Hamas likes nothing better than an Israeli strike that kills civilians, says Jake Wallis Simons in the Telegraph, which is why its tunnels wind under civilian towns and villages, with operation rooms under hospitals.
Take a step back, and most people instinctively understand that a democracy must act against a gang of jihadi fanatics who murder their citizens in the most appalling ways imaginable. After all, we have our own experience of such atrocities, not least in the bombing of the Manchester Arena. Add constant media coverage of Palestinian deaths into the mix, however, all filtered through the propaganda lens of Hamas, and our emotion starts to cloud our sense of proportion.
War is hell. And a just and defensive war is as hellish as any other. That may not make a difference to a Gazan woman whose child has perished in an Israeli strike on a Hamas cell nearby, but – without downplaying the importance of human compassion – it should make a difference to our judgement. During the Second World War, many times more Germans died than Britons. Did that make our campaign immoral? Of course not. But these are the common-sense conclusions that are obscured by the weight of propaganda.
Understandably distressed by the constant coverage of dead babies, people become inclined to overlook the obvious fact that a genocidal terror group may also, on occasion, lie. They believe Hamas’s inflated death tolls, which are produced instantly without time for investigation and validation. They believe Hamas’s presentation of the deaths as entirely civilian, without asking any questions about whether any terrorists have perhaps been killed. They don’t even question the allegation that Israel has cut off Gaza’s water supply entirely for a month, even though a human being cannot survive in such conditions for longer than three days. And when the Israeli army points out the lengths it goes to in order to protect innocent life, and points out Hamas’s use of human shields, the Israelophobic public scoffs and turns away. …
The deaths of Iraqi civilians in [Mosul] were no less gruesome than those suffered by Gazans today. Does an Iraqi life matter less than a Palestinian one? Given that nobody took to the streets when Assad barrel bombed Palestinians in Yarmouk during the civilian civil war, it seems that both are normally viewed with equal indifference by the British public. But not when the perpetrators are Jews. And not when the terror group mounts an effective propaganda campaign, which is amplified gratuitously by both mainstream and social media.
Unlike Islamic State, Hamas knows this and builds its strategy around it. It values the lives of its own civilians little higher than those of Jews, seeing them not as people in need of protection but as living weapons of war. Despite investing hundreds of millions in building terror tunnels, it has failed to build a single bomb shelter for its people in Gaza. The tunnels wind under civilian towns and villages, with operation rooms under hospitals.
Hamas likes nothing better than an Israeli strike that kills civilians. That is why it has reportedly been preventing its people from fleeing the war zone, sometimes by force. They seemingly want Palestinian casualties to pile high, in full view of the world’s media. The BBC and others beam footage of the horror of war around the world to people who have lost touch with the reality of armed conflict. Hamas want people in the West to take to the streets in outrage, forgetting that even a just and defensive war is hell. They know this will help them win.
Worth reading in full.
Stop Press: The Mail highlights an interview with two pro-Palestinian protests who say they had no idea Hamas had attacked Israel last month.
Stop Press 2: The White House says Israel has agreed to four-hour daily humanitarian pauses in hostilities to get hostages out, announced three hours in advance, starting today.
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If the more ruthless members of the Israeli regime wanted an excuse to flatten Gaza, what better than a terrorist group with a tunnelling fetish. Anywhere could be a target, who’s going to verify there was a tunnel?
Douglas Murray was commenting on the presence of Hamas leaders in London. Perhaps they have ongoing business with the government?
The presence of these tunnels and their locations has been known for getting on for 20 years during which time they have expanded.
We have seen that at least two hospitals in Gaza City were built with tunnels as part of the foundations, it’s pretty clear why that is done. Sadly the process of removing the people who profit from this is messy and unpleasant, but needs to be done if there is any chance of a peaceful future in the region.
They have always, and will always, be very far removed from this.
You have to start somewhere. I’m not keen on any of the groups (I include the ones outside the middle east too) but I don’t for one minute think that they’re going to go away.
Where I draw the line is with a group of people who behaved as they did on October 7th with bloody slaughter for the sake of it that was greeted with delight instead of revulsion. If you think that this is acceptable then you have abandoned much of your humanity.
If you think the carpet-bombing of Gaza is an acceptable response, so have you.
It is an entire city of tunnels under Gaza. Hamas has its own hospitals – in the tunnels. It’s like the city of Gazprom (less lights) but so far below ground, no rocket can pierce it from the air. The IDF knows this – this is not about getting Hamas. If it was, they’d have assassinated the Hamas leaders above ground by now.
That was exactly my thought when I heard him mention that. Assuming the information is true, I don’t believe for a minute those Hamas leaders “slipped in” without the security state knowing about it. They know full well who they were giving citizenship to. Who knows what is behind it, what the UK security apparatus is getting out of it. But you can be sure they’re getting something.
Who knows who’s behind it? Same people who always profit. Shares in Lockheed, Shell et all all went up on Oct 7 and the bankers started printing more money from thin air that we, the gullible taxpayer, pay interest on. A simple transfer of wealth obfuscated by layers of nonsense such as the puppet show that is Parliament.
And here’s the latest from Billy. Compulsory Digital ID ‘s by 2030 – to save the children.
https://www.globalresearch.ca/bill-gates-digital-ids-mandatory-participate-society/5839440
I seem to remember in the iraqi Invasion when Sadam Hussain used humans as shields he was reported as being the most despicable bast#@d who ever lived, now this tactic goes unnoticed! How things change dependent on the faddy political wind at the time!
Based on this article, they’re not intended to be a shield. If the intention was to clear the area of Palestinians for whoever may want that, it certainly helps.
Well, if we’re talking of human shields –
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2005/oct/07/israel
At least Hamas use their own.
The wonderful grauniad. Bravo!
People have said some stupid things about the current war, but this takes stupidity to a whole new level.
Are you really trying to justify the use of human shields or deliberately placing military targets in heavily built up areas?
Is there anything the barbaric monsters in Hamas can do that their idiotic cheerleaders such as yourself won’t try to justify or at least downplay?
Have you had a sarc bypass?
Great article. I think this is also a great video. It’s funny but also seriously highlights the fact that Israel are damned if they do and damned if they don’t. They’ll be hated regardless. ‘Mission Impossible: Israel Edition’ ( <3mins )
https://twitter.com/MarinaMedvin/status/1722589668372271330
I agree 100%. They’re stuffed either way. Which is why Israel should give up trying to appear to be nice, figure out a unilateral solution and impose it. They’ll get a lot of stick for it for a while, but eventually they’ll be respected for their strength and resolution. That is sadly what humans at the end of the day respect above else, strength and success.
They should work out which bit of their land they are willing to give to the Palestinians, give it to them, build a massive wall between it and their own part and defend it like the North Koreans defend their border with South Korea. Let them have their country once and for all, but have nothing at all to do with them.
It’s the only solution.
The Israelis have been treating the Gazans appallingly for the last 20 years- an open prison effectively, hemmed in on all sides physically and economically stifled = inevitable unemployment and disenfranchisement.
Of course the response of the demonic Hamas regime has been horrific, but given the policy of the (secular) government of the Israeli State over this period of time, it was hardly likely to be a response of compromise. As the weaker combatant in the conflict, their response was always likely to be more outrageous, but that doesn’t excuse the policy of Israel over the past 20 years, regardless of the liberal nature of Israeli society. There is nothing anti semitic about making this observation.
There are no good guys in this conflict.
One side a lot less awful than the other. If you think people deserve to be slaughtered simply because of their religion/country of birth or there’s any kind of equivalence between butchering civilians for the sake of it and inflicting unavoidable civilian casualties while trying to destroy an enemy that wants to wipe your country off the face of the Earth and deliberately places military targets in civilian areas there really is no hope for you.
It’s Israel trying to wipe Gaza of the face of the earth in case you hadn’t noticed. And no, Hamas does not have the destruction of Israel in its Covenant – if you even bothered to check instead of trotting out the same old tired, lazy tropes, it’s even on the UK Gov website.
This is Israel trying to appear nice? What colour is the sky in your world? It’s never been anything other than a unilateral decision. ‘Which bit of land they’re willing to give the Palestinians’ – oh, they’re all heart – Peace Prize – quick!! I leave you with the words of Moshe Dayan (ex Israeli Defense Minister/IDF): ‘Jewish villages were built in the place of Arab villages. You do not even know the names of these Arab villages, and I do not blame you, because these geography books no longer exist; not only do the books not exist, the Arab villages are not there either…You [Palestinians] shall continue to live like dogs, and whoever wishes may leave, and we will see where this process leads’.
Well now they know.
I do agree with some of the complaints by posters that DS coverage has been very one-sided. Toby, in the Weekly Sceptic podcast, even stated that he thought questions raised about the strange set of coincidences that led to a catalogue of security failures were “distasteful”. Like we can definitely 100% trust Israel and its US controlled allies. Yeah, right. I could not possibly simply pick a side as I think it is way too nuanced and complex
After saying all that, the number of people who have suddenly decided that the Palestinian plight, which includes Hamas as their holy army, cannot be questioned has surprised me.
Don’t choose a side, that’s what they want. It’s exactly what they’re banking on this weekend. Unfortunately, I think too many people have fell into their trap.
Who’s they? Answering that might identify the real source of the problems.
And if you’re asking that then you’re on the wrong site. We don’t need to explicitly identify who ‘they’ are to know that ‘they’ are there.
I’m not convinced by the globe-spanning Muslim octopus conspiracy-theory that seems to have reared its tentacles in the last few weeks.
The unsolicited influence of people with inordinate wealth and power seems like common sense. I’m curious about the specifics.
Not the faintest idea of what you’re talking about. I think you’ve done that new Lefty maths of 2+2=5. Anyway, I can see your busy on here, so don’t want to distract you. Enjoy.
So you’ve no further information on what you mean by “they”?
This one’s for the people who think that because they see Jews taking part in the pro-terrorist marches it automatically means it qualifies as a ”peaceful protest”. ( <2mins )
https://twitter.com/NiohBerg/status/1722313852186960135
Assuming you didn’t grow up in Gaza or Israel: if you had, what do you think you would be doing in relation to the current situation?
Nothing Simons writes is worth reading in full, except perhaps the admission he made a few years ago that he would always side with Israel against the UK.
Yet another nauseating article.
The thousands of videos showing the grief on Palestinian families faces clutching the remains of their children shows that Hamas wouldn’t last 5 minutes if Palestinians thought Hamas was at all at fault for those deaths.
It is Israel who shows no compassion to the safety of it’s own people as it transpires today that Israel used Apache attack helicopters to launch rockets and strafe the fleeing crowd at the Nova festival indiscriminately killing far more civilians than Hamas freedom fighters.
Their Hannibal Doctrine has been used to use tanks to shell kibbutz houses knowing they are occupied by Hamas and civilians.
I hope the Palestinians use their tunnels to inflict as much damage as possible to the brutal occupying forces of Israel many of whom have no ancestry to Palestine whatsoever.
Where on earth are you getting your info from? Because if this is the footage you’re referring to then you’ve taken the bait, hook, line and sinker. There were no rockets fired at the people at the festival, they were all shot at. And if this footage is green because it’s night time then it’s blatantly false because the music festival slaughter happened in the daytime.
https://twitter.com/Megatron_ron/status/1722661654716882949
“Leaked Footage from Israeli Airforce Shows IDF Apache Helicopter Firing on its OWN Citizens at Supernova Music Festival on October 7
“The pilots realised that there was tremendous difficulty in distinguishing within the occupied outposts and settlements who was a terrorist and who was a soldier or civilian.”
[…] “The rate of fire against the thousands of terrorists was tremendous at first, and only at a certain point did the pilots begin to slow down the attacks and carefully select the targets.”
https://t.me/VanessaBeeley/20512
“Video footage of aftermath of rave party shows acres of burned out cars. This damage is far more likely to be caused by Apache Helicopters and tanks than Palestinian Resistance factions that were not using weapons capable of this destruction over such a wide area.”
https://t.me/VanessaBeeley/20513
“The damage done to these bodies could not have been done by Resistance Factions weapons. The likelihood is that IDF tanks or Apache helicopters would have generated such incineration.”
https://t.me/VanessaBeeley/20514
“More footage of IOF helicopters firing on unidentified cars:
“The Apache pilots testify that they fired a huge amount of munitions, emptied the ‘belly of the helicopter’ in minutes, flew to re-arm and returned to the air, again and again. But it didn’t help and they understand it,” Mako reported.
The Apache helicopters appear to have focused on vehicles streaming back into Gaza from the Nova electronic music festival and nearby kibbutzes, attacked cars with apparent knowledge that Israeli captives could be inside.
They also fired on unarmed people exiting cars or walking on foot through the fields on the periphery of Gaza.
One Apache pilot reflected on the tortuous dilemma of whether to shoot at people and cars returning to Gaza. He knew that many of those vehicles may have contained Israeli captives. But he chose to open fire anyway.
“I choose targets like that,” the pilot reflected, “where I tell myself that the chance that I am shooting here on hostages as well is low.”
However, he admitted that his judgment “was not 100%.”
In 4 hours, 300 cars were targeted.”
https://t.me/VanessaBeeley/20515
I think this is what you’re referring to, complete with video ( in Hebrew ). But it’s plain to see how much you hate Jews and despise Israel, therefore nothing presented which doesn’t align with your views is going to make any difference;
”After the pilots realized that there was tremendous difficulty in distinguishing within the occupied outposts and settlements who was a terrorist and who was a soldier or civilian, a decision was made that the first task of the combat helicopters and the armed Zik drones was to stop the flow of terrorists and the murderous mob that poured into Israeli territory through the gaps in the fence. 28 combat helicopters fired over the course of a day The fighting all the ammunition in their stomachs, in rearming rounds. These are hundreds of 30 mm cannon shells (the effect of a spray grenade for each shell) as well as the Hellfire missiles. The rate of fire against the thousands of terrorists was tremendous at first, and only at a certain point did the pilots begin to slow down the attacks and carefully select the targets.”
https://www.ynet.co.il/news/article/b111niukzt
I hate people for what they “do” NOT for what they “are”.
How can people who criticize the brutal apartheid Israeli government be called anti-Semitic or “Jew haters” when there are, or were, so many Jewish people to admire like Sir Gerald Kaufman MP, writer and musician Gilad Atzmon, Professor Shlomo Sand, Writer Noam Chomsky, Norman Finklestein, Richard Falk, Gabriel Kolko, Dr. Norton Mezvinsky, Henry Siegman, Judge Richard Goldstone, Professor Don Peretz, journalist Eric Rouleau, Harvard Professor Sara Roy, Professor Jennifer Loewenstein, former Minister in the South African government Ronnie Kasrils, Professor Saul Landau, Professor Zachery Lochman, Professor Joel Beinin, Professor Ian Lustick, Professor Edward Herman, writer Stephen Lendman, Anthony Loewenstein, Professor Steven Zunes, Stanley Heller, Danny Schechter, Lenni Brenner, Jeff Blankfort, author and journalist Alain Gresh, Professor Cheryl Rubenberg, renown author Philip Roth, Professor Michael Selzer, Professor David Fromkin, Professor Emeritus in the Political Science Department at Boston University, Howard Zinn, author Seymour M. Hersh, Bob Simon, Senior CBS Foreign Correspondent, Barry Lando, former CBS Correspondent, Democracy Now radio host Amy Goodman, media critic Norman Solomon, writer Bennett Muraskin, Professor Lawrence Davidson, Jerome M. Segal, director of the Peace Consultancy Program at the University of Maryland’s Center for International and Security Studies, Professor Mark Levine, Rabbi Michael Lerner, Rabbi Brant Rosen, Jewish Voice for Peace activist Sydney Levy, Mark Braverman, author Phylis Bennis, journalist and editor David Finkel, Professor Mark Ellis, Joel Fischer, Professor University of Hawaii School of Social Work Honolulu, Professor Noel Ignatiev, Santa Barbara University of California Professor Bill Robinson, Allan C. Brownfeld editor of the American Council for Judaism Issues magazine, New York University Professor Bertrell Ollman, Dr. Gideon Polya, an Australian academic, activist and writer Ralph Schoenman, writer Mike Marquisee, Swedish activists Snorre Lindquist and Lasse Wilhelmson, New York Times journalist Anthony Lewis, journalist Robert Scheer, journalist and blogger Philip Weiss, journalist Adam Horowitz, blogger Richard Silverstein, activist and writer Tim Wise, State University of New York Professor Eric Alterman, Tsela Barr, Judith Laitman and Haley Michaels Pollack, members of Madison Friends of Jewish Voice for Peace, Michelle Goldberg, activist and writer Adrienne Weller, Dan Leiberman, Editor of Alternative Insight, Dr. Marc Sapir, Hannah Mermelstein, Anna Baltzser, Professor Sharon Weill, Professor Randall Kuhn, author Ben Ehrenreich, actor Ed Asner, and many other leading Jewish activists, intellectuals and religious figures and all those young, brave Israelis who refuse to join the IDF?
Why don’t you remove that gold star from your account picture ? It may have been amusing during the coof, but now it’s just grotesque.
I’m leaving it there just to annoy people like you.
very glad you mentioned this.i thought so too, is like whoopee goldberg.
In what kind of sick twisted reality are participants at a music festival a brutal occupying force?
Since when did people deserve to be butchered simply because of the country they happen to of been born in?
The British government has done some fairly unsavoury things such as allowing British firms to sell weapons to the Saudi’s who use them to kill civilians in Yemen. Does this mean that as a British citizen I’m at all responsible or deserve to be killed in a revenge attack by Yemeni’s?
What sort of callous people hold an impromptu “rave” on a Jewish religious holiday just 3.1 miles of open scrub from the biggest concentration camp in the world housing 2 million fenced in and subjugated Muslims?
Closer to the rave was the Re’im military base which was probably the intended target of Hamas.
Reports have stated that IDF soldiers and security guards were at the festival and fired on the advancing Hamas fighters who returned fire. There is video footage of armed and uniformed Israeli security forces within the crowd.
Many of the people attending the rave were militarily trained and probably had arms in their cars.
Yasmin Porat, who sought shelter in Be’eri kibbutz from the nearby Nova music festival. She told Israeli Radio that once Israeli special forces arrived: “They eliminated everyone, including the hostages because there was very, very heavy crossfire.”
Unfortunately, many civilians were killed in the crossfire at the music festival, at the Kibbutz and elsewhere. Mainly due to the Israeli Hannibal Directive where they kill as many Hamas freedom fighters as possible regardless of the welfare of any hostages or civilians.
As gauche as that ill-fated rave may have been in hindsight, that is NO good reason to blame the victims. I’m old enough to remember when “blaming the victim” was supposed to be a BAD thing, even when “blame” and “victim” are VERY broadly defined indeed.
As for calling the barbaric and cowardly rapists and babykillers of Hamas “freedom fighters”, seriously? You are only proving Mogwai’s point, lol.
If you give the thinly-veiled antisemites enough rope…
Your government and their Zionist presstitutes in the main stream media will be pleased you have believed all their lies and propaganda.
So you really believe it was an Israeli inside job or false flag, much like the 9/11 inside job conspiracy theories? At least the latter has more evidence in favor than the former does. I mean, was the IDF deliberately told to stand down like NORAD was or something?
It’s a possibility.
9/11 was, at the very least, allowed to happen by factions of the Zionist US security services so that the US could kill many people with brown faces and rape their countries of natural resources whilst their military industrial complex made lots of money from the death and destruction.
Perhaps the Hamas attacks were also allowed to happen by the same Zionist factions within Israel so they could commit their “final solution” against the Gaza Strip, the West Bank and all Palestinians?
If not then it is a humiliating defeat for Israel from which they will struggle to recover.
How’s about something like a swear box on this site. Stupid ant-semitic posts allowed, of course, but a fiver to the Free Speech Union.
Excellent idea!
https://www.conservativewoman.co.uk/bidens-son-and-brother-subpoenaed-to-testify-under-oath/
This recently is Breaking News. Hunter Biden and Joe’s brother subpoenaed to appear in court.
“IN A major escalation of the investigation into the Biden family’s foreign business deals, House Oversight Committee Chair James Comer has subpoenaed President Joe Biden’s son Hunter, the president’s brother James and family associate Rob Walker to testify under oath next Monday. You can read the full report here.”
Tasty!
https://www.conservativewoman.co.uk/holiday-inn-cancels-great-resist-conference/
Further Breaking News from Kathy Gyngell at TCW.
“Liz Philips, the organiser of the Great Resist Conference due to be held on Saturday, alerted me last night that the Holiday Inn in Liverpool had cancelled the booking with less than three days to go. The management said hosting the conference would might make them ‘appear to take sides on political matters’.
Well it looks very much as if they have taken sides with an activist group that has been campaigning against the Conference, an outfit called Liverpool Against Hate with its 524 followers.”
Very sad and probably costly for the organisers.
Holiday Inns owned by Intercontinental Hotel Group, CEO Elie Maalouf:
https://globalny.biz/person/id/264
Looking at Elie Maalouf’s business associates he probably has links to the WEF ie Davos Deviants.
That’s who has cancelled the event Kathy.
That sounds like the Israelis are playing right into Hamas’ hands. I wouldn’t have thought them so gullible.
This is old but there’s no evidence to suggest the terrorists aren’t still using these tactics in their massive propaganda campaign. The Hamas Interior Ministry had some instructions for their social media activists;
“Anyone killed or martyred is to be called a civilian from Gaza or Palestine, before we talk about his status in jihad or his military rank. Don’t forget to always add ‘innocent civilian’ or ‘innocent citizen’ in your description of those killed in Israeli attacks on Gaza.
“Begin [your reports of] news of resistance actions with the phrase ‘In response to the cruel Israeli attack,’ and conclude with the phrase ‘This many people have been martyred since Israel launched its aggression against Gaza.’ Be sure to always perpetuate the principle of ‘the role of the occupation is attack, and we in Palestine are fulfilling [the role of] the reaction.’
“To the administrators of news pages on Facebook: Do not publish close-ups of masked men with heavy weapons, so that your page will not be shut down [by Facebook] on the claim that you are inciting violence. In your coverage, be sure that you say: ‘The locally manufactured shells fired by the resistance are a natural response to the Israeli occupation that deliberately fires rockets against civilians in the West Bank and Gaza’…”
Additionally, the interior ministry prepared a series of suggestions specifically for Palestinian activists who speak to Westerners via social media. The ministry emphasizes that conversations with them should be conducted differently from conversations with other Arabs. It stated:
https://www.memri.org/reports/hamas-interior-ministry-social-media-activists-always-call-dead-innocent-civilians-dont-post
A general point needs to be made here – not specific to this issue.
Daily Sceptic should surely be challenging mainstream reporting? Isn’t that what it says on the tin? I don’t mean taking sides – but I do mean putting an opposing viewpoint when only one narrative prevails. Furthermore, it seems quite contrary for a sceptic publication to promote copies of that prevailing narrative.
Think of how repetitive phrases are picked up and challenged: ‘safe and effective’, ‘build back better’, ‘conspiracy theorist’ etc when they are regurgitated across multiple platforms. This is because they are symptomatic of attempts to close-off debate so that an agenda can be pursued.
I think more investigation and scrutiny may be required – less cut-and-paste and fewer hasty conclusions. Rise above the tabloids.
And above Ofcom, which could easily become even more censorious than it is.
Further to that note, this item in today’s “Roundup”: https://www.conservativewoman.co.uk/the-climate-scaremongers-ofcom-has-one-rule-for-gb-news-but-no-rule-at-all-for-the-bbc/ was well worth reading, including it’s comments (I don’t sub to it, but it’s readable to all).
I suggest that anyone who downticks a request for a sceptical publication to scrutinise more should return to reading tabloids.
And an article by the editor of the Jewish Chronicle isn’t propaganda? Let’s get this into context. If this were the holocaust and the extermination of the Jews was all over the internet, we’d be marching in support of ending the genocide of Jews. Like we marched against lockdowns, against mandatory jabs for care home workers and jabbing children. Did you maybe miss the protests in London against the bombing of Yemen, Syria and Iraq – the last one being ten times bigger than any of the end the Gaza blockade/bombing marches. Of course there’s propaganda on both sides. This is how the world works. It’s why CNN pushed the 40 decapitated baby story before having to apologise @sarasidnerCNN ‘I would argue we were mislead. I am going to report on what heads of governments say. That is what new orgs do. It doesn’t mean it’s true but it’s news. Look at your own bias. No Muslim State (Caliphate) but yes to a Jewish State? And questioning the death toll – imagine someone did that in regard to the Holocaust. They’d be a Holocaust denier. As for the track record of civillian casualty – yes the US and UK don’t give a stuff how many they murder overseas, but Russia’s SMO civillian casualties in 1.5 years (mostly in the Donbas so many killed by AFU shelling) currently stands at 10,890. Gaza in 1 month: 10,771 – you can deny it if you like or you can perhaps consider that doesn’t include those under the rubble. As for Hamas ‘reportedly’ preventing Gazans from leaving – that’s right ‘reportedly’. Even if Rafah wasn’t closed because Egypt doesn’t want more Palestinian refugees, the Gazans don’t want to leave – I know this, because I’m in contact with Gazans – they don’t want to give any more land up to they view (as does most of ROW – hence Occupied Territories) as their occupyers.
This is not about Jews. This is about people dying needlessly and the funding of forever wars. Had people stood up against the Holocaust, maybe more lives could have been saved. If we don’t stand up against this, who does?
Really doesn’t matter what the Israel haters pontificate about here.
As always, since 1948, Israel will win. This time though it will obliterate Hamas and doesn’t need your permission.
As ever, it will conduct itself impeccably in this most complex of environments, creating a case study for every modern army to follow.
Sadly, in every war there are civilian casualties, which of course Hamas plans to maximise. Only the haters ignore that inconvenient fact.
History repeats itself, as evidenced by the disappearance of Babylon, Greece, Rome, the Ottomans, Nazis and British Empire.
Let’s hope it doesn’t create a ‘case study for every army to follow’ – more likely to avoid. They should have got Putin to do the job – far less civilian casualties. RF: 10K in 1.5 years. Israel 10K in 1 month. Impeccable.
The whole point of the Hamas terror attack was to draw the response from Israel. The more Palestinian civilians killed the better in order to start a wider war. The hostages were taken to try to slow that response down if needed. So far Hamas has failed in all its main objectives.