Brussels has been left reeling by what EU politicians see as a “nightmare” victory for Geert Wilders and his ‘Nexit’ supporters in yesterday’s Dutch general elections, reports in the Netherlands say. The Mail has more.
The 60-year-old’s populist PVV (Freedom Party) won 37 seats, according to near complete results, signalling a dramatic shift to the Right in the EU country.
The Eurosceptic party’s unexpected but resounding win prompted immediate congratulations from fellow far-Right leaders in France, Hungary, Italy, Spain and Belgium, who said it showed “borders and rights must be defended”.
However, the landslide has raised fears in Brussels on account of PVV’s anti-EU stance, and its pledge to hold a binding referendum on leaving the bloc.
This, according to Dutch newspaper De Telegraaf, means that victory for Wilders is a “nightmare” scenario for EU bureaucrats, who ever since Britain left in 2020 have feared the emergence of another challenger to the bloc’s status quo. …
“Wilders’ wish for a Nexit in particular makes Brussels tremble,” the Dutch publication reported, pointing to his and his party’s outspoken Euroscepticism.
In its manifesto, the PVV said it wants “a sovereign Netherlands, a Netherlands that is in charge of its own currency, its own borders and makes its own rules”.
Therefore, the party rejects any form of “political union” like the EU – “an institution that is pulling more and more power to itself, hoovers up taxpayer money, and imposes diktats on us” according to its platform.
“The PVV wants a binding referendum on Nexit, the idea that the Netherlands could leave the EU” – just like Britain did in 2020, after a divisive referendum in 2016.
Until such a referendum, the manifesto says the Netherlands wants to become a net recipient of EU funds, not a net contributor. The party also rejects any further EU expansion, and wants to restore its veto power in Brussels.
Finally, the PVV wants to tear down the EU flag from Government buildings.
“We are in the Netherlands. Only the national flag flies here.”
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It will be interesting to see if the Dutch civil service allows him to implement his policies.
Are the wheels starting to come off the socialist juggernaut? The BBC, still reeling from Argentina’s result, goes on the attack with the headline “Anti-Islam populist Geert Wilders wins dramatic victory“. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-67504272 They go on to say…
Ahh, yes, the ‘far-right’ again. The Marxist morons can’t get enough of that one. The BBC: always worth a read to get to know your enemy…. or simply to have a good laugh. Anyone that’s a regular visitor to this site and is still paying their license should be ashamed of themselves. Hopefully, that number is zero.
Anti-Islam – a proud label. I am anti-Islam, anti-Muhammadanism, anti-Sharia, anti-Jihad, anti-female genital mutilation, anti-4 wives, anti-Christian beheadings, anti-Koranic totalitarianism. So is Geert.
Been following Geert for 20 years. A wonderful man and a great victory. A true giant is Geert. Against all the odds.
Islamophilia is a leftard disease. LIke Climate and Rona.
Yea I have known about him since way back in 2008-9. His famous quote….”We must stop being tolerant to the intolerant”.
Popper’s famous paradox of the “open society” – at some point, even the most tolerant society must no longer tolerate the intolerant.
In the UK that moment has long past, tho’ there is no sign of the PTB accepting that.
Female genital mutilation isn’t an Islamic requirement.
Male genital mutilation is. Are you against that, too? Because you’d then have to condemn the Jews as well..
I am inferring from your comment that you are comfortable with Islam’s tolerance of “others” because Islam doesn’t require female genital mutilation? Is that what you are saying?
No, that’s not what I’m saying
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Islamofascist is a completely bizarre composition of terms. Fascism was an Italian, nationalist political movement in the first half of the 20th century. Islam is one of the three large monotheistic so-called world religions derived from the Jewish old testament. As such, it claims to teach universal truths applicable to all of mankind regardless of national boundaries and ethnic groups. That the continued occupation of the site of the Dome of the Rock by the state of Israel has seriously pissed off a seriouls lot of muslims all over the world and that the descendents of the people who lived in Palestines prior to the English/Arab/Jewish conquest of it in 1918 are not exactly happy with the outcome of that doesn’t turn these people into “something like Nazis.”
Executing homosexuals is ok with you as well is it? How about stoning women for adultery? Are you ok with that as well?
I do….I refer to male circumcision as MGM. Totally unnecessarily for a functioning body part.
Yes, but having had it done at age 54 after a consequence of diabetes I can say it’s probably less affecting than as an infant.
You need to read the Old Testament to understand the whys and wherefores of male circumcision.
Wow. ————You gave it the full Monty mate.
I refuse to even visit their website as I don’t want to give them the traffic.
I get that. It always leaves a sour taste in mouth after visiting, but I need to know my enemy. In my mind it’s like Wellington being offered the opportunity to look at Napoleon’s battle plans, and Wellington saying “nah, the guys an idiot, why bother?”. We win this only by understanding their strengths and their weaknesses. That’s what I believe anyway.
Who else uses the term “far right”??
Excellent news, the very best of luck to him!
The Far-Right now describes about 90% of the political spectrum.
The Free Speech Freedom loving UK banned Wilders from visiting. Damned good he has got in power. Now what will the nascent fascists in our government do? Fortunately, because they are incredibly weak people, they will of course welcome him and act like their overreach never happened.
“Incredibly weak people” that stand bye as their own women and young girls were and are being raped in towns all over England.
With 24⅔% of the vote, Wilders won’t even be able to implement anything radical if he should happen to become PM and not – seems much more likely to me – just the leader of the largest opposition party still frozen out of everything which actually counts.
Absolutely. An outside chance he can set up a government in alliance with parties who won’t agree to do anything. More likely the other parties will form a coalition sans Wilders. Not necessarily too bad for him, he can stand on the sidelines & lob bricks, maybe win 50 seats next time when unstable coalition fails.
The Dutch always have coalition governments. There are far more parties and for the PVV to get so many votes is a big deal. Wilders will get first choice to try and form a coalition majority. With the VVD or maybe Omzigt’s party and smaller right of centre parties that is doable.
If none of the other parties plays ball, there is the option of a VVD and left coalition. This would be a difficult message for the electorate.
Would be nice if the rhetoric around politics changes. This far-right label is getting quite tedious and is polarising.
Exciting times!
Maybe so but 10 years he had 5%. This is a sea change. He will expose the corruption and lassitude of the deep state and people won’t be able to ignore the obvious nor the int’l mafias that really control governments.
Yesterday the EU voted with a small
majority to stop country’s vetoes on a number of issues.
I think this is a further power grab by the EU.
The EU is – in reality – the council of representatives of the governments of the EU member states. This implies that the EU cannot grab power, it can only be transferred to it.
Quick summary re: How the EU works in the hope that it will help someone. The EU is a confederation of states and not a federal state. This implies that its not sovereign. Only the EU member states are. It has three important gremiums: The European Council, the European Commission and the European Parliament.
The council is composed of representatives of the governments of the EU member states. Depending on the issue at hand, this will either be certain ministers, eg, all the home secretaries, or – for more general issues – the respective heads of governments. The council discusses and votes on general policy proposals.
The commision is the EU executive, the EU Whitehall, so to say, except that’s vastly smaller than the real Whitehall. The commission creates draft EU legislation based on the decisions of the council.
This draft legislation is then discussed and voted on by both the European Council and the European Parliament. It becomes EU legislation if both approve of it.
This is – of course – much more complicated in reality but that’s the general picture.
Yes, we know how the EU operates, and how its structures were designed to avoid being affected by democracy.
The reality is that it manages to avoid democratic control most of the time.
Jean Monnet was most unimpressed by having the electorates tell politicians what they wanted so he arranged for a structure that could avoid that.
Yes, we know how the EU operates, and how its structures were designed to avoid being affected by democracy.
The reality is that it manages to avoid democratic control most of the time.
No, you don’t. And that’s because you deliberately refuse to learn about it because repeating (US) nonsense propaganda about the EU is something which apparently suits you better. Which gets us back to that Sun Tzu quote (from memory this time):
If you know neither yourself nor the enemy, all of your battles will end in defeat. If you know yourself but not the enemy, each of your victories will be followed by a defeat. If your know yourself and know the enemy, you won’t have to fear for the outcome of a hundred battles.
I’m unsure if your position is more towards one or more towards two, however, that Brexit now for more Muslim (and Hindu) immigration! completely escaped you despite this was explicitly marketed as such strongly suggest one.
The EU, ie, collective decision-making by so-called democratically elected governments of EU member states, avoids democratic control in the exact same way all these governments already avoid democratic control in their respective home countries. And that’s because democratic control by electing parliaments of corrupt politician which end up being bought by the same ‘international’ usual suspects – see Rishi’s conversion from Paul to Saul during a single COPXY happening – is a carrot dangled out of reach in front of your nose to keep you mentally occupied while your pockets are not-so-covertly emptied at the same time.
Cologne Christmas Market 2015. ———-What did your “Commisions”, your “Councils and “Parliaments” do in the wake of this and other atrocities committed by immigrants all over Europe? —————–NOTHING. Infact they cover it up and continue to do so. Wilders represents the decent people who want to put a STOP to this mass rape of our women and girls, and the dual legal system that now exists in Germany and elsewhere where creeping sharia is occurring and where politicians and the legal system pander to this diabolical disgrace.
I didn’t design the EU (if anything, its purpose is probably mostly to cement French hegemony of western Europe) and hence, it’s macchinations are not mine. Apart from that, I fail to see how your text would relate to mine.
Stopping vetoes is a vote for Nexit ….?
”The Eurosceptic party’s unexpected but resounding win prompted immediate congratulations from fellow far-Right leaders in France, Hungary, Italy, Spain and Belgium, who said it showed “borders and rights must be defended”.
One wonders why the DS is going along with other MSM reports and using the term ‘far right’. What distinguishes right and far right? Where would Churchill, Thatcher, Reagan and Macmillan feature by today’s ‘far right’ designation?
Great question?
I don’t think the DS is using the term, it’s simply quoting The Mail (or whichever rag is carrying the story).
I try not to get riled up by ‘far right’: it only has power if you allow it to get to you – a bit like ‘anti vax’. It’s bolleaux and at this stage, meaningless.
Better far-right than far-idiotic Marxist.
It was a quote from the Daily Mail.
Mailonline will not allow serious comments about what is really going on in Europe and the extent to which sex crimes and rapes are being committed by immigrants to levels 20 times higher than the indigenous population. Why they do so is beyond me. They make it clear that the views of their readers are not necessarily the views of the Mailonline so what are they scared of? ——–The whole media and political class are wimps. They will say and do anything to protect the multicultural cesspit.
100% – when will the term ultra far left woke Marxists be used to the usual suspects on DS – no OFCOM to trouble TY WJ etc …
This may not be quite as big as it appears at first instance.
Although I voted for the PVV, I’m rather surpised by the outcome, I didn’t expect such a big win. My guess is that many people were pissed off with Rutte and the VVD, but were also terrified that the GreenLeft/Labour “alliance” (i.e. political sell-outs with zero integrity who will join in cahoots with the devil if it gets them political power) would be the biggest party and former EU green czar Timmermans (although his EU salary is not “former”, he is still receiving that – campaigning in style on the taxpayer’s dime) would be PM. Outside of Timmermans himself (and his masters in Brussels, of course), I don’t think anyone wants to see him as PM.
Yes, most parties would prefer to ignore the PVV and lock them out, but the win was too big to try to pull that stunt. They will have to let the PVV try to form a government. Pieter Omzigt of the new NSC has indicated he would be willing to see where this leads. The VVD is the most obvious 3rd party, but prior to the election, the silly bint that took over from Rutte had indicated she wouldn’t sit in a cabinet with the PVV. Now she’s painted herself into a corner – I suspect the vast majority of the VVD would have no problem aligning with the PVV, it is where Wilders originated. The VVD and the PVV share a lot of common ground, the PVV enables the VVD to echo what it says in a more moderate manner, which has helped the VVD no end over the years. If Yesilgoz refuses to negotiate with the PVV, I should imagine she will be booted from her position as leader of the VVD very quickly indeed. No one in the VVD wants to risk a left cabinet coming in, nor will they wish to ignore so many voters. These 3 parties will have a solid majority; the logical step is to bring in the Farmer’s party – it has a lot of seats in the upper chamber of parliament, Omzigt’s NSC, being a new party, has none.
What such a coalition would mean is probably some brakes on immigration, some slowing down of the Brussels ever-expanding reach, but that’s about it. With a little luck a push-back against the destruction of the agricultural industry and the disastrous net zero nonsense (which I suspect a lot of politicians want to back down from but don’t know how). I doubt the VVD or NSC would agree to a Nexit referendum. They both know immigration is out of control, having the PVV play bad cop allows them to slow it down without being the bad guy. I also suspect such a coalition will not last more than 2 years.
The BBB should also be looking at taking the last government to court for conspiring to commandeer their land that was sometimes handed sown from generation to generation. They should be first against the wall!
Do you realize how bizarre this TLA¹ soup reads? So-called right wing challenger parties have been on-and-off members of governments starting with the FPÖ in Austria a long time ago. This hasn’t changed anything except the important people from the formerly right wing challenger TLA ‘discovering’ (typically very quickly) which side their bread is buttered on and consequently, turning their new-and-exciting-everything-will-be-different-now TLA into yet another TLA of the usual kind.
¹ Three-letter-acronym.
Yes, it just goes to show how deeply embedded the WEF approach to governments is, sadly it is really difficult to dislodge them and their fellow travellers.
Political courage is in very short supply, and often leads to failure from people who don’t want to lose their sinecures.
Thanks for your informed opinions
Decent, interesting analysis.
And anything that “gives the EU nightmares’ is right up my street.
Pity we were both not going to the Sceptic xmas party as I would be the first to buy you a drink. But since we won’t be there, I hope you have a great Christmas and prosperous new year free from Net Zero and immigrant tyranny.
What a lovely sentiment. I would love to go to the Sceptic party, it would be fun to see some of the people who post here in the flesh (if anyone from BTL is going). As I’ll be going to London in February it was a no go.
If you’re ever in NL, let me know and I’ll buy you a drink.
Despite my comment above, I do think the tide is slowly, slowly turning. More and more people, including our so-called representatives, can see that immigration and net zero and the ever-expanding eurocracy are the road to hell. Wilders, Meloni won’t change it, but they help to start altering the path we are on, they give the more moderate-voiced a way in.
Moderator here: That’s a shame re Cmas party, you were both on my guest list
So where was the hand-printed personal invite?
If there’s a party next year, I will attend if possible.
Ben Habib on GBN….”
Governments around Europe don’t care about sovereignty and wonder why the PVV got elected. There are organisations like Open Society, UN, WEF, that are hostile to sovereignty and you wonder why there’s so many conspiracy theories”
Not a theory mate….Reality!
Habib is actually ok , he’s on our side , I think he was just stating the fact that most people wouldn’t believe these bodies he mentioned exist, primarily to destabilise the western world ! Add the so called charity Common Purpose to his list !
He is a brave, brave man. He’ll perhaps struggle to put together a coalition however.
That certainly sounds more like an aspiration for independence than we have ever heard from any of the westminster Parties. They have worked incessantly since the referendum over seven years ago to minimise the extent to which we separated from the EU.
MSM coverage of the Dutch election, there was not one comment or interview from a Wilders’ voter. It was presented as a bad turn of events even though it was a firm democratic statement. Will democracy speak louder than media?
The political class are useful idiots , they have ruined Europe ! Bastards !!…
Read “While Europe Slept” by Bruce Bawer.
Thanks for that ,I will check it out
Yes. Most of this isn’t even intent on the part of the majority of politicians, they just do as they are told and are too stupid and too cowardly to speak out even when they see things are going seriously wrong.
Do people think rapists should be locked up? Yes they do. It is a despicable crime. Do people think that no matter who does the raping that they should be arrested and locked up? ——Yes in principle I think they probably do.—— Yet in Sweeden 20 times more sexual assaults and rapes are committed by immigrants than by indigenous Swedes. Similar things are happening in Norway, and Germany. But for being aware of this and wanting to do something about it people like Wilders are attacked for being terrible people and racist. How totally upside down the western world has become by being infected by the Liberal Progressive virus that covers up these atrocities and tries to deny it is happening. eg in Sweeden you can be arrested by criticising mass immigration and pointing out that most of the sex crimes are committed by the mainly young muslim immigrants. This is a diabolical disgrace.
Surely we should follow their own policy and stone them to death? So much less trouble in the future.
I think rather than saying “Until such a referendum, the manifesto says the Netherlands wants to become a net recipient of EU funds, not a net contributor.”, he should say “Until such a referendum, the Netherlands will put in place policies that prioritise, support and boost its home industries, so it is equipped for the world stage after Nexit.”.
Fingers crossed for Marine LePenn – not that I am a supporter, but anything which ‘shocks’ the Brussels Reichsführers gets my vote.
Maybe, if enough anti-EUers take governments in EU Countries, we might get back to EFTA.