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Is it Time We Accepted This Government Cannot Stop the Boats?

by Will Jones
7 August 2023 6:30 PM

With the news that the Government is set to impose ruinous fines on employers and landlords who inadvertently take on an illegal immigrant, Ross Clark in the Telegraph says it’s time to accept that this Government simply cannot stop the boats. Here’s an excerpt.

Sure, employing people whom you know are in the country illegally is an offence and those committing it deserve to be penalised, but a £45,000 fine for employing a worker who fibbed about their migration status, or a £10,000 fine for a landlord who failed to spot that a student to whom they let a property has since overstayed their visa seems high. True, there are businesses which deliberately break the rules, but it is also rather easy to get caught out. How many people have ever employed a cleaner without formally checking their migration status?  

That Jenrick is lashing out at businesses and landlords is a symptom of impotence: the Government has failed miserably to tackle illegal migration and is trying to pass the buck. You would think, however, that ministers might be a little more sympathetic to businesses who fall foul of the rules given that the very Home Office building in which Jenrick and his staff sit was once caught out for employing illegal migrants. In 2006, five Nigerian cleaners were arrested while working there. …

If we are going to impose eye watering fines on businesses and landlords at a time when the economy is stuttering, perhaps the Government should also explore possible consequences for its own failures. It was reported today that ministers are contemplating housing migrants on Ascension Island if the Rwanda plan fails, an idea which has already been floated once before and now awaits Supreme Court judgment. It looks even less likely to get off the ground than a flight to Kigali. Perhaps ministers know this; after all, why bother pushing through unpopular measures that might deter the illegal trafficking trade when the state can just clobber entrepreneurs and landlords? 

Perhaps it’s time we realised that, despite many creative plans, photo ops at Dover and tough rhetoric, this Government simply cannot stop the boats.

Worth reading in full.

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godknowsimgood
godknowsimgood
2 years ago

Where there’s a will, there’s a way.

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RW
RW
2 years ago
Reply to  godknowsimgood

As with all governments in need of periodic acclamation from a politically largely muzzled populace, there’s only ever a will to generate the right kind of headlines.

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Steve-Devon
Steve-Devon
2 years ago

I have been shocked at the role of the RNLI in this boat migrant mess. Are the Government funding the RNLI to collect these boat migrants and ferry them to the UK? Certainly having watched the RNLI conduct a virtual taxi service for illegal migrants I have not made a donation to the RNLI.
The asylum laws, rules and agreements seem to have been drawn up for different times and for different circumstances. Can we stop these boat migrants, yes of course we can but we would have to revoke many agreements and treaties. If we did this we could tow these boats back to French waters and let the French authorities deal with it. If we did decide to deal with these illegal boat movements? we would have to put up with howls of rage and indignation from many lobbies and I do not think anyone in UK politics has the will and desire to do this.

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Nearhorburian
Nearhorburian
2 years ago
Reply to  Steve-Devon

The RNLI crewmen are traitors.

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DevonBlueBoy
DevonBlueBoy
2 years ago
Reply to  Nearhorburian

And you are an ignorant blow hard for making such a comment. Take yourself down to your nearest RNLI station and be educated by the volunteers there as to what they do and why they do it. You might learn enough to apologise for your crass comment.

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DevonBlueBoy
DevonBlueBoy
2 years ago
Reply to  Steve-Devon

The RNLI have a very clear mission – “To save lives at sea”. This is not limited to WASP yachties and fishermen. Not donating to the RNLI because they are doing what they say they will do is pathetic.

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RTSC
RTSC
2 years ago
Reply to  DevonBlueBoy

It’s now my policy. They no longer get a penny from me.

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DevonBlueBoy
DevonBlueBoy
2 years ago
Reply to  RTSC

Have you heard of the old aphorism about keeping quiet and letting people think you are stupid rather than opening your mouth and proving the point?
And no doubt you’ll be pleased to hear that since all the mis-directed anger against the RNLI was first created, donations have increased. So there are some people who still believe in altruism and thinking that keeping promises is a good thing.

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ebygum
ebygum
2 years ago
Reply to  DevonBlueBoy

I would say there is a big difference between supporting a local crew, and what is happening nationally. If you are supporter of your local lifeboat and your donation stays local, then all well and good, but I don’t think the vast majority of people want their donations to go towards a Government Policy that is causing a great deal of harm, not only to the indigenous population, but also to the illegal immigrants they are helping to ferry in.

Instead of asking other people to go to the local RNLI, how about you go to Rotherham, where I have family, or any of the other poor northern towns, who are suffering a great deal of hardship because of these Government actions?
See your ‘altruism’ in action?
Having uncontrolled borders has nothing to do with kindness or altruism..it’s patently bad for everyone for a myriad of reasons….

This has done the RNLI irreparable harm in my opinion…and I live near a Coastal town…so I know the good that they can do…

I don’t for one minute think the Government can’t do anything about it..they want it to happen….clearly.
The Government believe that using the RNLI gives the operation a ‘caring veneer’ but it is a blatant and egregious Psy-op….and it’s obviously working on some people….

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Alan
Alan
2 years ago
Reply to  Steve-Devon

Perhaps it is the RNLI we need to send over to France so that they can ensure they stop the boats before they put themselves in more danger with the crossing.

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transmissionofflame
transmissionofflame
2 years ago

I believe Israel built a border wall which has been quite successful.

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DickieA
DickieA
2 years ago

“Is it Time We Accepted This Government Cannot Stop the Boats”?
The answer to this is a resounding “no”; however, if the question was: “Is it Time We Accepted That This Government Will Not Stop the Boats?” The answer has to be “Yes”.
If Churchill’s government faced this issue – the boats would have stopped within 24 hours. Occam’s razor says that the reason why the nonsense continues is because the government doesn’t want the issue resolved.

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huxleypiggles
huxleypiggles
2 years ago

“Is it Time We Accepted This Government Cannot Stop the Boats?”

Is it Time We Accepted This Government does not want to Stop the Boats?
That’s better.

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DickieA
DickieA
2 years ago
Reply to  huxleypiggles

Snap!

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Nearhorburian
Nearhorburian
2 years ago
Reply to  huxleypiggles

It’s worse than that: they want the boats.

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huxleypiggles
huxleypiggles
2 years ago
Reply to  Nearhorburian

Well I have been saying for months that we are importing an immigrant army.

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BurlingtonBertie
BurlingtonBertie
2 years ago

What a shame…. Not!
Hancock has failed to get an apology from a newspaper for calling him “corrupt” & “failed health secretary”.

https://www.standard.co.uk/news/politics/matt-hancock-ipso-sunday-mirror-covid-ppe-b1097425.html

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DevonBlueBoy
DevonBlueBoy
2 years ago
Reply to  BurlingtonBertie

👍👏👏👏

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Nearhorburian
Nearhorburian
2 years ago

It’s really, really easy: if they speak fluent English with a British accent the probability that they are an illegal immigrant is very close to zero.

Last edited 2 years ago by Nearhorburian
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Nearhorburian
Nearhorburian
2 years ago

What happens to the boats bringing these barbarian invaders here?

I’d bet big money that, rather than being impounded or destroyed, they’re allowed to return to France to make as many trips as they can.

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Jon Smith
Jon Smith
2 years ago

What on earth makes you think the Government is in control..
Its called the Kalergi Plan.

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Mogwai
Mogwai
2 years ago

This 3min clip is an eye-opener regarding the sort of accommodation these migrants are living in compared with mold-ridden dumps that British citizens waiting forever on housing lists have to put up with, even if they have kids! I know they’ve started boarding this barge at Portland today but I’m disgusted that the government can’t just put them all on this Ascension Island. It certainly would act as a deterrent I think, which is a bonus.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c37E0TCj7Mk&ab_channel=GBNews

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Nearhorburian
Nearhorburian
2 years ago

The RNLI co-operates with the barbarian invasion, I mean rescues the poor refugees who put themselves in mortal peril despite being safe in France after abandoning their grandparents, parents and sisters to the appalling oppression they’re fleeing.

But they presumably are in mortal peril once they’re beyond wading depth.

Yet, strangely, there seems to be no obligation on the French authorities to quickly save them and return them to the nearest dry land a few yards away.

Is the UK signed-up to any treaties that France isn’t?

Or does the problem lie with our politicians and, in particular, our judges?

Last edited 2 years ago by Nearhorburian
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Matt Dalby
Matt Dalby
2 years ago

I’m not sure if most of the blame for sky high levels of illegal immigration lies with the government.
Activist charities and lawyers have a lot to answer for. If it wasn’t for them flights to Rwanda would’ve started months ago. They’re now encouraging migrants not to board the barge and seem to be encouraging them to take legal action e.g. by claiming to have a morbid fear of water. There’s a massive backlog in asylum claims being processed and people being deported, no doubt partly caused by migrants being encouraged to launch endless appeals and having them funded which will tie up civil servants and government lawyers for weeks or months on each case.
No doubt activist civil servants are doing everything they can to block or slow down deportations and the implementation of new rules.
A lot of the blame has to lie with the French government for not preventing migrants from boarding boats in the first place. If they really wanted to they could deploy a few thousand soldiers on the beaches to detect and destroy all the boats. Obviously they’re quite happy to see the migrants move on to another country where they’re no longer a problem for France.

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DevonBlueBoy
DevonBlueBoy
2 years ago
Reply to  Matt Dalby

And the lawyers are now saying their poor clients can’t go on the floating barge as they’re scared of water. WTF

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RW
RW
2 years ago

Once again, the wonderful Tory government, instead of doing something against illegal immigration, decides to be a lot nastier to legally resident foreigners. It ain’t going to work this way, kids. You must come after the people breaking the laws, not make those who didn’t and wouldn’t jump through hoop after hoop because they’re required to prove that they’re really legally resident whenever they want to buy more than one cheeseburger.

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JohnnyDollar
JohnnyDollar
2 years ago

One has to be brain dead to think that the government can’t stop the boats!! They managed very well to lock people inside their homes , stopped people from sitting on park benches during lockdowns , arrested isolated individuals in the country side for walking , have a military , a navy but can’t stop a few boats crossing the channel ? The channels isn’t a two meter river !! It’s a channel ! The have satellite information ! These folks get on a boat at a port & no one sees them ?? No darling . They WANT to bring these young men in . Cheap labour , racketeering , eventual cheap votes , zero loyalty to the British so they can be used , destruction of infrastructure & the rest . And then think that given the chance , these boat cold won’t turn on them ?? At your peril

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RW
RW
2 years ago
Reply to  JohnnyDollar

Insofar stopping channel crossings in boats which are even smaller than fishing boats, they probably actually cannot. Even assuming the general location of such a boats was known due to satellite imagery (and it certainly isn’t), no one would be able to find it except by chance on a calm and sunny day. The channel covers an area of 29,000 square miles (that’s more than nine times the size of the London Metropolitan Area) and each spot of it that’s not close to the shore looks exactly like all other spots. There’s also a lot of ship and boat traffic on it and that some boat is to be used to landing people illegally isn’t really known until this has happened.

They’d need to do something entirely different like Don’t process any asylum claims of people who arrived in Britain before making them. Just collect them and ship them out, preferably after a few days, and with absolutely no process to stop or slow that. Also, make it a criminal offence to support illegal immigration in any way. As it stands, foreigners who are legally resident in the UK have to prove this over and over again. But those who are brazenly not have free access to lawyers and the court system to prolong their stay. Why is this so?

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RTSC
RTSC
2 years ago

Not can’t. Won’t.

As most of the below the line commentators recognise.

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John Drewry
John Drewry
2 years ago

‘Stop the boats’ is disingenuous and incorrect as a strategy in the first place. For a short while it served as a ‘campaign headline’ before passing its sell-by date. ‘Discourage the boats’ would have more wellie, and there are a couple of simple steps to do this:

1 Stop patrolling the seas looking for boats and then being obliged to rescue them. Let them reach our shores via their own volition.

2 Anybody arriving on our shores who has no papers, passports or ID of any kind must surely be regarded as a hostile invader until we know who they are and where they’re from. That would be a government performing its first duty, which is to protect its citizens. They should therefore be taken straight to prison, i.e. cells with locked doors, where they are formally processed. Barges are all very well, provided they are internally reconstructed as prison barges.

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DevonBlueBoy
DevonBlueBoy
2 years ago

The only way you will stop the migrants’ craft crossing the Channel is to have constant (365/24) patrols along every single kilometre of the French coast in sufficient force to stop them leaving the beach. And anyone who thinks the French have the motivation, desire (post Brexit) and resources to do that probably believes that carbon dioxide emissions are raising global temperatures, there was a Rona pandemic and Father Christmas lives in Lapland.
And having a pop at the RNLI just doubles down on their ignorance.

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DevonBlueBoy
DevonBlueBoy
2 years ago
Reply to  DevonBlueBoy

Rather than choosing an easy, but wrong, target like the RNLI why not have a go at the French government or the lawyers group Care4Calais? Oh, but of course, that’s too difficult for keyboard warriors.

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NeilofWatford
NeilofWatford
2 years ago

Definitely not.
The government can stop boats in any of a hundred ways. It just doesn’t want to, despite Sunak’s verbal smokescreen.
Globalists want open borders, cheap labour to reduce inflation and fatten corporate profits. They want to destroy British culture, break the spirit of the middle classes and punish brexiteers.
Braverwoman is sincere, but surrounded by traitors who hate everything Britain stood for.
Solution: don’t vote Unaparty. Local anti illegal immigration activism. Expose Sunak’s duplicity.

Last edited 2 years ago by NeilofWatford
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varmint
varmint
2 years ago

Illegal Aliens (Migrants to the MSM) are materializing out of thin air in every corner of the country. Yesterday in every town and City town there were none but today there will be five and tomorrow ten. ——It is like they were beamed here by Scotty in Star Trek. ————I believe that the political class and that includes 90% of tories actually want mass immigration to have sufficient working age people to pay for tomorrows pensions, and they simply pretend to have aspirations of controlling borders. This dispersal of economic migrants (vulnerable people to leftists) will continue till there is no room to swing a cat in this country. ————PS Not my cat ofcourse. Someone else’s cat. But to Liberal Progressive their absurd policies are always someone else’s problem.

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Espedair
Espedair
2 years ago

I live in the Glasgow area in a postindustrial town. I have noticed, as I’m certain many other residents have, that a large number of African residents has appeared over the past few years. I suspect these are largely migrants settled here by the Home Office because this part of the country is not normally associated with the African diaspora in the U.K. I hasten to add that these newcomers are causing no trouble that I can see and that they are not the subject of overt racist abuse by the existing population. I acknowledge that the new businesses catering to them are occupying some previously empty shops but I can understand people’s concern about why they are here, why this area was selected and what resources (particularly housing and healthcare) they are using in an area that is still home to widespread socioeconomic deprivation amongst the existing citizenry. These are legitimate questions and concerns.

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adamcollyer
adamcollyer
2 years ago

“Cannot stop the boats”, or doesn’t want to stop the boats?

I believe the government couldn’t care less about the boats – they are aware that this illegal immigration is only a tenth of the total. (90% is legal immigration expressly allowed by the government.)

To the government, this is an electoral opportunity – to be seen to be at least trying to protect our borders. They only see it in electoral terms.

Conservative and Labour both favour mass immigration.

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Worcester1
Worcester1
2 years ago

We MUST stop the boats. There is no alternative. it must be tied in with destroying the catastrophic Leftist stranglehold on our Educational, Cultural and Governmental systems

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blunt instrument
blunt instrument
2 years ago

The only things that governments rightly exist for, are now the only things that they don’t do.

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