In an extraordinary scene in a recent session of the German Bundestag, German Minister of Health Karl Lauterbach simply denied outright that there is DNA contamination in COVID-19 vaccines, insisting that “the vaccines are manufactured with RNA, not with DNA”.
But, as is well known, the mRNA which serves as the active drug substance in the most-widely-used COVID-19 vaccine, that of the German company BioNTech and its American partner Pfizer, is manufactured precisely from plasmid DNA. The extensive DNA contamination which has been discovered in batches of the BioNTech-Pfizer vaccine by numerous researchers, including in Germany, consists precisely of residual DNA from the mRNA manufacturing process.
Asked by the member of the Bundestag Martin Sichert what the German Government planned to do about DNA contamination in Covid vaccines, Lauterbach replied in full as follows:
Right honourable member, I cannot answer your question. It is unscientific. You refer to contamination in the DNA of the vaccines. The vaccines are manufactured with RNA, not with DNA.
In a tweet of the exchange, Sichert describes Lauterbach as “dangerously clueless about his favourite topic, the novel mRNA vaccines”.
But, not to be outdone by Lauterbach, in the same session German Minister of Defence Boris Pistorius displayed similar denial of reality and devotion to mRNA technology – which, perhaps not coincidentally, appears to have been made a cornerstone of German industrial policy.
Thus Pistorius was repeatedly questioned by Sichert and his colleague Kay-Uwe Ziegler about the justification for the German army’s COVID-19 vaccine mandate in light of widespread acknowledgement that the vaccine does not prevent viral transmission. After Sichert wondered, finally, whether the Minister knew anything at all about the vaccine which he was requiring soldiers to take, a visibly irritated Pistorius put an end to the discussion as follows:
Right honourable member, to make this clear again: the COVID-19 vaccine is the most effective protection against serious illness and death and, at the same time, an important contribution to reducing the risk of infection and transmission. You can dispute this till kingdom come. That changes nothing. Thank you.
The Minister’s outburst was greeted with enthusiastic applause from other members of the Bundestag (see here from 58:37).
Translations from German by the author.
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Ignorant, idiotic, incompetent, negligent, or just plain malevolent? A mix of these for most. I care not, these morons are killing people including children. Hang ’em high.
Cue Hannah Arendt’s acute observation on Eichmann … “The banality of evil”.
If you don’t already know of Eugyppius (whose articles are often posted here), a German substacker (whose written English is better than most of us, is very funny and very smart), here he is on this weapons grade fuckwit…
https://www.eugyppius.com/p/in-which-jay-bhattacharya-punks-karl
“member of the Bundestag Martin Sichert”
AfD – more or less the Nazi Party. RW may correct me but I imagine telling a Goodthinking German that you support the AfD would be like supporting Trump or voting for the BNP in the UK.
Perhaps my sarcasm was too subtle for the downtickers.
Well, had your comment been expressed slightly differently, I think confusion would have been avoided. Repeating one element of your writing and suppressing another might make things clear:
“…telling a Goodthinking German that you support the AfD would be like telling a Goodthinking Brit that you support Trump”.
…otherwise you risk the more direct implication that voting for Trump is an act of foolishness. That’s certainly how I initially read it. I didn’t think that you’d say such a thing, and it may be that some of your uptickers aren’t Trump supporters, while most of your downtickers are! You then imply that voting for the BNP is of the same order of foolishness as voting for Trump, when in fact the BNP is/was openly racist in nature, while Trump, despite what Guardian readers would have us believe, is not. A bit of adding and subtracting makes your comment more graspable.
Thanks. I still think my meaning is pretty obvious, but 32 DS readers can’t be wrong!
Well, that’s just a denial of what I think is a reasonable explanation, so probably not much point my repeating it. Many people downticked for a reason other than that they’re not subtle enough to grasp your point. That’s all there to it. But I won’t bang on any further.
I think your explanation is reasonable
in fact the BNP is/was openly racist in nature
Is it?
Below is a quote from the BNP web site:
We accept that Britain always will have ethnic minorities and have no problem with this as long as they remain minorities and do not change nor seek to change the fundamental culture and identity of the indigenous peoples of the British Isles.
It’s openly nationalist, which would apply to Trump as well, except that American nation is a bit of an ill-defined concept, considering that the area has been colonized from people all over Europe (traditionally) and all over the world (more recently), that the USA is still far from being 300 years old and that at least sizable minority of the people living there would prefer to get rid of it rather sooner than later.
Please note that the silly (so-called) white people claiming to have an ethnic identiy means they’re obviously racist while every Hindu, Arab and even every Pole or Jew living Britain will primarily remain just that and nobody sees anything wrong with it manoeuver is not going to work here. Principles either apply universally or not at all.
It’s probaby more like going to a NUS conference with a Vote Tory! badge on your shirt.
Interesting. I had imagined they were completely beyond the pale in “polite society”. Expressing support for cuddly Tories like Sunak (rather than horrid ones like the fascist, racist Braverman) might get you cancelled from future dinner party invitations whereas saying you vote BNP might end up in you being asked to leave the premises immediately.
For members of the rabid left, who have absolute air superiority over anything public in Germany, the AfD is the NSDAP in anything but the name (they also like to refer to AfD voters as subhuman life forms and stuff like that). In reality, it’s virtually identical to the pre-Merkel CDU, just more eurosceptic and much more amicably disposed towards Putin, and most people know that.
Interesting, thanks. Does Germany have the same phenomenon of middle class metropolitan “liberals”, aka the chattering classes, as we do in the UK (especially London) – I know lots of these people here and they are all lefties.
I don’t really know this because I’ve never moved in such circles (beyond the one my parents used to be part of which firmly belonged to a pre-woke generation). Probably not as much because London is about as large as three largest German cities (Berlin, Hamburg and Munich) combined.
They are not vaccines.
Yep. Lauterbach’s Hugo Keith moment.
Yesterday, the dam broke in Germany though and/as public broadcaster MDR showed a fair and well made documentary about this issue and demanded further, proper investigation by the health ministry and its regulating bodies, in particularly the useless PEI.
Especially so as they tried to have vials tested themselves by the 20 biggest labs in Germany to see whether Prof. Koenig’s results are correct.
All of them refused to do that!
For lack of anywhere else to post this, and because this article is about Germany, here’s a recent statement from Reiner Fuellmich, who’s currently sitting in a German prison.
https://truthsummit.substack.com/p/reiner-fuellmich-statement-part-two?publication_id=1565735&post_id=139675726
A case of misplaced trust in his allies? Perhaps. We see the establishment are not playing fair in other ways, so it could be true.
Arrogance personified. I am the word, I am the truth.
I am Ozymandias,King of Kings, Look on my works ye mighty and despair.
Are we surprised by this blatant ignorance?