if the mob ever comes to your door who will you call?

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SimCS
SimCS
9 months ago
Reply to  huxleypiggles

Until political control of policing ends, this situation will continue. Oh, politicians will say that they don’t interfere in operational policing matters, but it’s the unwritten policies emanating from a succession of pro-multiculturalist politicians and minsters (from all sides) that is the undercurrent and driving force. Multiculturalism is a failed experiment, and one that should never have been conducted. Like all these experiments, the potential of huge unforeseen circumstances were just too great, and were even warned against, but no, politicians ploughed on through regardless. We now suffer the consequences. Clocks don’t turn backwards!

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Ron Smith
Ron Smith
9 months ago

“17 year-old man” Oh but you have to call him a child…UN definition of anyone under 18. They just magically turn into an adult by the strike of midnight on their 18th birthday.

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LwM
LwM
9 months ago
Reply to  Ron Smith

He’s 18 next week as it happens.

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RTSC
RTSC
9 months ago
Reply to  Ron Smith

Yes. When he carried out these murders he was, apparently, just a few days short of his 18th birthday …. so legally he’s a child.

Meanwhile, Labour intends to give the vote to children who are almost two years younger than this violent thug.

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V Detta
V Detta
9 months ago
Reply to  Ron Smith

The judge ruled that reporting restrictions on his identity could be lifted and his name has been released. This decision was on the (unusually) rational thought that as he was nearly 18 and that keeping it under wraps would only cause more speculation and unrest.

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Ron Smith
Ron Smith
9 months ago

I don’t agree with just going crazy and attacking the Police in pure rage, but the Government & Whitehall with their Globalist overlords are the ones to blame. The right need to adopt Leftist tactics, I’ve said this before that they are better at getting together and organising. Blocking the RNLI Boats or rendering them useless would be much better. The more the better, can’t just have a few, they will just be picked off by the Police.

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JXB
JXB
9 months ago
Reply to  Ron Smith

Perhaps if the police had knelt…

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Free Lemming
Free Lemming
9 months ago

“Like the nation, I felt physically sick and repulsed as news emerged of the butchery of children in Southport on Monday – and outraged at the riot the following day.”

No, there should be no outrage. It matters not one iota whether he was a refugee or an x generation immigrant, what matters is that he is an immigrant. Full stop. This overly softly, softly, attitude is one of the prices people, including children, are paying with their lives for the feminisation of society. Enough is enough. Something must be done. No more talking and sighing.

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Neiltoo
Neiltoo
9 months ago
Reply to  Free Lemming

How many generations before someone isn’t an immigrant?

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Free Lemming
Free Lemming
9 months ago
Reply to  Neiltoo

Yawn. When the person that immigrates accepts the culture they are migrating into. Next (refer again to the tired, old Guardian arguments for your next question). And while you’re knocking one off to your own virtue, you’re dumbly complicit in the murder of children. Still, as long as you feel good when you lay your virtuous head on the pillow; that’s what’s important right?

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Neiltoo
Neiltoo
9 months ago
Reply to  Free Lemming

That’s quite a rant based on a simple question.

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Free Lemming
Free Lemming
9 months ago
Reply to  Neiltoo

Bit it’s not “a simple question” is it? It’s exactly the same tired old sh*t, rolled out again and again, that’s allowed the left to dominate and destroy society. The same cr*p that’s allowed the focus to shift away from the murder of children, and towards the victimhood of immigrants. You, and others like you, prop up a malevolent system with your “simple questions” which serve no other purpose than to caress your own ego. Maybe some of us are sick to the back teeth of all the usual virtue-signalling that costs children their lives.

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Richard Austin
Richard Austin
9 months ago
Reply to  Free Lemming

I have to say I agree. at one time it was a simple question with a simple answer. Immigrant moves to an area, gets to know people, proves his worth and is accepted into society.
Today, we are told we must change. I had an interesting conversation with some Iranian friends who came here to live with us, as part of us, to leave Iran and Islam far behind. They are incensed by others who come here and insist on everyone else changing. The wife is particularly vehement on this. She believes that all immigrants should come here with the intention of adapting to our culture, speaking our language, adopting our culture.

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Free Lemming
Free Lemming
9 months ago
Reply to  Richard Austin

And, once upon a time, that was the expectation – a trade of values for a home. Now, however, the expectation is that the indigenous population trade their values for a catalogue of societal and economic problems. On top of that we get the usual eejits asking “simple questions” that attempt to silence/ridicule dissent. I’m absolutely sick of these people.

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Neiltoo
Neiltoo
9 months ago
Reply to  Free Lemming

And another rant. You know nothing about me, my beliefs or my opinions. You’re high on your outrage – an outrage which is justified but if you let it control you, it will probably have the opposite effect that you hope for.

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Free Lemming
Free Lemming
9 months ago
Reply to  Neiltoo

“You know nothing about me…”

Oh yes I do. I see you people everywhere. I see you as clearly as I see myself in the mirror. You showed yourself with your silly little question. I need no more than that to know who you are.

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Neiltoo
Neiltoo
9 months ago
Reply to  Free Lemming

I’ll leave you to the voices in your head.

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Richard Austin
Richard Austin
9 months ago
Reply to  Free Lemming

Far from being enraged I was somewhat encouraged that so many ordinary people were venting what needs to be said. Government has to take back our country or we will do it ourselves.

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iconoclast
iconoclast
9 months ago
Reply to  Richard Austin

That is probably what the people behind destabilising our country want. Then the entire political system will change overnight with martial law as the rioters are crushed.

As Manchester airport demonstrates, the police have been practising kicking the proles in the head like footballs.

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JXB
JXB
9 months ago

“… bad faith actors circulating ugly rumours about the 17-year-old perpetrator being a Muslim asylum seeker (with no evidence whatsoever)…”

Because there was no evidence whatsoever he was not. That’s the problem.

Whenever there is an attack of this nature – common place these days – the perpetrator apparently is of no known, race, no known religion, no known origin, no known motive, in fact nothing is known about him.

Over days and weeks, little bits of detail are dribbled out and it turns out he is: Muslim, asylum seeker, known to MI5/police, etc.

So why wouldn’t rumours he was a Muslim not gain traction, experience shows police silence usually means he is, because on the other hand when a White person is involved in some attack this is immediately released, as is his motive ‘racially motivated’, and member of/links with a Far-Right group? Supposedly.

Maybe the correct procedure would be for the police to break a habit and tell the truth, be open with us.

Already the riots are branded as ‘racist’ but Islam is not a race, it’s a culture. Culture is not defined by race – to say it is is racist. Conflating race with culture allows the Government to ‘crack-down’ on any who complain about cultural erosion. Racism is the weapon of choice to silence dissent about immigration.

We are seeing the start of the inevitable cultural conflict that always happens when cultures mix in a confined space.

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huxleypiggles
huxleypiggles
9 months ago
Reply to  JXB

A quality comment 👌

In complete agreement.

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Free Lemming
Free Lemming
9 months ago
Reply to  JXB

A little pernickety, but Islam isn’t a culture either – it’s a religion which demands a set of beliefs. The people that adhere to that set of beliefs could be defined as a culture or, maybe more accurately in the case of many/most Muslims, a cult.

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JohnK
JohnK
9 months ago
Reply to  Free Lemming

And within Islam there are cults that disagree with each other, such as the Sunnis and Shiites, and a ragbag of smaller denominations within those two. Similar to Christianity, to some extent.

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Free Lemming
Free Lemming
9 months ago
Reply to  JohnK

Kind of. I’d argue that modern Christianity isn’t hell-bent on bending the world to their will and doesn’t view women as second class citizens who are nothing more than birthing machines, and don’t want to murder anyone who disagrees. So, yes and no.

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DrDan
DrDan
9 months ago
Reply to  JXB

We know that whenever these incidents occur and the name or the description of the assailant is not released there is a reason. No wonder people believed the rumours. I think Melanie Phillips captures the issues better than Fox – Murder, machetes and mobs in Britain – Melanie Phillips (substack.com)

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Richard Austin
Richard Austin
9 months ago
Reply to  JXB

Look at the crime: Taylor Swift is know for raunchy shows, skimpy clothes, being sexy. Little girls imitating her were the target. Which Religion Of Peace hates women and girls apart from the Socialists? Which religion has history for attacking little girls? Which religion wants all women and girls dressed as Black Bins?

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huxleypiggles
huxleypiggles
9 months ago

“But for a few white nationalists to exploit the horrors of Southport for their own opportunistic power grab is just as sordid and grubby, and benefits no one.”

A cheap and lazy comment. I dare say those of us filling Trafalgar Square on Saturday were all “white nationalists” eh?

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JXB
JXB
9 months ago
Reply to  huxleypiggles

And the organiser was a terrorist and arrested.

“White nationalists”. I wonder what their sin is, being white or having a national identity they wish to preserve?

Both I suppose.

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huxleypiggles
huxleypiggles
9 months ago
Reply to  JXB

The video were Tommy discusses his arrest on terrorism charges is really spooky.

T. ‘Why am I being charged under the Terrorism Act? What terrorism have I committed?

Plod. ‘You haven’t committed any terrorist offences but that’s what we’ve been told to arrest you under.’

And so the farce continues for six hours. Conveniently for Plod because he was arrested on terrorism charges they had the authority to seize his mobile phone.

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Ron Smith
Ron Smith
9 months ago
Reply to  huxleypiggles

Funny that….David Icke was warning about the abuse of terrorist powers over 15 years ago.

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Claphamanian
Claphamanian
9 months ago
Reply to  huxleypiggles

But it does benefit the government.

They can use these violent disorders to impose more restrictive laws, as Claire Fox observes here.

This cohort of flag-wearers are a gift. As Claire Fox says, everyone expressing outrage over these murders can be tarred with the same brush. These stone-throwers and looters demean the memory of the children who were just enjoying some innocent fun.

Yet it’s hardly surprising if people’s first thoughts turn to Islamist terrorism when the idiot boy who attacked the children and their parents at the Manchester Arena, who were also only enjoying innocent entertainment, was motivated to do so by the deaths of children in Syria which were caused by American-led intervention in the war.

These people causing these violent attacks on police and looting are political imbeciles.

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Ron Smith
Ron Smith
9 months ago
Reply to  Claphamanian

Saw on GBN Starmer has just done a speech referring to “mobile thugs”….Yup just blame the reaction not the cause, but as Hux mentioned, it plays into the totalitarian handbook.

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Nicholas Britton
Nicholas Britton
9 months ago

What is the point of proscribing a defunct organisation (EDL) that disbanded about 9 years ago? Ah, I get it, they want people to think it is still active and that anyone who has concerns about mass migration is a member of it. Just more gaslighting

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huxleypiggles
huxleypiggles
9 months ago
Reply to  Nicholas Britton

I have seen a video posted to twitter I believe in which Mr T. Robinson declares that the English Defence League ceased to exist “a decade ago.”

Lazy commentary and outright gaslighting. So ordinary, upset, angry, outraged people cannot vent their feelings without accepting that to do so will condemn them to acknowledge that they are in fact just “far right scum.”

Why are the likes of Just Stop Oil, Extinction Rebellion, Black Lives Matter and the seriously dangerous Hope not Hate never referred to as “far left scum,” because that is what they are?

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Ron Smith
Ron Smith
9 months ago
Reply to  huxleypiggles

I remember the Hills Restaurant at Brecon had a big BLM poster in 2020. Thought to myself, what a bunch of virtue signalling wankers. Not only that but the food is bloody pricy too. So anyone passing through that area, you’ve been warned. Free travel advice there!

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Jeff Chambers
Jeff Chambers
9 months ago

How could this happen in the U.K. in 2024?

Because our Establishment – our rulers – regard the English people as the enemy. Which is why we are being replaced at such a frantic pace. Which is why we must not be allowed to protest our replacement, or the criminal elements doing the replacing, or the attacks on us and our children.

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huxleypiggles
huxleypiggles
9 months ago
Reply to  Jeff Chambers

👍 👍 👍

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Freddy Boy
Freddy Boy
9 months ago

Our Piglet WEF Tri Lateral Chunt Sir Kneel Has just laid the groundwork for our own 1984 life going forward !!

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Ron Smith
Ron Smith
9 months ago
Reply to  Freddy Boy

The King must’ve missed that bit in his speech. Funny how that always seems to happen.

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huxleypiggles
huxleypiggles
9 months ago
Reply to  Freddy Boy

Indeed.

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Ron Smith
Ron Smith
9 months ago

Look how Mr spying on journalists 77 Brigade Ellwood takes the moral high ground to Nigel Farage:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=10Jnztqs3vg

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Ron Smith
Ron Smith
9 months ago

SteynOnline Podcast. Just heard he lost the case against the state censor Ofcom. There is a rather disturbing photo next to his podcast with no reference to what it is.
https://www.steynonline.com/14506/diversity-in-the-gullet

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varmint
varmint
9 months ago

The reason this happens is because the Liberal Progressive Virus has spread all over the western world. To the Liberal Progressive that puts Social Engineering first and people second with their mamby pamby no discipline, no punishment social justice, all crime can be engineered away with “education” or with “rehabilitation” and all that happens is criminality increases because there are no boundaries. We have goons raiding shops and filling up their rucksacks knowing nobody will intervene. We have groups of ferals rampaging with machetes, stabbings, shootings armed robbery, and societal breakdown like never before with sectarian clutter in all major cities. ———-There is only one true justice —EQUAL JUSTICE.

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CircusSpot
CircusSpot
9 months ago

Events move so fast that it was hard to believe it was less than one month ago that the lefties in the US and U.K. were openly wishing the bullet had not missed, and that Trump had been killed.
If you preach violence do not be amazed when it comes back to bite you.

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RW
RW
9 months ago

But for a few white nationalists to exploit the horrors of Southport for their own opportunistic power grab

The only opportunistic political exploitation of this event (I’m aware of) was droves of labour MPs trying to hang the riots on Nigel Farage. The rioters themselve just rioted or rather, as they almost certainly believed, fought back against a system which is happy with children being murdered by knife-wielding “second generation immigrants” — Routine police operation ma’am, noting to see here! — but extremely fired up the moment white working-class people do anything in public, be it only peacefully marching somewhere with England flags. As Tommy Robinson (probably) put it: These people are scared (“feel threatened”) and angry and feel entirely left alone with that and their anger is very much justified as they are getting short shrift.

Patronizing snobbery by urbanites “with an educashun” is not going to fix that. Trying to understand that these are also just people, with all their complexities, emotional fragilities and error-proneness and not comic book villains might help. At least, this would be a start.

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huxleypiggles
huxleypiggles
9 months ago
Reply to  RW

Hear, hear. 👍

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Claphamanian
Claphamanian
9 months ago

Are the Far-right neurodivergent?

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huxleypiggles
huxleypiggles
9 months ago

Off-T

https://order-order.com/2024/08/01/live-starmer-conference-on-southport-and-aftermath/

Kneel going full stasi.

Is this when the soldier age illegals are mobilised?

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Insurrectionist
Insurrectionist
9 months ago
Reply to  huxleypiggles

Very accurate exposure of the British Israel lobby…
Guess who bankrolled Starmers election campaign….

https://youtu.be/1ahlBTd6ZxI?si=hBJGacTMNUhfkHql

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Insurrectionist
Insurrectionist
9 months ago

…

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Heretic
Heretic
9 months ago
Reply to  Insurrectionist

Brilliant!

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Jack the dog
Jack the dog
9 months ago

Very grown up and mature I’m sure but personally as the Italians say “mi sono rotto il cazzo” and I’m on the side of the rioters.

Facts and decency don’t matter to the globalists so wtf should care?

My country has been destroyed and I’ve had enough, totally. Utterly.

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Heretic
Heretic
9 months ago
Reply to  Jack the dog

Spot on. Here are some honest DM comments backing you up:

—“It’s not about religion – people have had enough of unfettered immigration both legal and illegal – the murders in Southport just acted like a spark on a tinder box – the two are not really connected – if it hadn’t been this it would have been another incident which sparked it – it was going to happen and has been brewing for some time – ordinary, law abiding, tax paying citizens have had enough of being treated as cash cows and second class in their own country.”

—“As long as our “leaders” refuse to put a stop to mass, uncontrolled, unchecked immigration & as long as they continue to put their own people at risk by letting the dregs of the world in, then the Far Right will grow & grow. They are turning once tolerant people against foreigners. It’s the governments fault.”

—“Sadly the politicians have deliberately ignored the majority of people who actually employ them to manage their country. They have gone against what most people want and in fact disregarded their right to an opinion. Denouncing anyone who has an opinion that is not the same as their authoritarian prejudice view. Look at what is going on in society and ask yourself, have they done a good job ? Sad to see what’s going on. Do the majority of people not have a voice ? Are they not allowed to have some say in what goes on in their country ? It seems they have nothing but disrespect towards the majority. Blame everything but themselves. or maybe they just follow a global elite agenda. Who knows. But whatever it is, its ugly.”

—“There is provocation at all turns. The end game for this government is military rule. As you know, to bring military onto our streets to police us is illegal, it would take a constitutional change through several stages of powers of emergency. Starmer is already going to roll out facial recognition. The more we try to defend ourselves, the worse it gets. Either we do something wholly dramatic, or we had better put up or shut up. No, I am not in alignment with my last statement. What would you have? Do think about all of this very carefully, because lone groups will be made an example of, and will be used for the aforementioned end goal.”

—“The threat from immigration is clearly plain for all to see– first, second generation, makes no difference, we need an immediate change in policy.”

—“I don’t care whether he is Christian, Muslim or Jewish. It’s uncontrolled immigration that caused the protests. Enough is enough.”


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Claphamanian
Claphamanian
9 months ago

See Real Crime, Fake Justice by Theodore Dalrymple, City Journal, Summer 2006 edition.

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EppingBlogger
EppingBlogger
9 months ago

A good article.

note that a HAMAS flag waving local from the large Bangladeshi population nearby was collecting cash from passing motorists. He was in the middle of Romford Road near the A404.

Just a few months ago Newham Borough Council took ages to get similar flags removed from council owned lamp posts. They re-appears several times.

Not many years ago I was not allowed to canvass support at an election on a slip road leading to a station on grounds it was owned by TfL.

Balanced “policing”; I think not.

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RTSC
RTSC
9 months ago

The Globalists have been deliberately destabilising western societies with mass immigration.

The violence we are witnessing on a daily basis now has been planned … they have deliberately created a violent, low-trust, society in the UK (and are doing the same across the west) so that they can justify more surveillance, more authoritarianism and ramp-up the demonisation of the native white population which has borne the brunt of the violence but mustn’t, under any circumstances, retaliate.

Matt Goodwin, in his latest substack (unfortunately behind a paywall) absolutely nails it.
“what’s happening on the streets of Britain right now, in the aftermath of those hideous murders, is not about a single piece of ‘disinformation’, ‘misinformation’, some rogue tweet, or a video by a populist politician.
It is the culmination of decades of disastrous policies by our ruling class, the same class that’s now rushing to discredit anybody and everybody who points this out…….The policy of mass immigration which the vast majority of people in this country neither asked for nor voted for.
The complete breakdown of our borders, allowing tens of thousands of unvetted and often dangerous migrants from high-conflict societies into our country.
And the complete disinterest in thinking about how to sustain a cohesive, integrated, high-trust society.
For decades now, the very same politicians who are lining up to denounce much of the rest of the country as ‘far right’ have been pushing soft-on-crime policies while subjecting the British people to porous borders and mass migration from third-world countries where violence, disorder, and misogyny are the norm.
So, is it any wonder that our social fabric is now disintegrating before our eyes? Is it any wonder that mass immigration and the elite obsession with diversity —as academics warned twenty years ago— are now producing a low-trust society with spiralling crime, social atomisation, and growing division?”

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iconoclast
iconoclast
9 months ago
Reply to  RTSC

“The Globalists have been deliberately destabilising western societies”

I agree the evidence suggests western democracies are being deliberately destabilised but who by and which interests are best served by that is for me an unanswered question.

Look at how western values are being destroyed by gender identity politics and so much more.

No need to wage war against the West when it can be destroyed from within. That is what we are witnessing.

How did Cameron and Osborne start the process laughably under the banner of “austerity” of racking up national debts which are so massive many of the problems which they could have fixed cannot be now because the cash is not there anymore.

How can that be austerity when it is rampant profligacy?

And how come all sides in politics and the legacy media kept their mouths shut about this whilst it was ongoing?

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iconoclast
iconoclast
9 months ago

A warning for DS readers about Claire Fox, the author of this article and her history – which is questionable in terms of her seeming conversion to supporting free speech and in many other aspects.

A starting place is George Monbiot’s 2003 Guardian article “Invasion of the Entryists“.

And how did someone like Claire Fox find her way into the House of Lords?

In my view Fox and her clan have always been masquerading as activists with extreme political views whilst in truth being an arm of undeclared unseen commercial and other interests to undermine and manipulate the British public, news and politics.

It is in my view no coincidence that she and her band of collaborators abruptly changed politics from extreme left to extreme right. It took place when the old Soviet Union was collapsing. Job done, they all rapidly swapped sides to campaign and manipulate opinion on behalf of globalist big business thereby adapting to new missions for the changing times.

Fox and her associates will of course not agree with these views and claim they are not true. But what she and they have yet to explain away is their being the most extraordinary examples of leopards changing their spots [Jeremiah 13:23 (King James bible)] and that is most curious – indeed unbelievably so – it beggars belief. And they all swapped sides at around the same time whilst retaining broadly the same modus operandi in their new incarnations.

So even if my views are wrong – and they could be – that aspect remains otherwise inexplicable.

The statistical probability of that happening is in my opinion a very very small number.

Extract of Invasion of the Entryists:

“One of strangest aspects of modern politics is the dominance of former left-wingers who have swung to the right. The “neo-cons” pretty well run the White House and the Pentagon, the Labour party and key departments of the British government. But there is a group which has travelled even further, from the most distant fringes of the left to the extremities of the pro-corporate libertarian right. While its politics have swung around 180 degrees, its tactics – entering organisations and taking them over – appear unchanged. Research published for the first time today suggests that the members of this group have colonised a crucial section of the British establishment.

The organisation began in the late 1970s as a Trotskyist splinter called the Revolutionary Communist party. It immediately set out to destroy competing oppositionist movements. When nurses and cleaners marched for better pay, it picketed their demonstrations.(1) It moved into the gay rights group Outrage and sought to shut it down.(2) It tried to disrupt the miners’ strike,(3) undermined the Anti-Nazi League (4) and nearly destroyed the radical Polytechnic of North London.(5) On at least two occasions RCP activists physically attacked members of opposing factions.(6)

In 1988, it set up a magazine called Living Marxism, later LM. By this time, the organisation, led by the academic Frank Furedi, the journalist Mick Hume and the teacher Claire Fox, had moved overtly to the far right. LM described its mission as promoting a “confident individualism” without social constraint.(7) It campaigned against gun control,(8) against banning tobacco advertising (9) and child pornography,(10)and in favour of global warming,(11) human cloning and freedom for corporations. It defended the Tory MP Neil Hamilton (12) and the Bosnian Serb ethnic cleansers.(13) It provided a platform for writers from the corporate thinktanks the Institute for Economic Affairs (14) and the Center for the Defense of Free Enterprise.(15) Frank Furedi started writing for the Centre for Policy Studies (founded by Keith Joseph and Margaret Thatcher)(16) and contacting the supermarket chains, offering, for £7,500, to educate their customers “about complex scientific issues”. (17)

In the late 1990s, the group began infiltrating the media, with remarkable success. For a while, it seemed to dominate scientific and environmental broadcasting on Channel 4 and the BBC. It used these platforms (Equinox, Against Nature, Attack of the Killer Tomatoes, Counterblast, Zeitgeist) to argue that environmentalists were Nazi sympathisers who were preventing human beings from fulfilling their potential. In 2000, LM magazine was sued by ITN, after falsely claiming that the news organisation’s journalists had fabricated evidence of Serb atrocities against Bosnian Muslims. LM closed, and was resurrected as the web magazine Spiked and the thinktank the Institute of Ideas.

All this is already in the public domain. But now, thanks to the work of the researcher and activist Jonathan Matthews (published today on his database http://www.gmwatch.org), what seems to be a new front in this group’s campaign for atomisation has come to light. Its participants have taken on key roles in the formal infrastructure of public communication used by the science and medical establishment.”

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djg682
djg682
9 months ago

‘That the only solutions to the horrifying events in Southport are more bans and censorship is more likely to fuel new depths of anger and resentment’

The question is why, when that is a possible outcome.

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Richard Austin
Richard Austin
9 months ago

Interesting article but devoid of suggestions as to how to resolve the Seriously Big Elephant: Mass Uncontrolled Immigration. Ms Fox should be somewhat of an expert on this one since it was the Government of which she was a part which opened the floodgates with no checks whatsoever on who we let in.
Children have died as a direct result of that policy which was implemented with no mandate whatsoever from the people. Let’s be honest here, that was, and is, the major issue in all cases of this nature. We also know that out of control immigration has allowed sick people like Anjem Choudry preach hate. Tomorrow we will see once again numerous protests spouting hatred of us, all Jews, hatred of our country and of our way of life. Is it any wonder people reacted as they did?
Keir Starmer claims it was Far Right: the man is a liar or a complete and utter fool. The vast majority out on the streets in Southport were ordinary people who most likely didn’t even bother to vote. They certainly do not belong, in the main, to any form of political party.
They are ordinary citizens sickened by successive Governments failure to address the fact that our laughable leaders have no intention whatsoever of dealing with murderers who reside all around us. Starmer proclaiming that all those concerned mothers, fathers, brothers and sisters are all swivel eyed Fascist hate mongering thugs helps nobody. It simply confirms what all those people know: Starmer has no intention of lifting a perfectly manicured finger. He simply intends to import even more.

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JohnnyDollar
JohnnyDollar
9 months ago

Is Cencorship The Enemy or Those who Engineer & Implement it!!??

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