Musk is not an anti-Semite. Neither is Trump. Neither are most of the other conservatives who have been falsely accused of antisemitism by lefty organisations in America and Britain since 2016.
These claims that major figures on the right are antisemites is a transparent dodge aimed a diverting attention from the obvious fact that the explosion of antisemitism in America, Britain, and other Western countries is taking place primarily on the progressive Left – and that this explosion of antisemitism is being driven by the same alliance of ‘anti-racists’ that have been trying since 2016 to brand most conservatives and Christians as ‘racists’.
Yes, there is genuine hostility to Jews in certain circles on the Right, both among self-professed Christians and among anti-Christian ‘neo-pagans’.
But the antisemitic Right still has only a tiny fraction of the real public presence and political influence that is wielded by the antisemitic Left and its close allies, the Muslim supremacist organisations in the West.
It is the antisemitic Left that is flooding the campuses and the streets and inciting to violence throughout the West. Nothing remotely on this scale has been organised by antisemitic elements on the right in the decades.
I say this as someone who follows developments on the right with great care, and who knows much more about what is and isn’t happening on the right than most of the professional ‘experts’ on the subject.
Anyone who is trying to pin ‘antisemitism’ on Musk or Trump or any other major conservative figure right now is playing the role of a ‘useful idiot’ of the antisemitic progressive Left.
If you actually want to see antisemitism defeated in America, Britain, and other Western countries, let’s see you direct your fire at the actual source of the danger and violence right now – which is two orders of magnitude greater on the Left than it is on the Right.
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Why are you conflating anti-war, anti-Israel policies as anti Semitic? This is extremely dangerous misattribution. So Jews against bombing Gaza are antisemitic?
Clearly not.
Israel has a BIG problem and it’s not aided by trying to adopt a victim narrative and abrogating the historic Jewish pain all to itself in order to execute more historic pain on the local populations.
If you have fallen for this leftist victim strategy, you are the one with a problem.
You may want to look up, ‘abrogate’.
Or (s)he may want to look up arrogate, which I think was intended (trying to be helpful rather than critical).
I did not use the word, AYM did. I was trying to be helpful rather than critical.
I meant arrogate.
Why are you conflating anti-war, anti-Israel policies as anti Semitic?
Because that’s – since ever – the standard tactic of the government of Israel to deal with any criticism. Preferably while both taking German money to support its policies and claiming the Germans aka Nazis are somehow involved with it, which they’re both doing at the moment.
You’re right that Israel has a big problem, tens or, more likely, hundreds of millions of Muslims plus their supporters on the left who refuse to recognise Israel’s right to exist.
If you’ve fallen for the lies that demos are only, or even mostly, about a humanitarian ceasefire your the one with, and part of, a problem.
Actually its the Zionists who refuse to recognise Palestinians have a right to exist.
It’s a small minority of Ultra Orthodox Jews that want to see all Palestinians removed from Israel and the occupied territories. Their numbers are insignificant compared with the number of Muslims who want to cleanse Israel of Jews. They generally aren’t armed and have carried out a terrorist attack since the Hebron massacre in 1994.
Don’t try and avoid the issue and compare the 2 sides in a struggle between civilization and barbarism.
I am not avoiding any issue I speak as I find, and Israel is occupying land it has no right to in Gaza as well as stealing Palestinians gas and oil too. I’ve seen the videos of IDF forces beating up the Orthodox jews as for barbarism what Israel is doing is a crime against humanity!
There’s no gas or oil deposits in Israel or the occupied territories.
A justified war against a barbaric enemy is not a crime against humanity, the slaughter of 1,400 civilians could be classed as one.
I suggest you do a bit more research as you seem a bit light on facts!
OK they have a tiny amount of oil reserves, in round numbers 0.0% of global reserves.
http://www.worldometers.info/oil/israel-oil
If these reserves are within the internationally recognised borders of Israel they can’t steal what belongs to them.
Are you saying that even if they were stealing it that would justify 7 October?
Are you aware that the media told lies about what actually happened and the media had to walk back on their claims? Do you believe Mossad, and the western intelligence services didnt know what was being planned, Egypt even gave out an alert about it! Going back to oil and gas – I am not talking about ‘reserves’ there are oil and gas fields off of Gaza – Sunak’s inlaws have even signed a contract with Israel!
If there are known oil and gas deposits off Gaza these are reserves. Look up the definition of oil or gas reserves.
What lies have the media told and where have they walked them back?
Obviously there were failings somewhere that allowed Hamas to carry out their barbaric attack.
Are you saying it was justified?, yes or no.
You seem to be trying to justify the slaughter of 1,400 innocent civilians you sick b*****d.
Israel has not occupied Gaza since 2005.
Good point, although in the light of what happened last month it could be seen as a mistake not to do so.
Well this did gladden my heart today, especially because I was there. I passed by and saw all of these Israel flags ( ‘Bring Them Home Now’ are the organizers ), took a closer look and there’s approx 60 boats sailing along the canals of Amsterdam and many people supporting from on dry land. So refreshing to see a completely different dynamic and vibe. And you know what? Not a single face muzzle did I see. I guess the lack of hate-fueled hostility, demented fervour and zero mental illness on display will do that..
https://twitter.com/eurojewcong/status/1725920147892752659
I’m so pleased being amonst the cattle of humanity gladdend your heart.. nothing quite like being around deluded folk who believe every narrative is there… You must have certainly felt at home Mogs..
Nice try but much like my other hater/stalker/troll on here, you obviously think I came down with the last shower. The fact you just started your account today and this is your first and only post isn’t overly smart is it?
Same M.O, same broken record…
But I guess it’s slightly more original than your last username, eh?
I won’t deign to engage with somebody of your ilk again so go ahead and knock yourself out. Floor’s all your’s.
Whose the other hater?
Elon Musk is not an antisemite for the simple reason that the antisemites where a political pressure group (or a set of political pressure groups) in Germany in the 19th and early 20th century. They actually used the term for themselves as it – in their opinion – communicated something positive, namely, opposition to integration of the (considered to be) racially different Jews into the German societies of Germany and Austria which had occurred in the early 19th century as they were seen as valuable source of soldiers¹ for armies based on mandatory military service of all citizens of a state.
¹ To a degree. For instance, while Jews nominally had equal rights in the German Empire, they couldn’t generally become reserve officers as they were considered to belong to the non-officer-worthy classes.
Words can change their meaning over time. Today everyone accepts that an antisemite is anyone who hates Jews. Using this definition and not trying to be clever, Musk isn’t an antisemite.
Words can change their meaning over time.
Yep. Humpty-Dumpty already said so.
You’re correct about Humpty-Dumpty, but what’s your point?
That this term hasn’t changed its meaning but is intentionally abused for propagandistic purposes: Arab/ muslim hostilty to Israel and people believed to support it has zero relation to historic antisemitism, but is the direct outcome of the politics of Israel since 1948, especially, the large number of successful wars it conducted against its present day enemies.
Israel is the militarily dominant power in the region and has acted aggressively towards all of its neighours in the past. Yet, the government of Israel keeps trying to play a Still victim of Nazi persecution! card by inappropriately using the term antisemitism to link its present-day enemies to the persecutors of the past.
Isn’t this the usual M.O. for these people, name calling and ‘labelling’ to shut people up? Brexiteers were called racists, now anyone not fully cheering on the genocide in Gaza is an anti-semite.
Guess that makes me an antisemite. I’m not cheering on genocide in Gaza because there is no genocide.
Hamas invades Israel, murders 1200 people, rapes women, kills babies, kidnaps people, uses civilians and hospitals as shields, makes up fake civilian casualty figures for propaganda purposes, has ruled Gaza for many years and has done nothing to lift Gaza out of poverty, their leadership has become very rich, they take aid money and use it to enrich themselves and for military purposes instead of helping the people of Gaza, and who gets blamed – Israel.
Proof that Hamas lied about civilian casualties in a previous conflict.
http://www.camera.org/article/reporting-of-casualties-in-gaza/
I can’t see much in the way of argument here. “Musk is not an anti-semite” because… There follows nothing about Elon Musk.
The rest of the post is about identity politics. Sikh Lives Matter. Sikhs Don’t Count. Anti-Sikh mobs wearing Sikh-like headgear. Or some such ethnic-religious group or other.
https://jewishjournal.com/commentary/columnist/365220/the-inside-story-of-how-palestinians-took-over-the-world/
this article describes how the alliance between easily duped American college students and Islamist radicals was created. Be sure to read down far enough for Ameer Makhoul’s statement to the author.