Does anyone still remember the days when COVID-19 vaccines were reputed to do what other vaccines do – namely, prevent people from getting infected – and hence we were all taught to speak of exceptional ‘breakthrough infections’ when the unexpected, nonetheless, came to pass?
Well, Germany’s ‘state virologist’ Christian Drosten apparently does not remember them either. Drosten is a member of the German Government’s ‘Corona Expert Council’ and is treated as the absolute authority in Germany for all things COVID-19-related. He also, purely coincidentally, developed the notoriously hyper-sensitive COVID-19 PCR testing protocol, which would go a long way to create the COVID-19 pandemic based on the innumerable ‘asymptomatic cases’ it would go on to detect.
Drosten has given a new interview to the German weekly paper Die Zeit on the solemn occasion of the awarding of this year’s Nobel Prize in Medicine to Drew Weissman and Katalin Kariko, two scientists who contributed to developing the mRNA technology underlying the most widely-used COVID-19 vaccines in the West. Drosten praises the decision to award the prize to the mRNA pioneers – “the technology has proven its significance thanks to the authorisation for COVID-19” – and goes on to note that “I’ve had three doses of the vaccine and been infected twice”.
Three doses and he still got infected twice? Well, why does he agree with the Nobel Committee awarding the prize to Weissman and Kariko then?
Drosten’s remark is apparently supposed to help explain why he will not be getting the new ‘variant-adapted’ COVID-19 jab this autumn or donning a facemask when out and about: since, namely, he already has adequate immunity to fend off the virus – not, it seems, thanks to his previous vaccine doses but due to having caught the bug despite them!
Further on in the interview, Drosten makes this assumption explicit. Thus, asked whether the public has to be concerned about new, more highly transmissible Covid variants, Drosten replies:
Two years ago, higher transmissibility due to new mutations always also meant that more people got seriously ill. Simply because immunity against serious outcomes was not yet complete. By now, the overwhelming majority have built up immune defences by way of infections which are directed against the whole virus, not only against the spike protein from the vaccine. Infections were required for this.
So, Drosten now speaks (and it is not the first time) as if the idea all along was for people to get the vaccine and the virus. He adds, however, that vaccination was still worthwhile, since, he claims, it reduced the severity of the illness when people got infected. Mind you, he has just said that “complete immunity” even against severe disease is only achieved via infection.
The somewhat bewildering position adopted by Drosten is, by the way and not surprisingly – he is not referred to as Germany’s ‘state virologist’ for nothing – also the official German Government position. The official recommendation of the Standing Committee on Vaccination (STIKO) of the German public health authority is that everyone over 18 years of age should have acquired a “basic immunity” by way of at least three “antigen contacts”, either in the form of vaccine doses or infections. The STIKO, however, insists that at least two of these “contacts” should have taken place by way of vaccination, thus suggesting that vaccine-induced immunity is somehow superior to natural immunity, whereas Drosten’s remarks clearly suggest the contrary.
In its latest recommendation on the new ‘variant-adapted’ jab, moreover, the STIKO notes that “the majority of the population has already been vaccinated multiple times and has acquired good basic immunity thanks to having had SARS-CoV-2 infections in addition”. This is why, incidentally, the STIKO only recommends the adapted jab for persons over 60 and members of other ostensibly high-risk groups, but not for anyone else. But the tenor is exactly the same as in Drosten’s remarks, as if getting vaccinated and then getting sick had been the plan all along.
Well, for Drosten’s and the STIKO’s benefit, the below comes directly from the European Medicines Agency summary document on what is by far the most-widely used COVID-19 vaccine in the EU: BioNTech’s mRNA-based ‘Comirnaty’.
Comirnaty was authorised to prevent COVID-19, not to prevent severe outcomes. If it does not prevent COVID-19, it failed.
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Cancer relapses post vaccination..
John Campbell interviews Professer..
https://youtu.be/PnJ5T1Enwq4?si=oEavJSv8DZTlitkE
Someone’s been a gullible fool and been fully vaccinated and can’t bear to hear it…
Dagleish is not holding back! “But this caused by the vaccine” says a patient, Jeez. What a world we live.
“Chris Whitty is toaly unfit for purpose. he should have been sacked.” not my words. Vitamin D levels are very important.
Drosten obviously subscribes to the idea that “when the facts change, I change my mind.”
Except the things he was pushing as FACTS turned out to be a load of hogwash – which many highly qualified people were saying 2 years ago but were ostracised and silenced for not complying with the narrative.
I got Covid in November 2019. I felt pretty rough for about 3 days, controlled with paracetemol, and a cough which lasted 3 weeks and was treated very effectively with whisky. I ignored the moronic “restrictions” as much as possible and refused the jabs since I don’t participate in medical experiments. I’ve never had Covid again.
I don’t understand why people take any notice whatsoever of the Public Health Bureaucrats, $cientists and Governments who got everything so catastrophically wrong.
And he’s the one that got his paper on the fraudulent and misused PCR test pushed through peer-review faster than the speed of science, remember. Something like 48hrs. The one tool that was integral to the entire scam. He’s an unscrupulous criminal.
“$cientists and Governments (who) got everything so catastrophically wrong.”
No they didn’t, they were carrying out orders and fulfilled those orders quite effectively.
HERE IS BLATANTLY FALSE AND DANGEROUS HEALTH INFORMATION FROM OUR ‘BELOVED’ NHS – I HAVE POSTED THE FULL TEXT HERE
EMAIL FROM
Dr Nikita Kanani MBE
GP and Deputy Lead, NHS Seasonal Vaccination Programmes, NHS England
Booking your seasonal vaccinations
Dear XXXXXXXXX
You are a priority for seasonal flu and COVID-19 vaccinations. This is because you are aged 65 or over (by 31 March 2024).
Having both vaccinations will reduce your risk of serious illness and help you recover more quickly if you catch flu or COVID-19.
…………..
Seasonal vaccinations have proven safety records. They give you better protection than any immunity gained from previous infections.
Flu and COVID-19 spread more easily in winter. Even if you’ve been vaccinated before, it’s important you get the protection you need because viruses change, and protection fades over time.
“Christian Drosten: “I’ve Had Three Doses of the Vaccine and Been Infected Twice”
What an absolute fu#@ing knobhead!
You got that Right 👍😉👏
Ha, you beat me to it. I was just about to say surely that qualifies him as a grade A moron!! LOL. But when these idiots are members of a cult and abandon all reason and logic, what exactly does anyone expect? I guess we once-persecuted and ‘othered’ unjabbed get to have the last laugh. Drosten is a f*cktard and a fraud, end of.
I couldn’t have put it more eloquently, Dings!
What an absolute fu#@ing knobhead!
Aka ‘The Science’….
virology – on a par with Climate Fascism as a ‘science’….
No doubt he will keep stabbinating when the next scamdemic shows up.
This is a common dissonance. An elderly friend of mine recently told me he was recovering from a nasty bout of Covid, then said ‘Still, at least I’ve had my booster,’
Snake oil salesman.
Sadly, sometimes the need for catharsis is greater than the need to be diplomatic and polite.
It looks like this is one of those times, or in less highbrow terms:
“What an absolute fu#@ing knobhead!“
Its ability to prevent serious outcomes and reduce hospitalisation appears to be part of the accepted wisdom, despite wisdom not being involved, let alone a factual (provable) basis.
The official NHS site still says it reduces the risk of transmission.
It would, wouldn’t it?
There has been a lot of blatant lying to promote the use of a group of products that appear to have been developed to protect the political skin of certain people. Part of the problem has been that of changing the definition of the term “vaccine”, without properly explaining it to the general public, and relying on the older common understanding of it’s functionality, such as to prevent infection by whatever.
If Drosten’s evidence is reasonably accurate, it looks as if it just did what it was expected to do (contrary to the claims made by the sales people), i.e. to mitigate the severity of infection when it occurs. Looking at an early NHS leaflet (March 21) promoting it’s use, it said in answer to the headline question : ”Can I give COVID-19 to anyone after I have had the vaccine?” that “…two doses will reduce your chance of becoming seriously ill. We do not yet know whether it will stop you from catching and passing on the virus.”
I suggest that now they know, 2 1/2 years on, but are not keen to advertise the truth, including the emerging evidence of various negative effect.
“group of products that appear to have been developed to protect the political skin of certain people”
Well I think they were developed for a few reasons- firstly it’s a great new business model for Pharma. You pretend to be able to develop new “vaccines” very quickly to deal with “novel viruses” and you bypass those annoying long safety trials because well it’s just a tweaked formula based on the safe and effective “Covid vaccine” which billions have had so it must be safe and effective. The benefit of illusory “pandemics” extends to the “public health” and “bio security” industries and further to the whole medical industrial complex. Beyond that, fake pandemics are handy for politicians to keep them and the state as important as possible. I think it’s far far worse than protecting political skins.
And the “vaccines” are most likely killing people, something that TPTB are well aware of and apparently quite happy with.
Yes, the ‘endless…hobgoblins’ of the famous Mencken quote are now in constant supply, with state and MSM in lockstep to promote them (google Mencken/hobgoblin if you don’t know the quote).
Not only those factors, but if they had not been classified as “vaccines” they would have been stuck in the process to develop other brand new drugs, which might not have been profitable.
Indeed
The wonderful thing about fake pandemics is that you can pretend it’s an emergency
Liars, thieves and con artists.
The Nobel prize was awarded to establishment corporate thieves who have stolen the methods and analysis of Robert Malone and profited from the lies.
Jimmy Dorr did a great piece on this:
https://youtu.be/aujaprN7Nzw?si=cJrvrqG4ZmX8iUth
These dipsticks who supposedly “invented” mRNA technology received their Nobel prize in paper masks.
HERE IS BLATANTLY FALSE AND DANGEROUS HEALTH INFORMATION FROM OUR ‘BELOVED’ NHS – I HAVE POSTED THE FULL TEXT HERE
EMAIL FROM
Dr Nikita Kanani MBE
GP and Deputy Lead, NHS Seasonal Vaccination Programmes, NHS England
Booking your seasonal vaccinations
Dear XXXXXXXXX
You are a priority for seasonal flu and COVID-19 vaccinations. This is because you are aged 65 or over (by 31 March 2024).
Having both vaccinations will reduce your risk of serious illness and help you recover more quickly if you catch flu or COVID-19.
…………..
Seasonal vaccinations have proven safety records. They give you better protection than any immunity gained from previous infections.
Flu and COVID-19 spread more easily in winter. Even if you’ve been vaccinated before, it’s important you get the protection you need because viruses change, and protection fades over time.
I am a bit perplexed. If Drosten is one of those behind this pandemic hoax and toxic jab promotion, then would he have taken a ‘loaded’ jab?
That leaves us in a quandary. Either he is lying about the PCR test and is part of the hoax, or he is lying about taking jabs and/or getting covid. It would appear to be irreconcilable to hold both positions.
Being acutely aware of the possibility of psyops, what is going on here?
Maybe he knew which were the placebo batches
It’s not perplexing if you don’t believe it was all a pre-planned hoax involving thousands of very clever people in many different countries around the world all conspiring together to pretend and convince the public there was a virus causing people to be ill.
The much simpler explanation is that there was a virus, probably from the Wuhan lab, which made many people ill, and then unscrupulous opportunists took advantage of the situation to make a lot of money out of it, by exaggerating the extent of it, encouraging the public to over-react, making people far more afraid of it than necessary, which enabled a huge transfer of wealth to the already super-rich, and then more unscrupulous people saw that it was in their selfish interests to hype up the “effectiveness” of the vaccines, risk playing down the safety concerns, and make more money.
To suggest they planned it all from before the start, would suggest they are much more intelligent and competent than I’m willing to believe.
He used a fake test on a cold and got a positive result?
Fake tests pick up nothing and everything – he is just another idiot true believer, nothing to be perplexed about
The three responses here are all challenged as follows. Why would a perpetrator like Drosten announce that he had covid twice after three jabs? That question applies whether or not it was a placebo and it is a question that a narrative-follower might ask.
The following discussion took place in May 2022 between Freddie Sayers and Danish Professor Christine Stabell-Benn. She discusses her study of vaccines in general and particularly whether vaccines contained live viruses or dead viruses. That is interesting in itself, but she then goes on to talk about mRNA type vaccines.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o_nKoybyMGg
Danish professor: mRNA vaccine study sends ‘danger signals’
Interestingly I remain unjabbed, and don’t seem to have been ill.
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EMAIL FROM
Dr Nikita Kanani MBE
GP and Deputy Lead
NHS Seasonal Vaccination Programmes
NHS England
Booking your seasonal vaccinations
Dear XXXXXXXXX
You are a priority for seasonal flu and COVID-19 vaccinations. This is because you are aged 65 or over (by 31 March 2024).
Having both vaccinations will reduce your risk of serious illness and help you recover more quickly if you catch flu or COVID-19.
You can book using any of the options below unless you have already had or booked your vaccinations.
How to get your COVID-19 vaccination
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More information
Seasonal vaccinations have proven safety records. They give you better protection than any immunity gained from previous infections.
Flu and COVID-19 spread more easily in winter. Even if you’ve been vaccinated before, it’s important you get the protection you need because viruses change, and protection fades over time.
Go to [NHS WEBLINK] for invitations in easy read and other languages and formats.
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Kind regards,
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NHS Seasonal Vaccination Programmes
NHS England
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The man is a professional fraud.