The Stanford-based Professor of Medicine told me that lockdowns “will be seen as the single biggest public health mistake in history”.
At a time when all the U.K.’s main political parties backed lockdown vehemently, with Labour’s Sir Keir Starmer and Nicola Sturgeon’s SNP incessantly calling for Covid-related restrictions to be even more punitive, Bhattacharya’s words were not universally welcomed.
On the contrary, his efforts to promote “targeted shielding” – helping the elderly and others with medical conditions that make them particularly vulnerable to Covid, while letting the rest of us get on with our lives – were widely dismissed as irresponsible.
Even in that climate, when to question lockdown was to face social ostracism, Bhattacharya was warning of the “enormous collateral consequences” of keeping people inside and isolating them from their loved ones during the Covid-19 pandemic. He was supported by two more top epidemiologists – Sunetra Gupta of Oxford University and Martin Kulldorff, then of Harvard. …
I’m shocked – but hardly surprised – that the U.K.’s lockdown policies have been barely discussed during this election campaign.
There seems to be a conspiracy of silence between the main parties to keep quiet about lockdown, seeing as all of them agreed with and helped reinforce it. This position is now, at the very least, open to serious question.
Missed operations, economic scarring, compromised schooling and very serious damage to people’s mental health – not least among children and young adults – were just some of the problems stored up for the future by shutting down the country three times in 2020 and 2021. …
Amidst the election campaign and well away from the public eye the U.K.’s ridiculous “Covid Inquiry” rumbles on. The inquiry team is touring the country as part of the “Every Story Matters” project, allowing people to speak anonymously without giving formal evidence to the inquiry.
Our Covid Inquiry is astonishingly drawn out – having started in June 2022 and scheduled to take evidence until at least June 2026. It’s a lawyers’ bonanza, paid for by us – with costs exceeding £70 million last year alone and the final bill expected to reach almost £200 million.
Rather than addressing the central question – whether, if the U.K. faces a pandemic similar to COVID-19, we lock down again or not – this Covid investigation has instead become a ludicrously expensive talking shop.
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Chap called Michael Staples commenting on a DT article about chief scientific adviser Sir Patrick Vallance:
“The Telegraph, whilst being sceptical of the practicality of Net Zero, has never to my knowledge published a word criticising the underlying science of CO2 being the principal cause of climate change. It suggests that they are being paid by someone to exclude a view held by many who comment here.”
It is puzzling, isn’t it? I sort of hope they are waiting for next week to throw open the Overton Window and lay into Labour on mad, bad and wrong net zero.
Hope springs, etc
“Rather than addressing the central question – whether, if the U.K. faces a pandemic similar to COVID-19, we lock down again or not”
Ah, a “pandemic similar to COVID-19.” That would be the ‘pandemic’ that wasn’t otherwise known as The Scamdemic.
The Scamdemic that was foisted on populations worldwide in order to soften them up for the poisons injections which have done way more harm than the Lockdowns and will continue to maim, sterilise and kill for years to come.
Lockdowns cannot be discussed because to do so would result in the real reasons they were imposed being admitted and that might result in heads on pikes.
The policies of LD are anti-science, immoral, illegal and without any merit.
They also killed. What the article misses is that 30.000 older people were murdered under the cover of the first LD behind closed doors. 2 million shots of midazolam were issued under Hancock’s orders across the NHS and ‘health’ systems. These 30 K murdered were ascribed to the fake flying SARS II ‘virus’ which doesn’t exist, ginning up the fear porn and propaganda.
LDs killed, injured, destroyed families, businesses, psychologies and tortured children and adults alike.
Yet none of the criminal elite who implemented this medical nazism is in prison. Most are now millionaires and/or Sirs, Dames, Lords etc etc.
The excerpt is enough for me; I agree with Liam Halligan’s view. We are looking at the long grass re any real investigation, given that so many of them are guilty. However, on account of what was done, they might find that there is less confidence in their policies on other matters as a result of it all.
No “mistakes”, no “blunders”. All deliberate, globally co-ordinated, ignoring all previously agreed upon “pandemic” policies.
“if the U.K. faces a pandemic similar to COVID-19, we lock down again or not”. There was no pandemic, and the “lockdown” was a mockdown and had nothing to do with any fictitious “deadly pandemic”.
It’s not really “lockdowns” we need to do talk about, but the “covid” scam and its origins.
Nothing you’ve said that I disagree with. The problem is that 90% of people simply cannot handle that step change in the discussion. The only way I’ve found to get others on side is to play softly, softly, catchy monkey, leaning into more truth as they gain more confidence in you and what you’re saying. A slow process, but the only one I’ve found that works. And even when it doesn’t I know I’ve left them with things to think about that don’t seem batshit crazy to them.
The first nut I try to crack is lockdown. Pointing out the obvious, now widely accepted, harms that it did and continues to do. I tend to focus mainly on what was done to children – it’s not hard for me to get passionate about that! That initial exchange let’s me know whether I’m dealing with someone capable of thought, or a socialist Guardian-reading moron. If it’s the former I can then lead into the obvious lockdown-vaccine connection, which is ‘vaccinating’ children with an untested product. If they’re still with you at this point, which many will be because the focus has been children, I lean into more truth about the ‘vaccine’ and the oddness of the lockstep approach of messaging, censorship and actions from governments across the world. I always try to hold an air of being incredulous rather than certain – people tend to respond better if it seems you’re still looking for answers, and more of an exchange of ideas can take place, where, again, you can quietly lead them down certain paths.
That’s a very rough guide to my approach. Some will say it’s dishonest, cowardly or manipulative. I don’t care. All I care about is growing the number of people that distrust the elites.
thank you ,very good points.i did hear of one brainwashed moron [ first in line to get the shots, loved wearing masks], who has said now that lockdowns were not a good idea . good idea also the incredulous approach , even if dishonest .any thing that helps.
i don’t know if i have the patience, i tend to just get really angry very soon at their stupidity , can’t help it!
but also they wouldn’t and won’t even debate. it’s just ” that’s misinformation i’m hanging up””
or “it’s over now “. no one cares.
i will try this new approach
Not only are we not supposed to discuss The Lockdown, nor question the “safe and effective vaccine” but we are supposed to be critical of Russian “interference” in The Election, supposedly routed through fake Facebook accounts. I don’t think the public will fall for the Putin Derangement Syndrome again! I’m more concerned about WHO interference routed through fake Tory MPs and senior civil servants, and the resulting Immune Derangement Syndrome.
I am still waiting to be called to give evidence to the Hallett Inquiry having made my submission in November 2022 and given my advice on what should be done starting in May 2020. If an infectious organism doesn’t kill people it doesn’t signify. If it does kill people you need to work out why, apply the right investigations to determine who is getting seriously ill and then apply the right treatment – all of which I described in detail to government (in May 2020) and was ignored. The same principles will apply to the next pandemic. Forget testing except for the deteriorating sick, forget vaccination, forget lockdowns. I did go along with the first, because a lot was unknown, but the evidence subsequently is against all three. Had we pursued my original plan economic ruin would have been avoided. One question I want answered is why, when original planning dismissed lockdowns, did the advisors do a volte-face.
The Real Engineer
1 year ago
I really am surprised that posters do not realise what the Public Enquiry process itself is supposed to achieve? A long time ago it was a way of finding out mistakes and avoiding them in future. Now it is a way of covering up mistakes they want to do again. Take the Grenfell enquiry, I watched a good deal of it, from a professional point of view.. Where is the Report several years later? I suggest that it will never be published, it is lost somewhere in file 13 in the Home Office. The evidence should have resulted in numerous (probably at least 100) persons serving long prison sentences for negligent manslaughter. The first of these should be the entire management of the London Fire Brigade which is unfit for purpose. Then there are the other criminals, fire inspectors with fake qualifications, the Building Research Establishment management who are incompetent in many ways, the inadequate Building Regulations, the Council for lack of maintenance and failure in many smaller ways, and the list goes on.
As you see, nearly all of these are Public employees. Very little has really changed.
The Covid Enquiry evidence sessions were about to uncover massive criminality in Government and the medical and scientific “experts”. Therefore it was “paused” until after the election. I suspect that it will never continue and the report again will lie in file 13 somewhere. The truth is so horific that the “Blob” will do anything to suppress it, because we would need to build 50 more prisons. I would like forensic accountants to follow about £500 Billion of our money until it is found and vouched properly. There will be a huge number of the Blob in prison and bankrupt!
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The other conspiracy of silence amongst the main parties and press is, of course, the utter stupidity of net zero. Since there is nothing wrong with “carbon”, and plenty good, we simply do not need to de-carbonise. Save trillions. Three trillions, to start with: https://www.nationalgrideso.com/news/analysing-costs-our-future-energy-scenarios?utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email#:~:text=What%20does%20the%20analysis%20show%3F
h/t David Turver.
That’s immediately my thought. And where is Halligan on that topic? Not very far along, as far as I can tell.
Chap called Michael Staples commenting on a DT article about chief scientific adviser Sir Patrick Vallance:
“The Telegraph, whilst being sceptical of the practicality of Net Zero, has never to my knowledge published a word criticising the underlying science of CO2 being the principal cause of climate change. It suggests that they are being paid by someone to exclude a view held by many who comment here.”
It is puzzling, isn’t it? I sort of hope they are waiting for next week to throw open the Overton Window and lay into Labour on mad, bad and wrong net zero.
Hope springs, etc
“Rather than addressing the central question – whether, if the U.K. faces a pandemic similar to COVID-19, we lock down again or not”
Ah, a “pandemic similar to COVID-19.” That would be the ‘pandemic’ that wasn’t otherwise known as The Scamdemic.
The Scamdemic that was foisted on populations worldwide in order to soften them up for the
poisonsinjections which have done way more harm than the Lockdowns and will continue to maim, sterilise and kill for years to come.Lockdowns cannot be discussed because to do so would result in the real reasons they were imposed being admitted and that might result in heads on pikes.
Ain’t that so Johnson?
The policies of LD are anti-science, immoral, illegal and without any merit.
They also killed. What the article misses is that 30.000 older people were murdered under the cover of the first LD behind closed doors. 2 million shots of midazolam were issued under Hancock’s orders across the NHS and ‘health’ systems. These 30 K murdered were ascribed to the fake flying SARS II ‘virus’ which doesn’t exist, ginning up the fear porn and propaganda.
LDs killed, injured, destroyed families, businesses, psychologies and tortured children and adults alike.
Yet none of the criminal elite who implemented this medical nazism is in prison. Most are now millionaires and/or Sirs, Dames, Lords etc etc.
The excerpt is enough for me; I agree with Liam Halligan’s view. We are looking at the long grass re any real investigation, given that so many of them are guilty. However, on account of what was done, they might find that there is less confidence in their policies on other matters as a result of it all.
Farage gave both Lockdown and Nett Zero prominent attention in his Birmingham rally today.
No “mistakes”, no “blunders”. All deliberate, globally co-ordinated, ignoring all previously agreed upon “pandemic” policies.
“if the U.K. faces a pandemic similar to COVID-19, we lock down again or not”. There was no pandemic, and the “lockdown” was a mockdown and had nothing to do with any fictitious “deadly pandemic”.
It’s not really “lockdowns” we need to do talk about, but the “covid” scam and its origins.
Nothing you’ve said that I disagree with. The problem is that 90% of people simply cannot handle that step change in the discussion. The only way I’ve found to get others on side is to play softly, softly, catchy monkey, leaning into more truth as they gain more confidence in you and what you’re saying. A slow process, but the only one I’ve found that works. And even when it doesn’t I know I’ve left them with things to think about that don’t seem batshit crazy to them.
An admirable approach.
could you give an example of things to say, no one has listened to me yet !
The first nut I try to crack is lockdown. Pointing out the obvious, now widely accepted, harms that it did and continues to do. I tend to focus mainly on what was done to children – it’s not hard for me to get passionate about that! That initial exchange let’s me know whether I’m dealing with someone capable of thought, or a socialist Guardian-reading moron. If it’s the former I can then lead into the obvious lockdown-vaccine connection, which is ‘vaccinating’ children with an untested product. If they’re still with you at this point, which many will be because the focus has been children, I lean into more truth about the ‘vaccine’ and the oddness of the lockstep approach of messaging, censorship and actions from governments across the world. I always try to hold an air of being incredulous rather than certain – people tend to respond better if it seems you’re still looking for answers, and more of an exchange of ideas can take place, where, again, you can quietly lead them down certain paths.
That’s a very rough guide to my approach. Some will say it’s dishonest, cowardly or manipulative. I don’t care. All I care about is growing the number of people that distrust the elites.
thank you ,very good points.i did hear of one brainwashed moron [ first in line to get the shots, loved wearing masks], who has said now that lockdowns were not a good idea . good idea also the incredulous approach , even if dishonest .any thing that helps.
i don’t know if i have the patience, i tend to just get really angry very soon at their stupidity , can’t help it!
but also they wouldn’t and won’t even debate. it’s just ” that’s misinformation i’m hanging up””
or “it’s over now “. no one cares.
i will try this new approach
hear hear!
Not only are we not supposed to discuss The Lockdown, nor question the “safe and effective vaccine” but we are supposed to be critical of Russian “interference” in The Election, supposedly routed through fake Facebook accounts. I don’t think the public will fall for the Putin Derangement Syndrome again! I’m more concerned about WHO interference routed through fake Tory MPs and senior civil servants, and the resulting Immune Derangement Syndrome.
Nice one 👍
I am still waiting to be called to give evidence to the Hallett Inquiry having made my submission in November 2022 and given my advice on what should be done starting in May 2020. If an infectious organism doesn’t kill people it doesn’t signify. If it does kill people you need to work out why, apply the right investigations to determine who is getting seriously ill and then apply the right treatment – all of which I described in detail to government (in May 2020) and was ignored. The same principles will apply to the next pandemic. Forget testing except for the deteriorating sick, forget vaccination, forget lockdowns. I did go along with the first, because a lot was unknown, but the evidence subsequently is against all three. Had we pursued my original plan economic ruin would have been avoided. One question I want answered is why, when original planning dismissed lockdowns, did the advisors do a volte-face.
I really am surprised that posters do not realise what the Public Enquiry process itself is supposed to achieve? A long time ago it was a way of finding out mistakes and avoiding them in future. Now it is a way of covering up mistakes they want to do again. Take the Grenfell enquiry, I watched a good deal of it, from a professional point of view.. Where is the Report several years later? I suggest that it will never be published, it is lost somewhere in file 13 in the Home Office. The evidence should have resulted in numerous (probably at least 100) persons serving long prison sentences for negligent manslaughter. The first of these should be the entire management of the London Fire Brigade which is unfit for purpose. Then there are the other criminals, fire inspectors with fake qualifications, the Building Research Establishment management who are incompetent in many ways, the inadequate Building Regulations, the Council for lack of maintenance and failure in many smaller ways, and the list goes on.
As you see, nearly all of these are Public employees. Very little has really changed.
The Covid Enquiry evidence sessions were about to uncover massive criminality in Government and the medical and scientific “experts”. Therefore it was “paused” until after the election. I suspect that it will never continue and the report again will lie in file 13 somewhere. The truth is so horific that the “Blob” will do anything to suppress it, because we would need to build 50 more prisons. I would like forensic accountants to follow about £500 Billion of our money until it is found and vouched properly. There will be a huge number of the Blob in prison and bankrupt!