Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau’s new Online Harms Act will allow judges to give life sentences to those who commit speech crimes on social media, as critics slam it as “Orwellian” and an “overreach”. The Mail has more.
The Handmaid’s Tale author Margaret Atwood said the bill was “Lettres de Cachet all over again”, referring to royal diktat for imprisoning citizens made by former Kings of France.
“The possibilities for revenge false accusations and thoughtcrime stuff are sooo inviting!” Atwood warned on X, formerly Twitter. “Trudeau’s Orwellian online harms bill.”
The proposed law, introduced last month by the Liberal Government, gives judges the power to imprison adults for life if they advocate genocide online, up from the previous maximum penalty of five years in prison.
The bill also increases the maximum term in prison from two years to five years for the willful promotion of hatred online.
It also allows a provincial judge to impose house arrest and a fine if there were reasonable grounds to believe a defendant “will commit” an offence.
Conservative writer Stephen Moore called the law “the most shocking of all the totalitarian, illiberal and anti-Enlightenment pieces of legislation that have been introduced in the Western world in decades”.
Justice Minister Arif Virani, who introduced the bill, said, as a father, he was “terrified of the dangers that lurk on the internet for our children”.
He argued that laws exist regulating the safety of toys his kids play with, but not the “screen that is in our children’s faces”.
Sadly, popular opinion backs the censorious legislation, with nearly 70% of Canadians supporting it according to the National Post, despite only 41% saying they believe it will actually make the internet safer for children.
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Profanity and abuse will be removed and may lead to a permanent ban.
And there’s more: Complaints are free to file, anonymous accusations and secret testimony are permitted, and accusers can reap a $20,000 payout, with an additional $50,000 going direct to Trudeau’s government. Victims of false accusations may be heavily fined and imprisoned without even knowing the names of their accusers.
The similarities to historical “witch trials” are shocking: the convicted victim’s property was seized, with one-third going to the Church, one-third to the State, and one-third to the accuser.
How on earth could any Canadian legislator vote for such a monstrous proposal?
Introduced by the Muslim “Justice Minister” Arif Virani, using fake concern for children to impose Sharia Law. He’s an Ismaili Muslim, from a cult originally of assassins.
Well said. Yes anything and everything can be ‘hate speech’.
Gender, Climate, criticising the fagboy Castro, the government, the Muslim Jihad, open borders, the useless Socialised
HealthDeath Care system, Rona, the forever Uke war, opposing the clapping for Nazis in Pharma-ment…Private conversations will be reported one assumes.
A KGB is the new freedom. Lubyanka renamed Castroanka.
As the Muslim Jihadi Minister sells it, all to ‘protect the children….’ Who can possibly oppose the ‘safety of the children’s children’s children?’ Right out of Mein Kampf.
More worrying is that over 70% of people allegedly support the law, it will come back to bite them in the backside.
Trudeau will soon have a very fat bank account and millions imprisoned as he is a major targe.
It’s the job of parents to make the internet (and the world in general) “safe” for children – but not too safe. Prevent major harms, let them learn from minor harms.
All porn should be banned worldwide as a Satanic corruption of humanity.
Well the argument for that is more complex IMO. I generally favour letting people go to hell their own way, especially these days. If people are harmed in the making of it, then existing laws ought to protect them.
You might actually cause millions more sexual assaults and rapes by doing that.
There are unintended consequences to all actions
Like there were before the internet..?
Maybe you forgot about the adult magazines and videos that were all over newsagents. Children should not have access to the stuff, but it’s not a good idea to try and be the morality police for adults. There has always been porn and brothels, you say that in old Pompeii. Liberal Progressives will regulate and control everything we do supposedly all for our own good. I am sorry but those are the worst kind of busy bodies.
Indeed, people need to be careful what they wish for. We all know what they say about wishes.
Absolute codswallop. Gang Rape was virtually UNKNOWN IN THE WEST before the Mass Third World Invasion.
The Satanic Globalists use porn to make the whole of humanity obsessed with sex, and the more porn people watch, the more they crave extreme forms of it, which always leads to child porn.
Sex is a Soul Trap.
Define porn. Go on. And “I know it when I see it” doesn’t count.
Something might be considered “pornography” in one country or community but just be considered erotica in another. However most people would define it as pictures, films or words that is for the intention of sexual excitement.
Otherwise known as “VOYEURISM”.
VOYEURISM.
I despair of the Canadians, a people I used to admire. Very much like the Australians, totally defeated it seems to me. But I’m not sure we are any better.
Don’t fall into that trap, hux. There are only people. All these imposed and sadly arbitrary definitions, like “Australian”, “Canadian”, “British” – they’re just silly labels. Usually brought about to control, divide and conquer.
I know, I know. People need an identity to cling on to, something bigger than them. A set of ideals to live by. And I wish it could work. But it never does, it just serves to wind up the worst in “society”.
The only identity for me is… me. And my ideals, my own decisions, the people I choose to work with, whatever label they’ve been assigned. And the best possible at that moment. I may later find I was wrong, so be it, but my decisions.
The strongest and most effective groups of people who truly work together are always to be found trying to rid themselves of the machinations of the blob. Funny, that…
The film Divergent (2014) has an interesting take on things. Recommended.
Thanks for the response M A k.
Our masters make a lot of bad mistakes and even do evil, but still we are better than Canada’s
I meant to say “ours” not “we”
Starmer: ‘Hold my pint…’
I expect the number of “new Canadians” is having quite an impact on the country’s culture. And don’t forget that Trudeau has French ancestry and two examples to follow: the Anciet Regime AND Robspierre.
The claim 70% of Canadians approval is nonsense. Nobody approves of this insanity. 75% of Canadians want Trudeau gone now and have been calling for Turdeau to call an election. Trudeau is being propped up by Singh and the NDP. Singh is a young WEF leader also. Trudeau is in power with the smallest minority in history. Conservative leader Polievre is polling to win the largest majority government in Canadian history.
That 70% figure may be from the notorious “YouGov”, founded by Iraqi Muslim Nadhim Zahawi, who later put it in his wife’s name to avoid any conflict-of-interest inquiries in Parliament. He’s yet another invader desperate to become UK Prime Minister.
Is Singh the Sikh also trying to replace Fidelito as Canadian leader?
I remember news reports of Sikh boys in Canada whose parents won legal action to give them special permission to wear their Disembowelling Daggers to school.
I totally disagree with imprisoning people for speech crimes, but if anyone is given a life sentence lets hope it’s people calling for jihad or chanting “from the river to the sea”.
“I totally disagree with imprisoning people for speech crimes”
Clearly not and such legislation will be used to target everyone.
Life imprisonment for speech the chosen-minority-of-the-day find distasteful yet never any prosecution for the same legislators who cause actual death and destruction.
When Labour gets in it’ll be game over and if you complain about something such as this in parliament today that will be considered a hate crime, Islamophobic hate speech and you’ll be labelled a far-right extremist. I wonder if this is Galloway’s doing…;
”Islamic call in British parliament today. UK has now taken a clear and precise direction. A very dangerous direction.”
https://twitter.com/RadioGenoa/status/1768365545592668618
God Almighty.
What the hell?
Not acceptable at any level.
Hmm … what do you expect from an All Party Parliamentary Muslim Group during Ramadan?
They can do that in a mosque, not in the British Parliament, any more than Sikhs can brandish their swords and Disembowelling Daggers in Parliament, or Hindus can smear milk on their stone lingams in Parliament.
What has been the response from the Council of Muslims to the atrocities of 7/7.London Bridge, Manchester Arena, Westminster Bridge, the Rotherham child rape gangs? Why is it that after these atrocities (and all the rest) it is the victim culture that does the ‘building bridges’ thing?
Correct. ——When the government can listen to what you say in your own living room and then haul you off to the gulag we are in deep trouble. When are people going to realise that these Liberal Progressive Governments are full on Communists. Or as someone once pointed out “There is no tyranny worse than the one that terrorises you for your own good”
Of course not. It will be selectively enforced, because tyranny is always whimsical.
“[the new law would give] judges the power to imprison adults for life if they advocate genocide online, up from the previous maximum penalty of five years in prison.”
Seems fairly reasonable, one might say, aside from the usual problems of deciding what “advocating” means. But then you realise that Turdeau’s definition of “genocide” would probably equate to boshing him on the nose during a Friday night out at the local pub.
I thank the sprayer of that little mustache. Such a quick, simple gesture, and so apt. Turdeau couldn’t find any terrorists sporting long beards, turbans and brown robes, so decided to turn on his own people.
Maybe if Arif Virani dressed up a bit, Turdeau might wake up? Hahaha
The world is made by and for adults. Children are protected from large parts of the adult world and are progressively exposed to adult life by their parents, family members and the wider community. This gradual exposure into adulthood is so that children become adults and can protect themselves. Trying to make life child friendly while at the same time treating adults as incapable of responsibility is likely to be catastrophic to Western civilisation.
The following extract is from a gliding safety talk by Steve Longland in 1990. Although this is about gliding safety it directly relates to this subject
THE LAW OF RULES
It is often thought that the easy way to make everything safer is to create more and more rules and regulations. If that is what Flight Safety is aiming at, then it is heading straight for complete failure.
Rules and regulations are thoroughly incestuous, breed amongst themselves and become more and more complicated. This seems inevitable. The people asked to formulate rules must be seen to be doing their job (otherwise why employ them?). Eventually we, who are asked to abide by their decisions upon pain of punishment, find it impossible to remember them all, even to recall the simple fact that rule 2/V9 only applies in situation 3Qrt/B5 (What else?!). Is there a rule to cover every situation? If not, and we are relying on the rule in order to be safe, we’ve had it if we find ourselves in a non-ruled situation. In an emergency you don’t usually have time to refer to the book.
A fundamental point about being alive, I would have thought, is that life is not completely safe and does not come with a guarantee of survival and, personally, I have a good deal of sympathy with the view that states, “protect people from the results of their own folly and you end up with a world full of fools”.
As a result of fear, regulations are often quickly and thoughtlessly created that hold within them the seeds of future disasters. This does not mean that all regulations are stupid. At their best they form a code of agreed behaviour. At their worst, rules are made to protect everybody except the person who ends up having the accident. In addition, laws don’t make people good any more than wagging a dog’s tail makes him happy.
This is where you come in. If you can’t take responsibility for yourself, then somebody else will, and that will make you even less capable of being responsible for yourself. You will then be more of a hazard than you were before and yet another rule will come into being.
The aim of flying instruction is, or should be, to help you gain safely, sufficient skills to be able to look after yourself. Anything which goes beyond that would seem to be counter-productive….
Exactly. I’ve said it before, here also, that too many people think there are “dangerous activities” which should better be banned.
No. There is only INCOMPETENCE.
“Ooo, aren’t you scared riding that motorbike?!”
“Ooo, aren’t you scared, riding that bicycle without a helmet?”
Go back to Kindergarten, FFS. You wouldn’t say this sort of thing to the pilot of the plane taking your pale arse to Lanzarote, would you?! And that arse would be a different hue if he asked you to land the thing, because you are INCOMPETENT AND A FOREVER CHILD!
Great comment, sskinner. I have calmed down now.
And, you will know this, but this also applies as many many people just don’t want to be outside the group, but…
“The object of life is not to be on the side of the majority, but to escape finding yourself in the ranks of the insane.”
Marcus Aurelius
Does anyone remember Fred Hill?
“The history of the Motorcycle Action Group has been set by Fred Hill, a former army dispatch rider during WW2. Many people will recall the extraordinary example he set in defying the compulsory helmet law throughout the nineteen seventies and eighties. Nowhere in the world has anyone made such exceptional sacrifices in the name of biker’s freedoms.”
History of the Motorcycle Action group – a captivating story (mag-uk.org)
He protested for years at the injustice of Sikhs being granted special permission to refuse to wear motorcycle helmets, while Englishmen like him were arrested again and again for refusing. He died in prison for it, aged 74, reportedly after being waterboarded yet again.
This is worth a watch: Matthew Crawford: the dangers of Safetyism (youtube.com)
“Safety Third” is what I believe in. So what is first and second then? Liberty and justice for all, not necessarily in that order.
Indeed. As Iris Murdoch put it “Human life is chancy and incomplete”
So true
If you’ve not read it, I recommended her “The Sovereignty of Good”. It’s philosophy but it’s well written and not up itself, and full of wisdom.
Well-said
Turdeau (sic) is a Liberal? Pull the other one.
https://miri.substack.com/p/things-can-only-get-better?triedRedirect=true
A very thought provoking article from Miri A F.
The collapse of the monarchy on the way? It has all been planned.
The non-existent measles scare is being ramped up in order to hurry up the digital ID con. And / or mandatory vaccines.
https://off-guardian.org/2024/03/13/measles-mayhem-where-is-this-going/
Kit Knightly on fine form.
BreakingNews.
https://www.conservativewoman.co.uk/gove-names-five-extremist-groups-in-parliament/
https://www.patrioticalternative.org.uk/open_letter_michael_gove
And this is an extremely well-constructed response from Patriotic Alternative.
Forget history and you will repeat it. —–We used to think that stuff like this only happened in tyrannical communist regimes. Maybe the Soviet Union, or North Korea etc. —–When are the public going to finally realise that these Liberal Progressive governments are just latter day communists? We have one here in Scotland as well with their determination to control what everyone says and thinks. Even inside our own living rooms—— Wakey wakey people ——-Your FREEDOM is being removed. —–The Progressives are boiling you like the lobster slowly slowly slowly so you don’t notice it.
It would be nice to think that the King was “advising” the Canadian Wannabe-Dictator against this kind of tyranny.
But sadly, since Charlie-Boy is an enthusiastic supporter of Schwab and the WEF – who selected Trudeau for the job of destroying Canada – it won’t be happening.
Coming to Britain very soon.
If people are concerned about what their children see on line perhaps they should take the laptop and phone away from them. As the majority of bullying and hate towards children is carried out by children themselves do these laws apply to children?
Whats the point of taking responsibility for your actions when there are Whitehall bureaucrats prepared to do that for you.
Justin Castreau is showing even more of his dark side. This will be the kiss of death for any semblance of a free society.
As noted in the story, you do not have to actually do anything to be convicted.
They only have to believe that you might do something wrong/do something they deem that might be illegal according to the bill, in their opinion.
For some, hate speech = all opinions different from their opinions.
Therefore all other opinions could be censored and people fined, imprisonned, for having opposing opinions.