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The FDA and Vaccine Manufacturers Still Refuse to Show Us Their Work

by Dr David Gortler
10 February 2024 1:00 PM

When it comes to mRNA injections for Covid, Americans are 100% dependent on the FDA and vaccine manufacturers to assess and confirm purity and consistency. That might be okay if the testing methodologies that manufacturers and the FDA were still fully transparent, but they’re not anymore.

Not only are the test results confidential, even the methodology used hasn’t been made public. The world just has to take manufacturers’ word that there’s no contamination or variability with the mRNA sequence or its lipid nanoparticle components – even though published epidemiology data indicate otherwise.

Secrecy abounds despite the vaccine manufacturers receiving billions of U.S. taxpayer dollars to conduct their R&D efforts. Transparency should be nonpartisan, especially when it comes to the quality of America’s pharmaceuticals.

On top of that, both the Trump and Biden administrations have proposed lifting Covid mRNA intellectual property rights for mRNA injections. Yet both the FDA and manufacturers are tightly protecting the ingredient information as proprietary or a trade secret. But is it really appropriate to label it “proprietary/trade secret” if the research, development and product were funded with hundreds of millions of taxpayer dollars?

A transparent, publicly accountable FDA should be eager to prospectively test most or all of its regulated products for qualitative and quantitative consistency – and make those findings publicly available.

A transparent FDA would also share its testing methodology for mRNA Covid products for scientists who wish to confirm. But anyone trying to access this information will find it embargoed via an FDA report rendered useless by ludicrous redactions of not just the methodology, but the FDA’s critique of the methodology.

Without a list of ingredients or testing methodology, it is impossible for anyone else outside the FDA or manufacturers to know precisely how to check for product consistency. It is especially troublesome since new, preliminary data using independent methodology have produced troubling evidence of contamination in mRNA Covid product.

Also troubling is the fact that in 2021, the FDA opted to start monitoring America’s pharmaceutical quality via a remote collection of ‘mailed-in’ drug samples – a far less reliable process than testing samples directly collected at manufacturing plants or distribution points by FDA officials.

This ‘mail-in’ sampling methodology is absurd. It would be akin to a state health department monitoring restaurants by requesting them to periodically mail in various items from their menu to be tested for potential food-born contamination or asking restaurants to promise to test the items themselves.

Lack of Specific Dosing Transparency Has No Precedence

Unlike every other FDA-approved pharmaceutical, including a previously approved RNA-based products including patisiran (Onpattro®), none of the Covid injections provide the sequence, molecular weight and milligram strength on their official FDA package label. Normally, official FDA package labelling provides specifics of the actual ingredients in that volume, including the structure, sequence and specific concentration. That is not the case for Covid mRNA labels.

Look up whatever pharmaceuticals you can think of in the Drugs.com database, and you’ll see how all labels provide structure and molecular weight in their official package labelling. Covid mRNA shots are a conspicuous exception to the historical FDA approval practice and ‘truthful label’ rule.

The study raises a number of critically important questions, which can’t begin to be answered without the consistency being verified beforehand – and ‘mail-in’ sampling is not the way to do it.

Providing ingredient transparency and assuring quality via an appropriate sampling methodology is a core mission of the FDA. In fact, it was the primary reason for establishing the agency back in 1906. Americans today deserve complete transparency and improved quality control oversight when it comes to our pharmaceuticals. Our health may depend on it.

Dr. David Gortler is a pharmacologist, pharmacist, research scientist and a former member of the FDA Senior Executive Leadership Team who served as senior advisor to the FDA Commissioner on matters of FDA regulatory affairs, drug safety and FDA science policy. He is a former Yale University and Georgetown University Didactic Professor of Pharmacology and Biotechnology. This article was previously published by the Brownstone Institute.

Tags: COVID-19FDAmRNA vaccinesPropagandaUnited StatesVaccine

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Brett_McS
Brett_McS
1 year ago

When I see “jailed for 20 years” I recall that jail was never intended as the punishment, but as a holding cell while awaiting the actual punishment.

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Mogwai
Mogwai
1 year ago

Gotta love Pat Condell. He says it like it is. This video, about Gaza, is from 9 years ago and it’s as relevant today as it was back then. ( 6min )

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Ugsv5u-sW0&ab_channel=PatCondell

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Mogwai
Mogwai
1 year ago

What is a ‘proportionate response’?

”Proportionality is not part of international law or the history of warfare. It occupies a space akin to what Justice Potter Stewart said about pornography and not being able to define it, though “I know what it is when I see it.”
In other words, there is a cottage industry of finger-waggers who have decided that Israel’s responses to wanton murder need to be somehow referenced to the magnitude of the aggression.

As British author and political commentator Douglas Murray astutely noted, does that mean that Israel should shoot and behead the precise number of babies that Hamas did?
What proportionality really masks is an all-season, never-varying sympathy for the perceived underdog. What do you expect of Hamas; they are resisting Israeli aggression and domination (the fact that Israel left Gaza in 2005 has no bearing on this mindset), and are desperate.
So that inherently means that Israel either has it coming, or at least should suck it up and accept such attacks as the price of their “domination.”

https://www.jns.org/the-truly-proportionate-response-to-hamas-is-its-elimination/

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Jon Mors
Jon Mors
1 year ago
Reply to  Mogwai

It’s totally unreasonable to ask Israel to go back to the pre-attack status quo. Either,

  • All Hamas leaders rounded up and handed to Israel. NO CHANCE
  • Israel agrees to postpone the invasion and cease attacks until a re-settlement plan (in Muslim countries) for the Gaza Palestinians is agreed. I expect a US loan would feature!
  • Israel forces the issue by pushing the residents of Gaza further and further south until they are forced into Egypt.
  • Israel continues with the ground invasion and kills enough people/destroys enough military infrastructure to declare the mission complete. Possibly with continued occupation of at least north Gaza. This option is also likely to generate a large number of refugees.

My money is on the last one. Occam’s razor.

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Mogwai
Mogwai
1 year ago

This guy’s correct. It’s the sheer hypocrisy from world leaders condemning any terrorism or violence in their countries. But they are the very ones responsible for this violence because they prized ‘diversity’ above the safety of their citizens.

“Macron says ‘Islamist terrorism’ rising in Europe, all states at risk.”
When Egypt flat-out said they would not be taking any Palestinian asylum seekers, everyone was in agreement.
When Georgia Meloni wanted to stop people floating to Italy as a stepping stone into Europe with zero security screening, she was deemed a racist.

The world is a silly place. Hypocritical is the word. The very same people who always ask the West to stop meddling with their affairs almost always condemn the West for not helping when there’s a crisis.
No one else really cares about human rights, women’s rights, minority rights, racism, climate change, refugees, etc. They’ll just pay lip service to it and use these to extract more cash or other concessions from the West.

Why the fuck would you go to a different country “for a better life”, then spread the same toxic ideology that made your original country a shithole, to begin with?
For many decades leaders of European countries have welcomed people whose secret goal is to murder the citizens of the same countries that helped them.

Countries that gave them everything they needed, food, clothing, housing, and money.
All who disagreed with this were labeled as racists and even laws were made to silence them. So much for free speech.
Suddenly they are worried about the problems they have been creating themselves.
I laugh at the ridiculousness of this all and the hypocrisy of globalist leaders.

Western countries have doomed themselves by being so naive and blue-eyed about Islam.”

https://twitter.com/ImtiazMadmood/status/1714413351164350975

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Freddy Boy
Freddy Boy
1 year ago
Reply to  Mogwai

Morning ,naivety doesn’t cover “The Great Replacement” which is a thing ! No one gets into a country unless the F-ckpigs in charge allow it ! How far would an average uk Joe get ,starting an outbound world tour in a small rubber raft from a beach in Kent without taking any paperwork ! Look at Airport security to just go on holiday ! We ( the indigenous ones) can’t fart without permission & must be masked Jabbed , tracked & traced etc etc but unknowns are waved in by the hour ! TPTB,s pot is simmering nicely on the stove of western cultures destruction !!!…

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Mogwai
Mogwai
1 year ago
Reply to  Freddy Boy

Morning Freddo. Yes exactly. And on that topic, I know he’s not exactly saying they’ll take all 1 million but what do you think the Scots have to say about this latest bombshell from their leader?

https://twitter.com/GoldingBF/status/1714700873291403365

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huxleypiggles
huxleypiggles
1 year ago
Reply to  Mogwai

Useless Yousaf looking to cement his power base and Scotland be damned.

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Freddy Boy
Freddy Boy
1 year ago
Reply to  Mogwai

👍, Humza is some character ! You wouldn’t expect him to show concern for Scottish subjects ! He’s a wrong un !!!

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rachel.c
rachel.c
1 year ago
Reply to  Mogwai

fascinated that you got so many likes and few dislikes for this post but a majority of dislikes for your previous post on proportionate response. to me they are both relevant to the hypocrisy. why is it commentators have such a problem explaining why they differ in their reactions i wonder.

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Mogwai
Mogwai
1 year ago
Reply to  rachel.c

Your guess is as good as mine, rachel! haha.. 🙂

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ebygum
ebygum
1 year ago
Reply to  rachel.c

I don’t do downticks..so not guilty…

but maybe because the Murray article is utter rubbish?

Whenever ‘intellectuals’ use a ton of words, and invent tangled reasons for something that give you whiplash as you try to follow, and in turn does away entirely with common sense and the ‘norms’…. then you know they’re talking tripe.

Everybody generally knows what people mean by proportionate, and dis-proportionate responses…..although Murray seems to suggest you’ve never had a clue….

For instance if someone breaks into my home and kills my husband and my son..firstly I would say I should follow the actual law, but if I grappled with him and got the gun and shot and killed him…proportionate.

Same scenario…I kill him, then go to his home, kill his wife and kids, and the inhabitants of the street….disproportionate.

Murray’s tangled nonsense about proportionality tries to sweep this common sense under the rug….maybe to defend Israel’s response I don’t know. But I DO know baloney when I read it…..

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rachel.c
rachel.c
1 year ago
Reply to  ebygum

thanks. agree. a distraction. murray should stick to addressing the cultural revolution.

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NeilParkin
NeilParkin
1 year ago

“Jenrick compares BBC reporting of Gaza hospital blast to ‘blood libel’ against Jews”

The lie was half way round the world before Truth got its boots on.

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modularist
modularist
1 year ago

“In the last week alone, billions of words have been spewed about the Palestinian-Israeli conflict, so saying something that hasn’t already been said, or saying something in a way you might not have seen before, is a tall order. If I can pull it off, it will be thanks to a retch-inducing article in The Daily Sceptic which I will comment on in the last section of this piece. It’s an absolute skunk. When you walk past a turd, holding your nose and quickening your pace is usually sufficient, but this time it was so large that I felt compelled to stop and place safety cones around it as a civic service to fellow passers-by.”

https://plagueonbothhouses.substack.com/p/the-palestinian-israeli-conflict

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Freddy Boy
Freddy Boy
1 year ago
Reply to  modularist

Can you summarise this lengthy tomb !

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modularist
modularist
1 year ago
Reply to  Freddy Boy

That’s a bit lazy of you. It is about those seeking to decontextualise Hama’s atrocities and Israel’s response. It eviscerates the Spiked article and DS’s endorsement of it (the one that trashed Varoufakis), with copious evidence.

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NeilParkin
NeilParkin
1 year ago
Reply to  Freddy Boy

‘Its all Israels fault.’

*Awaits downtickers…

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JeremyP99
JeremyP99
1 year ago
Reply to  Freddy Boy

Tome. Nobody was buried in the article 😉

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JayBee
JayBee
1 year ago
Reply to  modularist

2 similarly balanced and as such here likely abhorred ones:

https://www.project-syndicate.org/commentary/hamas-attack-what-comes-after-israel-enters-gaza-by-carl-bildt-2023-10?barrier=accesspaylog

https://www.readtangle.com/israel-attacks-hamas-palestine-war/

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Jon Smith
Jon Smith
1 year ago
Reply to  modularist

Exellent and precise, what’s also exellent and precise is this post at the bottom…

Nik Jewell
Writes Glitches in the Narrative
2 hrs ago
A great piece. Toby and the DS have lost the plot over the last ten days with their entirely one-sided coverage. Critical faculties and scepticism suspended altogether regarding the conflict and the stories about it.

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Amtrup
Amtrup
1 year ago
Reply to  Jon Smith

I wonder how much of the knee-jerky pro-Israel reactions/opinions of the DS editorial team, and The Conservative Woman, et al, is because pro-Palestinian sentiment has tended to be a “lefty” thing. They ( DS etc ) just can’t quite divest themselves of that prejudice, that if the “left” supports/ed it it must be bad.

I saw a headline somewhere in Alt media suggesting that this latest crisis is another establishment “divide and rule” “flip” narrative, which this time will trap, challenge and divide conservatives, in the same way as covid trapped and challenged and broke up the “left”.

Last edited 1 year ago by Amtrup
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modularist
modularist
1 year ago
Reply to  Amtrup

I think there is always an element of divide and rule, but I do not see huge signs of conservative division yet.

CJ Hopkins has a good take:

“Hamas is playing on your basic human decency … your empathy for the Palestinians. Their game is, if you support the Palestinian people, you have to support the Hamas attack and condone the mass murder of unarmed civilians.

Israel is playing on your basic human decency … on your sympathy for the murdered Israelis. Their game is, if you don’t support the mass murder of Palestinian civilians that is now in progress, then you are a “terrorist-sympathizer,” who hates the Jews.

Both of these parties are fucking with your head, as are their assorted propaganda-spewing mouthpieces. They are trying to force you into a position where your only choice is to support mass murder.

You do not have to support mass murder.”

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JayBee
JayBee
1 year ago
Reply to  modularist

CJ’s piece was indeed excellent.
It’s telling how much vitriol he got for it, from both ‘sides’.
Chris Hedges has a new one out not mincing his words, and also a podcast with Norman Finkelstein.
chrishedges.substack.com/p/israels-culture-of-deceit?utm_source=post-email-title&publication_id=778851&post_id=138087465&utm_campaign=email-post-title&isFreemail=true&r=97oj4&utm_medium
I still respect TCW and Prof. Fenton in particular. He is entitled to his bias and opinion, just as Chris&co are.
To me, and the majority of people in the West if not the World, the truth lies somewhere in between (though the Global South aligns more behind Palestinians because of Islam’s prevalence and, even more so, because of it seeing this primarily and too simply as a brown people oppression through White colonizers issue).
It’s disappointing that the DS has lost its scepticism DNA reg. this issue. I speculate on that in my response to Amtrup.

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modularist
modularist
1 year ago
Reply to  JayBee

Thanks. That’s the first interview I’ve listened to with him since the 7th. Poking the hornet’s nest, as ever.

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JayBee
JayBee
1 year ago
Reply to  Amtrup

I see the same thing on Twitter and in particular in Germany.
The Right has embraced this and Israel fully, but primarily to finally stop the immigration of Muslims, its all overriding agenda since 2015.
(It’s also opened a door to them to easily get rid of the anti-Semitism label the Centre-Left parties tried to put onto them just because they are deemed to be Right in the meaning of being more nationalist, aka sceptical of the EU and against more immigration.)
Personally, I have also come around to a much more sceptical view on such immigration and the failed integration of most immigrants, as well as to regarding it as a past mistake in general and being envious of Hungary or Poland who saw it and resisted it.
But I can still separate it from the Israel questions and am still supportive of their rights as residents or citizens now here, incl. the one to protest and the one of free speech.
See Rav Arora’s latest, and also the official position of the law in Germany, which is quite sensible actually but under fire.

https://www.illusionconsensus.com/p/moral-emergencies-are-the-true-test?utm_source=post-email-title&publication_id=1604334&post_id=138000953&utm_campaign=email-post-title&isFreemail=true&r=97oj4&utm_medium=email

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JayBee
JayBee
1 year ago
Reply to  JayBee

+

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ebygum
ebygum
1 year ago
Reply to  modularist

The propaganda has a life of its own..I notice in the roundup it’s a ‘Pro Palestinian protest’ at the Capitol..in reality it’s been organised by a Jewish Group, Jewish voices for peace…

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OaQlYL7ckp4

Hundreds of American Jews are holding a sit-in at Congress — and we won’t leave until Congress calls for a ceasefire in Gaza. As thousands of U.S. Jews protest outside, over 350 are inside, including two dozen rabbis, holding prayerful resistance.

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modularist
modularist
1 year ago
Reply to  ebygum

Such people are often sadly derided as ‘self-hating Jews’.

Here’s somebody who lost his parents:

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2023/oct/19/hamas-attack-peace-revenge-border-war

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rachel.c
rachel.c
1 year ago
Reply to  modularist

a big thanks to you and other commentators for broadening the discussion. this issue seems to be even more challenging for the sceptical community to address than the tyranny that’s emerged in the name of public health culminating in the last few years. i am horrified by apparent support for Hamas’s activities yet dont understand what “stand by Israel” means other than naive virtue signalling. assuming we do reach a stage where we can have a sensible discussion about it, agreeing that all killing is abhorent, what solutions can we propose? scott ritter may not be everyone’s cup of tea but i found his recent discussion with arkady Itkin on “Ask the inspector” somewhat insightful on this issue.

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modularist
modularist
1 year ago
Reply to  rachel.c

Thanks. I really wish I didn’t feel the need to speak at such a sensitive time for the Israeli people, but I disagree with our politicians and media giving the IDF the nod to do whatever they want in response.

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rachel.c
rachel.c
1 year ago
Reply to  modularist

Surely it’s always a sensitive time for Israeli and Palestinian people alike. They are gaslit by the lies and fearmongering by the warmongers and interfering busybodies who think they know best just as we are but in spades. We must speak up for common sense but, just as with the Covid narrative, too many people are afraid to speak out.

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ebygum
ebygum
1 year ago
Reply to  rachel.c

I agree it’s hard to navigate for many of us, and just like Russia Ukraine, especially when the Government /MSM agenda are telling you that there IS only one right way to think about it!
what I do know is that I’ve been called a Putin Troll more times, and not for defending Russia, but just for not defending Ukraine….I suspect this won’t be much different.?

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rachel.c
rachel.c
1 year ago
Reply to  ebygum

Asking questions has never been harder and the pressure to follow the mainstream (whatever that is) narrative has never been greater especially as the dominant media is so corrupt. We live in extremely challenging times and must do everything we can to encourage everyone to think for themselves and speak freely. Most importantly, stay strong.

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NeilParkin
NeilParkin
1 year ago

“The Left pushes for hard Covid measures (again)”

I’m up for a whip-round to buy George Monbiot a one way ticket to space. Another self-important fantasist who loves the sound of his own voice.

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Freddy Boy
Freddy Boy
1 year ago
Reply to  NeilParkin

Two Down ticks , Mr 77th Elwood is touchy this early in the day !

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allofusarefat
allofusarefat
1 year ago
Reply to  Freddy Boy

E77wood still crabby perhaps at losing 16k salary add-on that went with being select committee chair; unfortunately, doesn’t seem to have stopped the ” hon gentleman’s” stream of unsolicited pronouncements.

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modularist
modularist
1 year ago

The second Nakba rolls on.

https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/foreign-minister-at-wars-end-not-only-will-hamas-be-gone-but-gazas-territory-will-shrink/

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JayBee
JayBee
1 year ago
Reply to  modularist

By just enough so that they won’t have any more claim on that gas field ….
Plus ça change…

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ebygum
ebygum
1 year ago
Reply to  JayBee

I may have missed it if you posted about this before JB … I was reading this yesterday…..it’s from 2009…

https://www.globalresearch.ca/war-and-natural-gas-the-israeli-invasion-and-gaza-s-offshore-gas-fields/11680

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JeremyP99
JeremyP99
1 year ago
Reply to  modularist

Those who have not read Hamas 1988 Charter should do.

It calls in plan words for the extermination of all Jews.

Got it yet?

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ebygum
ebygum
1 year ago
Reply to  JeremyP99

I’m not sure why you keep bringing this up?…..think most of us accept that there are repugnant Palestinian/Arab/Muslim ideologies..

The problem is that you don’t accept that there are just as repugnant ideologies on the other side….

Neither are a voice for peace…

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K60cxrGbcIc
When Israel is mighty….

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modularist
modularist
1 year ago
Reply to  JeremyP99

I’ve shared a long article about the vile document on my Substack.
It is no longer, however, their official policy. A new charter was created in 2017:
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/may/01/hamas-new-charter-palestine-israel-1967-borders
There are religious problems on both sides; for example:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GqSfrluRGAc
However, since 1948, the driver of the conflict has been primarily land, not religion, with the exception of the fanatics in Hamas.
Please don’t twist this to think I support Hamas in any way because I do not.

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Lockdown Sceptic
Lockdown Sceptic
1 year ago

Rise of the Global Police State Leaflet to print or share



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ebygum
ebygum
1 year ago

This seems quite prescient in the circumstances….?

Sir, a quick guide to Israelis PR method.

  1. We haven’t heard reports of deaths, we will check into it
  2. The people were killed by a faulty Palestinian rocket/bomb
  3. OK we killed them, but they were terrorists
  4. OK they were civilians, but they were being used as human shields
  5. OK there were no fighters in the area, so it was our mistake, but we kill civilians by accident, they do it on purpose
  6. OK we kill far more civilians than they do, but look at how terrible other countries are
  7. Why are you still talking about Israel? Are you some kind of anti Semite?

Test this against the next interview you hear or watch.

Letter sent to the Mail, during Israel’s 51 day war in Gaza in 2014.
Adam Johannes, Secretary of Stop The War Coalition.

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WyrdWoman
WyrdWoman
1 year ago

Interesting take on the current situation by Arnaud Bertrand (from 15th Oct) & the loss of power in the wider West:

https://twitter.com/RnaudBertrand/status/1713400292472225816

1) It says a lot about Israel’s image that it was expected to react with massive collective punishment, violating international law. 2) It also says a lot about Israel’s inability to think strategically that it would react in exactly the way its adversary predicted it to. Revenge is not a strategy, in fact it is the opposite of strategic. And, lastly 3) it says a lot that Israel doesn’t seem to have learned a thing from the US’s immense mistakes in its post 9-11 response.

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ebygum
ebygum
1 year ago
Reply to  WyrdWoman

It’s an interesting article.…

I’m also minded that we are supposed to live in the ‘civilised’ bit of the world…LOL…and yet all we have is wars death and destruction, and yet unnoticed in the mayhem, China has just hosted its third international forum centred around President Xi Jinping’s signature policy, the Belt and Road Initiative…. 

“The forum brings a flurry of diplomacy to Beijing, including at least 20 heads of state and government, mostly hailing from developing markets in Southeast and South Asia, the Middle East, Africa and Latin America.”

Do you think they look over here and want to join us, or that we are just nuts, and best avoided??

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WyrdWoman
WyrdWoman
1 year ago

“Greta Thunberg charged following Fossil Free London protest” 

Deportation perhaps (by wind-blown coracle, of course) – or is that too much to ask?

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ebygum
ebygum
1 year ago

Israel Crossing the REDLINE. The Ethical Morass of Experimenting on one’s
own people…
https://rwmalonemd.substack.com/p/israeli-dna-and-human-lab-rats

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ebygum
ebygum
1 year ago

ebygum
 58 minutes ago
Awaiting for approval

Have you ever had any questions about 9-11? If the answer is yes, why don’t you have any questions about this?

Israel launches ‘most advanced of its kind’ radar spy satellite…
https://www.timesofisrael.com/israel-launches-new-ofek-13-spy-satellite-into-orbit/
The Ofek 13 is the most advanced of its kind, with unique radar observation capabilities, and will enable intelligence collection in any weather and conditions of visibility, thus enhancing strategic intelligence,” IAI President and CEO Boaz Levy said in the IMoD press release.

https://pubs.geoscienceworld.org/ssa/srl/article-abstract/91/6/3236/590533/The-TRUAA-Seismic-Network-Upgrading-the-Israel?redirectedFrom=fulltext
Israel are using passive seismic technology to expose Hezboolah’s attack tunnels
The technology enables the IDF to identify where tunnel drilling is taking place — not only in limited, specific areas, but throughout the Israel-Lebanon border area, he said.
The sensors in the ground relay information to sensors at the border fence, as well as to receptors in patrol vehicles along the border.

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2021/12/7/israel-announces-completion-of-underground-gaza-border-barrier
Israel completes ‘iron wall’ underground Gaza barrierIsraeli defence minister says the ‘technologically advanced project’ includes hundreds of cameras, radar and other sensors over a stretch of 65km.

https://www.timesofisrael.com/gaza-sea-barrier-nears-completion/
Over four years after a team of Hamas commandos entered Israel from the sea during the Gaza war of 2014, Israeli engineers are nearing completion of a smart sea barrier meant to prevent future attacks, Channel 10 news reported Monday.
Construction of the 200-meter-long barrier was carried out by the Defense Ministry off the beach of Zikim, on Gaza’s northernmost border. Work took seven months.
The barrier is meant to close a gap in Israel’s defenses along the border with Gaza.

https://www.theregister.com/2022/08/30/google_project_nimbus_israel/
The massive supply deal, dubbed Project Nimbus, will provide cloud and AI services to Israeli government organizations using local AWS datacenters. Some Google employees, including Koren, fear Nimbus will be used by Israeli officials to commit human rights abuses against Palestinians and others, through the use of facial recognition and other machine-learning surveillance and profiling tools. The staffers have also called on Google and Amazon to scrap the deal. 

Mossad, Israel’s secret intelligence service, has a reputation for being fearsomely effective, protecting Israelis and Jews far beyond the country’s borders. With an annual budget of around $3 billion and 7.000 staff it is the second largest espionage agency in the world after the CIA.

but a supposed rag tag bunch of terrorists armed with paragliders and tractors manages to go undetected for over five, six hours???

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huxleypiggles
huxleypiggles
1 year ago
Reply to  ebygum

“..a supposed rag tag bunch of terrorists armed with paragliders and tractors manages to go undetected for over five, six hours???”

A point I made right at the start of this conflagration. The whole event started with a lie. I find it difficult to identify any truth in anything we are being told.

I just want the killing to stop.

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Mogwai
Mogwai
1 year ago
Reply to  huxleypiggles

Ditto, hux. It’s all fishy AF. I thought Netanyahu was a sadistic nutcase just over the whole Covid/Pfizer Nation thing. How he treat the Israeli citizens was just despicable and inhumane. Now he’s gone next level psychopath. WTF is going on though? Too many questions and not enough actual evidence to make sense of it all. Israelis need to get away some place safe because their government clearly does not prioritise their safety and welfare.

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Mogwai
Mogwai
1 year ago
Reply to  ebygum

Yes this is something I struggle with and why I haven’t discounted the ‘inside job’ theory. So much footage plus accounts that I’ve heard seem to support the fact that in broad daylight the terrorists breach the barrier and appear to be in no actual rush to go around shooting as many people as they can, getting in and out as quickly as possible without being caught. They actually appear to feel comfortable, knowing they can take their time, as if they know nobody is coming any time soon. How on earth did they feel relaxed enough to not only spend time ransacking houses but tie up families, torture them and eat the victim’s food at the same time?? Where were the first responders/military? You’re also telling me that no civilians had a mobile phone so that they can alert the emergency services as soon as the first gunshots were heard and given the known grave threat they exist with anyway of living nextdoor to maniacs who hate you and want you dead?? But as you say, comments I read said nobody responded until approx 6hrs after the attack commenced. Surely all Israelis are demanding answers about this. I haven’t yet come across any explanation for this.

But the paragraph by that American author of the article I shared the other day also stuck with me. How could officials, including military personnel, know something like this was about to happen and basically allow what must be a lot of family and friends to get slaughtered/kidnapped? Many of the victims must’ve been known to them. It’s not a huge place. I really hope we get some answers, especially as the Israeli citizens, more than anyone else, deserve it. I wouldn’t want to live there. Why would anyone want to raise a family in Israel? Surrounded by people who want you dead. I’d be moving abroad and getting the hell out of there because this threat is just ongoing and growing greater over time. Plus, how on earth can any citizens have faith in their government to keep them safe now?

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Mogwai
Mogwai
1 year ago
Reply to  Mogwai

This is just one such tragic example. How the hell did the sick f*cks have the time to do this at their leisure? Sounds like they were confident they wouldn’t be disturbed. This is what the Netanyahu government allowed to happen though. What would the proportionate response be if this were your family? People need answers because this will only happen again in future. Who’d be stupid enough to believe lame assurances now?

https://twitter.com/profnfenton/status/1714925082823290894

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ebygum
ebygum
1 year ago
Reply to  Mogwai

Yes..this..before anything else..needs answering..the people who’s families were affected need to know…

What’s worse is that you then have to wonder why a rave, full of young people, had its location changed just two days before, and to a location less than three miles from the border fence..where there have apparently been problems before…..and there was absolutely no military presence…
Something doesn’t add up….

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modularist
modularist
1 year ago
Reply to  ebygum

This is one take: https://unherd.com/2023/10/gaza-will-change-the-future-of-war/

I’m still struggling, though, to convince myself that this was simply a cockup.

Last edited 1 year ago by modularist
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ebygum
ebygum
1 year ago
Reply to  modularist

I’m not entirely convinced by the article,
…but it does make a sort of sense as to why Western Politicians are descending on Israel like headless chickens…

If genuinely all that top notch kit, along with the $3.8 billion that the USA provides every year to Israel, can’t stop men with tractors….things are a hundred times worse than we thought?…

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modularist
modularist
1 year ago
Reply to  ebygum

Indeed.

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ebygum
ebygum
1 year ago

I feel like Mystic Meg….I think I said this very early on….not only that inconsistency causes people on a private level to lose faith in what you are saying but that there are geopolitical ramifications when the ‘messaging’ is inconsistent!!

https://archive.ph/2023.10.18-110221/https://www.ft.com/content/e0b43918-7eaf-4a11-baaf-d6d7fb61a8a5

Western support for Israel’s assault on Gaza has poisoned efforts to build consensus with significant developing countries on condemning Russia’s war against Ukraine, officials and diplomats have warned.
The reaction to the October 7 attack on Israel by Islamist militant group Hamas and to Israel’s vow to hit back against Gaza has undone months of work to paint Moscow as a global pariah for breaching international law, they said, exposing the US, EU and their allies to charges of hypocrisy.

In the first days after Hamas’s assault, some western diplomats worried that the US was giving carte blanche to Israel to attack Gaza with full force.
That had eroded efforts since Russia’s invasion of Ukraine.. to build consensus with leading states in the so-called Global South — such as India, Brazil and South Africa — on the need to uphold a global rules-based order, said more than a dozen western officials.

We have definitely lost the battle in the Global South,” said one senior G7 diplomat. “All the work we have done with the Global South [over Ukraine] has been lost . . . Forget about rules, forget about world order. They won’t ever listen to us again.”

Some American diplomats are privately concerned that the Biden administration’s response has failed to acknowledge how its broad support of Israel can alienate much of the Global South.

What we said about Ukraine has to apply to Gaza. Otherwise we lose all our credibility,” the senior G7 diplomat added. “The Brazilians, the South Africans, the Indonesians: why should they ever believe what we say about human rights?”

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ebygum
ebygum
1 year ago

https://twitter.com/UsforThemUK/status/1714691470513385739

From 2020 – 2022, Imperial College London took c.$108 MILLION in funding from the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation –

This included $93 MILLION in 2020, the same year that Imperial published its flawed modelling paper which set the tone for the pandemic and espoused

“…this type of intensive intervention package – or something equivalently effective at reducing transmission – will need to be maintained until a vaccine becomes available (potentially 18 months or more).”

On any measure, this is a very significant amount of money.

Neil Ferguson, an author of that paper, appeared before @covidenquiryuk
yesterday, as did Professor Steven Riley, also of Imperial.

Ferguson’s witness statement to the Inquiry refers to the Gates Foundation as a ‘major’ Imperial funder, albeit the quantum of funding is not shared.

No question of the funding, or conflicts it might raise, was asked by the Inquiry.

Why is @covidinquiryuk
apparently uninterested in exploring the possibility that its witnesses might have potential personal or institutional conflicts of interest?

(Answers on a postcard please!!???)

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ebygum
ebygum
1 year ago

A new thread from Ed Dowd..
https://twitter.com/DowdEdward/status/1714698640168808467

New Report: UK Death & Disability Analysis: Malignant Neoplasms (Cancer), Ages 15-44

The anecdotal evidence observed in independent media has been confirmed by a strong statistical signal
Excess Death Rates from Cardiovascular diseases flat in 2020 but up 13% in 21 & 43% in 22
Z-scores of 5 & 17 were observed in 21 & 22 respectively. Black swan signals.
Onservations point to a worrying picture of an even greater acceleration in coming years of deaths & disabilities…an investigation is needed!

Trend analysis:
Deaths per 100k were trending down to around 12.8 before 2020. Dropped slightly in 20 to 12.5 and is now 14 in 2021 and 17.5 in 2022. About 1000 excess deaths in 2022

Men & women were down slightly in 20, in 21 men were 16% higher deviation from trend while women were 10% higher. In 22 men were 52% higher from trend while women were only 30%.

This report which shows a strong signal for cancers is similar to our previous cardiovascular report from UK with the signal in 22 being even stronger. Interestingly 2020 showed no increase in excess cancer deaths.

Regardless of causes these 2 reports reveal that health authorities need to investigate as the trends are alarming.

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modularist
modularist
1 year ago

It’s always been beyond me why anybody would send their DNA to a private company.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12648149/Warning-Brits-change-23andMe-passwords-genealogy-site-hacked-blackmailer-DNA.html

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Derek Davis
Derek Davis
1 year ago

To quote from the Westminster Declaration:

“Open discourse is the central pillar of a free society, and is essential for holding governments accountable, empowering vulnerable groups, and reducing the risk of tyranny … We do not want our children to grow up in a world where they live in fear of speaking their minds.”

I hope they apply the same standards to criticism of the Israeli government’s treatment of Palestinians, and the US establishment’s support of those policies.

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ebygum
ebygum
1 year ago
Reply to  Derek Davis

…probably not….?

https://archive.ph/SyuwP Oct 15 2023 Harretz.

Likud Minister Formulates Emergency Regulations to Imprison Citizens Who ‘Harm National Morale’Communications Minister Karhi is promoting regulations that would allow him to direct police to arrest civilians, remove them from their homes, or seize their property if he believes they have spread information that could harm national morale or served as the basis for enemy propaganda.
Communications Minister Shlomo Karhi is promoting regulations that would allow him to direct police to arrest civilians, remove them from their homes, or seize their property if he believes they have spread information that could harm national morale or served as the basis for enemy propaganda.

According to draft emergency regulations titled “Limiting Aid to the Enemy through Communication” drafted by the communications minister after consultation with National Security Minister Itamar Ben-Gvir, the jurisdiction to impose limitations on publications will be sweeping.

It will apply to both the general public and the media, as well as both local and foreign media (in contrast to the stated objective to limit Al Jazeera). It will also apply to the publication of factually correct statements, at the minister’s discretion.

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huxleypiggles
huxleypiggles
1 year ago
Reply to  ebygum

Very much like our Online Safety Bill then?

Isn’t Lockstep a wondrous disease, it gets round the world quicker than a fake virus?

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ebygum
ebygum
1 year ago
Reply to  huxleypiggles

..one has to wonder why they can’t handle any opposition or criticism anymore?
Unless it’s because the scam woke so many of us up that it’s all they’ve got left….?

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huxleypiggles
huxleypiggles
1 year ago
Reply to  ebygum

Indeed.

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