When Jim Jordan asked Anthony Fauci on Monday whether he agreed that there was a push to downplay the ‘lab leak’ theory of the origins of SARS-CoV-2, Fauci gave an interesting answer. He did not say “no”. He said, “not on my part”. This has led some to claim that Jordan had cleverly trapped Fauci into perjuring himself. But Anthony Fauci, clearly measuring his words, told the truth. There was indeed a push to suppress the ‘lab leak’ theory, but it did not come from Fauci.
It came from Germany’s ‘star virologist’ Christian Drosten, designer of the ‘gold standard’ SARS-CoV-2 PCR test, and the other members of what I have called the ‘EU crew’ which participated in the discussions of the ‘lab-leak’ theory with their Anglosphere colleagues in the ‘Farrar-Fauci’ e-mails and on the famous February 1st 2020 conference call. This is completely clear from the documentary record, and I showed it in my last article on the subject here.
As we know from the e-mails, when Kristian Andersen came to Anthony Fauci with his suspicions that the virus had been genetically engineered, Fauci’s response was to suggest that Andersen should publish a scientific paper supporting his hypothesis. This is the evidence of Fauci’s involvement cited by the Covid Select committee.
But in what sort of ass-backwards logical universe is telling someone to publish a paper supporting the ‘lab leak’ hypothesis evidence of trying to suppress the ‘lab leak’ hypothesis?
The issue is how that paper eventually became Andersen et al.’s infamous ‘Proximal Origins’ paper, which instead of supporting the ‘lab leak’ hypothesis, rejected it, and supported the opposite hypothesis of a natural ‘zoonotic’ origin. But, as discussed in my previous article, we know full well how this happened from the documentary record. We know who pressured Andersen and his Anglosphere colleagues to recant. It was not Fauci. On Andersen’s recollection, Fauci played no role whatsoever. It was Christian Drosten and his Dutch colleague Ron Fouchier, a well-known practitioner of Gain-of-Function research.
The full ‘EU crew’ consisted of the German virologists Christian Drosten and Stefan Pöhlmann and the Dutch virologists Ron Fouchier and Marion Koopmans. But from the documentary record, we know that it was, above all, Drosten and Fouchier who functioned as the tag-team which pummelled Andersen into submission on the phonecall and in the e-mails. It would be interesting to pinpoint exactly when a weary and confused Andersen finally dropped his hands to his sides and said “no más”, and I will look at this matter another time. (Hint: Pangolins played a role.)
The next major step in the international conspiracy to suppress the “lab-leak” hypothesis was, of course, the infamous WHO investigation, which gave rise to a report which has been widely denounced as a whitewash. As a group pf concerned international scientists (including Alina Chan, but also none other than Ralph Baric!) pointed out in a letter to Science, “Only 4 of the 313 pages of the report and its annexes addressed the possibility of a laboratory accident”.
But, here too, the documentary record clearly shows what a complete non-entity Anthony Fauci was on the international stage and, more specifically, in the international efforts to suppress the hypothesis of a lab-origin of SARS-CoV-2.
Much of the early discussion in the ‘Farrar-Fauci’ e-mails was precisely about the formation of the investigative team, and, encouraged by Farrar, who was directly in touch with the WHO, Anthony Fauci offered his own suggestions for potential team members. See his February 5th 2020 e-mail below.

And here is the list of the team members from the WHO website:

Fauci’s suggestions were totally ignored. Not a single one was accepted.
What about the influence of the German-Dutch ‘EU crew’ and of German and EU authorities more generally? Did they have any better luck with the WHO? Well, even without having access to, say, Christian Drosten’s e-mails or those of Lothar Wieler, the then President of Germany’s public health authority, the Robert Koch Institute, it is completely obvious from the team’s composition that they did.
To start with, one of the members of the ‘EU crew’, Marion Koopmans, was herself part of the WHO team. As touched upon in my ‘The Greatest Story Never Told‘, Koopmans is a key collaborator of Drosten, having co-authored Drosten’s PCR protocol paper, and is also Fouchier’s boss at Erasmus University Medical Centre in Rotterdam as Chair of the Department of Viroscience.
Moreover, if we look at the annexes of the WHO report (see. p. 27f. here), we find that Koopmans played an especially prominent role in the team, being a member of two of the three sub-groups, epidemiology and molecular epidemiology, and indeed the head of the latter.
Note, furthermore, the presence of Fabian Leendertz of none other than Germany’s Robert Koch Institute among the team members. As touched upon in my article here, Leendertz was at the time the head of the RKI’s “Epidemiology of Highly Pathogenic Microorganisms” research group. At the very same time, his boss, then RKI chief Lothar Wieler, would personally lead the WHO committee on reviewing the International Health Regulations in light of the COVID-19 pandemic.
Imagine if Anthony Fauci had been so well-connected to the WHO and had been able to place one of his deputies – David Morens, say – on the WHO investigative team. But he was not and he could not. Fauci and Morens were outsiders. Wieler and Leendertz were insiders. Both of them, incidentally, are veterinarians and proponents of the ‘One Health’ approach to public health.
It is hardly surprising that the WHO showed such indulgence toward German authorities, given that the chef de cabinet of WHO Director-General Tedros was at the time none other than the German virologist Bernhard Schwartländer. It was “Tedros and Bernhard” who were communicating with Farrar and who presumably blew off Fauci’s suggestions. Schwartländer is currently the German Foreign Office’s ‘Global Health Envoy’. (For more on Schwartländer’s role, see here.)
If we include the team leader, the Dane Peter Ben Embarek (who is not listed above), no less than four of the 11 team members came from the EU. The team not only did not include any of Fauci’s suggestions, it did not include any Americans at all. The team leader, Embarek, and two of the three sub-group leads (Koopmans and Thea K. Fischer) came from the EU. The third sub-group lead was Peter Daszak, the British head of the U.S.-based EcoHealth Alliance, whose involvement in the investigation has been the target of much criticism and accusations of conflict-of-interest.
But why should the involvement of Koopmans be any less controversial? Or, for that matter, the presence of Leendertz, given his and his then boss’s commitment to the ‘One Health’ approach? The ‘One Health’ approach, which Daszak shares, would clearly bias any such investigation, predisposing investigators toward finding a zoonotic origin. This is exactly what transpired, the official brief of the team, as stated here, being “as part of the One Health approach, to identify the zoonotic source of the virus”. No wonder their investigation gave short shrift to the ‘lab leak’ hypothesis!
When the first WHO investigative team was disbanded and then replaced in October 2021 by a follow-up “Scientific Advisory Group for the Origins of Novel Pathogens”, Peter Daszak would not be invited to participate. But Marion Koopmans was. And a new, but somehow familiar, face would join the follow-up group, someone who ought to be a person of great interest to any genuine inquiry into the suppression of the lab leak hypothesis: none other than Christian Drosten.

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Lab leak theory? Actually it is largely irrelevant because the C1984 was only ever a means to get the mRNA into people’s arms.
Fauci told the truth?
I genuinely do not believe that in Fauci’s world truth and fiction have any meaning. He says whatever is required in order to complete his storyline. To attribute something as humane as morals to Fauci is in fact a failure to understand how he views the world which is demonically amoral.
I would never believe a single word coming from the mouth of that stain on humanity.
A sociopath knows that whatever they say, it is the truth. Even if it contradicts what they have said before, it’s the truth…
Yes a criminal sociopath – with a long history of fraud, graft, theft, death and lies. AIDS was just the beginning. Fraudci is a multi millionaire, living large in his $18 Mn estate on the Potomac. He was never a doctor of anything except evil, lies and drug profits.
No idea who Kogon is but by Christ he is absurd. Maybe another paid shill and shrill for the fake news and fake science.
I haven’t read RFKs book on Fauci but have read quotes often on here from the book. Lab Leak is just one issue (Covid has never been isolated) Are they saying he never played a part taking down the Great Barrington Declaration. All this mask BS was supposed to come from him, yet in the article yesterday he said he didn’t know where this advice came from. Just plucked it out of this air. People were having punch ups in Supermarkets over the wearing of masks cos some dude in the CDC recommended them. We know the real reason, because it was a psychological tool of control.
Please read RFK’s book, even if you only get through the first 30 pages or so you will learn an unbelievable amount about what went on. It is truly horrific what that bastard and his colleagues have been involved in for decades.
All of it is cross checked and nothing has ever been taken to Court that RFK says.
Seconded.
Fauci told the truth?
Sorry for the rather disingenuous response here, but:
Bwahahahahahaaaaa!
Sorry to have to put it so bluntly here, Robert, but you’ve been #FooledByFauci. He is a very clever wordsmith.
Fauci was very well aware how the community would view (and denounce) Kristian Andersen if he dared to “publish a scientific paper supporting his hypothesis”. And Fauci was too clever to put his name to anything like that. He was handing Kristian a loaded gun. Kristian realised it, and also realised what would happen to him if he didn’t recant by pushing the “zoonotic jump” crap.
The sooner Fauci goes to hell the better.
Anthony “I am the science” Fauci.
Slicker than weasel shit. Dirty in so many ways. With the full weight of the US national security apparatus behind him, I can’t believe he was sidelined and ignored as suggested here.
In this household, Fauci is known as Dr. Faustus. And Hell is his, as with the said doctor, his final destination.
Off-T
At times a somewhat sarcastic look at the absurdities pushed by the EU, although we are hardly exempt, in portraying normal, decent, moral, patriotic and upstanding citizens as “Far Right.”
The author makes it quite clear that he is not in any way blaming the likes of Fond of Lying, the Micron and other assorted EU leaders for the recent murders and attempted murders in Italy, Germany and Slovakia.
What Richard Ings (author) does make clear is that this demonisation of decency is turning nasty.
https://www.conservativewoman.co.uk/fascists-fascists-everywhere-in-the-eus-woke-imagination/
I’ll see your ‘Off-topic’ and raise you…another ‘Off-topic’! 😉 You’re just such a bad influence, hux. **Trigger warning for the resident whingebags**
Talk about lightening striking twice. Another knife attack in Mannheim, Germany last night. This time the victim was an AfD member, but his wounds were not serious, thankfully. Seriously though, what sort of person says to themselves before they leave the house: ”Okay, wallet, phone, keys, knife/machete/Samurai sword. Let’s go!” Is this literally the new norm all over Europe now?
”In a shocking attack in the city of Mannheim, Baden-Württemberg, Heinrich Koch, a 62-year-old AfD (Alternative for Germany) local council candidate, was attacked and injured with a knife late on Tuesday evening. The attack occurred just seven days after a police officer’s murder in the same city, raising concerns about the escalating violence in the region.
According to local police, the incident occurred around 10:30 p.m. near a market square. The AfD district association reported that Koch had caught individuals tearing down election posters. When he intervened, he was attacked by three people. The attackers, armed with a carpet knife, inflicted injuries to Koch’s ear and abdomen.”
https://rairfoundation.com/germany-afd-politician-attacked-knife-mannheim-days-after/
Mogs, the fact that the authorities clearly do not want to stop this behaviour suggests they are keen for it to continue. I have a nasty feeling similar incidents will start to occur in the UK. It’s almost a deliberate ‘brew-up.’
Also on Vine when discussing the milkshaking of Farage, nobody mentioned Tommy was the first to get targeted my the milkshake mob. Maybe if Jo Brand was approaching Farage with a drink he should be on his guard.
That was a good article!
Thank you.
Isn’t the author rather assuming that the documentary evidence is full and accurate? Isn’t that a rather bold assumption given the participants? I mean, I’ve been to lots of minuted meetings and exchanged emails with people on subjects, and quite often certain aspects and decisions are discussed in corridors and in unrecorded phone conversations.
Any Mafia Boss worth his salt could always honestly say he did not have rivals killed.
I wonder what the author thinks is explicit in ‘the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth’; why it is the oath taken in a Court of Law?
The truth can hide many lies.
Would be nice if he could also confirm that the DHS, the CIA and the Pentagon led the entire pandemic response with the public health/medical class just there for the PR role (who would trust a general on health risks?). This is the
end.
It seems that unlikely that something like “Covid” could happen without the enthusiastic participation of the bodies you name – they have immense resources, broad remit as soon as they invoke “national security” and a long history of dishonesty and interference.
How the deep state played Trump. The name Deborah Birx comes up A LOT!
https://rumble.com/v4iuf0l-it-wasnt-fauci-how-the-deep-state-really-played-trump.html?playlist_id=watch-history
I suspect The Donald is now well aware of how he was played during the Scamdemic and if he makes it to the White House he will exact his revenge.
Nonsense – read RFKs book. He was never a “non player”. People with his ego are hardly uninvolved. Even if he did bidding of genocidal One Worlders he’s just as guilty as any, maybe more because the world follows US largely. You are falling into a trap – unless he names names its all a clown show.
From what I’ve read of this article Fauci is the Holy Grandmother of Saint Mother Theresa Zelensky and akin to Jesus in his pureness.
My biggest issue with this article is in this paragraph:
“But in what sort of ass-backwards logical universe is telling someone to publish a paper supporting the ‘lab leak’ hypothesis evidence of trying to suppress the ‘lab leak’ hypothesis?”
Well, there is an obvious flaw here: the agreement reached was, against all the evidence, to announce to the world it was of natural origins. Now what kind of ass backward Universe decides that it is perfectly natural when there was no evidence suggesting it was?
The author clearly seeks to do a Starmer. As to Holy Grandmother Fauci having nothing to do with it there is a further glaring question: how come Fauci chaired the meeting and released the consensus? Fauci is guilty of Holy Sin despite being a Holy Grandmother. We all know it but the author seemingly is in denial. Maybe he went to Confession and was told to blame Drosten?
Is Drosten innocent? Most definitely not but claiming Fauci is innocent of all charges is completely and utterly ridiculous. Is Paula Vennels guilty? Fauci was in a similar position as leader was he not?
It all represents, especially his coronation before the AIDS epidemic, a surrender to the Ahrimanic or deadening forces in our culture, the tyranny of numbers. Any individual could probably measure their own success in life in terms of accordance with this force. Rudolf Steiner talked about this time we are living in and the final attempts of the Ahrimanic to take over everything. It cannot succeed ultimately because it is out of accordance with human nature but it can build a black iron prison that can last for a long time. The mystery schools have been reluctant to talk about the eighth sphere but it is a real threat and if it can be brought to world attention then perhaps humanity can avoid it.
Indeed – and Steiner noted a century back that this decade in this century would see Ahriman incarnated on earth. And we see evil stalking the planet. Ahriman is in effect the Lucifer of extreme materialism, technology and the destruction of the human spirit. Steiner also noted that vaccination would be used to destroy the human soul.
Downtickers – never explain their downtick.
https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/rudolf-steiner-vaccines-mircea-constantin-serban
There was no lab leak. There was no novel ‘virus’ just the usual flu and pneumonia.
Fauci Told the Truth: Others Led the Conspiracy to Suppress the Lab Leak Theory
No, he was party to it. He was involved in all the important calls/emails
On 31 January 2020 they all thought it looked engineered
Kristian G Andersen to Anthony Fauci- Jeremy Farrar
” Unusual features are just 0.1% One has to look closely to see that some of the features (potentially) look engineered.” “Eddy, Bob, Mike, and myself all find the genome inconsistent with expectations from evolutionary theory.”
By 2 February they decided to protect the science.
Francis Collins to Jeremy Farrar Anthony Fauci
A swift convening of experts in a confidence-inspiring framework -WHO seams the only option- or the voices of conspiracy will quickly dominate, doing great potential harm to science and international harmony.
As soon as 9 February the take down started.
Paper- Proximal Origins of Sars-Cov-2 Kristian G Andersen and others flipped from not sure in 2 days and had time to write a paper.
The payback from Anthony Fauci
27 Aug 2020 Kristian G Andersen rewarded.
New NIAID funded centre (AF) $8.9M grant to KA. Andersen lab at Scripps research institute
“But Anthony Fauci, clearly measuring his words, told the truth”. No. To be party to all this, to not push back against it, he is equally implicated.