Charlotte Church has come under fire for leading a 100-strong pro-Palestine choir featuring children in singing the antisemitic song From The River to Sea, which calls for the destruction of the world’s only Jewish state. The Mail has the story.
Footage has emerged showing how the 38-year-old star led a choir in the protest chant at a Sing For Palestine event in Caerphilly, south Wales.
The song is deemed antisemitic and a direct call for the state of Israel to be destroyed.
The Welsh singer, draped in a keffiyeh scarf in solidarity with those in Palestine, was also caught singing Stop the Occupation as she attended the event at the Bedwas Workmen’s Hall on Saturday night.
The incident has sparked fury among people in the Jewish community, with the advocacy group the Campaign Against Antisemitism accusing her of using her “stardom to teach kids to sing extremist lyrics in a village hall”.
And Jewish MP Andrew Percy blasted the incident as “deeply concerning”, saying all who joined in Charlotte’s sing-along “should hang their heads in shame”.
The pop star has been outspoken in her support for the territory, having released an Instagram video in November calling for the “liberation of Palestine“.
During the event, which was attended by 150 people, Church told the crowd it was a “safe space to just breathe and sing and get it all out”, the Sun reports.
She then led a choir, which included some children, in a seven-minute rendition of the controversial song as part of her 40-minute set.
Church was given a bottle of champagne at the end of the event, which was being held to raise money for the Middle East Children’s Alliance charity.
It has sparked calls from the Campaign Against Antisemitism for an investigation by the Charity Commission.
The organisation told MailOnline: “The genocidal chant ‘From the River to the Sea’ refers to the Jordan River and Mediterranean Sea, and only makes sense as a call for the destruction of the world’s only Jewish state – and its replacement with a Palestinian state. It is a call for the annihilation of half the world’s Jews, who live in Israel.
“Since 7th October, when Hamas committed their barbaric terrorist acts, we have heard this chant on the streets of Britain during anti-Israel marches, accompanied by all manner of anti-Jewish racism.
“Singing ‘From the River to the Sea’ is not standing up for human rights. At best Charlotte Church has been tone deaf, but at worst she is using the voice for which she is so well known to fan the flames of hatred. You cannot stoop lower than using your stardom to teach kids to sing extremist lyrics in a village hall.
“We will be writing to the Charity Commission to ask them to investigate how this was allowed to take place on a charity’s premises.”
Worth reading in full.
Church has since insisted she is “in no way antisemitic” and claimed the song is “calling for peaceful coexistence”. Erm, she may want to check that with Hamas.
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It’s deemed antisemitic by people who support the genocide of the indigenous Palestinians.
I think the word “antisemitic” is overused and often not helpful to having a sensible debate.
But I’m not sure you need to “support the genocide of the indigenous Palestinians” to find the events described in the article questionable. I think it’s complex issue and teaching children this song doesn’t seem constructive to me.
I have no problem with teaching children the truth.
Well, your take on the truth. I’ve thought a lot about this issue recently and not come to any strong conclusion, so I think if you’re going to have children sing this song, you’d need to accompany it with some context on how the current situation came about, and explain what the song means to various groups that sing it.
There is only ONE truth.
The rest is lies, propaganda and omissions of the truth.
The Daily Sceptic are not being sceptical and are just parroting the official line straight from the Zionist media and the Israeli government.
It depends what you mean by truth. Only God knows the whole truth. There are some facts that are agreed upon, others disputed, and opinions about what those facts mean and what should happen will vary.
I’m just talking about this article, not debating DS’s take on the whole business.
Zionists, the Israeli government and the main stream media are masters at telling lies.
“ists” of all kinds and most/all governments tell lies all the time, have always done and will always do.
That doesn’t change my view that this is not a black and white issue and I think it’s a tough one to cover with young people (or anyone) and perhaps this “chant” which is controversial is best avoided in this context.
You can’t argue with brainhalffull and the rest filled with sawdust.
For every complex problem there is an answer that is clear, simple, and wrong. H. L. Mencken
I recall Palestinians shouting support for A.H.
“And to anyone who still disagrees with me, I say that you no longer matter. We are now educating your children.” A. H.
“Humanitarianism is the expression of stupidity and cowardice” – A. H.
“By the skilful and sustained use of propaganda one can make people see heaven as hell or an extremely wretched life as paradise” – A. H.
Truth according to who? ———Other than wiping Israel and Jews from the face of the earth do you have any practical solutions to the problem?
I’ve been following events in Palestine for over 45 years. I am well read on the subject from a variety of sources.
There is only ONE truth and that is the influx of Jews to Palestine since the Balfour Declaration of 1917 and the subjugation, persecution and violent removal of the indigenous population from their lands.
The solution is to force the Jews to accept a two state solution or a one state solution where everyone is equal.
It is the Jews who won’t accept the existence of the Palestinians.
Some previous proposals were not equitable and were rightly rejected by the Palestinians.
Decades and decades of persecution brings about resentment and radicalism culminating in the Palestinians in Gaza breaking out of their open air, fenced in prison and fighting back against their oppressor.
The US government is disproportionally run by Jews and Zionists who represent a large proportion of the US government but a small proportion of the US population.
It is the US government who bankrolls the Israeli government to destabilize the region to maintain their oil supplies and create conflict so their military industrial complex provides jobs for US citizens and makes sheds loads of money for rich individuals who donate to US politicians.
A peace deal could be reached if the malign influence of the US was taken out of the equation.
The Ottoman Empire chose the wrong side in the 1st world war therefore the winner takes the spoils.
One of the 5 dual state suggestions (all agreed to by the Israelis) left the jews with just under 20% of the land area.
I don’t think your analysis stands up to scrutiny.
Who are the indigenous people of those lands … what date are you starting from?
3000 years ago that would be Jews.
The Jews were still present in that area, in smaller numbers than Arabs, in the late 19th century.
I don’t trust you.
How about forcing the so called Palestinians to accept a two state solution? It has been offered time and again, and refused time and again. When you say you are well read on the subject from a variety of sources, you either mean only sources that agree with your bigoted and narrow viewpoint or, you are a liar. I think a bit of both.
I see the Zionist historical revisionists are out in force.
yes you do
It is not complex in the slightest. Genocide is the extermination of a race, such as that attempted by A.H. during WW2 and the Ottomans when they tried to exterminate the Armenians. Stalin’s murder of millions of Russians as well as Mao’s murder of millions of Chinese is not Genocide. Israel at no point have expressed any desire to exterminate the Palestinians, although after Oct 7th and 70 years of genocidal intent to wards them from most Arab nations I would forgive Israel for harbouring such thoughts. They really could have flattened Gaza and killed all the Palestinians, but they didn’t. Hamas claim genocide and claim thousands of casualties because they know there are many in the west that will respond in support because Hamas said thousands of babies and women have been killed. They claimed a hospital had been destroyed and 500 killed, within minutes of the explosion. All the MSM piled on blaming Israel without considering that it is impossible to know how many have been killed within minutes of an explosion and then it turned out it was an Hamas rocket and there weren’t 500 dead and the hospital wasn’t destroyed. People cannot be this gullible, especially Gays for Palestine and LGBTQ for Palestine.
You don’t necessarily have to believe the Israelis are guilty of genocide to see that Palestinians may have some grounds for dissatisfaction with the current state of affairs.
And who’s fault is that? All Israeli’s vacated Gaza in 2005 which included the forceful removal of Israeli settlers by the IDF. Gaza has been run by Palestinians and there was (now removed) a lot of videos showing a modern Mediterranean looking place with Palestinians enjoying themselves on the beaches. At the same time Hamas would be regularly firing rockets into Israel and every attempt at finding peace with them has failed – because they do not want peace.
And where are all the old Jewish communities in all of the surrounding and North African countries? How does multi-culturalism look there?
Wrong.
The term “genocide” is from 1944, apparently coined by Polish-born U.S. jurist Raphael Lemkin (1900-1959) in his work “Axis Rule in Occupied Europe” [p.19], in reference to Nazi extermination of Jews, literally “killing a tribe”.
“Generally speaking, genocide does not necessarily mean the immediate destruction of a nation, except when accomplished by mass killings of all members of a nation. It is intended rather to signify a coordinated plan of different actions aimed at the destruction of essential foundations of the life of national groups, with the aim of annihilating the groups themselves. [Lemkin]”
In other words, exactly what 93% of humanity are trying to do the the 7% of humanity known as Ethnic Europeans, or “white people”.
There are different ways to destroy an ethnic group and there are all the hall marks of that intent against white Europeans. Although at the same time Marxists use the same tactic to destroy a culture in preparation for a new communist state.
“To produce a maximum of chaos in the culture of the enemy is our first most important step. Our fruits are grown in chaos, distrust, economic depression and scientific turmoil. At least a weary populace can seek peace only in our offered Communist State, at last only Communism can resolve the problems of the masses.” Lavrenty Beria
Perhaps it is no coincidence that ex Marxist/Marxist and totalitarian Russia are mates with Islamist and totalitarian Iran. The Marxists/ex Marxist wish to destroy western culture to bring in a utopian world government while the Islamists wish to destroy western culture to bring in world Islam. One of these will stab the other in the back but our cultural destruction will have happened first.
Excellent reply. And well done for mentioning the Unholy Muslim-Marxist Alliance.
Actually, thinking further on this I will stick with Genocide being the extermination of a race. The definition you found also includes the following: Polish lawyer Raphael Lemkin coined the term genocide… …combining the Greek word γένος (genos, “race, people”) with the Latin suffix -caedo (“act of killing”).
Read Mark Twain’s account of his visit to Palestine in the 1800s.
100% agree.
Too many on here have been brainwashed by the Israeli MSM propaganda machine.
Hollywood at its finest.
Since inception Israel has looked for and hounded all and everything they deem as “antisemetic”. Got to hand it to them.
No doubt the RPTB learnt well from them – just look at how the MSM has been controlled, Lockdowns, mRNA jabs, Bigpharma, the WHO etc. etc.
30,000 plus dead civilians, millions homeless, Gaza reduced to rubble.
Genocide continues apace. Gaza strip is being destroyed – and you cheer Israel on.
The MSM is controlled as evidenced by their ‘reporting’ on Lockdowns, mRNA jabs, Bigpharma, the WHO etc. etc. However your attempt to make some moral equivalence doesn’t quite chime and do you really think you can try that on those that are sceptical of the Wuhan Flu shenanigans, BLM, Climate Emergency, the WEF, WHO and UN etc. etc. The MSM have been very supportive of Hamas and the Palestinians and for much the same reason that I’m a ‘climate denier’ even though I haven’t received any ‘Big-Oil’ money I have also become very pro Israel following Oct 7th without the assistance of Israeli MSM ‘propaganda’. In fact the reason for me coming off the fence was the Hamas MSM propaganda and the unrelenting footage of them filming their Daesh type barbarism along with all the barbaric bile in the comments, mostly in Arabic. Much of this appeared on YT at the time and has since been taken down. Add in the Hamas MSM propaganda of the Palestinians themselves celebrating their barbarism. Here is just one comment celebrating the butchering of some Israelis:
“What the West does not understand is that we Muslims are not afraid of death in war, and we consider it a testimony and the reason for our entry into Paradise, and this is what made a small group of resistance destabilize a large army. Israelis, Americans, and Europeans fear death in a very, very terrifying way, and it is their nightmare. So they will find resistance waiting for them. The death of one Israeli or American soldier is considered the death of a thousand soldiers. Greetings to Palestine, the heroes from Morocco. As for us, the world is worth nothing, and the evidence is the Egyptian soldier and policeman who killed the Israelis and the soldier’s martyrdom. The evidence is that the Palestinians enter among the Israeli tanks without fear. If I had found a way to join the resistance and fight for the sake of God, I would have gone with all joy and happiness.”
“The MSM have been very supportive of Hamas and the Palestinians”?????
You’re delusional.
« As for us the world is worth nothing » So what is Hamas fighting for, if not their world? What is their point?
Death to the Jews.
I’m not cheering anyone on
No such animal as a palestinian, no such place as palestine.
Must be honest I get bored with the antics of C list celebs.
Thunberg, Beckhams, Sussexes included.
I wish there was a web filter to block this annoying content.
Please – starve them of publicity.
I did read a comment from someone earlier saying she should get her surname deed polled to ‘Mosque’, which made me laugh.
Dame Mosque. Her Muslim Jihad allies will be pressing for Damehood.
Well she will get the hood.
What, like Elon Mosque?
They could all be part of the first colony on Mars?
Church was always dumber than dogsh.
“Bedwas Workmen’s Hall, which opened in 1923, was built with penny-a-week donations from local miners plus a grant from the owner of the local colliery, Sir Samuel Instone. It housed a public hall, library, cinema, dance hall and billiards hall.”
Shame on that Welsh woman Charlotte Church for desecrating the memory of her ancestors, upon whose hard work down the mines, and their penny-a-week donations, that hall was built.
She is disgusting, and abusing little Welsh children as well, by brainwashing them into singing praises for a Muslim Terrorist group thousands of miles away, while their own Welsh homeland is invaded by an imported Muslim Army.
Spot on. Chubby Church is just another half wit Muzzie apologist and devotee.
Her last name would be outlawed in every Muslim state.
I take it Muslims are higher than Jews on your hatred hierarchy now? You chased Lisa from Toronto from the Reddit group we were a part of with your hatred of Jews back then.
What is Ms Church’s position on the Jewish family of a Father, Mother, Daughter and Son who were tied up around their kitchen table facing each other and then each was mutilated while the Palestinian ‘freedom fighters’ ate food off the table? They then shot each one although I don’t know the order and which one saw the other three being shot.
What is Ms Church’s position on the parading of the dead body of a naked German girl, Shani Louk, through the streets of Gaza, while being beaten with sticks by jubilant Palestinians? Her legs were horribly broken and her head was found later.
What is Ms Church’s position on the chants of Palestinian protesters to ‘Gas the Jews’ or the claims that Hitler was correct in trying to eradicate the Jews?
What is Ms Church’s position on LGBTQ++ and Gay Pride Month?
Please whoever downvoted come out of the shadows and explain yourself. I’m truly interested to know what your logic is?
Perhaps I should have been more graphic?
On the subject of Hitler, Rabbi Yosef Tzvi ben Porat discussing Mein Kampf and why they don’t teach this in schools
“because who write the curriculum?.. those same leftists [the non-religious Communist Jews]”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BkBD0Abseec
Oh dear, Charlotte. Not another person I used to think was nice but who has since outed themselves as a complete numpty Useful Idiot. I’ll leave it to this nice Jewish chap to explain why;
”The anti Israel crowd are some of the most morally depraved, but also incredibly unintelligent people in the world.
They chant about the river to the sea but they don’t even know what river or what sea.
They chant intifada now and ceasefire now, without realizing they are chanting two contradictory things.
They still think the “We are not antisemitic, only anti Zionist” claim is believed by anyone after seeing them attack Jews who have never even stepped foot in Israel.
They wear masks to their protests while disturbing innocent Americans’ lives, in the hopes that, what exactly? I’m sure that’ll “Free Palestine.”
Many of them have dedicated their lives to values for which they’d be lynched and murdered if they even stepped foot in Gaza.
They get caught lying almost on a daily basis, whether it’s with doctored videos, or quoting ridiculous casualty numbers provided to them by Hamas.
If they want a state for the Palestinians (which, let’s be honest, most of them don’t want or care about. They just want to protest against Jews.), perhaps someone should tell them that openly supporting rape is not a good look and won’t really help their cause.
They have a difficult time distinguishing between a terrorist who is in jail for murder and a grandmother who was abducted from her bed. It’s not that complicated, guys.
Pretty sure a 3rd grader knows the difference between offense and defense, between an attack and a retaliation. Maybe these activists should have their kids explain it to them.
These geniuses regularly yell about how there is no fuel, electricity, or internet in Gaza while we all see Hamas firing rockets into Israel (which they need fuel for), while Gazans tweet photos on their phones, which somehow doesn’t require electricity or internet. It’s a miracle.
What a bunch of morons, it’s almost comical.
Then again, this should come as a surprise to no one. You can’t support an organization like Hamas and claim to have a brain in your head…”
https://twitter.com/HilzFuld/status/1762114665776021688
She did claim that the civil war in Syria was caused by Climate Change.
A figure like that needs a fair bit of upkeep so no doubt the appearance fee was handsome.
And this is the ‘cheque book’ that people like Church require:
‘Singham is more than just a Marxist with deep pockets. He is also a China sympathizer who lives in Shanghai and has close ties to at least four propaganda news sites that boost the Chinese Communist Party’s image abroad…’
‘…multimillionaire Singham and his wife Evans have donated over $20.4 million to The People’s Forum from 2017 to 2022 through a series of shell organizations and donor advisory groups—accounting for nearly all of the group’s funding.
Singham’s wealth stems from Thoughtworks, a software consulting company that he launched in 1993 in Chicago and sold in August 2017 to private equity firm Apax Partners for $785 million. That same year, The People’s Forum was founded and set up on the ground floor of a multistory building on 37th Street just blocks from Times Square; Evans was also installed as one of its three board members.
In 2017, the same year he sold his company and kickstarted The People’s Forum, Singham married Jodie Evans, a former Democratic political activist and presidential campaign manager for Jerry Brown….a far left political leader herself….’
‘At its multiroom modern headquarters in Midtown, which anyone can visit, The People’s Forum hosts classes like “Lenin and the Path to Revolution,” praising countries like China and Cuba that have “smash[ed] the shackles of Western imperialism,”
‘For now, the People’s Forum is focusing on its pro-Palestinian agenda, calling for “more marches, walk-outs, sit-ins, and other forms of direct action directed at the political offices, businesses, and workplaces that fund, invest, and collaborate with Israeli genocide and occupation.” The next protest co-organized by the forum, called “Shut It Down for Palestine,” is taking place…..in at least 18 locations across the world’
So there you have it
‘Singham’s name is nowhere to be found on The People’s Forum’s website or its tax documents, the organization isn’t shy about admitting they’re taking his cash. In 2021, to dispel allegations that the nonprofit took in “dark money,” The Forum posted on X (then Twitter) that Singham is “a Marxist comrade who sold his company & donated most of his wealth to nonprofits that focus on political education, culture & internationalism.’
‘The People’s Forum headquarters also boasts a socialist-themed coffee shop, The People’s Café, where visitors can order a $4 chai tea latte, a $10 Southwestern salad, or an $11 Cuban panini, stuffed with pulled pork, ham, and Swiss cheese.’
No wonder these ‘brothers’ and ‘sisters’ all look so ‘prosperous’……
Ms Church is a
usefulluseless IdiotShe’s tried to say she thought the song was about peaceful co-existence but surely the fact that the event was Singing for Palestine was the clue?
“IDF intel. saw Hamas using hundreds of Israeli SIM cards in Gaza before Oct. 7
The fact that so many Hamas members were switching to Israeli SIM cards could have been strong evidence of a potential invasion.”
https://www.jpost.com/israel-hamas-war/article-788947
Did DS cover this? It was in the Mail:
“Harrowing footage shows airman, 25, shrieking ‘Free Palestine’ after setting himself on fire outside the Israeli embassy in DC after stating: ‘I will no longer be complicit in genocide'”
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13125477/airman-aaron-bushnell-Israel-embassy-dc-washington.html
It got a mention in the Knesset (translation)
“In Gaza there is no hunger, there is starvation” – MK Ahmad Tibi referred to the incident in which American soldier Aaron Bushnell set himself on fire in front of the Israeli embassy in Washington to protest the war. In addition, he referred to the headline Kan 11 gave to Yuval Avraham’s speech: “Not every description of reality is anti-Semitic.”
“Not every description of reality is anti-Semitic.” – you wouldn’t think so in the UK
https://twitter.com/KnessetT/status/1762116564877238504
A gay man in Gaza was recently tried and executed by Hamas. Maybe that’s the sort of freedom Charlotte Mosque would like to see.
If large numbers of Israelis and white South Africans sought asylum in Britain the left would leave the ECHR tomorrow.
Can’t stand Owen on gender (I’m blocked); love him on Palestine. Here he is with Ms Church:
https://youtu.be/xaAAeArvAmY
How sad this all is. DS trots out another article from the scurrilous DM. This is guaranteed to raise hackles and set people off against each other.
And people jump to conclusions and take sides based on what is peddled and with little or no direct experience or familiarity.
My goodness, such a population was ripe for covid propaganda.
Scott Ritter, in a new video with Judge Napolitano, says that “we now know” on 7th October Hamas killed 400 Israeli military personnel, the remaining 800 were killed by the IDF (Israeli Defence Force) soldiers using tanks and Apache helicopters, respecting the ‘Hannibal’ directive. (The latter is derived from an occasion when Israel swapped one Israeli hostage for 1000 Palestinians: the Israeli population was so upset by this that it was later decreed the IDF may shoot Israeli hostages to avoid such a situation in future.)
The video is here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mFO_LsStmuA – fast forward to 25m32s, whereby the first part on Ukraine is also interesting.
This piece perfectly illustrates the decline of the Daily Sceptic-About-What. It has covered the whole issue of Gaza entirely from an Anglo-Jewish perspective, and it is completely uncritical about the views of the Campaign Against Antisemitism, a one-sided lobbying group under no obligation to be impartial.
According to that perspective, calls for the abolition of a Jewish state and its replacement with a Palestinian state are genocidal but not, apparently, the other way round. Pro-Palestinian means pro-Hamas, but pro-Israel does not mean pro-Netanyahu. Anti-Zionism is not a point of view but racism against an ethnic group. Zionism is not racism but a point of view definitive of that ethnic group.
There is something curiously left wing about all this. The Social Democrats were “objectively” Fascist, and similarly Palestinian nationalism is objectively Islamist. The student snowflakes feel threatened by the alleged presence of hate speech on campus, and so are British Jews claiming to be threatened by the thought of imaginary hate mobs taking over the streets. Meanwhile a nation is being destroyed before our eyes.
The facts in this piece come third-hand from quotations in the unpaywalled Mail Online. Next month, I think I will save money and get my facts second-hand.
Charlotte’s waistline is from the river to the sea. We should rename her Charlotte Mosque
Charlotte Church revealed herself to be an extreme leftist many many years ago … it is not a surprise that she is now hip deep in the intersectional garbage that promotes the Palestinians as the ‘oppressed’ .. they are so sick they even manage to lump Hamas in the victim group rather than victimiser.
With respect, Israel did not exist before 1948. The area currently defined as Israel was occupied by Arabs/Palestinians and had belonged to their forefathers for centuries. The Zionist movement around 1918 very successfully introduced an ever increasing number of Jews who, over the intervening decades, have essentially taken over the area, expelled millions of Palestinians and imprisoned the rest (sorry, I speak bluntly). So Palestinians can definitely be defined as the ‘oppressed’. The Israelis have very strong support from both USA and UK, who never question any action the former may take, and the same applies to western media. If you are interested in reading less one-sided reporting of the recent events in Israel, try https://thegrayzone.com/, https://antiwar.com/ or the like.