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Nissan EV Cars to Lose Functionality Due to 2G Switch-Off

by Sallust
4 March 2024 11:10 AM

Charging problems and battery lifespan have already ‘flattened the curve’ when it comes to EV take-up in the rush to Net Zero with the 2035 ICE vehicle ban looming on the horizon. If you’re still thinking about the positives and the negatives, Nissan has inadvertently come up with a solution to help make your mind up. When the 2G network is switched off, owners of older EV Nissans will discover that the app which helps control remote functionality will stop working on August 1st 2024. That’s because these cars use only 2G technology. The BBC has the story:

The firm says the app – which allows remote control of functions such as heating – is stopping because the U.K.’s 2G network is being switched off.

Owners of Nissan Leaf electric cars have accused the firm of “dumping its pioneers” after it announced its app would stop working for older vehicles.

But customers have reacted with anger, telling the BBC they did not expect it to be withdrawn.

Experts expect the issue to affect more electric vehicles as the market grows.

Around 3,000 Nissan Leaf and e-NV200 cars made before 2016 are affected by the app being withdrawn.

These older vehicles are fitted with 2G control units which communicate with the app.

Luckily, the cars themselves won’t grind to halt (unless the battery goes flat of course). Some functionality will remain. According to Nissan:

Owners will, however, still be able to use key features such as Climate Control Timer and Charging Timer directly from their car’s Navigation System.

That’s good then. Sort of. But the prospects are much more ominous. It seems Nissan could be setting a precedent:

Dr. Benjamin Gorman, a senior lecturer at Bournemouth University, said Nissan “really should have built in some kind of backward compatibility” so that the car could still connect by plugging in a phone or through Bluetooth, adding that “it is bad design”.

But he said, in the future, other electric vehicle owners could also see their software eventually lose functionality as technology moved on and companies stopped issuing updates.

He also pointed to broader trends within the industry, such as some car manufacturers starting to charge a monthly subscription fee for access to extra features such as apps.

Time to start looking for a 1970s Ford Cortina? No tax, no MOT, no Ulez issues, and no chance of some geek at the manufacturers switching features or the whole car off remotely. What’s not to like?

Worth reading in full.

Tags: Electric CarElectric vehicleInternal Combustion EngineNet ZeroObsolescence

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wokeman
wokeman
1 year ago

Welcome to Cuba without the good weather/food.

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transmissionofflame
transmissionofflame
1 year ago

Wish I had a grey Cortina
Whiplash aerial, racing trim
Cortina owner no-one meaner
Wish that I could be like him

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No-one important
No-one important
1 year ago
Reply to  transmissionofflame

“Had a love affair with Nina in the back of my Cortina
A seasoned-up hyena could not have been more obscener
She took me to the cleaners and other misdemeanours …”

(h/t Ian Dury)

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transmissionofflame
transmissionofflame
1 year ago
Reply to  No-one important

Good point- how could I forget one of the great English poets of the modern era.

You ask Joyce and Vicky
If candyfloss is sticky

You should never touch a candle
If you don’t know where it’s been
The jackpot is in the handle
Of a normal fruit machine

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Tyrbiter
Tyrbiter
1 year ago
Reply to  No-one important

Used to drink with a group where one of the girls always ordered a rum and ribena, but here name was not Nina.

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Marcus Aurelius knew
Marcus Aurelius knew
1 year ago

Great idea, Sallust.

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202308221064332?sort=relevance&make=Ford&model=Cortina

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For a fist full of roubles
For a fist full of roubles
1 year ago

Poor things. Won’t be able to ring up their beloved car and whisper sweet nothings into its receptor in the middle of the night.
Snigger.

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Jon Mors
Jon Mors
1 year ago

“No tax, no MOT, no Ulez issues”

Really? Why?

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Marcus Aurelius knew
Marcus Aurelius knew
1 year ago
Reply to  Jon Mors

Classic cars are exempt.

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Marcus Aurelius knew
Marcus Aurelius knew
1 year ago

Wait – DS is linking to BBC articles?

I accidentally clicked the link, for gawd’s sake!

Have some sympathy, DS!

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Tyrbiter
Tyrbiter
1 year ago

It’s a strange thing, smart meters use 2g connectivity because it is widespread and provides sufficient bandwidth for low data rate applications like these.

From what I know, UK 2g networks are not due for retirement until the mid-2030s.

I can’t see vehicle manufacturers updating their hardware as that would be a considerable effort to put it all through compliance testing for EMC etc.

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john ball
john ball
1 year ago
Reply to  Tyrbiter

yes, it is 3g which is going, and old phones like I have will still operate on 2g

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Tyrbiter
Tyrbiter
1 year ago
Reply to  john ball

Some UK networks have no 3g left now, EE turned off the last 3g sites a couple of weeks ago.

The last set of 3g sites provided about 2% of EE’s total data bandwidth, but used 35% of the total electrical power. There has been a lot of progress in improving the efficiency of the power amplifiers used in the base station radios, this was rolled out in the various 4g LTE systems but retrofitting it to 3g was not cost effective with that equipment approaching retirement.

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TheGreenAcres
TheGreenAcres
1 year ago

Bit of a storm in a teacup this. The app only controls certain remote functions, nothing vital. No different to any other car rather than being specific to EV’s – albeit I get the point that ‘modern’ cars with over-reliance on cellular connectivity are essentially built with their redundancy built-in

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Dinger64
Dinger64
1 year ago

Just a little worrying that the manufacturer can turn off your car if they want to!
Could this become a thing to control your journeys I wonder?

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Tyrbiter
Tyrbiter
1 year ago
Reply to  Dinger64

Of course this may be possible, and indeed it has been demonstrated by hacking into cars with permission.

Ultimately it’s going to come down to the public telling the technocrats where to get off, aided by a pair of large pliers if necessary.

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varmint
varmint
1 year ago

Net Zero is the LAW——–Pretty soon your petrol or diesel car will be breaking the law. Yet when this tyranny came into law in 2019 no questions were ever asked and no vote ever took place. ———–YOU WHAT?—– How can this be?

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iconoclast
iconoclast
1 year ago

My crystal ball predicts a class action against Nissan – [perhaps on the basis of unfair terms in consumer contracts?]

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