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Budget Will Increase Energy Bills by £1.4 Billion to Subsidise Wind Power

by David Turver
7 March 2024 9:00 AM

Yesterday, the Chancellor used his Budget to announce how much of our money will be allocated to renewables in Allocation Round 6 (AR6). This was positioned as “major backing” to the renewables sector.

The overall budget will be set at £1,025m in 2011-12 prices, which equates to over £1.4bn in today’s money (using the inflation factor of 1.3956 in the budget notice). This represents a 352% increase on the final budget for AR5 (see Figure 1).

Figure 1 - Change in Overall CfD Budget by Allocation ROund (£m)
Figure 1 – Change in Overall CfD Budget by Allocation Round (£m)

To put this in context, £1.4bn is around £50 per household. It is almost as much as the £1.6bn spent on CfD (contracts for differences) subsidies up to late February in the current fiscal year (see Figure 2). The AR6 budget is also around two-thirds of what Ofgem forecasts the existing CfDs will cost in the next financial year. However, the current and next fiscal years cover all allocation rounds since 2017 and yesterday’s announcement is for just one round.

Figure 2 - CfD Renewables Subsidies by Fiscal Year Ended (£)
Figure 2 – CfD Renewables Subsidies by Fiscal Year Ended (£)

The overall budget has been split into three pots. Pot 1 allocates £120m to: Energy from Waste with CHP, Hydro, Landfill Gas, Onshore Wind, Sewage Gas, Remote Island Wind and Solar. Pot 2 assigns £105m to Advanced Conversion Technologies, Anaerobic Digestion, Dedicated Biomass, Floating Offshore Wind, Geothermal, Tidal Stream and Wave power.

The lion’s share of the budget of the budget is allocated to Pot 3, with £800m earmarked for offshore wind. Up to the full £800m could be allocated to what are termed “Permitted Reduction” projects. These projects are those that won contracts in earlier rounds and have now admitted that they cannot deliver for the price they agreed. The wording of what this means exactly is somewhat opaque:

This process has allowed projects to withdraw a maximum of 25% of their original total project capacity from their CfD contract and now use that reduced capacity to bid into AR6 as a standalone project.

Does it mean that if say, a 1GW project won a contract in AR4 can now withdraw up to 250MW from that project and bid it in AR6, or does it mean that the project can be reduced to at least 750MW and the whole reduced project can be bid into AR6? Either way, projects awarded at low prices in earlier rounds can now apply for an extra bung which rather makes a mockery of claims than wind is nine times cheaper than gas.

An amount up to the full £800m can also be allocated to new offshore wind projects.

Big Increase in CfD Strike Prices Confirmed

As has been discussed previously, no offshore wind projects won contracts in AR5 because the prices on offer were too low. Accordingly, the Government has taken the opportunity to confirm the strike prices on offer for AR6 will be considerably higher than in AR5 (see Figure 3).

Figure 3 - Change in CfD Strike Prices from AR5 to AR6 (£ per MWh)
Figure 3 – Change in CfD Strike Prices from AR5 to AR6 (£ per MWh)

In 2024 money, offshore wind prices rise 66% from £61/MWh in AR5 to £102/MWh in AR6. Onshore wind goes up 21% to £89/MWh and large-scale solar increases 30% to £85/MWh. All these prices are notably above the average reference price so far in February 2024 of around £59/MWh used to calculate existing subsidies. Typically, this reference price is set by gas, so guess what, all these new renewables are going to be considerably more expensive than current gas-fired generation. Electricity bills are never coming down, and it seem ministers don’t care and they are on a death wish to kill the economy and further impoverish the poor.

Conclusions

The Government may try its best to position this as ‘major backing’ for the renewables sector. What it really means is it is massively undermining the energy consumer by adding another £1.4bn to electricity bills. It claims it is shielding us from volatile fossil fuel prices, but at the same time, it extended the windfall tax on energy companies, thus ensuring investment in new sources of supply falls and either we import more gas or the price goes up.

And remember, these CfD strike prices are index-linked, so the nominal price will go up each year with inflation, permanently baking in high electricity prices. What the Government giveth with a cut in National Insurance, it taketh away in subsidies for renewables. Consumers have been sacrificed on the altar of Net Zero, again.

David Turver writes the Eigen Values Substack page, where this article first appeared.

Tags: BudgetClimate AlarmismJeremy HuntNet ZeroRenewable energy

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    loopDloop
    loopDloop
    3 years ago

    All the professors with their bloated nonsense.

    We know what’s going on.

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    rockoman
    rockoman
    3 years ago

    delete

    Last edited 3 years ago by rockoman
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    miketa1957
    miketa1957
    3 years ago
    Reply to  rockoman

    Flu immunity might have weakened because flu almost completely vanished last season. I’m betting it is not coming back this year either. Also see my comment about people testing negative for several days before testing positive.

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    RW
    RW
    3 years ago
    Reply to  miketa1957

    This sound awfully like people who keep testing themselves for COVID for no particular reason until they manage to come up with a positive result.

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    miketa1957
    miketa1957
    3 years ago
    Reply to  RW

    In the cases of the people we know, their symptoms really were Covid-like. Also serious enough for some people to be off for 3-4 weeks but not quite needing hospital, so would not count in the statistics.

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    Silke David
    Silke David
    3 years ago
    Reply to  miketa1957

    Before March 2020 we would have said I have a bad cold.
    Why is this cold like Covid now?
    Why not say Covid is a bad cold?

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    crisisgarden
    crisisgarden
    3 years ago
    Reply to  Silke David

    Heresy! I am deplatforming you for misinformation and heterodoxy.

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    ebygum
    ebygum
    3 years ago
    Reply to  Silke David

    …I suspect so that they can keep it going forever….if ALL colds are now considered deathlyCovid and ALL colds have to be tested for, and then you have to isolate, test, have passports….blah, blah, blah….you’ve got the sheep in a constant loop that they can’t ever get out of!

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    gone_loopy
    gone_loopy
    3 years ago
    Reply to  ebygum

    People tell me about someone they know with symptoms and I’m like so what?

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    vlysander
    vlysander
    3 years ago
    Reply to  ebygum

    Matt Hancock did say testing is here to stay and people will not only test for covid but for flu too…obviously I am not one of those people but sadly many are.

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    Banjones
    Banjones
    3 years ago
    Reply to  vlysander

    We should NOT do it. It’s playing their game.

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    Think Harder
    Think Harder
    3 years ago
    Reply to  vlysander

    Gotta keep the money flowing in the right direction.

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    RW
    RW
    3 years ago
    Reply to  Silke David

    An important point: Something which can’t be distinguished from a cold is necessarily a cold.

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    Norman
    Norman
    3 years ago
    Reply to  RW

    Yet they still test for extreme temperatures at my doctor and dentist before they will let you in.

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    Gefion
    Gefion
    3 years ago
    Reply to  Norman

    My neighbour is a Brownie leader and takes the temperature of the Brownies as they arrive at the meeting. This is a private citizen testing children – and the parents are all for it! I’m aghast.

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    JohnK
    JohnK
    3 years ago
    Reply to  Norman

    At my Dentists, back in Feb, soon after they reopened following the panic shutdown, they did that, but in August they had abandoned it. Even let wait in the waiting room then, nor did I have to sterilise my hands.

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    Milo
    Milo
    3 years ago
    Reply to  RW

    Indeed.

    “They present so similarly that only PCR testing can differentiate between the two. “

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    Norman
    Norman
    3 years ago
    Reply to  Silke David

    It used to be called man-flu but of course that is proscribed now.

    Last edited 3 years ago by For a fist full of roubles
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    RickH
    RickH
    3 years ago
    Reply to  Silke David

    From what I’ve seen, there is a distinction around theloss of taste and/or smell for a period.

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    Milo
    Milo
    3 years ago
    Reply to  RickH

    Erm, that usually happens to me when I get a cold. Are you telling me I have had covid for the last 50 odd years without knowing it?

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    RickH
    RickH
    3 years ago
    Reply to  Milo

    No. But it’s never been symptomatic of any cold that I’ve had. I’m relaying what people with genuine SARS infection have credibly told me.

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    Think Harder
    Think Harder
    3 years ago
    Reply to  Milo

    Aha – we have found the Typhoid Mary of COVID!

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    Anti_socialist
    Anti_socialist
    3 years ago
    Reply to  RickH

    Respiratory disease first port of entry is?

    Starter for bonus points, which parts of the body are first affected by respiratory disease?

    Extra bonus points, what are the common early symptoms of nearly all respiratory diseases?

    What part of impossible to clinically diagnose don’t you understand?

    May I suggest you stop getting your information from the Daily Mail or No10.

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    RickH
    RickH
    3 years ago
    Reply to  Anti_socialist

    “stop getting your information from the Daily Mail or No10″

    Undoubtedly, there are a lot of misdiagnoses in this shit-show – but that really is a twerp of an arsehole’s comment. There’s enough reality deniers amongst the Covidiots. The observation comes from people who’ve had a distinctive type of infection – whatever you call it.

    Stopping up your ears and singing ‘La la la’ isn’t ‘scepticism’ – it is unbalanced reality denial. It’s just grist to the Narrative mill – reinforcing the idea that ‘sceptics’ are just religious idiots.

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    RickH
    RickH
    3 years ago
    Reply to  RickH

    I’m interested in the down-voting thick-as-a-brick reality deniers who seem to be on the side of 77th Brigade. This is a genuine, verifiable observation about a noticeable proportion of SARS-CoV-2 infections.

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    SAGE LIARS
    SAGE LIARS
    3 years ago
    Reply to  Silke David

    The trillions of symptoms from this bullshit virus and bullshit test are a paradise for the ‘hey look at me, I’ve got/had CONvid’ hypochondriac type

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    RW
    RW
    3 years ago
    Reply to  miketa1957

    So-called COVID symptoms are entirely unspecific, ie, just those common to all respiratory infections. There’s none I didn’t have before COVID at times, although the loss of sense of taste seemed to be new for fall 2019’s flu from hell. Assuming these tests are at least remotely reliable, someone who’s got symptoms but tested negatively for Sars-CoV2 multiple times obviously can’t have symptoms caused by it.

    NB: I specifically don’t mean to imply anything about the possible (hidden) motivations of the people who did this.

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    gone_loopy
    gone_loopy
    3 years ago
    Reply to  miketa1957

    Flu vanished? You sure?

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    MrTea
    MrTea
    3 years ago
    Reply to  gone_loopy

    Vanished in a puff of rebranding.

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    Norman
    Norman
    3 years ago
    Reply to  MrTea

    and misdiagnosis.

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    Anti_socialist
    Anti_socialist
    3 years ago
    Reply to  Norman

    Relabelled 😉

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    janvanruth
    janvanruth
    3 years ago
    Reply to  gone_loopy

    it indeed vanished.
    in the netherlands designated family doctors send blood specimen of patients, taken for other purposes, to be examined for virusses to a central lab.
    they have done so for years.
    the outcome shows that the flu actually has all but disappeared over the last year and a half.
    and the university if glasgow has found out why. https://academic.oup.com/jid/article/224/1/31/6179975

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    186NO
    186NO
    3 years ago
    Reply to  janvanruth

    Lets hope I get the super cold and survive it….

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    marebobowl
    marebobowl
    3 years ago
    Reply to  miketa1957

    No flu this winter in Australia, why would the Uk get it?

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    Banjones
    Banjones
    3 years ago
    Reply to  miketa1957

    It didn’t ”vanish” though, did it? It was announced in September 2020 that flu figures would be added to ‘covid’ figures and all be designated ‘covid’.

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    miketa1957
    miketa1957
    3 years ago

    Not sure about this.

    Where my wife works, several people who have been double-jabbed have come down with something Covid-like that tests negative for a few days, before testing positive for Covid. She and a colleague who have not been jabbed have been absolutely fine. It was reported that some health person from Bath and NE Somerset (where we are) had said that this had been noticed in this area.

    I’m thinking this is actually the affects of the vaccine immunity (which only targets the spike, as opposed to wild-type immunity which targets all of the virus) waning.

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    hellsbells
    hellsbells
    3 years ago
    Reply to  miketa1957

    Un-vaccinated, I’m into my second week of a rotten cold (caught from my granddaughter – please don’t kill granny). My double jabbed husband has it too, annoyingly not so badly as me, I’m fed up!

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    ebygum
    ebygum
    3 years ago
    Reply to  hellsbells

    When my two grand children were at infant school, me and mr gum had colds pretty much all the time it seemed…..its pretty normal, or at least it was until deadlyCovid! Hope you feel better soon.

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    HelzBelz
    HelzBelz
    3 years ago
    Reply to  hellsbells

    Hello HB! I am also an un-injected HB with a double stabbed hubby. Hope you feel better soon.

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    hellsbells
    hellsbells
    3 years ago
    Reply to  HelzBelz

    Hi HB, I’m jealous of your clever name 🙂

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    crisisgarden
    crisisgarden
    3 years ago
    Reply to  hellsbells

    I had that cold and it was dreadful; I was off work for two days, something I’ve never had to do for a cold ever!

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    Milo
    Milo
    3 years ago
    Reply to  crisisgarden

    No crisisgarden, you were not “off work”. You were ‘self isolating’

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    crisisgarden
    crisisgarden
    3 years ago
    Reply to  Milo

    Oh yes, sorry.

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    hellsbells
    hellsbells
    3 years ago
    Reply to  hellsbells

    Thank you for your good wishes, I think I’m coming out the other end!
    Incidentally husband says he is not having the booster and nor is my oldest granddaughter (at 20 she was far too young anyway, I tried my best to persuade her not to)
    PS: I think I may be posting this in the wrong position, I’ve not quite got to grips with things here…

    Last edited 3 years ago by hellsbells
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    Norman
    Norman
    3 years ago
    Reply to  hellsbells

    Your sentiments matter wherever you post them.

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    Think Harder
    Think Harder
    3 years ago
    Reply to  hellsbells

    Damn, there goes my theory only the vaccinated get the Super Cold.

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    ebygum
    ebygum
    3 years ago
    Reply to  miketa1957

    Not to worry the booster shots are proving to be a success…apparently.

    “14 Israelis have been diagnosed with COVID-19 despite having been inoculated with a third COVID-19 vaccine dose, according to Health Ministry data reported by Channel 12 news on Sunday. Eleven of the 14 cases were over the age of 60, and the remaining three were immunocompromised individuals under 60, the network said. The two that were hospitalized were over 60.”

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    RickH
    RickH
    3 years ago
    Reply to  ebygum

    Remember this graphic re. Israeli booster shots? :

    israel-deaths-post-jab-rollout-1631249219.5457.jpg
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    Hugh
    Hugh
    3 years ago
    Reply to  RickH

    Ah but it would have been even worse other wise…

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    Milo
    Milo
    3 years ago
    Reply to  ebygum

    Was reading today about Cliff Richard, thrice jabbed in preparation for his UK tour (aged 80) – wonder if he got the common or garden ‘might cause myocarditis’ jab or whether he got the VIP jab.

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    RickH
    RickH
    3 years ago
    Reply to  miketa1957

    “Testing positive for Covid” – as dodgy as one of those scam calls from Microsoft :

    (a) it doesn’t test for ‘Covid’, which is a secondary reaction
    (b) an RNA fragment ain’t a virus.

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    huxleypiggles
    huxleypiggles
    3 years ago
    Reply to  miketa1957

    Or Anti-body Dependent Enhancement kicking in.

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    Think Harder
    Think Harder
    3 years ago
    Reply to  miketa1957

    There’s another consideration and if anyone on here is an immunologist perhaps they could comment:
    What exactly are the tests detecting and how can we be certain that it only occurs in SARS-CoV-2?

    I’m applying the logic of we don’t know what we don’t know which makes it impossible to state that the tests uniquely identify only this one virus unless they match against the entire virus. You can state it’s highly unlikely just like it’s highly unlikely the earth will be struck by a massive meteorite on the basis it hasn’t for the last 13,000 years but it doesn’t mean it won’t happen tomorrow.

    If a scientist identified other pathogens or just another molecule that generated a +ve result, would anyone listen?

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    crisisgarden
    crisisgarden
    3 years ago

    And so, a civilisation obsessed with its own upper respiratory tract continues its descent into abject madness. Sniffle.

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    crisisgarden
    crisisgarden
    3 years ago
    Reply to  crisisgarden

    Via its own arsehole.

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    martsharm
    martsharm
    3 years ago

    “It is impossible to tell the difference between a cold and Covid clinically.”

    An astonishing admission. Literally no difference in the clinical presentation (symptoms) between the two diseases. Yet one disease we give nary a second thought, the other has changed our way of life completely.

    The two things can’t be simultaneously correct. Either the disease does have considerably more severe symptoms than anything we have seen before, which would justify the actions taken by governments to control it, at the expense of civil liberties.

    Or the professor is correct – that Covid symptoms are indistinguishable from common cold symptoms, in which case governments have overstated the risks to the individual, and instigated a completely over-the-top mitigation strategy which poses immeasurably more threat to public health than the pathogen itself.

    Answers on a postcard…

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    RW
    RW
    3 years ago
    Reply to  martsharm

    To paraphrase Andy Tanenbaum (Dutch professor of computers science): Never underestimate the bandwagonness of a real lot Chinese people freaking out for no particular reason. Our ruling non-elites and most prominent members of the academic class are much to used to bend over backwards automaticakky whenever something involves China! for any good to come out of that.

    [Original quote: Never underestimate the bandwidth of a pickup truck loaded with 8″ tapes..]

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    Dave Angel Eco Warrier
    Dave Angel Eco Warrier
    3 years ago

    Yet another (unforeseen!?!) consequence of lockdown policies. It is a shame no-one was warning of such issues at the beginning of all this. Oh, wait …..!!!

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    Hugh
    Hugh
    3 years ago
    Reply to  Dave Angel Eco Warrier

    Could be worse, you could be New Zealand. I wonder what will happen if they ever fully open up to foreigners again.

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    prod_squadron
    prod_squadron
    3 years ago

    “It is impossible to tell the difference between a cold and Covid clinically.”

    Yep. That’s why it was such a great idea to shut down the world for a couple of years. (sarc.)

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    TheyLiveAndWeLockdown
    TheyLiveAndWeLockdown
    3 years ago
    Reply to  prod_squadron

    Lockdown is a cold war on the people of this country by the globalists.

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    CoronanationStreet
    CoronanationStreet
    3 years ago
    Reply to  TheyLiveAndWeLockdown

    It begs the question why we even bothered with the Cold War when 30 years later our society and values are to be traduced by exactly the form of top down global communism, including the rewriting of history, mass surveillance and punishment which existed in East Germany and the USSR.

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    TheyLiveAndWeLockdown
    TheyLiveAndWeLockdown
    3 years ago
    Reply to  CoronanationStreet

    much as i despise all variants of Marxism , I would describe what’s happened economically to the west as more of a stealthy neo-feudalism than international socialism.

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    Think Harder
    Think Harder
    3 years ago
    Reply to  TheyLiveAndWeLockdown

    Well whatever it is, it will ensure the dominion of the CCP over the world if we keep going like this.

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    Hugh
    Hugh
    3 years ago
    Reply to  CoronanationStreet

    Complete with depression and suicides, another notorious problem in the DDR.

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    Think Harder
    Think Harder
    3 years ago
    Reply to  CoronanationStreet

    Communism or Facism, extreme left or right, all the same thing. A minority enslaving the majority.

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    Milo
    Milo
    3 years ago
    Reply to  prod_squadron

    I wonder if the world will go into lockdown from now on every time a cold virus is deemed to be doing the rounds.

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    JaneDoeNL
    JaneDoeNL
    3 years ago

    “It is impossible to tell the difference between a cold and Covid clinically.”

    What? Did a professor in immunology just say what sceptics have been saying for well over a year? That covid is a cold? Is she going to be blacklisted for this outrageous misinformation? Will Twitter fact checkers correct her evident lack of knowledge?

    Seriously, what does it take? Stick the pointless tests and ‘containment’ measures that contain nothing but our living our lives and focus on people who show serious symptoms and treat the symptoms. Not wasting time and money on testing will free up a lot of resources to – shock horror – actually treat people who need it, rather than torment people who do not.

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    ebygum
    ebygum
    3 years ago

    If ‘clinically’ you can’t tell the difference between Covid and a cold…isn’t that because it’s just a frickin cold? Why the hell would anyone want to get tested for that?
    Do these people even stop for one second and think how utterly mental they sound touting this rubbish? Give me strength!!

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    Noumenon
    Noumenon
    3 years ago

    A nation of hypochondriacs.

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    FrankFisher
    FrankFisher
    3 years ago

    Right…… Any unvaccinated people had one of these “super colds”? No? Hmm.

    So many coincidences right now.

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    crisisgarden
    crisisgarden
    3 years ago
    Reply to  FrankFisher

    Sorry to be a stick in the mud but I did! However I am around jabbed people a lot -shedding? – have I fucking had it without even having it? What a bummer that would be…

    Last edited 3 years ago by crisisgarden
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    Milo
    Milo
    3 years ago
    Reply to  crisisgarden

    I often feel a bit “buggy” after having spent time in the company of a significant number of jabbed people – I wonder too if that is “shedding”

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    crisisgarden
    crisisgarden
    3 years ago
    Reply to  Milo

    Could be psychosomatic but my skin crawls !

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    Think Harder
    Think Harder
    3 years ago
    Reply to  Milo

    No that’s depression at the stupidity of them.
    Ok a little unfair, the stupidity of most of them.

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    RickH
    RickH
    3 years ago

    “If you have any symptoms of respiratory infection you should stay at home to prevent transmission”

    Well. f. me!

    Translation : Do what you should always do if you have a respiratory infection – even a cold. Historically, too many people have struggled into work/close contact because they think its the brave thing to do. In fact – it’s the stupid thing to do.

    It won’t stop spread, but it will mitigate it sensibly, and should have been the basic advice last year, coupled with sensible socializing behaviour for the asmptomatic.

    AS it is, we probably have ludicrously weakened general immunity, which is likely to lead to more severe symptoms.

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    SweetBabyCheeses
    SweetBabyCheeses
    3 years ago
    Reply to  RickH

    I don’t think it’s brave, I’d love time off for a cold but my employer has a punitive warning system that discourages this. My partner would also love the time off but no one picks up his workload when he’s off and it makes work too stressful to return to. Not to mention all the poor people who don’t get paid and have no safety net. Culture has to change. Stuff all the restrictions.

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    JohnK
    JohnK
    3 years ago
    Reply to  SweetBabyCheeses

    That’s true. Historically (i.e. before I retired) it was like that in my trade. In fact, in my early years I probably caught (and transmitted) quite a few ‘common colds’ at work for that reason, given the nature of the buildings I worked in.

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    Rogerborg
    Rogerborg
    3 years ago
    Reply to  RickH

    I was always That Guy in the office who asked people to follow our actual corporate policy and kindly sod off, or be told to sod off, when they came in coughing and sneezing and dripping while claiming, “Oh, I’m probably not contagious”.

    I was the guy who wouldn’t touch common surfaces because I know fine well that most humans are filthy monkeys who never really wash after wiping.

    Then, it was pooh-poohed (aptly enough). What a fuss to make, everybody comes in when they’re sick, it’s not a big deal, it’ll toughen you up.

    Now, I’m the one laughing off the consequences of a 0.3% (with-not-from, at most, and falling) mortality disease, while those who never used to believe in no-see-ums have become the most fervent Branch Covidians, wearing muzzles at their desks even when not required.

    All performance, of course: I still don’t touch the bathroom door handle.

    I don’t have a particular point to make here, other than that most people are, and will remain, skip licking sheep.

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    RickH
    RickH
    3 years ago
    Reply to  Rogerborg

    I agree about sensible behaviour if you’re symptomatic – or know that someone is. But contagion from surfaces is probably not a major issue (it certainly isn’t re. SARS), and you need a certain degree of infection to keep your general immune system going.

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    RW
    RW
    3 years ago
    Reply to  RickH

    Man-flu would be much more appropriately termed boss-flu, as that’s the only guy who gets to take off for it. :->

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    amanuensis
    amanuensis
    3 years ago

    Hmm. Their explanation that ‘our immunity to normal colds has waned’ doesn’t sound particularly believable.

    Most upper respiratory tract infections in those over 5 and under about 55 are dealt with by the innate immune system — this doesn’t have ‘memory’ and just responds to infections as they arise.

    Have the vaccines resulted in a suppressed innate immune system? Either specifically for coronaviruses (all, not just covid) or infections in general?

    You’d think it would be very important to find this out — that there should be investigations into the immune response of individuals to these non-covid infections. There should also be some comparative studies into infection rates of the vaccinated vs unvaccinated, along with disease severity in those two groups.

    But the authorities won’t do this, because it appears to be very important to them to never look for anything that might suggest that the vaccines have led to problems.

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    Nessimmersion
    Nessimmersion
    3 years ago

    The ” Common Sense” trite answer of stay home to prevent spread, doesn’t make logical sense.

    From the article, due to lockdown, reduced interaction, all of our immune systems are less efficient than would normally be the case.

    Therefore to keep our immune systems in tip top condition the logical thing to do is to get exposure to every cold variant going, via people not staying at home.
    Is there any other way to keep your immune system properly primed?

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    gone_loopy
    gone_loopy
    3 years ago

    Apart from a short period last year in June I’ve been living and working normally and not wearing a mask. I can’t see why my immune system would be any weaker than normal.

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    Think Harder
    Think Harder
    3 years ago
    Reply to  gone_loopy

    After the first 3 weeks of first lockdown, at which point I started examining the data, I did my best to mix with anyone willing because it was clearly not very dangerous. I did try to shy away from elderly relatives but they insisted on ignoring it too on the basis they didn’t have much time left and didn’t want to spend it self-imprisoned. Their choice.

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    hurleyp
    hurleyp
    3 years ago

    Hmmm…. their definition of a Super Cold sounds like about 50% of the colds I’ve experienced over the years. Yeah, some colds are worse than others. The bad ones make for a miserable 4 or 5 days before they eventually clear.

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    RickH
    RickH
    3 years ago
    Reply to  hurleyp

    The bad ones can last longer than 4-5 days.

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    Think Harder
    Think Harder
    3 years ago
    Reply to  RickH

    Yep. I’ve had viruses last 4 weeks. On visiting doc after 2 weeks I am usually told; “go way, it’s a virus, if you haven’t improved after 4 weeks come back”.

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    Milo
    Milo
    3 years ago
    Reply to  hurleyp

    We talk about colds but they are talking about a “SuperCold“. Until now I have never come across that as a clinical term, but you learn something new every day!

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    CoronanationStreet
    CoronanationStreet
    3 years ago

    “Professor Alex Richter, of Birmingham University, said: “It is impossible to tell the difference between a cold and Covid clinically.”

    Tells us all that we need to know about the last 18 months worth of nonsense. Rebadged colds used to promulgate fear and drastic societal changes and the pre-destined saviour in the shape of coerced jabs.

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    MrTea
    MrTea
    3 years ago

    Don’t worry I’m sure pharma will have a vaccine (that wanes after 3 months) that will take care of super colds, only £29.99 a shot.
    Of course you’ll need four a year for your vaccine pass to remain valid.

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    DanClarke
    DanClarke
    3 years ago

    I feel vindicated, that I didn’t join in with the Super Nonsense

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    crisisgarden
    crisisgarden
    3 years ago
    Reply to  DanClarke

    Same. Now we all just need to watch it unravel from behind the sofa. With popcorn 🍿

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    cloud6
    cloud6
    3 years ago
    Reply to  crisisgarden

    Can hardly wait… for “Covid The Movie” coming to a cinema near you soon. My popcorn is waiting.

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    crisisgarden
    crisisgarden
    3 years ago
    Reply to  cloud6

    A musical maybe?

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    Dan777
    Dan777
    3 years ago

    I hope it is debt immunity.

    Because Antibody Dependent Enhancement (ADE) was predicted to rise between October 2021 and April 2022 due to the vaccine.

    I’ve seen the videos online, I’ve seen the statistics and now I am seeing it appear in people around me. And the outlook is not good.

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    Think Harder
    Think Harder
    3 years ago
    Reply to  Dan777

    Yep. I’m watching this winter with interest. Fully expecting to be given my yellow star as an un-vaccinated, then shoved on a train to one of the new “Super-prisons”.

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    Rogerborg
    Rogerborg
    3 years ago

    One second.

    It is impossible to tell the difference between a cold and Covid clinically. They present so similarly that only PCR testing can differentiate between the two. 

    COVID-19 is the name of the disease caused by the virus SARS-COV-2. It is not the virus itself.

    If the disease is now symptomatically identical to the disease caused by other coronaviruses, then why even refer to COVID-19 at all?

    This is not an abstract or academic point. We commonly refer to “having a cold” when infected by pretty much anything that causes minor respiratory tract symptoms, whether that’s any of the common cold coronavirus, or a mild dose of any of the influenza viruses, and we don’t assume or get tested for the latter unless the symptoms worsen to the point where they cannot be a common cold.

    But hanging a label on the cause doesn’t alter the seriousness of the disease one whit. You don’t suddenly become sicker when you find out that your mild “cold” is actually influenza.

    And likewise for SARS-COV-2. So why this obsessive zealotry with diagnosing any possible symptom of SARS-COV-2 as being “COVID-19”?

    I say zealotry after careful consideration. This feels a lot more like religious fervour than science.

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    Norman
    Norman
    3 years ago
    Reply to  Rogerborg

    Well said sir.
    The only possible reason for testing after symtoms develop would be if it had any effect on the treatment, but since the treatments are generally only for the symptoms and are not disease specific, then a diagnosis is pointless.
    It is alleged that ivermectin is a profylactic for Covid. There is no reason that I can see that it would also not have the same effect on other respiratory diseases. I would have thought that may be worth investigating as it may hold the clue to minimising all respiratory illnesses. But of course that will enrich no-one important.

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    Think Harder
    Think Harder
    3 years ago
    Reply to  Norman

    We’ve lost 50 years of benefit from research due to the ignorant behaviour and censorship. No matter many are coining it in, that’s all that matters.

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    JohnK
    JohnK
    3 years ago
    Reply to  Rogerborg

    Looks more like stock markets than religion. Years ago, they didn’t want to know, with no specific up market drugs to sell etc for ‘common colds’. A cynic might observe that we are looking at something like “short selling”, in the belief that ‘cases’ will ramp up and increase supplies etc.

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    stewart
    stewart
    3 years ago

    Our society has become a joke.

    Let’s start fretting over a cold. Or covid, which is so terrifying it is apparently indistinguishable from a cold.

    Can someone please slap these hysterical people across the face and tell them to get a grip?

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    RickH
    RickH
    3 years ago

    I was just reflecting on a loosely related topic to do with infantilisation in society (related to Bill Gates as well).

    How many intelligent people get totally pissed off with intrusive hand-holding of a ‘Does he take sugar?’ type when faced with Windows software?

    No! I don’t want to throw money down the drain for more OneDrive space! And I never fucking asked for stuff to be transferred to it in the first place …. and I don’t want fucking ‘Easy Access’ folders clogging up my file application…. and … and …

    I know I can get rid of it all (unlike the Covid scam) – but I shouldn’t have to bother – because none of this is actually good for my blood pressure and health in general!

    Sounds familiar?

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    crisisgarden
    crisisgarden
    3 years ago
    Reply to  RickH

    It does indeed sound familiar. Remember Mr Friendly Paperclip? He should do the coronavirus public information films.

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    TheyLiveAndWeLockdown
    TheyLiveAndWeLockdown
    3 years ago
    Reply to  crisisgarden

    “Hi It looks like you’re trying to live freely” “would you like a lockdown?”

    It’s Gatesy.

    I’m sure someone dev at M$ had just read about Sirius Cybernetics Virtual People Personalities and suggested “clippy” as a piss take…

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    crisisgarden
    crisisgarden
    3 years ago
    Reply to  TheyLiveAndWeLockdown

    Please select your current health status:
    a) Sick
    b) Poorly
    c) Unwell

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    crisisgarden
    crisisgarden
    3 years ago
    Reply to  TheyLiveAndWeLockdown

    Yes. He was called Clippy!

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    PatrickF
    PatrickF
    3 years ago

    Brits are suffering from super BS, that’s all.

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    Bellingcat
    Bellingcat
    3 years ago

    Sounds a lot like ADE (antibody-dependent enhancement) read https://www.nature.com/articles/s41587-020-0577-1 This has been known about for years but was conveniently brushed under the carpet by big pharma, government, and media. Now the media is pushing the fake narrative of lockdown lack of immunity

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    Moderate Radical
    Moderate Radical
    3 years ago

    You can almost taste the desperation.

    ‘Social media is seeing users increasingly talking about having caught a “Super Cold”…’

    Bollocks! Who goes around saying they are suffering with a ‘super cold’? Who does that?!

    Bill: ‘Hello Ron, how are ya?’

    Ron: ‘Not too bad, Bill, considering the super cold I had recently.’

    Do me a favour!

    By the way, Ron went on to tell Bill that the super cold knocked him for twelve!

    Last edited 3 years ago by Moderate Radical
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    KidFury
    KidFury
    3 years ago

    Purely anecdotal but my wife now has her second really nasty cold since vaccination. She is usually pretty hardy when it comes to colds as she is a teacher.

    She actually took today off, her first sick day in about ten years. She is absolutely wiped out.

    I had a slightly blocked nose yesterday and now feel fine.

    Something is definitely going on.

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    Annie
    Annie
    3 years ago

    My immune system is just fine.
    Hasn’t been shot to pieces by monkey gunk.

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    C S
    C S
    3 years ago

    Professor Alex Richter, of Birmingham University, said: “It is impossible to tell the difference between a cold and Covid clinically.

    Exactly! So it is like a cold/flu then….

    Amazing the number of WhatsApp groups I am in where people are saying things along the lines of “Ah we have all been ill with a bad cold in my house, but thankfully its not COVID”, or “We’ll see you at the pub later on…we have been ill with a cold and still feeling rubbish but its not COVID so no need for us to isolate”….

    Literally lost for words

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    Banjones
    Banjones
    3 years ago
    Reply to  C S

    It’s because they believe that if you get ‘covid’ then you will die.

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    NickR
    NickR
    3 years ago

    And what is the benefit of knowing whether it is or isn’t covid?

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    JohnK
    JohnK
    3 years ago
    Reply to  NickR

    The only real benefit might be that, having recovered from it, one could argue that there is no need for any so-called ‘vaccine’, as you’ve done it all automatically. You never know, in some parts of the world there might even be a profitable market for blood donorship in circumstances like that!

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    Banjones
    Banjones
    3 years ago
    Reply to  JohnK

    That’s true. But it means having to involve some medic, taking up their time to diagnose and then sign you off when you’ve recovered. Jobs for the GP boys and girls, I suppose, and it’s easier than treating people who are really sick.

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    vlysander
    vlysander
    3 years ago

    I saw a list of covid symptoms listed in the paper a few months back. One was runny nose.
    The brainwashed will continue to get tested because they still believe there is some deadly pandemic virus going around. Those not will carry on with life as normal and will have stopped watching or reading any MSM. Its a much more fun and enjoyable life not worrying about being ill every day.

    Last edited 3 years ago by vlysander
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    yLivi.
    yLivi.
    3 years ago

    Only to find out that common colds are caused by other coronaviruses, that happen to produce cross immunity to covid19… And then, how regular or how severe are those colds, when comparing vaccinated to unvaccinated individuals. Do they take a side?

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    Proveritate
    Proveritate
    3 years ago

    A number of common colds are coronaviruses, around one in six in fact.

    What are the chances that this particular mother of all colds is a coronavirus and what we are seeing here (in the vaccinated) is antibody dependent enhancement?

    Now, that would be a smoking gun…

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    bfbf334
    bfbf334
    3 years ago

    “Trying to self-diagnose is a sure-fire way to send Covid case rates soaring again.”
    NO….
    Constant false positive fake PCR “testing” is a sure-fire way to send Covid case rates soaring again.

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    SAGE LIARS
    SAGE LIARS
    3 years ago

    Prof Alan McNally ‘“If you have any symptoms of respiratory infection you should stay at home to prevent transmission and get a test done for Covid to rule in or out’

    No such test exists, and in the words of General Melchett ‘you are a steaming pile of horse manure’

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    JohnK
    JohnK
    3 years ago
    Reply to  SAGE LIARS

    The obvious self contradictory expert. And if anyone follows his advice, the last place you want to be at is a ‘testcentre’ occupied by infected punters.

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    marebobowl
    marebobowl
    3 years ago

    Nothing to do with antibody dependent enhancement then? The one thing many scientists warned us about after taking the vaxx? My two sisters, vaxxed, never locked down, have had the cold from hell not once but twice since receiving the vaxx. The only people we know in the past two months with Covid, all double vaxxed, all pretty unwell. Make sure and get that booster everyone. You can see how well they are working.

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    janvanruth
    janvanruth
    3 years ago

    i would like to ask prof richter how many common cold patients are on a ventilator normally..
    and prof mabbott where he got his numbers of lower incidence of the common cold in the past 18 months.
    both of them are talking absolute shite.
    if richter cannot establish the difference between the common cold and covid19 he should retire.
    the same goes for mabbott as he seems to have a problem interpreting numbers.

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    Cashmere
    Cashmere
    3 years ago

    Professor McNally said “and get a test done for covid to rule in or out.” Why? What treatment would you be advised to have that would be any different from that for a bad cold?

    Last edited 3 years ago by Cashmere
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    JohnK
    JohnK
    3 years ago
    Reply to  Cashmere

    Rhetorical why, maybe, but no doubt he hopes that they’ll jack up the statistics to support the scam.

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    Banjones
    Banjones
    3 years ago
    Reply to  Cashmere

    Perhaps he’s got shares in the company.

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    BungleIsABogan
    BungleIsABogan
    3 years ago

    It’s probably all the muzzle wearers and/or the “vaccinated” with their screwed immune systems.

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    Banjones
    Banjones
    3 years ago

    Why is it that people suffering from a heavy cold or flu IMMEDIATELY want to be ”tested”? Why not just go to bed and get over it (unless you become really ill).

    Why play their game?

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    Think Harder
    Think Harder
    3 years ago

    Well I’m hearing of so called Super Colds. So far only among the vaccinated. But … that can’t be investigated can it.

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