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The Munk Debate on the Crisis of Liberalism Missed the Plot

by Bruce Pardy
10 November 2023 1:00 PM

On Friday, George Will squared off against Sohrab Ahmari in the Munk debate on “the crisis of liberalism”. But the crisis didn’t come up. 

Will is a prominent conservative commentator who writes for the Washington Post. Ahmari is an author, editor and publisher who has advocated “common good conservatism”. They debated whether ‘Liberalism gets the big questions right’ at Roy Thomson Hall in Toronto. Sir Jacob Rees-Mogg, a British Conservative MP and the most dynamic speaker of the evening, joined Will to support the motion. Ash Sarkar, a writer and lecturer who called herself a libertarian communist (“I’m a tall short person”) argued alongside Ahmari to oppose it. 

The proceedings missed the plot. The audience did not get a definition of liberalism, nor a clear sign of what the debaters believed the ‘big questions’ to be. Standard tropes littered the stage. Liberalism produces prosperity, said the Pro side, and has raised millions out of poverty across the world (true). But free trade with countries like China has decimated Western working classes, argued the Con side, who suffer from an epidemic of drug addictions and despair (also true). Sarkar turned out to be a plain old communist whose dogmatic drivel grated on the ears. 

Even the quotes were predictable (Will from Margaret Thatcher: “The trouble with socialism is that eventually you run out of other people’s money”). But the biggest problem was that the speakers equated liberalism with conditions in Western countries as they presently exist. The evening turned into a debate between champions of the current order (Will and Rees-Mogg) and those advocating for more government (Ahmari and Sarkar). Everyone seemed to agree that the West, even today, is liberal.

If only it were so. Liberalism is a political philosophy of individual freedom. The word ‘liberal’ derives from libertas, the Latin word for liberty. “Don’t tell me what to do” is the liberal mantra. Liberals – real liberals, not modern woke progressives, who are anything but liberal – believe that people own their own lives. They should buy and sell what they want, say what they think, have sex with and marry whom they please, worship as they wish, be responsible for themselves, and leave other people alone. And most importantly, they believe that the state should not interfere. Liberalism means that people are free to sail their own ships.

Non-liberal systems of government have one thing in common: some people rule over others. As Frederic Bastiat wrote, the legislator “bears the same relation to mankind as the potter does to the clay. Unfortunately, when this idea prevails, nobody wants to be the clay, and everyone wants to be the potter”. The alternative to liberalism is illiberalism.

For periods, political cultures in Western nations at least aspired to the liberal ideal. The purpose of government, says the American Declaration of Independence, is to secure individual rights to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. If you live in a Western country today, you still have more freedom than most of the rest of the world at most other times in history. 

But Western liberalism is fading. Over many decades, managerialism, not liberalism, has become the West’s prevailing ethos. An expansive welfare state regulates, supervises, subsidises, and controls modern life: markets and financial systems, public schools and universities, health care, media, food production, energy production, telecom services, the professions and even speech. Free market capitalism is in retreat, replaced by cooperation between governments and big business. 

People are subject to the arbitrary discretion of Government agencies which pursue their own agendas. Identity politics reign and the surveillance state expands. Moreover, the public has been convinced that Government administration is necessary. Civilisation has become too complex, they believe, not to be managed by an expert bureaucracy. 

Genuine individual autonomy has become so foreign to our expectations that the word ‘liberal’ now has a different meaning. To be called a liberal does not mean that you believe in liberty but in the nanny state. Today’s liberals are not individualists but ‘progressives’ seeking to shape society in their best judgement. They support higher taxes, social justice, wind turbines and non-gender pronouns.

During Covid, the erosion of real liberalism accelerated. Suddenly, in the name of an airborne virus, state authorities assumed unprecedented powers to control movement and behaviour. They imposed the most serious peacetime restrictions on civil liberties in modern history. Governments colluded with pharma companies to abbreviate established processes for developing and approving vaccines, and then to mandate their use.

In the Munk debate, none of this even came up. No one mentioned Covid restrictions. No one mentioned the decline of the rule of law and weaponisation of the legal system for political ends. No one mentioned Government censorship or media collusion. Will cited Covid vaccines – one of the most significant Government projects in Western history — as the triumph of a free market. Ahmari claimed them as the successful outcome of Government intervention. Ironically, no debate could have demonstrated better the West’s crisis of liberalism.

Bruce Pardy is Executive Director of Rights Probe and Professor of Law at Queen’s University. This article was first published by the Brownstone Institute.

Tags: CensorshipCOVID-19LiberalismLockdownMunk DebateProgressive LeftVaccineWoke Gobbledegook

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James.M
James.M
1 year ago

As you say, liberalism has become illiberalism. Do as I say, not as I do.

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FerdIII
FerdIII
1 year ago
Reply to  James.M

Liberalism – just a queer brightly coloured clothing ensemble covering the gestapo uniform and jackboots underneath.

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JeremyP99
JeremyP99
1 year ago

Liberalism is no more. Get real.

And read the late Kenneth Minogue’s obituary of Liberalism from 2010; were he still with us he would be horrified at how rapidly the West has collapsed in the face of Woke.

https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/8527360-the-servile-mind

RIP Western Civilisation. I shudder at what will come in its wake.

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huxleypiggles
huxleypiggles
1 year ago
Reply to  JeremyP99

Seconded 👍

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EppingBlogger
EppingBlogger
1 year ago

Definition is indeed the problem. Whereas it used to mean libertarian lite and free trade. Now it means left, socially libertarian but economically restrictive with price controls and a big state.

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transmissionofflame
transmissionofflame
1 year ago
Reply to  EppingBlogger

“socially libertarian” Sort of. Libertarian with regard to abortion, sexual behaviour but not with regard to freedom of speech.

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huxleypiggles
huxleypiggles
1 year ago
Reply to  transmissionofflame

Hey tof, where have you been?

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transmissionofflame
transmissionofflame
1 year ago
Reply to  huxleypiggles

Holiday from both work, the UK and from matters sceptical. Back now, feeling refreshed!

Thanks for noticing 🙂

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huxleypiggles
huxleypiggles
1 year ago

“Will cited Covid vaccines – one of the most significant Government projects in Western history”

We can state with total conviction that the C1984 “vaccines” were and remain “one of the most significant Government projects in Western history”

I presume the significance referred to is all the excess deaths so far, those to come, the loss of the capacity to have children and the life-shortening impacts on those who fell for the injections. Significant indeed.

This George Will either neglected to research his subject before engaging vocal chords or he’s not particularly bright.

Last edited 1 year ago by huxleypiggles
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transmissionofflame
transmissionofflame
1 year ago
Reply to  huxleypiggles

Also significant in terms of forcing people to have untested “medical treatments” at their own expense, and establishing a new protocol for “testing” and “authorising” “safe” and “effective” “medical treatments”. Also not sure why he refers to them as “vaccines” when they are clearly nothing of the sort.

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DHJ
DHJ
1 year ago

Decades ago, liberalism had been referred to as a Trojan horse for communism. Why not use that as a definition? Given recent history, might as well apply the same definition to conservatism.

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RW
RW
1 year ago

Insofar the so-called west is or was partially liberal, this was always a liberal-for-some-elite pseudoliberalism. In Germany, pensioners privately discussing politics may find themselves in the crosshairs of the inland secret service once their discussions stray to far from permitted topics and will ultimatively end up being arrested – to much international fanfare – as right-wing terrorists just for doing that — privately discussing politics. That’s a core feature of the political system western liberals have installed there.

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Smudger
Smudger
1 year ago

Odd that this organisation should invite a loyal member of the Conservative Party to speak. This man is no classical liberal he went along with all the authoritarian Covid measures and mostly follows the fake Conservative Party line.

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