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- “Hung parliament is in our grasp, says Sunak” – Rishi Sunak has suggested voters could deliver a hung parliament if only 130,000 voters switch to the Tories, reports the Telegraph.
- “The Tories are in no position to attack Farage” – Cries of hurt and anger over disgraced Reform candidates look less powerful when the Conservative Party was perfectly happy to take the money from Frank Hester, writes Suella Braverman in the Telegraph.
- “Starmer’s worst blunder should disqualify him as Prime Minister” – We are ready to punish the Tories for their failings. But why are we so ready to forgive Labour for errors that were much more serious? asks Andrew Lilico in the Telegraph.
- “Reasons to be cheerful…” – On his Substack, Ben Pile is trying to stay positive ahead of Labour’s expected victory on July 4th.
- “Allison Pearson meets Nigel Farage: ‘Kemi Badenoch was very unpleasant’” – The Telegraph columnist Allison Pearson joins the Reform leader in Clacton to find out why he’s come back to torment the Tories.
- “Conservative candidate rabbi ‘abused and intimidated’ at local mosque” – Jewish community representatives have condemned the treatment of a rabbi berated outside a mosque, according to the Standard.
- “The BBC’s Miriam Cates hit job doesn’t add up” – The BBC attack on Miriam Cates is thin gruel, says Brendan O’Neill in the Spectator.
- “Super-rich ‘already fleeing Britain ahead of Starmer’s crackdown’” – A leading City lawyer warns that fear of higher taxes under Labour is already scaring off the wealthy, reports the Telegraph.
- “Keir Starmer adviser’s Jimmy Savile prosecution report revised before publication” – Newly released papers show that a report into the failure by the CPS to prosecute Jimmy Savile under Keir Starmer was amended with some harshly worded criticism revised, says the Times.
- “Britain’s defence forces not ready for ‘conflict of any scale’” – A senior official has warned that Britain’s depleted military capability has left our Armed Forces unable to defend the country properly, reports LBC.
- “Labour may have no choice but to reintroduce free movement” – Coaxing the leisured masses back into the workforce won’t be enough to fulfil Starmer’s housebuilding ambitions, says Jeremy Warner in the Telegraph. Free movement will have to be brought back.
- “Ex-DUP leader Sir Jeffrey Donaldson faces 18 sex offence charges” – The former DUP leader Sir Jeffrey Donaldson is to face additional sex offence charges when he appears in court on Wednesday, reports the BBC
- “Jeremy Clarkson is highlighting another British industry in peril” – Chef Tom Kerridge says he hopes Jeremy Clarkson will shine a light on the challenges of running a pub when he opens his own, according to the Shropshire Star.
- “Ed Sheeran claims every area of London is ‘sketchy’” – In an interview with American comedian Theo Von, Ed Sheeran admitted he often feels unsafe when visiting London, reports the Mail.
- “Democrat donors threaten to pull plug if Biden doesn’t resign” – Growing Democratic uproar over Joe Biden’s shockingly feeble debate performance appears to be turning into a full-blown revolt, says the Mail.
- “The Trump-Biden debate disaster” – Ancient philosophers and tragedians would have understood the human folly – from the media, the President and his party – that led to last week’s debacle, writes Heather Mac Donald in City Journal.
- “BBC presenter deletes tweet urging Biden to kill Trump” – BBC radio host David Aaronovitch has deleted a tweet urging Joe Biden to murder Donald Trump, reports the Washington Examiner. Aaronovitch says it was clearly a joke.
- “Donald Trump’s sentencing in hush money case to be delayed” – Donald Trump’s sentencing for a hush money conviction will be delayed until September after the Supreme Court released its decision on presidential immunity, reports NBC News.
- “Stop calling it the ‘Democratic’ Party” – The American people don’t want to be ruled by the deep state, says Michael Shellenberger on the Public Substack.
- “Biden mocked for ‘fake tan’ in comeback speech” – Donald Trump has mocked Joe Biden for his apparent change in complexion after appearing ghostly white at last week’s presidential debate, reports the Telegraph.
- “Man returning from his sister’s graduation party is beaten to death by Syrian migrant; Interior Minister Nancy Faeser blames Germany’s poor refugee accommodations and failed ‘social integration’” – Germany’s Interior Minister has totally abandoned the welfare of her country’s citizens in favour of appeasing hostile foreigners, writes Eugyppius on Substack.
- “Behind Davos, claims of a toxic workplace” – Despite its lofty goals, the WEF has faced numerous accusations of sexual harassment and discrimination, say Shalini Ramachandran and Khadeeja Safdar in the WSJ.
- “Israeli study explains how Pfizer-BioNTech mRNA shot causes menstrual irregularities” – On Substack, Sonia Elijah examines a recent study from Tel Aviv University which found that COVID-19 mRNA vaccines could cause menstrual irregularities by affecting ovarian cells.
- “Differential increases in excess mortality in the German federal states during the COVID-19 pandemic: study” – A new German study demonstrates that ‘Covid’ deaths were exaggerated, interventions were ineffective and the ‘vaccine’ caused more harm than good, writes Joel Smalley on his Substack.
- “Crisis in casualty: A&E patients waiting up to 10 days to be admitted” – Almost every trust in England reports leaving at least one person languishing on a trolley in their emergency department for 24 hours or more over the past year, reports the Mail.
- “Sadiq Khan to impose congestion charge on electric vehicles” – Sadiq Khan is extending London’s congestion charge to all zero-emission vehicles from the end of next year, says the Telegraph.
- “Protesters outside Just Stop Oil trial arrested for ‘attempting to sway jurors’” – Around a dozen Just Stop Oil protesters have been arrested for allegedly trying to sway jurors in a court case, reports the Telegraph.
- “The resilient Great Barrier Reef: analysing the surprising recovery amidst climate alarmism” – Recent reports indicate that the Great Barrier Reef has hit record coral cover for the third year in a row, says Charles Rotter in WUWT?
- “New cars to have automatic speed limiters – can drivers turn them off?” – All new cars sold in Europe are required to be equipped with speed limiters from this week – and U.K. models are likely to have them installed too, reports the Mail.
- “Keir Starmer says trans women won’t be allowed to use female toilets” – Keir Starmer has hardened his position on gender rights, saying trans women with penises should not be allowed to enter female-only spaces, according to the Mail.
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Net Zero is not about each household paying $500,000.
Net Zero will not cost anything near that number.
Net Zero will likely cost us a few $10’s of thousands only.
Why?
Because Net Zero is about taking most of us back to the pre-industrial age.
Agree, but it is also about obliterating most of us along the way, and letting the rest have a severely diminished life, other than the elite ones.
Had a down tick there – when the plebs start getting their gas and electric bill estimates in the coming weeks they’ll be down ticking the Government and Green Warrior elite. Some serious hard times ahead and fertile ground for social unrest.
Already got mine. It’s double of what it was last year.
Snap – I work in the community and there is real hardship out there which is only going to get much worse. Debt referrals to my service are going through the roof and people genuinely cannot afford to live.
If there wasn’t such a level of mobile phone addiction, I suspect there would already have been a response even stronger than the response to the poll tax in 1990.
After the state-sponsored terrorism of Covid, with its “money no object” actions, perceived as “free” by a lot of people who are unable to understand that it isn’t, the rocketing cost of living, which will sink a number of people already impoverished over the last two years, may actually hit home.
I suppose the next election, if the Tories lose it, will just mean a new and increased set of Labour et al first-class passengers occupying the same old Titanic deckchairs.
“Cannot afford to live” – that’s the outcome that appeals to Johnson’n Carrie!
I hope the majority have their heads screwed on enough to be able to join the dots, olaffreya. I worry they will blame Russia Man Bad, or whichever bogeyman the smartphone provides.
“I hope the majority have their heads screwed on enough to be able to join the dots,”
That’s far too big an ask on the basis of recent and ongoing experience.
Hope springs eternal, until MSM and a crap “education” system do their worst.
The coming cyber attacks will ensure they blame Russia.
And who will we be voting for? Every aspect of the Uniparty has pledged to go further and faster than Princess Nut Nut.
Feel free to write!
https://www.greenparty.org.uk/contact.html
Johnson Family fully on-side with the project!
I have said it before and am saying it again and will continue to say it until something akin to basic common sense prevails.
We all breathe in the same air and the earth is surrounded by the same atmosphere. If I am wrong in that will someone please correct me.
If that is the case what on earth is the point of the UK (and others in the West) living in hair shirts unable to heat our houses, in the name of some Net Zero fantasy, designed to impoverish and reduce all of us to a state of abject misery, when China and India to name but 2 are not prepared to do anything and indeed continue on the road of coal fired power etc which we have been forced to abandon because of the “climate emergency”?
Agreed. And I’ve said this before (and I too will continue to say it until something akin to basic common sense prevails):
Most major non-Western countries are either unconcerned about the impact of greenhouse gases on the climate or don’t regard the issue as a priority, focusing instead for example on economic growth, poverty eradication and (increasingly and understandably) energy security. Yet these countries – comprising 84% of the world’s population and all its poorest people – are the source of 75% of global emissions whereas Britain is the source of less than 1%.
It therefore makes no sense for our government – facing a severe energy crisis – to pursue a policy that will make energy increasingly expensive and unreliable, that will be ludicrously expensive thereby wreaking yet further damage to our already weakened economy, that will make us dependent on China for key products, components and materials – and that, in any case, cannot make even the slightest noticeable difference to the continuing growth of global emissions.
The point is that the likes of Princess Nut Nut cry “global!” while being absolutely determined not to look further than their own back garden.
Or latest Lakeside privileged holiday in Italy!
“Net zero” is all about WHO we are transferring all that money to.
Basically In the UK the land title owners of windy land (often HRM Queeny and The Prince of rent-seeking in Cornwall)..
Not to mention the millions the Crown Office collects for allowing the bird choppers off shore.
Incidentally a vast array of Unreliable’s are being installed outside our house in the Tay Estuary.
However the Irish company – Roadbridge – who are scaring the country side and one of our golf courses, by installing the cables to an inland power hub, has just gone bust.
Strange that, when I thought ALL the grifters involved in the Global Waming scam were bullet proofed by the Taxpayer.
…oligarchs.
The obscenely hyper -rich sociopaths have decided they have enough of the world’s monney yet and need most of ours too!
“Most of us”? The population of Britain in 1750 was about 6 million.
14th century is my estimate.
Live, work, and die in the same village.
Don’t travel.
Limited diet of gruel or pottage, with bacon or salt fish only on special occasions.
Work at the behest of the Lord of the Manor.
No running water.
No heat, other than a bonfire in the middle of your wooden hut if you are lucky.
Diseases like measles will very likely kill you.
Primitive medicine, your area may have a wise woman who can brew up some herbal remedy, otherwise, tough luck.
Indeed – what you describe Hypatia sounds postively bucolic compared to what I read earlier today that they have planned for us – we will be some kind of cyborgs with no soul, our every thought controlled by machines and condemned to live like that in perpetuity [due to the advances in
“medical”computer science and software upgrades].BTW – what is pottage?
Better than the crap most people choose to eat on a daily basis these days! More sugar, anyone?
The cost of taking us back to the pre-industrial age is around 10x the average household income. Which isn’t that far off £500,000
If ever there were a case of its making sense to blame the victim it’s the great Global Warming scam. In words variously attributed to Kingsley Amis and Robert Conquest “I told you so you fecking fools”.
£500,000 per household just for the UK is getting close to the mark. Because what people fail to realise is that Net Zero puts up prices, so that the cost of doing anything at all gets prohibitively greater the closer to “net zero” you get. So, yes, in today’s terms, the price might be £100,000. But the actual cost of the policies after they start increases to be an order of magnitude higher. Indeed, theoretically, there is no limit to the cost … which is why Net Zero is impossible to achieve.
Also it is impossible to achieve without mass obliteration of human life that breathes out carbon dioxide. It is a big scam, and a complete nonsense, akin to the Emperor’s New Clothes. People are so brainwashed and dim that they cannot see it.
Last night Nigel Farrage was ‘performing’ in Dudley for GB news. When he asked for a show of hands – from an obviously fairly informed audience – how many knew about all things associated with the great Global Warming fraud, mainly that electricity companies collected vast sums from the customers whether the windmills were switched off due to too much or too little wind, only four or five had ever heard of it.
That demonstrated to me the complete success of the media and government propaganda, and what a steep learning curve us realists must instigate
The media just lie to us. I first saw it with climate, then we all saw it with covid, now we see it with the hysteria over Ukraine. If there ever was a time they told the truth, they gave up in the last few decades.
I saw a bit of it – I thought he was excellent.
…
“Iraqi refugee cheats British taxpayers”.
‘These costs are rarely mentioned.’
Costs, to the taxpayer in general, are never mentioned. The costs of:
The ongoing invasion of the UK by illegal immigrants, their collection, accommodation, food, mobile phones and sports footwear
The cost of subsidised electricity generation to keep Boris’s handler Princess nut nut happy
The cost of shutting down the NHS while keeping the staff fully employed and paid
The cost of ‘vaccines’ which don’t appear to do what it says on the tin, but which do a lot more besides
The cost of getting the ‘vaccines’ into peoples arms
The cost of closing schools
The cost of shutting down small businesses for ever
The cost of shovelling cash into the sweaty mitts of covid scheme fraudsters, both public and private sector
to name a few, off the top of my head.
And – was it? – £6 billion to set fire to unwanted Wu Flu protective gear imported from China of which plenty government “acquaintances” got a nice little cut no doubt.
Meanwhile, when the inverted pyramid of the City of London is about to topple, the government looks set to increase military spending. The rulers are already spreading memes such as that it was only “defence cuts” (uh?) that paid for the “welfare state”. The message is that you’ve to got to accept further deprivation in order to defend…to defend what, exactly? A sh*tty culture based on sarcasm, private schools, and accommodation mortgaged to moneylenders? They can shove it.
Predictions regarding numbers of pounds sterling to be paid or agreed for anything make less sense given that heavy inflation is around the corner, along with the writing off of a lot of financial assets (that’s how banks go insolvent)… The critical focus should be on how the plan is to depopulate heavily and to rob the survivors, with both moves to be carried out on an unprecedented scale.
It is clear that Johnson’s orders from Davos are to take down the British economy and the British people with it!
Good article over at Turbulent Times by Peter North.
Yes, Net Zero is a culture war issue
https://www.turbulenttimes.co.uk/news/front-page/yes-net-zero-is-a-culture-war-issue/
yes – good article!
Yes Pete’s got his teeth into this. His Dad Richard writes better articles, better researched, and is just as much anti-green blob , but right now is fixated over Ukraine.
Not just culture – the Government is now at war with the British people
It’s a propaganda Vs Science war. Less than 10% of the worlds population have a scientific degree (someone worked it out one day and it’s around 0.1%, but 10% will do for this illustration).
If every scientist on earth was convinced climate change was a hoax, that would still only be 10% of the democratic vote (in a democratic country of course).
The left are good with propaganda, and everything should work ‘in theory’, like Marxism.
And whilst most accuse the left of lying all the time, my belief is they are mostly idealists who believe the propaganda which always presents the theoretical outcome of a situation.
However, a theory is the conclusion to a scientific study, which is a falsifiable entity, and scientists are more often wrong than they are right, which is why we have experiments. If we didn’t, we would just go straight from an hypothesis straight to the theory and leave out all that bothersome scientific method out of it.
The left are masters of propaganda and science has no defence.
What about the tens of gigawatts of power that every recharging station will need if any sort of long distance travel is to be viable?
If we could stop talking about heat pumps as if they’re a real thing, that would be great. It violates the laws of thermodynamics to take heat from a colder body to heat up a warmer body. It simply cannot physically be done any more than a perpetuum mobile can work. The heat that is generated by a heat pump actually comes from the energy you put into it to make it work. Heat pumps are just very expensive and very inefficient electric radiators.
Sorry, but while retro-fitting heat pumps to ancient houses with gas boilers may be very expensive, your analogy with inefficient electric radiators is incorrect.
That we’d all be better off sticking with gas boilers is indisputable, but heat pumps do have a positive coefficient of performance and denying that fact won’t make it go away.
Where is the energy coming from?
Where is the money coming from – or is this part of the plan to force people out of their houses and hand them to the Banks at rock bottom prices?
Possibly, the problem is the UK birth rate is in decline, and if it continues houses will not be returning much when they are lying empty.
What puzzles me is, why are we suffering a ‘housing shortage’?
I suspect that concept is actually, we are suffering a ‘council house shortage’ to house the illegal immigrants sailing across the English Channel.
In which case, it doesn’t take a great leap of the imagination to believe that Priti Patel is under instruction not to do anything about these people because they address our declining population.
What does a government hate more than a falling population?
The income taxes/VAT/green taxes/stealth taxes etc. paid by a working population.
The problem is that declining birth rates is a normal consequence of civilization. It’s a matter of perspective. We’re seeing it as a drop below the norm, when in fact it is a drop back to the norm.
Birth rates in the past needed to be high because fatality rates were shockingly high. But as the quality of life improved, a child has very high chances to survive birth and grow up to adulthood. It is only normal that birth rates will naturally drop, as they do in any community of any species once the population size exceeds the available resources.
What’s more, it seems that birth rates are inversely proportional to female education. The more educated the women in a community are, the lower the birth rates. This, again, makes perfect sense. Better educated women will devote more time to careers and hobbies, and less time to childbirth and taking care of children.
And lastly, an educated couple living in a civilized world is more likely to want to create an adequate environment before having a child. They might want to own a home and have stable jobs with a high enough income to allow one of them to spend time raising their child. This takes time, so they will have fewer children, later in life.
In terms of what the government can do to reverse this trend, population replacement is the absolute worst decision possible. This has been proven in the past decade. Probably the best option is to give people incentives to have children. The most obvious solution, and probably not the best, is to give subsidies to young couples that want to have children. This way people get an income boost that helps them raise their children. But probably the best way to do it is to ensure that young people can get the secure lifestyle they’re looking for in order to have a child. Have a strong economy so that young people have no problem finding a secure, well paying job. Keep immigration at a minimum so that house prices are low, so young couple can afford to buy a house on an average income. And lastly, make sure that there are no companies like Blackrock in the US buying up all the houses and land they can get their hands on, artificially raising house prices and making it near impossible to find one for sale.
Why would birth rates fall as infant mortality declines? That makes no sense whatsoever in term so of population growth or decline. Nor is there any problem with resources. The world produces more than it can consume for almost any entity you care to name including food.
The problem in developing nations is that large families are desirable to overcome both child mortality (which is still high although better than it was) and old age provision. In which case, make state old age provision nationwide and that part of the equation is eradicated. Infant mortality will continue to improve providing people are wealthy enough to afford health care. The wealth is determined by cheap energy which is without a doubt derived from burning coal in power stations.
The overriding factor you fail to mention is prosperity. Whatever the reason for falling birth rates be it both partners in a relationship working and not having time for children, better health outcomes, more leisure time, better welfare provision is a direct result of a country with cheap, reliable energy that generates jobs and income.
Above all else, this is the common denominator between countries with declining birth rates.
So why would it be necessary to incentivise people to produce more children? Why can’t we just let nature run its course?
The answer is that governments are invested in the idea that more people pay more taxes to give governments more money to waste.
Overpopulation.
And the cause of prosperity is civilization, which is what I began with.
You’re the one that called it a problem.
Overpopulation has nothing to do with the decrease in child mortality. You’re just making this nonsense up as you go along.
Civilisation is the concept of a lawful, moral and just society. It also has nothing to do with population.
Poverty, or lack thereof, is the principle factor in the rise or decline in population.
Nor is this my observations, this is the conclusion of the UN who predict that as prosperity spreads throughout developing nations, by the end of the 21st Century the worlds population will have peaked at around 9.5Bn people and then begin a sharp decline.
My expression ‘problem’ was relative to housing, not population.
Go and pester someone else with your illogical and factually moronic arguments.
So let me get this straight. More babies surviving childbirth and reaching adulthood has nothing to do with overpopulation in your mind? You do know what “overpopulation” means, right?
You’re just making this nonsense up as you go along. If you could quote me where I said that, that would be great.
You are really thick, you know that? Poverty is a function of social stability, social development, and education. ALL of those things are a result of CIVILIZATION.
Your literal words: “the problem is the UK birth rate is in decline”. You didn’t say the problem is housing, you said the problem is the birth rate being in decline. You forgot your own words?
You can barely read a comment properly and you forgot what you said a couple of comments ago, and you have the nerve to tell others that they’re illogical or moronic? That’s rich. Let me know when you realise that prosperity is not some random act that happens for no reason.
Think of the principle of a fridge. Very crudely, an electric current runs a compressor which pumps coolant around the system, which in turn removes heat from the inside of the fridge and circulates it through the piping at the rear of the fridge to be radiated into the air.
As you turn the thermostat down on the fridge the compressor works harder to pump the refrigerant to remove more heat. If you think there is no heat in a fridge to remove, then how does a freezer remove enough heat to function at -18ºC?
A heat pump works in reverse. It takes the embodied heat from its surroundings, be that air or soil, and runs it through your house via a coolant and an electric pump.
The problem being, of course, is that it’s expensive to run an electric pump especially as it gets colder outside and the pump has to work harder to run the refrigerant round the system ‘faster’.
Much like an electric car, this is great as far as localised emissions are concerned as there is nothing being burned in your house. In practice though, the power required to generate the electricity to operate the pump/compressor is generated elsewhere, merely displacing the pollution.
In terms of a ground source heat pump, around 1m under the soil in the UK is around 14ºC, from memory, so they can actually work quite well, assuming you have a huge garden to dig up to install the pipework, You can also run a feed and return straight down a borehole, and if you think digging up your garden is expensive, wait until you see the cost for boring.
Air source heat pumps don’t do well when the outside temperature approaches around -5ºC. The technology will undoubtedly improve but much like most technology these days, all the big gains have already been made. We’re talking small increments of improvement now.
A fridge doesn’t work like a fan. It doesn’t take heat away from a hot source to cool a cold source. What it does is expend energy to compress a gas which in turn heats up, according to the ideal gas law. This gas is now passed through a radiator at the back of your fridge to cool down. It is then passed inside the fridge enclosure where it is expanded. This, according to the ideal gas law again, causes the gas to drop in temperature. Now you actually get a heat transfer from the inside of the fridge to the colder gas. And then the cycle repeats.
The vast majority of the heat generated by a fridge comes from your wall outlet, and is released on one hand by the moving parts of the fridge heating up, and on the other hand by the gas going through the radiator at the back of the fridge, cooling down after it was compressed.
At every step in the process, heat is transferred from a hot source to a cold source. There is no way to transfer heat from a cold source to a hot source. If the ground is at 14C, then you cannot use it to heat anything over 14C without expending energy on it.
A fridge is a very inefficient way to heat up a room. Electricity is turned into mechanical work and then into heat, which is not a very efficient process. It is much more efficient to simply pass that heat through a heating element and turn electricity into heat directly.
You just wasted an entire first paragraph repeating what I said.
I was quite plain in my explanation that it was crude. I wasn’t prepared to drivel on and bore people with the scientific/mechanical explanation of the inner workings of a fridge.
My fourth paragraph summed up what your post:
“The problem being, of course, is that it’s expensive to run an electric pump especially as it gets colder outside and the pump has to work harder to run the refrigerant round the system ‘faster’.”
You have just completely wasted your time and everyone else’s.
Considering you are still left believing that you can heat up a house using a cold source then I have wasted my time indeed, since you don’t like reading what other people respond to you.
Not to mention the fact that there is no overlap between your paragraph and what I said… But that is, again, a result of your not reading what I said.
Neither ambient air nor 14ºC underground are ‘cold’ sources. They both have embodied heat which can be extracted, just like your refrigerator.
If not, how can my freezer be programmed to cool from -18ºC to -25ºC.
Because the refrigerant is made to work harder to remove some of the embodied heat at -18ºC to reduce the temperature to -25ºC.
That heat is expelled to my kitchen via the radiative coil at the rear of the fridge.
Reverse that process by putting the radiative coil inside a house and yes, you can heat a house up with the embodied heat from the outside air or soil.
I didn’t say it could be done without an electrical input, nor did I say it was cheap, unless your electricity is free or as near to as makes no difference. But the fact is, the electricity is not heating your house directly and, under the correct circumstances, it can be a reasonably efficient way to heat a house when one has exceptional insulation properties and a thermal mass like an insulated concrete floor through which to run underfloor heating.
None of which comes cheap, and there are very few houses in the UK which are either built to that standard or which can be retro fitted to that standard.
14C is cold compared to 18-22C, which is what most people consider to be a reasonable indoor temperature.
Had you actually bothered to read my explanation, I would have to keep repeating this: Your freezer is colder than the room it’s in because you are expending energy to cool it down. Cooling something down in order to heat a room is not as efficient as simply heating the room with the electricity directly. Every time you exchange energy from one for to another, you are losing it. No transformation is 100% efficient. And going from electric energy, into kinetic energy, into thermal, into kinetic, and back into thermal is not as efficient as electric straight into thermal.
Except you’re actually heating it with the electricity you use to run the whole contraption…
An excellent explanation. You are correct.
That’s going to make winters fun.
A lot of homes in Finland have these ‘heat pumps’ – they seem to work on the principle that air at, say, minus 18 Centigrade is still warmer than something at, say, minus 30 Centigrade. I don’t know how they work, but people claim they do.
I have always guessed they probably use more electricity to make them work than what you get out in heat… but, I guess I’m wrong (?!).
In our home we have a big ‘stove’ – in winter we put a box of logs in once a day, about 20 logs, once the embers are black the steel plate gets slid over to close the chimney, and the stove radiates heat all day long… works well.
Remember, minus 25 Centigrade here in Dec-Feb is ‘normal’.
“I have always guessed they probably use more electricity to make them work than what you get out in heat… but, I guess I’m wrong (?!)”
No you’re not wrong. There is no such thing as a free lunch.
If heat pumps could generate more output than they need input, we would have cracked perpetual motion, defied the laws of thermodynamics, and we would have no use for Fusion power when it arrives.
It really is all BS isn’t it?
The only people to win out this will be the banks. Surprise, surprise……..
Indeed it is!
We have 8 Air source heat pumps in our portfollio and I know exactly what sort of COP we get from them and it’s a long way short of the cheerleaders claims. Ours have hefty solar arrays to help with running costs and the systems use large hot water stores to give a stored energy effect. When it feels like working in harmony it isn’t too bad but…
All of them have broken down in the last year-examples of failures include several condensors on the internal units at £3000 +VAT each and 6 week delivery times, pcb failures-again often with long lead times, various other components.
At one point last year a very large diesel boiler was hired for 2 months at many £1000s for hire and temporary install costs.
So good are these state of the art systems that it’s been decided that the only way we can guarantee that they work at all times is to install some rather large electric boilers as back up for the frequent breakdowns. A retro gas install is considered too expensive.
You’ve just gotta love ‘green’ technology.
It the morons who are push it on us we need to take care of!
Ever heard of a ‘water hammer’?
Yes. Not sure how it relates to what I was saying, though.
Net zero CO2? What a waste of money!
I’ll Net Zero when the Chinks do
If they did, I still wouldn’t.
I would shove it up the arse of Kim Jong Johnson though.
Half a million pounds to be paid per head, with the government to sign the contract?
Yes please, said the moneylenders.
Funny how when Russia has become the bogeyman in the British press, the British government looks set to take a leaf out of Boris Godunov’s book from 1597, when he enserfed practically the entire peasantry.
Hmm. It would have no idea what you’re talking about (or of the “volcanic winter” that followed and its effects).
But it would cheerfully condone the banning of the opera and the cancelling of those who sing or conduct it.
Not long ago the young were marching to have the wealth of the 1% distributed around the world, where are they now?
Picking their mobile phones. Think of it like heroin addiction.
As usual, with the CCC, it’s a case, yet again, of “Cui Bono”. Chairman Gummer, who unbelievably is an even slimier creep than Gove and Hancock (I have had the misfortune to meet him on fisheries matters), has spent a career enriching himself whilst in office as an MP, with various “Green” business links and consultancies. That’s in between time spent claiming expenses for killing moles, keeping his garden nice, and paying for one of his companies via parliamentary expenses. Q.v. https://www.ipswichstar.co.uk/news/gummer-defends-expenses-revelations-2705238
Now he’s busy and up to his lying tricks in the Lords.
This is the calibre of the people who are up to their ears in this; nothing more or less than embezzlers, conmen and criminals.
I work for an organisation that had the bright idea of installing an air source heat pump to help heat a large building that it owned. This would do very little more than provide “background” heat, and would need to be supplemented by an oil powered boiler. Heat pumps are not capable of heating water to the temperature required to kill off bugs such as Legionnaires in the water.
Installation of such a scheme, because it was quite a big building, required a whole new engineering scheme to be drawn up by specialised designers. In the end, having spent several thousands of pounds on preparation, the whole idea had to be ditched, because it turned out that installation costs would have been over £350,000; for something that couldn’t do the job on its own!
They are not something that can be just installed at the drop of a hat. And the costs are way more than we are being led to believe.
anybody trying to sell anything will lie constantly to get what they want, be it a car, a house, an IT project or a ludicrous hair-brained eco scheme. You just want to get the nod then you can let the costs mount up
we have air source systems that when working properly do heat water to a constant 65C, problem is it’s very prone to failures, see my post higher up
Moronic little Give is pushing the idea and he wants to steal your wood burner too!
Possibly on average. The problem is the peak, when everybody tries to switch on their reverse-fridges on a cold, dark, still Winter morning. And mostly on an hour or half-hour to boot.
Practically speaking, homes are going to need significant amount of local electricity storage, both to keep the surge off the grid, and to supply during the inevitable blackouts when the wind stubbornly refuses to blow just right.
So you can factor in another £5K – £10K per household just for that, or £150-£300 billion or so.
Ignoring for the minute how we’re going to obtain millions of batteries capable of running a house for a week, where are they going to be stored? Given how they like to go pop they’ll have to be installed in fire-proof bunkers so you can probably double your estimate straight away.
Your batteries will be stored in your second home, of course. With luck, it’ll be close to the main home, so the cabling lengths required will be minimised.
We have lost the wood for the trees.
Reducing pollution in all it’s forms is fair enough, but NetZero blindly focuses on carbon emissions and ignores other forms of pollution, not least from nuclear, windfarms and dirty cities.
The underlying assumption is that we should corrupt the natural order in all kinds of ways. Unhealthy vegan artificial chemical burgers will be churned out in wind power heated warehouses, delivered by toxic lithium ion vans. This will support ever more billions populating the earth.
Over-population is the elephant in the room.
The assumption that the population of the world will continue to grow can be mitigated by economic development. Developed nations don’t have large numbers of kids because life is more secure and affluent. People who expect to live a long time typically are more interested in the planet they are going to inhabit, than making sure their offspring can act as a pension to prevent them from starving to death in old age.
Western populations are in decline. From memory, the UK birth rate is 1.8 children per couple, the sustenance level for a population is 2.1. Japan is around 1.4 as is, again from memory, Spain.
But somehow or other we have a housing crisis in the UK.
We need the house the millions Johnson wants to import to replace the current unsatisfactory British population!
He keeps offering free board and accommodation to anyone in the world fancying a move – do the Hong Kong Chinese get on with Ukrainians Afghans and Middle Easteners I wonder?
I have no problem with legal immigration, the country has benefitted from a more diverse culture in that respect. France used to be the culinary centre of the world. I was in Paris a few years ago and the variety of restaurants, never mind the quantity didn’t come close to most of the major cities in the UK.
The ‘French’ eating experience was like something out the 1970’s, admittedly that was on the outskirts of Le Mans, and the food was dire.
Nor do I have a problem with the few Hong Kong Chinese, British passport holders – who the UK have so cruelly abandoned to the fate of Chinese dictatorship despite promising to protect them (for 50 years, from memory) – being allowed to travel here with no restrictions.
I know from having lived there that, by nature, the Hong Kong Chinese are extremely hard working people, loyal to the UK, who make their own way in life, and they would be a boon to the country.
If the UK needs immigration, Hong Kong should be our first port of call and we would do well to offer them every incentive to come here.
UK skewed down by Scotland’s rate of 1.44
Bizarrely, I was up there two weeks ago and the house building going on the south side, down through Newton Mearns is just astonishing. I mean thousands of new builds going up.
That’s because of the illegal immigrants
Hardly, they are unlikely to be able to afford £350,000 houses.
Remember:
the rulers only go on about “Net Zero” because they intend large-scale depopulation – which is to say, a cull.
They don’t think their rule is “natural”. They couldn’t care less about that kind of stuff. They couldn’t care less what happens in 1000 years’ time or even 100. As their man at King’s College Cambridge, John Maynard Keynes, put it, “In the long run, we are all dead.”
Won’t the goal of achieving “Net Zero” be greatly facilitated by implementing some kind of digital currency and “social credit score” surveillance/banking system?
I think so, which is why I am convinced these initiatives are imperative for our rulers.
Whatever the real cost to a typical household, this “funding” or this “Net Zero” goal – will be easier to achieve if the State has total control over “our” money.
This is why I’ve always thought the “Vaccine passports” were so important to introduce in the last year. This reform gets the Climate Change Crowd closer to implementing their agenda.
I also think “negative interest rates” will/could be important. This is where you pay for the right to loan money to some entity or the government. This money – negative interest payment – can be automatically taken from your digital bank account.
I’ve actually always opposed a border wall spanning the border of the U.S. and Mexico. I’m opposed to such a wall not because illegal immigration isn’t a legitimate concern, but because one day I can see such a wall being used to keep Americans inside (which is exactly why the Berlin Wall was constructed).
The Powers that Be probably don’t care about Americans “voting with their feet” and fleeing this country. But I do think they are afraid of millions of Americans trying to escape – and taking all their money with them. The State does not want to lose this money – which is necessary income to them. If you believe we are living through the beginnings of authoritarian times – which could lead to totalitarian regimes – it’s probably a given that the State will require ever growing levels of income to sustain its operations and control.
The key to such an operation would be making it as easy as possible to confiscate money of the State’s subjects. All of these Climate Change reforms – Net Zero, social credit scores, etc. – make this goal that much closer to reality.
Good point.
300 new members of the free money club arrived by dinghy yesterday, they need to get the funds to pay all of these benefits from somewhere.
This sum, of course, assumes that the Greens are serious about wanting to put thjeir Zero plan into action.
But they obviously can’t be. What they ARE serious about is wringing every last penny out of us taxpayers to fund their hedonistic life-styles. Their initial bid is £450.000 per household – they will probably settle for £10,000 per household….
Green Party members drive to their meetings!
Reducing the use of fossil fuels is for others, not for them.
As has been pointed out previously, the carbon they want to reduce is YOU!
Net Zero is a complete and utter fantasy land.
Net Zero is the headline behind which they will hide their evil.
Swap Net Zero for C1984 and viccy vercky.
Why would thepoliticians listen to reason when the taxpayer pays their fuel bills, and their shares in the green blob increase in value with every bit of nonsense climate regulation they’ve been paid hansomly in “consultancy fees” to enact.
The citizenry mostly don’t realise that “Net Zero” is a complete crock of SH1TE. What a great way of ensuring that by 2030 ” you will own nothing and be happy”. I warn my ( increasingly deaf) friends as often as I can, but it’s like pithing into the storm. I genuinely think the psy- ops is working. Dammit!
And the only politician making a noise about Net Zero is Nigel Farage!
hope he keeps up the good work!!
Net zero basically translates as a huge reduction in the global population. That’s why it’s being pushed. It’s a neo-Malthusian wet dream.
Well, they’ve made a start. A couple of days ago, my monthly payments via DD for gas and electricity went up by 36%, taking into account the April Fool’s day price rises.
Sign the petition – we know it makes no difference in the long run, except to show that there are a few of us, at least, who are thinking about it.
https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/599602
Sorry – have to say this, it needs to be said.
Bulk of population is sufficiently brainwashed by MSM that they probably think that Net Zero is a “good thing” because BBC tells them it is.
You are assuming that if there was a referendum that there would be a majority against proceeding with the push for Net Zero. Considering what I have said above, that might not be the case. A majority might be zombified enough to endorse it.
You can always get the ‘wrong’ result in a referendum (as N Sturgeon knows all too well).
Absolutely right. The ‘majority’ are sold on net-zero, just as they are sold on lockdown and mass-jabbing. That’s not going to change. Soon the mantra will shift to de-population, and the majority will become sold on that too.