Senior Conservative MP Paul Bristow, a Parliamentary Private Secretary at the Science Department, has broken ranks with Prime Minister Rishi Sunak to call for a “permanent” ceasefire in Gaza. The Telegraph has the story.
In a two-page letter to Mr. Sunak, Mr. Bristow said: “Thousands have been killed and more than one million now displaced. It is difficult to understand how this makes Israel more secure or indeed makes anything better.”
He welcomed calls from Mr. Sunak last week for “specific pauses” in the fighting, but added: “A permanent ceasefire would save lives and allow for a continued column of humanitarian aid [to] reach the people who need it the most.
“Access to water, electricity and fuel is vital for the Palestinian people. My constituents and I would be grateful for your comments on the actions our Government is taking to ensure that people in Gaza do not face collective punishment for the crimes of Hamas.”
In further comments on his Facebook page, Mr. Bristow said: “Ordinary Palestinians are not Hamas. I struggle to see how Israel is any safer following thousands of deaths of innocent Palestinians.
“They should not suffer collective punishment for the crimes of Hamas. We need a ceasefire.”
A post including the letter on Mr. Bristow’s website on Thursday has now been deleted, but it remains live on his Facebook page. It was not posted to his Twitter or Instagram profiles.
Mr. Bristow is the MP for Peterborough, where the Muslim population is almost double the national average.
According to the 2021 census, Peterborough has a Muslim population of 12.2%, while the proportion of the overall British population identifying as Muslim is 6.5%.
He is also the Co-Chairman of the All-Party Parliamentary Group on British Muslims, which sets out to highlight the “aspirations and challenges” facing Muslim communities in Britain and recognise their contribution to society.
Worth reading in full.
Bristow doesn’t specify how, in his view, a post-ceasefire Israel should go about rescuing the hostages or dismantling Hamas. Presumably that’s because he doesn’t agree that dismantling Hamas is a legitimate military goal, or at least an achievable one. But we don’t know, because in common with almost everyone else calling for a permanent ceasefire he doesn’t feel the need to fill in the gaps of what Israel should do instead of sending in the military to try to rescue the hostages and disarm this long-running security threat.
His letter implies he thinks the Israeli response is intended to be a “collective punishment” for the recent Hamas atrocity. But that would be a war crime, and is clearly not what Israel is up to. Israel’s aims are clear: to return the hostages and neutralise Hamas. Civilian casualties are highly regrettable consequences of the way Hamas uses its population as human shields. They are obviously not what Israel is aiming for. The assumption that they are is redolent of antisemitic tropes – why assume Israel is trying to slaughter civilians? – even where such tropes are (if we’re being charitable) not intended.
Those calling for a ceasefire often say they want peace. But Hamas has shown that it has no intention of honouring a ceasefire or living at peace with Israel. We can be sure Israel is pursuing this strategy because it believes that it is the most likely way – indeed, the only way – to achieve a lasting peace. The notion that peace could be achieved were Israel simply to lay down its arms lacks seriousness. October 7th showed that there will be no peace in Gaza and Israel while Hamas remains at large. Maybe it will not be possible fully to dismantle Hamas and neutralise it as a threat to the Jewish state. But it’s now clear that to do so is the only way to reach an enduring end to hostilities in the country.
Stop Press: Bristow has now been sacked from his Government position.
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That won’t go down well on here, mass dissapointed..
“bomb them off the face of the earth”….
That’s what Hamas has said that want to do to Jews all along from their luxury HQ in Qatar
And that’s what the Jews ARE doing
What do you mean by “the Jews”? All Jews everywhere? Jewish Israelis? “Zionists” in Israel or everywhere?
In reference to to post in which I replied.. Period
Sorry I am not following. I imagine Lockdown Sceptic meant all Jews everywhere, as that’s what he presumably thinks Hamas want to do – but that’s not really the issue. The question is when you used the word, what did you mean by it?
I mean it’s all very well saying that conflating Hamas and Palestinians is inaccurate, which it possibly is, but should we not also try to be accurate about the “other side”?
I should have written “Jews”.. Hope you’re following now
I’ve removed my tongue from my cheek too…
Seriously? Looks like you skipped all of the usual antisemitic dog whistles and went straight to the bullhorn. But truly sunlight is the best disinfectant.
Quite. I’ve never known so many people to conflate so many different things in such a short space of time. Divide and conquer at its finest.
Looks like Bristow has been sent off for dissenting with the referee.
Quite.
What’s the score now – about 8,000 plus Innocent Gaza former residents, (and still counting). Many thousands more scarred for life.
But, call for it to stop and you’re simply a jew hater.
Seems to me that the West, and sadly around 40% on here are quite happy for the genocide to continue, How many dead kids will it take before the downtickers stop – maybe wipe Gaza off the face of the earth. And then what?
Can nobody see that all this does is to ramp up hatred against Israel, And the deadly cycle will continue.
Job done for the US though, no danger of Israel normalising relations with Saudi..
8,000 plus Gazans dead, get real. These are figures released by the authorities in Gaza which is Hamas. Since when did you trust baby killers to tell the truth? During the last Israeli strikes on Gaza (2018 if I remember correctly) It was proved that Hamas were showing pictures of dead/injured children that had been taken in previous strikes and claiming they were current pictures.
Hamas is still firing rockets at Israel from built up areas, what are the Israeli’s meant to do?
Hamas knew full well what the response would be when they launched their barbarous assault against innocent civilians. They aren’t interested in ordinary Palestinians, they just want to die as martyrs and get their 72 virgins in paradise. Israel isn’t delibaretly killing civilians and beheading babies they are trying to destroy a well armed group that is sworn to wipe them off the map. I’m supprised that so many people commenting here are unable to understand this simple difference between the 2 sides.
What the hell do you think Israel should do, sit back and wait for the next murderous attack?
And hopefully those 72 virgins will turn out to be…incel miscreant guys like Elliot Rodger.
In hell.
It was claimed by Ibn Warraq, author of ‘why I’m not a Muslim’ that virgins is actually a mistranslation of ‘white raisins of crystal clarity’. It almost makes me hope there is a paradise full of severely disappointed suicide bombers and other assorted terrorists.
Indeed. Consider the source.
You’re quite correct.
I should have asked for the the score since 1948, and pointed out that Hamas didn’t exist until 1987 – and grew from the way that Israel had been (and still is) killing Palestinians and stealing land,
Galloway is an antisemite, hard left lunatic and probably a member of the Socialist Workers Party.
Why would anyone with any sense listen to a word he has to say.
What the f**k has my vaccine status got to do with anything you moron?
Would you even believe me if I said I was unvaxed? Not that it’s any of your business.
FFS why don’t you stop trying to take the easy way out of launching personal attacks and actually try an adult response to the points I’ve made you pathetic twat.
..because we are having to listen to the fascist anti Palestinian lunatics in the Israeli Government and their spokespeople here..it’s only fair?
Since when was equating baby killers with the only liberal democracy in the Middle East balance, but I guess reason and decency are unfamiliar words in your vernacular.
What’s most depressing about this whole thing is the way that “sides” have been taken, as black and white as Brexit and Covid and trans rights and everything else seems to be these days, and neither side can even begin to contemplate the other’s point of view. I hate it.
The masters of the universe won’t have it any other way. Divide and rule!
“Before his parliamentary career, Bristow had been the chairman of the lobbying trade body, the Association of Professional Political Consultants, between 2017 and 2019.[13] He was also the director of the healthcare public relations consultancy PB Consulting which he had founded in 2010.”
Does any MP every do something like a real job before becoming an MP?
Anyone who can run PR for our woeful NHS must have some transferable skills.
I am not aware of any useful or successful PR exercises run on behalf of rNHS.
The ability to stare rank incompetence and worse in the face whilst gaslighting the target audience that everything is brilliant would be a highly desirable trait in a politician I expect.
Well, not so much by the public, that is.
That’s odd. I thought the cabinet wanted a permanent war.
Depends if there’s financial interests in the MIC… As there usually is, certainly overseas in Congress.
How is it that congressmen have vested interests in the MIC while involved in geo political decision making….
Its beyond corrupt.. Sickens me to the core
Calling for a ceasefire without Palestine releasing the hostages and surrendering the terrorists to face war crimes charges first, is essentially condoning terrorism.
Andrew Bridgen had the Tory whip removed for less.
When will the same apply to the Israeli terrorist state and the thousands of hostages they have imprisoned….including numerous children?
It seems to me to be a problem that has only very bloody solutions. Peace is unlikely to ever be achieved in this region – the hatred is so deeply embedded in religion and culture. The only question for me is how to create a fragile peace agreement with the least loss of life. Hamas is widely supported by Palestinians, so removing Hamas will not be easy and will only be a short-term win. Hamas is unlikely to give up the hostages, and more likely to start killing them. That’ll probably happen quicker if there’s a ground offensive. So then what? You’ve now got dead hostages and many dead civilians in the campaign to eradicate Hamas. The attacks by Israel will fuel more hatred in the area, expanding the numbers within terror organisations. Then what? Kill more and more until the area is cleansed from Arabs? That’s barbaric of course, but wait… these Arabs want to eradicate Jews and the West in general, so if they’re allowed to grow in numbers then that threatens more non-Arabs. Makes my head spin.
It’s a total shitshow.
I’m just waiting for the public and the media to get bored of this war, which it inevitably will if it goes on for long enough.
I mean look at the Ukraine. Does anyone give two hoots about that anymore?
I wonder how many people who seem to have so much to say for or against Israel or the Palestinians have stopped to ask themselves why they care so much?
https://www.bitchute.com/video/Xx7HVWsqkaOw/
A Dutch footballer collapses mid -game.
Fortunately he seems to have recovered and is “doing well”.
I’m starting to see more people suffering from Ischemia from the “vaccines” they foolishly accepted.
I’m not entirely sure I have any sympathy..
Sounds very “safe and effective”.
What does he mean by a “permanent ceasefire”? Does he mean BOTH sides renouncing violent means of pursuing their aims? Doesn’t a “ceasefire” usually apply both sides in a conflict? From the words quoted here he doesn’t mean that at all. What he means is that Israel should stop using violence in pursuit of their aims, presumably “permanently”. I’m not sure this is a very realistic prospect, but I would like to see him explain how he sees the future of Israel.
Agree, it’s insane and not going to happen. Didn’t 1,400 Israelis get slaughtered during a ”ceasefire”. Or was it a faux ‘peace time’? Because you can never actually have proper *peace*, as we would understand it. Not when you’ve got a load of jihadis living next door that want you dead. They’re always just waiting for the next horrendous terrorist attack from their neighbours in Israel aren’t they? I don’t know why anyone would choose to live there to tell you the truth.
No that’s correct Mogs, you can never actually have proper peace while the IDF shoot your children dead at will..
Only the truly demented will soley focus on events that occurred on the 7th of October..
“Only the truly demented will soley focus on events that occurred on the 7th of October..”
Well maybe but one could say the same about solely focusing on the Israeli action following.
Umm it’s still going on….
Were you marching through London at the weekend celebrating the fact that 1,400 civilians had been butchered in cold blood?
It seems like you’ve got quite a lot in common with those sickos.
Can you not understand the difference between an unprovoked massacre and an attempt to destroy/severely weaken the force that carried it out?
Oh dear! You can’t provide an intelligent answer so you just start coming out with bollocks.
I’m probably more aware of what’s happened in the Middle East over the past 50 years than you are.
For example I know that Israel has never set out to deliberately kill civilians for no conceivable military or political gain.
I know that groups like Hamas and Hezbollah have sworn to eradicate the state of Israel.
I know that Israel is the only country in the region to have democracy, equal rights for women, acceptance of LGB people etc.
I don’t agree with everything Israel does e.g. allowing settlements on the West Bank, but how the hell does something other people have done a hundred or more miles away mean innocent civilians deserve to be massacred.
And no Israel aren’t killing Palestinian civilians for the sake of it, they’re trying to destroy an enemy that does what all cowards do and hides behind civilians.
Please tell me what the f**k you would want the government to do if you were an Israeli citizen, or how you would solve the problems in the region without giving Palestinians or other Jew hating Muslims free reign to kill children and old people at will, or simply ethnically cleanse Israel.
“I don’t know why anyone would choose to live there to tell you the truth.”
I don’t know either but I guess if you’re born and brought up somewhere and your family have roots there, you don’t feel you want to leave.
That statement from Mogs is wholly absurd..
Lack of understanding is putting it politely
There was a ceasefire dontchya know?
This came out of nowhere.
Oh and it took 7hours on the anniversary of the Yom Kippur war last time they were “surprised “
This time they came packing with supersonic handgliders.
From my research I find that the Mizrahi Jews ( Levant Jews) warned Britain of what would occur i.e setting Jew against Muslim, should they give way to the Zionist’s agenda to create the state of Israel. This was done from the time of the Balfour Declaration, and continually until the creation of the state of Israel.
One wonders if Britain knew this all along yet considered the creation of the state of Israel was just all part of the great game.
Lost his job today, according to GBN.
This is a very pertinent question actually. Many miles of tunnels in Gaza but they do not double up as shelters for the civilians during bombings. Their safety has nothing to do with Hamas. So that’s cleared that up then. ( 1min )
https://twitter.com/DrEliDavid/status/1718991624041082975
https://youtu.be/9cdrBV4uqSA?si=wzB3TKcx2e2ozh42
Why modern day terrorism was invented by Zionists
Theres more to this than the events of the 7th people…
“Are you comfortable with that?”
One of mu Uncles served in the British Mandate where he had to dodge the Zionist terrorists. Israel exists however and has as much right to continue existing as any other state. Most of its surrounding states are the same age because of the folly of the Young Turks.
Will you are really wrong about virtually everything you claim.
No bombing a Gaza with Hiroshima level ordinance is not going to end Hamas, going in with tanks and Bulldozers will not eliminate Hanas.
Now unless you believe that the Palestinians have Hamas because they hate Jews and not because of their treatment for a quarter century and beyond leaving no hope but sadistic carnage, well then it is you who is the anti-Semite, that’s right the Palestinians are semites, indeed more Semitic than the large proportion of colonisers that have stolen land continuously until a two state solution is all but impossible.
You seriously have no idea of what’s been going on in these lands (many apparently don’t, or they just hate the local semites). If you did, and you aren’t an anti semite you would realise that Israel is just as, indeed more responsible for Hamas, then the miserable people there.
This massacre, because that’s what it is, won’t end the Hamas issue, will aggregate everyone including the vast majority of the regional players, send us closer to yet another dangerous war and bring no peace.
Sympathy for Israel is waning fast. This is not their 9/11, it may end up being their Gulf of Tonkin, worse it could end Israel altogether. So if you support Israel, you should indeed be trying to calm them the f down and tell them to realistically address the Palestinian issue fairly not by ignoring it , stealing from them, and constantly harassing them.
In case you hadn’t realised, “from the river to the sea Palestine will be free” means the end of Israel as a nation.
Do you really think Hamas would let Jews live in a Palestinian state?
They have no interest in a 2 state solution, or any solution that doesn’t involve ethnically cleansing the Israeli population.
“From the River to the Sea” is a refrain originating in from the 1960s and refers to a demand for equality for all people in Palestine under a single state with one person one vote irrespective of religion.
I find it amazing that so many anti semites don’t know that. Guess which party refused that plan?
https://www.voice.wales/from-the-river-to-the-sea-the-true-history-of-a-famous-slogan-for-palestine/
But it suits these anti semites to feel threatened and wear a claim of victim hood. Kind of reminds me of Harry and Megan.
No body is buying it.
Hamas murdered 1,400 civilians in cold blood. Do you really think they’d live peacefully alongside Jews in a single state?
If Israel did actually reject a single state solution it was with good reason. They know that if all Palestinians had complete freedom of movement across what is currently Israel some of them would use it to carry on killing as many Jews as possible.
I’m assuming that you are aware that Israel has, by far, killed more Palestinians than the other way around over the years?
I’m assuming you know they kill and remove Palestinian’s from their own land, with the IDF looking on, and build illegal settlements?
…if someone chucked you out of your house would you go..oh that’s fine mate..did a magic book tell you this house was yours..well that’s all good then?
A magic book told Palestinians that the land was theirs.
If someone built houses on land that someone of the same ethnicity as me owned I wouldn’t go and kill random people of the same ethnicity as the people who built the houses.
I don’t support the building of settlements on the West Bank but nothing, let me repeat that NOTHING, justifies killing 1,400 people beheading babies, kidnapping at least 200 people etc.
Stop pretending you care..you don’t..if you care about human life, you care bout it all..you don’t justify 2000, then say the other 10000 don’t matter…
and you don’t repeat stories for which there isn’t one bit of evidence yet..that’s just propaganda, I’ll-informed nonsense as to try and back up an indefensible position….
Only in your warped and perverted moral universe could anything justify killing 1,400 innocent civilians. Why did Hamas attack a music festival and a kibbutz rather than the Israeli military, who have killed some Palestinians after being constantly pelted with stones, petrol bombs etc? I’ll tell you why, because they’re f**king cowards like all terrorists. Are these really the people you support, you pathetic excuse for a human being?
What possible history could justify killing innocent civilians who just want to live their lives in peace?
And your claim of 8,000 civilians killed in Gaza isn’t a delusion brought on by Hamas propaganda?
When heavily armed genocidal terrorists enter a music festival or peaceful kibbutz a lot of people die.
What do you want Israel to do, sit back and wait for the next atrocity?
How are Israel meant to destroy Hamas, a group that exists solely to destroy Israel?
Of course there’s civilian casualty, but they aren’t being killed simply because of their religion/ethnicity unlike the victims of October 7th.
Is the difference really that hard for someone of your limited intellect/sense of morality that hard to understand?
I’m not on Facebook.
Is there another place to see it?
Did you try the link? I’m not on FB either. Try clicking the “x” to close the login prompt if you haven’t tried that already.
Wow!
Thanks that did work and it was worth every minute.
New drones delivered just in time for war. As an Israeli company, potentially good for the local economy if they are proven in combat.
https://m.jpost.com/israel-news/defense-news/article-758594
https://www.defensenews.com/global/mideast-africa/2023/10/26/what-weapons-might-israeli-forces-use-for-a-ground-campaign-in-gaza/
No downvotes so far. Must be good news.
Perhaps Bristow wanted to be on the right side of history by calling for the end of Israeli genocide against the Palestinians where most of the 8,000+ deaths have been women and children?
The 1,400 Israeli deaths included many IDF, armed police and security guards as well as civilians.
ALL deaths are regrettable.
Unfortunately, many Israeli civilians were killed in the crossfire at the music festival, at the Kibbutz and elsewhere. Mainly due to the Israeli Hannibal Doctrine where they kill as many Hamas fighters as possible regardless of the welfare of any hostages or civilians. This included firing a tank round into a kibbutz house killing Hamas fighters AND hostages.
Official Israeli deaths information which has come through so far show there were very few child deaths.
Zionists run governments, the media and Hollywood and control the narrative. They will use any trick in the book, including the false story of 40 beheaded babies, to demonize Hamas.
Hostages who say that they were treated well by Hamas slipped through the net.
Hamas are just one element of the Axis of Resistance against the occupying army of Israel.
Palestinians in vast numbers support their liberation from the brutal apartheid Israel.
If Hamas were totally destroyed someone else would take their place.
Resistance fighters have always committed atrocities against their occupiers.
Norman Finkelstein reminds us of what Israeli apartheid means:
“What happened on October 7th was a slave revolt inside Israel (technically occupied Palestine).”
It is disconcerting that so called “sceptics” on The Daily Sceptic are siding with people like Tommy Robinson with their racist attitude to people with brown faces who are Muslims and believe everything they read in the Zionist run media.
What’s your solution, to allow Hamas to keep killing innocent civilians?
If Hamas are destroyed you’re right that someone else will take their place but that’s because some people will never accept Jews living in the area. By destroying or severely weakening Hamas Israel will make another massacre in the near future a lot less likely.
What are the Israeli’s meant to do, sit back and wait for the next terrorist attack?
Many of the 1,400 “innocent civilians” were IDF, many were also killed by friendly fire.
It has nothing to do with the fact that they are Jews. They are an occupying army who have been killing Palestinians for 75 years.
Palestinians have tried non-violent resistance in the past but were met with Israeli aggression killing hundreds which has bred a Palestinian resistance movement.
Israelis are an occupying force for which they can expect what ever “terrorist attack” it takes to remove them from Palestine.
There are only 3 possible endings to this:
1) The indigenous population is ethnically cleansed. Most of them end up in the West. That’s really not in British interests.
2) The invader population is ethnically cleansed. Most of them end up in Noo Joysey. That’s not in US interests but is better for Britain than the ethnic cleansing of the Palestinians
3) There is a single state with the right of return. That’s the most moral outcome. The racial supremacists clearly won’t like it.
Israel was founded 75 years ago. Very few Israelis alive today had anything to do with it’s founding. To ask them to leave the country they were born in because of a “wrong” their ancestors may of done in founding the state of Israel is like asking British people alive today to pay trillions of pounds in reparations for slavery carried out by our ancestors.
To try and link events in Israel/Gaza with the war in Ukraine shows just how deranged you are.
So explain to me how killing thousands of civilians is actually helping to find the hostages..and ‘dismantling’ Hammas?….other than gross scenes of butchery and the death of innocent people..are the hostages free, is Hammas dismantled…?
Four hostages have been freed up to now..and all four were freed after talks were held with Hammas…
Why should anyone have to explain stopping the absolute horror being visited on civilians?
You need to explain why it’s working, how it’s working, why it’s worth the lives of thousands..surely….? Not the other way around…
What are Israel’s ‘clear aims’ ..are they working?…
how many casualties do you think you can say “casualties are highly regrettable’ about? Ten thousand , twenty, two hundred and fifty….a million? Before you actually remember you are talking about human beings?
It’s actually sickening to have to listen to….
Why assume they are trying to slaughter civilians? Because that is exactly what they are doing, day after bloody day..and what the entire world is witnessing…they will continue while the West gives them the green light to do so….this Government doesn’t talk for me, or millions like me…
Those calling for a ceasefire want exactly that..an end to the senseless and indiscriminate killing…for humanitarian aid to be delivered…that’s all…don’t put words in our mouth or think you talk for us….you don’t….…
..as for Israel it can pursue Hammas forever for all I care..it just can’t kill two million people while it goes about it, and think the world will accept it…
Every shred of ‘moral high ground’ that Israel and its supporters think thy stand on is being buried under the ruble in Gaza, and you are too stupid and hubristic to even notice….
Great post.
Will should stick to other subjects where he excels like jab poison, he’s on really shaky ground here.
Im thinking Daily Skeptic sounds more and more like Daily Hasbara.
Israel is trying to destroy what is effectively an army, that butchered 1,400 civilians in cold blood, who are hiding in a heavily built up area. They aren’t deliberately killing civilians because of those people’s religion. They’re responding to a barbaric attack, if you were an Israeli citizen what would you want your government to do?
When was the last time Israel attacked anyone, except in response to attacks on Israel?
To try and claim some sort of moral equivalence between Israel and Hamas is simply deluded.
“Israel is trying to destroy what is effectively an army”
-To have an army requires a state…the root of this problem.
” that butchered 1,400 civilians in cold blood”
– Firstly ask yourself how they managed to get away with this? Then look into how many were killed by Israeli shells.
“who are hiding in a heavily built up area.”
-You mean that giant Ghetto/concentration camp that they have to live in with no freedom, rights or independence? Where do you expect them to go ffs?
“They aren’t deliberately killing civilians because of those people’s religion.”
-You’re right they are killing Christians too. Last week they destroyed the oldest church on Gaza with everyone in it. Are you happy about that or is that just collateral damage? Only Isreal defines itself by its religion, not the Palestinians, what does that say about it’s establishment?
” if you were an Israeli citizen what would you want your government to do?”
-This May surprise you but there are millions in Israel that don’t want to slaughter Palestinians and are demanding a cease fire. The biggest backers for genocidal acts outside settlers and likudniks are white Christians in the US waiting for the apocalypse. What’s your excuse?
“When was the last time Israel attacked anyone, except in response to attacks on Israel?”
-Here you really show your ignorance. Try every f’n day. Every day for the past 6 months Israeli settlers in the West Bank have been killing and brutalising Palestinians in the West Bank. Look it up. I’m done trying to teach you how ignorant you are.
Much like the Ukraine conflict don’t start on February 24th 2022, This conflict didn’t start on October 7th. (Oh and by the way, it hasn’t been going on for hundreds/ thousands of years either).
….hahaha..you must be having a laugh, right…I mean no one is that uninformed..are they?
Yes we all agree what happened on Oct 7th was terrible…but that doesn’t give Israel the right to commit the atrocities they are committing against the civilians in Gaza..it’s really that simple.
…answer me this..when the UK was subject to terrorist attacks from Sinn Fein ..do you remember the UK going medieval on their arse, and blowing civilian men women and children to bits …? Do you think anyone in the UK would have supported it?
In fact, other than Israel, who else does the Western World not only allow but support to subjugate millions of people..claim their land, and treat them like slaves? And then blame those very same people for every barbaric act they then commit on them?
Hear hear Matt.
I’d stop feeding the manic troll if I was you, because at least one person around here needs to increase their meds dosage. 
“The best way to respond to irrational and unreasonable people is with silence.”
A. Gucciardi
Manic troll huh.
I see.
Clap clap.
These are your heroes
https://youtu.be/ESqmADgbEJI?si=vfRcIbbApjgsYlS7
There’s the bombings they have carried out in Syria over many years. I don’t think they are all in response to attacks.
Stuxnet cyber attack on Iran (and subsequently everyone else).
Do all Israeli citizens support the actions of their government?
Edit: attacks on UK democracy.
Well it’s a ”No” from Netanyahu, obviously;
”Israel will not agree to a ceasefire as it would be equivalent to surrendering to Hamas and terrorism, Benjamin Nethanyu has said.
The Israeli prime minister said his country would not stop military activity “just as the United States would not agree to a ceasefire after the bombing of Pearl Harbor or the terrorist attack of 9/11”.
Mr Netanyahu gave a news conference this evening as Israel’s troops push deeper into Gaza, with the country’s chief military spokesperson warning operations in the territory will “escalate”.
The prime minister condemned the “barbarians” of Hamas for trying to destroy the “promise” of Israel’s future.
Mr Netanyahu also urged the world not to “surrender to tyranny and terror”.
“Israel did not start this war. Israel did not want this war. But Israel will win this war,” he added.”
https://news.sky.com/story/israel-will-not-agree-to-ceasefire-as-it-would-be-a-surrender-to-hamas-and-terrorism-pm-netanyahu-says-12996687
Yeah he’ll be on saying “Mission Accomplished “ once 40,000 kids are dead and half of Gaza is under an Israeli flag.
I admire your optimism.
The way he’s been given the green light by the West, mainly the USA of course, I’d be surprised if he stopped at half.
And as for 40,000 kids,well, that’s just collateral damage as far as too many believe. That said, Nethanyu sees the death of a child as one less terrorist for the future. I think it’s called murder on a grand scale/genocide.
The death of one man and all that.
Pearl Harbour, 9/11 (the new Pearl Harbour) and now another attack with similar narrative issues.
https://off-guardian.org/2023/10/30/why-are-the-globalists-calling-climate-change-a-public-health-crisis/
The brilliant Kit Knightly at Off-G discussing climate change – its a health issue
Ceasefire? You first, Hamas.
I think every sane person wants a ceasefire, but unfortunately not everyone is sane.
…keep up!
They’ve asked for discussions already in relation to releasing hostages…and said a part of that should be a temporary ceasefire ….
You can believe they won’t stick to it, but they have at least made the first move to ask for one, at least admit the truth of it…
The stare of Israel is certainly preferable to the terrorist controlled Gaza strip, however bombing that place out of existence won’t achieved anything. Both of those positions are tenable, fyi, ppl will get as bored of this war as the Ukrainian one.
Maybe Churchill should have opened a ‘humanitarian’ corridor to Berlin in 1944. Those poor Germans, none of whom had anything to do with Auschwitz? No doubt the BBC would be giving more prominence to Goebbels, even a weekly guest spot for Lord HawHaw whilst casting deep doubt on the eye witness accounts of the British armed forces.
So called Tory MPs would no doubt have applauded these actions.
Thank God for Churchill.
I’m sorry – what? How can he be sacked for expressing a perfectly reasonable viewpoint – whether or not you agree with it (and I can’t even begin to untangle this particular conflict, but does he really think Hamas will observe a ceasefire?), how can it be a sackable offence??
10 facts on Hamas in 90 seconds.
Please share.
https://youtu.be/IfFn_9XYz9M?si=Jtfy6HyEeI4t0F-W
Wasn’t there some saying about appeasers and crocodiles?
Permanent ceasefire. Go on then Paul Bristow you stop the Palestinians shooting at Israel and stop their Iranian supporters from funding and equipping them… permanently.