The UKHSA declared last week that the number of measles cases in the West Midlands (216 confirmed and 103 probable since October) is a “national incident”. Many have blamed low vaccine take-up, laying the blame on online vaccine ‘misinformation’. But this doesn’t add up, says Toby in his Spectator column this week. Here’s an excerpt.
The main spreaders of health-related ‘misinformation’ over the past four years or so have not been vaccine sceptics, but official organisations like the World Health Organisation which, in the early phase of the pandemic, exaggerated the risk of COVID-19, particularly to children, leading to unnecessary school closures. We now know that the two-metre social distancing rule had no scientific basis, and the evidence underlying mask mandates is threadbare at best. We also have good reason to believe the cost of lockdown far outweighed the benefit. The example of Sweden, which never imposed a national lockdown, suggests there were very few benefits at all.
Surely it is this catalogue of errors, which caused incalculable social and economic harm, that has eroded people’s trust in the public health establishment, not the anti-vaxxers? Is it any wonder some parents are reluctant for their children to have the MMR, given how often they’ve been lied to about the benefits of this or that health measure over the past four years? I daresay a few of them can recall the government applying pressure on the Joint Committee on Vaccination and Immunisation (JCVI) to change its mind about recommending in December 2021 that five- to 11-year-olds shouldn’t be given the Covid jab. …
Toby cites a report by the Royal Society in 2022 entitled ‘The Online Information Environment: Understanding how the internet shapes people’s engagement with scientific information’, which recommended against “content removal” as a strategy for combatting misinformation as there’s no evidence it works and it may make things worse.
In any case, he suggests, “a more probable cause is the conversion of the NHS into a Covid-only service from March 2020 to July 2021, meaning lots of parents failed to get their kids jabbed. As with other recent health crises, the ‘national incident’ is a consequence of the government’s mismanagement of the pandemic.”
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I had measles as a child, as I recall (young at the time) I felt under the weather and itchy for a couple of weeks. Still here 40 odd years later.
Since convid and having become a little more knowledgeable about vaccines, I have become a true antivaxer not just a half baked anti-genetherapyer.
Me too….Was in bed for couple of days as far as I can remember, and a tiny circular scar where the spots once were.
Exactly. When you’re a kid, you get ill sometimes and your immune system is there to lessen the risk of it getting worse and to help you get better. Honestly, do these people need it spelling out?
Same here, in the mid 1960s. I suppose there was an outbreak of it in the primary school I was at then. In those days the local GP did house visits. Definitely had mumps later on as well.
The “spreaders of health-related ‘misinformation’ “ appear to be guilty of blatant lying, when it comes to failure to explain various changes of definition, and the avoidance of proper risk versus benefit analysis etc. E.g pushing adverts claiming that something is “safe and effective”, along with all the other negative effects that are still emerging as side effects of the panic that ensued.
There was no shortage of opportunism, along with excessive attempts at bureaucratic intervention into human rights as well.
I had it really bad – left me with scarred eardrums, hearing loss & tinnitus, plus some retinal damage. That said, I can remember tons of chums having it, it was just part of normal growing up back in the day. Numerous research papers recommend a decent slug of Vitamin A for susceptible kids, but let’s face it: with more and more kids falling into poverty, immune systems shot to sh*t with the childhood jab schedule, crappy modern diets, sedentary lifestyles and over-exposure to electronic devices, most of them could do with a daily multivitamin or two.
I had it bad too, but measles was just one of those childhood things you put up with, like mumps and whooping cough. I can’t remember anyone dying from it, although now they seem to emphasise that it ‘could’ be fatal, simply because they like to put the wind up people. There was much more emphasis then, too, on nursing the sick at home successfully, a skill now lost, and in fact almost impossible to carry out as mother’s are expected to be in the workplace, not languishing at home caring for their children.
That is why they developed a vaccine. Because of the damage done to otherwise healthy kids who suffered and did not have a vaccination. I, too, had measles and came out with no ill effects. But maybe I was lucky. . Vaccines are not all bad. Delingpole and his ilk can be a bit mad about things. But I take the general point about the way that coicd was forced on us and how its side effects and lack of efficacy was covered up. A shameful moment in medical history. And should be punished.
You can still get measles when vaccinated. Measles is a virus that is air born and highly contagious. The recommended treatment is to stay home and drink lots of fluids and watch for high fever. There are many variants. You are immune if you have had the disease. I wonder why a small outbreak always solicits huge news publications to get vaxed?
Over the last 4 years many more people have understably become distrustful of all things bigpharma and vaccines, particularly mRNA “vaccines” which are in fact gene therapy.
Maybe they’ve seen sites such as this as regards orthodox vaccines –
http://vaccinepapers.org/
Which details particularly with the potential harms of “adjuvants” – aka immunologists dirty little secret.
Why has there never been done (or released) a nationwide comparison of the jabbed as against the jabbed – and I don’t mean just mRNA jabs.
The NHS/GP’s hold the medical records of everyone with an NHS record, apparently all digitalised.
Just compare the long term health outcomes of the never jabbed as against the jabbed population, and I mean from birth onwards.
The only problem would be ensuring the study be carried out honestly….
(Spoiler alert, there have been many relatively small studies which show the unjabbed to be massively healthier).
I would urge all to read and consider this book –
Miller’s review of critical vaccine studies.
Pages 139-148 are particularlly relevant to measles.
Doctoring Data by Malcolm Kendrick is also well worth reading.
Registered GP surgeries are probably a bit incomplete with some of us that have been around for a while.
This morning 10pm BBC Woman’s Hour. Long Covid Drs for Justice. They are taking the government to court for not introducing PPE earlier. That was hard to listen too and she wouldn’t want me sat next to her because I could throw a metaphorical grenade onto her pseudo science. How about that truck driver for some blue chip. He took to court the company that he delivered to, and lost. Time for an appeal when you consider Masks do very little. While delivering to a security barrier was told to wear a mask on his own inside his cab. On what evidence!
https://www.conservativewoman.co.uk/the-shocking-testimony-of-the-covid-19-nurses/
Never forgive. Never forget.
A review of a new book “What the nurses saw.”
Nurses testimony mainly from the USA detailing how the hospitals were turned in to killing factories.
Here’s that word again – Grim.
“I had never seen the PEEP (positive end-expiratory pressure) settings set so high. Typically we see it at about five, and we were seeing that pressure at fifteen. We were blowing people’s lungs out.’…..Evil!
Certainly in the USA those taken in to hospital with the C1984 were clearly very likely to be killed.
Mass murder.
In the past Measles incidence has been proportional to poverty, especially poor diet and presumably housing stress.
Now, what have the last four years done to improve well-being, diet and housing for low-income urban dwellers?
Wakefield made a connection between the MMR jab and Autism. But isn’t the autistic spectrum a personality trait rather than an induced condition?
In the book ‘180 Degrees’ F Greenwood. He mentions how on average autistic people have a higher than average concentration of heavy metals in their blood. Without finding the chapter I can’t provide more details but maybe others in here have heard of this?
Wakefield was right and that is why he was thrown out of the Country.
Yup…GMC is not to be trusted any more than the MHRA.
Dr James Lyons Weiler has been writing and campaigning on this for yonks.He recently published a list of his articles on aluminium as an adjuvant and systemic/neruological effects. (I’ve done his environmental toxicology course. It’s really good.)
https://popularrationalism.substack.com/p/all-james-lyons-weilers-articles?utm_source=profile&utm_medium=reader2
One of Dr Chris Exley’s papers: ‘Aluminium in brain tissue in autism’
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/29413113/
The MMR jabs were introduced purely to save money from giving the jabs separately. Since then there has been an increase in cases relating to autism.
In America those damaged by the MMR jabs are getting secret payoffs.
If there were an issue with a measles outbreak, then allow seperate jabs to increase take up. However, they cannot allow this as the harm from the combined jabs would become more apparent.
“I see Sam Melia of Patriotic Alternative has just been found guilty of ‘inciting racial hatred’
His crime you ask? He had downloadable stickers on his computer, which the police agreed had lawful content on them. But they interpreted as stirring the pot.
He now faces 2-3 years in prison and misses the birth of his daughter who is due in 12 weeks.
Wow, there are people out there who have committed serious crimes who don’t get 2-3 years.
Their great replacement immigration policy is clearly the most important one. Apparently, having a sticker with “there is a war on whites” is the worst possible thing you can say.”
I have just found this BTL at TCW. Not a story I am familiar with but it sounds horrendous.
As I have been commenting for some time – British justice is now an oxymoron.
We live in a quasi-totalitarian police state in all but name, HP. The police have lost all sense of what they are there to do. The number of vids I have seen with over-the-top heavy-handed policing going on as if it’s OK is very disturbing
“number of vids I have seen with over-the-top heavy-handed policing going on as if it’s OK is very disturbing”
YouTube is rife with these videos Aethelred.
I’m sure it is, HP, but I don’t exactly go looking for them. Life is grim enough as it is!
Carl Andre died yesterday. He was responsible for the work “Equivalent VIII”, the famous or infamous display of 120 bricks bought by the Tate in the mid 1970s.
That really showed how ‘Emperor’s New Clothes’ we had become in our discernment of art. No doubt there were art critics who lavished it with praise and took it way too seriously but essentially it was just a pile of bricks. I could mention other ‘so called’ art that is pretentious, meaningless and vapid that has mainstream art critics in swooning fits. But hey, RIP Carl Andre.
The ones I saw at the Tate were very nice bricks though – very clean, nicely faced, no broken edges. Was building a patio at the time, they would have come in vey handy (with apologies to any minimalists out there)
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I think there is more to this than ‘Emperor’s New Clothes.’ This installation – pile of bricks – was symptomatic of the dumbing down that was being actively pursued by TPTB, as they thought they were then. In reality utter rubbish was being pushed on to populations as a means of remodelling society.
Would the C1984 have been tolerated by the adults of the 1970s as it has been by those alive today? I don’t think so.
Dumb the population, push wokeness as a virtue until even the apparently intelligent ( intelligent stupid) have signed up to it and we arrive at where we are today.
I don’t think they would’ve put up with it. Remember that Chinese flu or whatever it was in the 1960s, they still went ahead with Woodstock festival. I have a friend from Panama and she said she is considering going back there the way things are going. I may join her, but at least go on holiday to bet my bearings.
I’ve told this anecdote before probably but it bears repeating. A few years ago there was some “art installation” thing done in the grounds of Alexandra Palace in North London, which looked like rubbish dumped (well, it was rubbish dumped..). Someone forgot to tell the park rangers who, to give them credit, were obviously on the ball, and they carted it away, assuming it was some scumbags dumping their crap.
“Surely it is this catalogue of errors, which caused incalculable social and economic harm, that has eroded people’s trust in the public health establishment, not the anti-vaxxers? “
Not really. Let’s be charitable for a moment and accept that what was done was a series of “errors” (I don’t believe this for a minute, but bear with me). The “errors” were then doubled down on and lied about, and it’s this lying and doubling down that leads us to rightly conclude not to trust the “public health” establishment.
Correct tof
Remember there were some Harrold Shipman Laws that got removed in 2020. This is no cock-up.
It seems highly implausible to me that the “covid” response was a well meaning attempt to mitigate what TPTB thought was a genuine public health emergency.
The hysteria here is because most children in developed Countries missed their usual plethora of vaccination because of the CoVid madness, but it turns out we are not swamped with epidemics of childhood diseases as a result, with corpses piling up.
It was an unintended clinical study of the effectiveness or necessity of these vaccination programmes.
The results of this show that vaccines aren’t the great protector claimed. Good hygiene, good nutrition and modern health care are the deciding factors.
And Measles – so what? Risk of fatality is 1 in 1 000 cases in the US.
Having prevented children from socialising when very young, delayed the development/training of their immune systems and community immunity to childhood diseases.
The law of unintended consequences has certainly put a big hole in the “vaccines” argument.
The knowledge of how to nurse someone with measles is being lost, prior to the 1970s everyone knew the following:
Keep patient in a dark, quiet room, so as not to stimulate the visual or auditory pathways, to lower risk of hearing or sight being affected. Orange juice and anything else with vit A and vit C. Supplemental vitamin A. Nutritious foods, like an egg ( vit A again). Plenty of fluids, add rosehip syrup or whatever for energy and nutrients. Children dehydrate easily, without fluids they will go down hill rapidly, every mother knew this prior to the 1970s, and I learnt it off my mum who presumably learnt it from her mother etc. Nowadays parents are largely ignorant about the importance of careful nursing; mind you, so is the NHS..
The child in the photo has chicken pox, not measles. My mum reckoned you could smell if someone had measles, she could confirm it before the doctor.
The local GP visited families with children suffering measles every day back in the 1950s and 1960s, just in case.
Now the Covid scam is finally wearing thin, they revert to the old playbook, in particular their old favourite measles.
Being 64 years old, I’m a survivor of the ‘deadly measles’. My mother remembered me having measles around 18 months of age (this would have been in 1961, and is unlikely to be laboratory verified…) She was a young mother, only 19 years old and I was her first child. She was shocked to see her baby covered in spots and called the doctor to the house. My mother recalls the doctor said I had measles, but told her not to worry, they would just run their course (a rather more benign message than we receive nowadays…) My mother said the spots lasted about ten days and I did not seem to be too adversely affected. She said “it did not put you off your food in any way” and “you used to sleep right through the night from 10.00 pm to 6.00 am.”
So I don’t buy the ‘deadly measles’ narrative.
Miri Finch has written a blistering open letter on this subject, to Sean O’Grady at The Independent, challenging him about his article calling for compulsory vaccination for children. See Miri’s letter via this link: https://miri.substack.com/p/open-letter-to-national-newspaper
The measles, mumps, rubella / MMR vaccination is the most blessed in the Church of Vaccination, but I suggest in the light of the Covid scam, where we’ve seen the threat of disease massively overblown, it’s time now for a review of measles, mumps and rubella, and all the other ‘deadly diseases’ for which there are vaccine products and revaccinations on the ever-increasing taxpayer-funded vaccination schedule.
Yes, I know this will set the cat amongst the pigeons because it’s so ingrained that measles is a deadly disease…but is it?
Way past time to break out of the confines of the ‘anti-vax’ tagging, and have a very serious look at these mass population medical interventions, which are so obligingly supported by governments and the medical and scientific establishment, the handmaidens to pHarma.
No. Its the locations that give one the main clue as to why people are not taking up the vaccine. The west Midlands. What is a common demoninator about the west Midlands….a certain group of people with a medieval mindset…?
I had Measles and German Measles as a child; also Mumps but I don’t think I ever got Whooping Cough.
I had the usual childhood jabs for someone born in the late ’50s and my sons who were born in the very early ’90s had the full schedule, including the MMR. I trusted “the Authorities” and my GP when they said there was no link with autism.
I didn’t have the Covid jab and neither did one of my adult sons. The other did, against my advice, because he wanted to travel. He had two Pfizer, fortunately with no ill effects, but has said he won’t have any more.
Post Covid I don’t trust the Authorities … or GPs now, because they must know about the obvious link between the jabs and serious adverse effects but they refuse to speak out.
I also think there is correlation between the increase in the number of jabs and autism. I know correlation is not causation, but I don’t trust the Authorities to properly examine the issue or tell the truth.
If my sons were children, they would not be getting the MMR or any other jabs which have recently been introduced. It would be Polio, the BCG and nothing else.