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The Scandal of How the Government Shut Down its Ethics Committee After it Tried to Intervene on the Vaccination of Children

by Molly Kingsley, Arabella Skinner and Ben Kingsley
24 November 2023 11:13 AM

In our new book published this week — The Accountability Deficit — we reveal that senior officials at the Department for Health and Social Care sidelined and then demobilised the Government’s committee of expert ethics advisors at the height of the pandemic and following a series of unwelcome challenges to the Government’s policy ambitions.

With a trail of evidence lifted from official published records, we document the brief life and premature demise of the Government’s expert group of moral and ethical advisors known as MEAG. Two former members of MEAG agreed to be interviewed and quoted about what happened, provided they were not named.

UsForThem – the organisation we founded to raise awareness of the plight of children and young people in the pandemic – approached almost all of the major U.K. daily and Sunday newspapers with this story. Most of them acknowledged its significance. Three were keen to publish articles. Two got as far as writing it up, and one proposed to run it on the front page. In each case though, the story was dropped at the last minute without a cogent explanation. This is odd, because the paper trail for the entirety of this story is in public records and so is capable of full verification.

This is a significant public interest story which demands accountability. Please read it and, if you agree with us, please share it. The fully referenced version of this story can be read in The Accountability Deficit, available now at Amazon and other book stores.

The genesis of MEAG

At the outset of the pandemic MEAG, the Moral and Ethical Advisory Group of approximately 20 experts selected as leaders in their fields of medicine, ethics, law, social science and religion, was tasked with advising ministers and senior officials on the challenging ethical aspects to decisions that would need to be taken. The DHSC was to convene weekly meetings of that group.

The three years of MEAG’s official existence coincided with a complex pandemic response which included lockdowns, mass school closures, mass population testing, the Covid vaccine rollout and related passports, and the vaccination of children. Each of these policies involved weighty ethical considerations, so one might have expected the Government’s advisory group on ethical issues to play a central role during this period; and for it to have been vocal and instrumental in setting ethical guardrails for legally and ethically robust policy decisions.

Early disappointment

Yet after having first felt to be “in demand”, according to one of our sources, by September 2020 MEAG members appeared disillusioned by a lack of engagement from the Government and so resolved in one of their meetings to “reach out proactively to senior civil servants in key policy areas” including the vaccination programme, mass testing and the impact of the pandemic on cancer screenings. Just a fortnight later, the DHSC appears to have clipped MEAGs wings by directing that it should shift its focus “to response work, acting as a constructive sounding board”. ‘Speak when spoken to, and be more constructive’ appears to have been the message.

An unexpected intervention

Following its final meeting of the year in December 2020, during which the public record shows that MEAG raised serious ethical concerns about the Government’s plans to launch a Covid status certificate or pass, the group reconvened in January to find that Chris Whitty, the CMO, had reportedly spoken with one of the Co-Chairs of MEAG and “counselled against producing documentation that offered recommendations, given the political aspect of decision making”. 

In other words, the CMO appears to have instructed MEAG not to put its recommendations in writing including, presumably, its views on Covid status certification. We do not know whether Whitty gave this instruction on his own initiative or as a messenger, but this is all the more surprising in light of Professor Whitty’s oral evidence to the Covid Inquiry this week about the imperative for SAGE to conduct its business with formally minuted discussions: “I was very firmly of the view that… [conversations] were much better done… where the scientific debate could be had with all the right people in a minuted conversation.”

Thereafter, MEAG’s meetings became infrequent. Our MEAG sources confirmed to us that this was a disappointment for the group’s members: “Initially the Government had seemed very accepting of our advice — as things went on they seemed to want to do what they wanted to do for other reasons,” said one.

A second wind…

In February 2021, the group sought to re-establish its voice by recording that “The ethics of vaccinating children would be an appropriate topic for MEAG to consider in the future”, and adding that “The Group agreed that where possible it would like to consider future items early on to maximise MEAG’s ability to aid decision-making”.  

DHSC and Cabinet Office officials later scheduled a meeting of MEAG for June 2021 to discuss the planned vaccination of children. In advance of that meeting, some members of MEAG circulated a memo which has never been published. We understand that memo referenced the rapid rate at which adults had been vaccinated, recognised that vaccination could save lives but also cautioned that children needed to be thought about separately, not least because the Covid vaccines are invasive, irreversible and may have long-term side effects which have yet to be identified. The memo reportedly also challenged the purpose of vaccinating children, questioned the known benefits and harms for individual children, and called for urgent consideration of the issues.

… short lived

But the DHSC apparently cancelled the meeting on the day it was due to take place, ostensibly because the JCVI was thought to be preparing to advise against the mass rollout of Covid vaccines to children. Though the rollout to children nevertheless went ahead a few months later, the meeting with MEAG was never reconvened.

MEAG was not then asked to meet for the entire summer period of 2021. This was a surprising moment for MEAG to be given an extended break by the DHSC: the Government was grappling with the hot potato of Covid status certification; a chaotic programme of testing and repeated self-isolations of children was being pilloried by politicians, experts and parents as unfair and unethical; and the JCVI was still considering whether to recommend the mass vaccination of children – all of which engaged material moral and ethical considerations.

MEAG was never given its chance to discuss the moral and ethical considerations of vaccinating children against Covid, despite the JCVI having confirmed that ethical considerations would form no part of its advice on vaccination strategy.

Restrained then retired

MEAG was reconvened on just three further occasions, but its attention was conspicuously directed away from the pandemic. In September 2021 as the U.K.’s four CMOs were controversially being asked to reconsider the JCVI’s decision to decline to recommend a mass vaccination of 12 to 15 year olds – one of the most contentious ethical decisions of the pandemic – MEAG was asked to advise on the topic of virginity testing.

In October, as the controversial Covid passes debate was crescendoing, MEAG was asked to advise on an extension to the statutory storage limits for eggs, sperm and embryos. And then in December 2021, as attention moved to the ethically contentious question of whether the Covid vaccination programme should be extended to five year-olds, MEAG was asked to advise on the use of artificial intelligence in medical imaging.

These were the last meetings of MEAG. “[The DHSC] just didn’t send any further business,” explained one of our sources. “I think in the end they realised that you can’t have a moral and ethical committee without trespassing on things that ministers think are political judgements… and that’s why it was shut down,” said another.  MEAG was formally — and quietly — disbanded in October 2022.

Ethical vacuum

In the absence of MEAG’s input from June 2021 onwards, it is far from clear how the moral and ethical implications of policy decisions were adequately identified and taken into account in the Government’s pandemic decisions. There appears to have been an ethical vacuum at the heart of U.K. pandemic policy-making.

We might have expected the Covid Inquiry to have probed the role of ethics and ethical advice in the Government’s decision-making processes, perhaps particularly during its questioning this week of senior officials. As The Accountability Deficit explains, though, surprisingly the only mention of ethics and MEAG during the inquiry’s hearings so far has been to imply a more prominent role for the group than the evidence suggests it ever had.

We believe this may be one of the most damning untold stories of the pandemic: it seems that ethics were not just disregarded at key moments in the pandemic, but that ethical advice from the country’s leading experts was suppressed, and those experts were then shut down, apparently for the crime of speaking truth to power. The result was a pandemic response which at times seemed to lack any ethical guardrails.

First published on the UsForThem Substack page. Subscribe here. The Accountability Deficit is available now at Amazon and other book stores.

Tags: ChildrenCovid InquiryCOVID-19EthicsLockdownMEAGVaccinating Children

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JayBee
JayBee
1 year ago

I didn’t even know MEAG existed. Another thing Germany did ‘better’:
Its Ethikrat and above all its most desp*cable Chairwoman and a chief villain of the ‘pandemic’ Alena Buyx, were constantly involved and on TV during the whole ‘pandemic’.
Because they were acting as a most enthusiastic moral justifier and rubber stamper of all government decisions, overreaches and discriminations!
The one member in Bavaria who saw things a bit more critically was immediately fired.
So, be careful what you’re asking for, I guess.
And as in the UK, Buyx just got ‘knighted’, receiving the highest medal of the state, the Bundesverdienstkreuz, for her (mis)deeds.

Last edited 1 year ago by JayBee
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AEC
AEC
1 year ago
Reply to  JayBee

Uneasy lies the head that wears a crown.
Would not be Buyx for anything in the coming years. The world is waking up to the atrocities committed. Suspect the middle management – the public faces of the plandemic – are destined almost without exception for chew toy status.

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huxleypiggles
huxleypiggles
1 year ago
Reply to  AEC

“chew toy status.”

A most appropriate phrase. I do hope you are correct.

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JaneDoeNL
JaneDoeNL
1 year ago

Ethics were not ‘disregarded’, they were deliberately ignored, as it is now clear that the whole point of the vaxx rollout had absolutely nothing to do with saving lives and everything to do with introducing the digital social control pass, in this article referred to by the far too innocuous term of ‘status certification’.

By the time they started stabbing children it was beyond dispute that the poison did not stop infection or transmission in any way shape or form – the only so-called argument they ever had for forcing that garbage on the entire population in the first place.

The time has now come for public health and medical ‘experts’ who were ‘suppressed’ to speak out – I do not care whether they believed at the time, perhaps even still believe, that there was some merit to the mrna poison that was passed off as a vaccine – they know full well it carried significant risks for large sections of the population which far, far outweighed any so-called benefits. They also know the pressure and coercion was not only unethical, it was criminal. It is time to speak out while they still can, they may face far worse punishments in the future if they do not speak out now. I hope every time they hear of some young person who “died suddenly” that the guilt suffocates them until they finally speak.

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CircusSpot
CircusSpot
1 year ago
Reply to  JaneDoeNL

The scam is to lay the path ready for the next Plandemic with mandatory jabs for all and placebos for the few.
No one behind this is going to speak up now as that way they will not get the promised placebo shot the next time around.

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huxleypiggles
huxleypiggles
1 year ago
Reply to  JaneDoeNL

“...it is now clear that the whole point of the vaxx rollout had absolutely nothing to do with saving lives and everything to do with introducing the digital social control pass,”

I don’t believe the overriding purpose was the pass. My view is that the injections were being pushed primarily because they had in-built maim, kill and sterilising functions and this is why they were targeting children and are still targeting children.

BB posted a good explanation a couple of days ago. Apparently because the injections are intra-muscular they will end up in the ovaries and the testes – with negative effects fir reproduction.

The digital pass will be attempted later. The priority now is to sterilise the children.

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RTSC
RTSC
1 year ago
Reply to  JaneDoeNL

Correct. The EU published its planned schedule for implementing a Vaccination Passport in 2016. The implementation date was 2022. What a coincidence 🙂

The whole Covid tyranny was carefully planned over years.

https://health.ec.europa.eu/system/files/2022-12/2019-2022_roadmap_en.pdf

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huxleypiggles
huxleypiggles
1 year ago

https://www.globalresearch.ca/genocide-government-reports-pfizer-documents-reveal-sinister-agenda-depopulate-covid-vaccination/5834966

And the sinister agenda in question is depopulation.

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Ron Smith
Ron Smith
1 year ago
Reply to  huxleypiggles

“This alarming increase, which has prompted the European Union to launch an investigation, occurred despite efforts by EuroMOMO to downplay the figures!

Can’t see them looking too hard into it, any more than those Pfizer emails to the EU president.

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huxleypiggles
huxleypiggles
1 year ago
Reply to  Ron Smith

Exactly.

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Jabby Mcstiff
Jabby Mcstiff
1 year ago

I don’t know if they will live to adulthood I would imagine probably not. But even if they do then the men will be seedless and the women will have wrecked ovaries. We need to accept this because it is a reality. It is difficult to see where we will go from that point onwards.

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7941MHKB
7941MHKB
1 year ago

I suspect that the two from MEAG who quietly spilled the ethical beans, will get treated a bit roughly by Hallett and her KC enforcement goons.

Sneers and “Go f%&* yourselves” will be amongst the mildest responses from the Hallett Star Chamber.

Then perhaps they will find time to praise Susan “Stalin’s Nanny” Michie for her selfless, nay, saintly performance as chief Pleb Nudger. With recommendations to HMG that she be elevated to a Hereditary Duchess, the better to lord over the world’s plebs in her new WHO role with Tedros and Farrar.

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RTSC
RTSC
1 year ago

Did the Nazi’s have an ethical committee?

No of course not. So why would their political descendants?

Tyrannies don’t bother themselves with ethics.

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