In this week’s episode of London Calling, James Delingpole tells me about the speed awareness course he’s just been on, which prompts a discussion about whether there’s a global conspiracy against motorists; we then segue into discussing Tucker Carlson’s move to Twitter and whether he’s right that the reason Trump has been indicted and may yet end up in prison is because he dared to criticise the military-industrial complex in an interview in 2016; that then descends into a heated exchange about whether the Russians or the Ukrainians blew up the Kakhovka Dam (I think it’s the Russians, obviously); whether I’m just pretending to support Ukraine in order to preserve my place as a pundit in the mainstream media, or whether James is pretending to embrace a whole raft of conspiracy theories because he’s become financially dependent on donations from conspiracy theorists; and I try to get James to explain why he hasn’t just embraced just one conspiracy theory, but seemingly every single one, including that JFK was assassinated by the CIA, that the moon landings were faked, that Paul McCartney died in 1966 and was replaced by a doppelganger, that dinosaurs are a hoax, that the Lost City of Atlantic really did exist, that 9/11 was an inside job, that the contrails left by passenger jets are in fact chemicals designed to poison us, that the 2020 Presidential election was stolen from Donald Trump (even though he thinks Trump may be ‘the Anti-Christ’) and, of course, that the pandemic was planned by a cabal of evil billionaires so they could then get hundreds of millions of people to take the ‘death jabs’ as part of their diabolical plan to depopulate the earth – although why they would want to do that, exactly, James will not explain and gets angry if you ask him, claiming ‘motive’ is irrelevant. In other words, it’s an argument about everything. Then, in Culture Corner, we discuss Tour de France: Unchained, The Tulsa King, Star Trek: Strange New Worlds and The Covenant, which I liked, and Extraction 2, which I also liked. I also tell James about my great discovery, a website called worthitorwoke.com. Check it out.
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If presenting a motive is a requirement for a conspiracy theory, as Toby suggests, then the official 9/11 story has serious problems.
What was Bin Laden’s motivation for the plot? Hatred of America?
What was the motivation of all those alleged Saudi hijackers? 40 virgins in Muslim heaven?
I for one can’t see any logical motivation behind the official explanation.
One theory is that 9/11 was the excuse to launch the ‘war on terror’ as a cover for the laundering of taxes upwards via perpetual war, destabilise countries which refused to cede to supranational governance bodies, gain control of energy resources & enable via a raft of law changes (see Balliwick News, Katherine Watt for this evidence) to enable this current fraud to play out. The evil cabal have been playing a very long game. A full blown invasion of Iraq happened just a few weeks after the event. To coordinate a full scale military intervention would require many months not a few weeks of planning, logistics & transportation, mobilisation of the troops & weaponry.
War is profitable & enables child, organ & human trafficking – the current one in Europe is a case in point irrespective of which side or none you support – the chaos of war provides excellent cover for these nefarious trades.
Yes but that’s not the official conspiracy theory. That’s an alternative one.
The official conspiracy theory is that Bin Laden, from Afghanistan organised the recruitment, training and subsequent deployment of four Saudi suicide squads.
The motivation was never really fully explained, something that Toby apparently considers essential to making a conspiracy theory credible.
I like you both and I like the ding-dong. Toby is woefully lacking perspective on Trump and James is indeed bananas on dinosaurs etc, but bananas like a fox perhaps. Toby may be onto something that James now has a financial incentive to be an outlier among outliers.
James is consistently weak on factual disposition of his conspiracy arguments.
Toby refuses to read anything that questions the mainstream narrative.
No deep meaningful debate happens.
Both look increasingly foolish and illogical.
Never the twain shall meet?
Perhaps a ‘book club’ as James rightly suggests?
Forget kultcha korner, it’s a conspiracy knockout instead would be far more important. Does anyone listen to culture corner?
Anyhoo…
In this episode Toby accuses James of being an anti Semite (believing in the Protocols of Zion) and being a capitalist conspiracy theorist (sponsored by them and charging £65 for a selfie).
Toby forgets his past deep questionings on how James goes about selling out live events so Toby too can cash in on ‘selling out’.
Spoiler alert, he didn’t sell out The Emmanuel Centre but James did.
Toby’s tickets included a selfie, well the deluxe ones costing £45, if memory serves. All advertised on this here podcast.
it’s all a cock up with obviously nothing to hide because it’s all a completely above board democratic society we live in, which nicely segues into them both selling VPN, which stops erm, no one snooping on anyone because that would mean err a conspiracy to… quick, think fast…money, yes, it’s all about money…
Yup. If you want to comment here that will be a minimum of £5.
I suppose that’s the price of free speach, huh Tobes.
(Team Icke.)
Very good comment.
You positively drip with irony.
The dinosaur thing is really annoying to me. He gets most other things right. It’s something I’ve had brief words with him about personally.
But God love him.
Too kind. I really appreciate your positive words. The highly eloquent and learned people’s commentary on this site is excellent. So I thought I’d chip in to balance things out.
Wasn’t the most revered Rabbi and mystic scholar and societal rebel ever to teach, Yeshua Hamashiach, Jesus Christ? Aren’t all Christians the biggest supporter’s of Judaism and therefore calling them anti Semitic a touch patronising?
Dinosaurs. Still personally in the midst of cognitive dissonance so I can’t really say but here’s someone who can
Crrow777Radio.com | 055 Dinosaurs Were Invented by a Servant of Royalty – https://www.podbean.com/ea/dir-r8pf8-44b8e27
Quote;
“Dinosaurs were invented out of thin air in or around 1842 by a knight in the royal society and he was also the Superintendent of the British Museum Natural History. If you accept that dinosaurs are real because you have been told this your whole life it is time you challenged this nonsense. After all we were told dinosaurs filled our gas tanks (fossil fuel) – but now they are basically chickens. Just more nonsense from those who seek to alchemically transmute the world mind into a fantasy based reality.”
Well, that was all rather pro religion.
I will have to go recite the sacred texts of Icke to purge my lack of discernment……..
“We laugh at sheep because sheep just follow the one in front. We humans have out-sheeped the sheep, because at least the sheep need a sheep dog to keep them in line. Humans keep each other in line. And they do it by ridiculing or condemning anyone who commits the crime, and that’s what it’s become, of being different.”
(Team Icke)
I’ve studied geology and palaeontology (including looking at fossils in situ) and understand depositional processes enough to be pretty convinced that there were creatures of various shapes and genera that have some pretty ancient associations in time, to believe that they existed.
There may have been hoaxers and cranks, but the weight of evidence readily available and it’s ubiquity is overwhelming.
i don’t believe this contradicts Christianity either btw.
Where to see dinosaur footsteps and hunt for fossils in the UK
https://www.nationalgeographic.co.uk/travel/2020/12/where-to-see-dinosaur-footsteps-and-hunt-for-fossils-in-the-uk
http://scihi.org/william-buckland-dinosaurs/
Yes, as I say, I’m sceptical.
I see the interest in the debate is around the existence of dinosaurs, not fossils. Not deposition or the timeline thereof…
It’s just dinosaurs.Not fossils. For me, so far and I haven’t dived very deeply. But, it’s the arguement that their timely and convenient ‘finding’ to plug a gap in Darwinian theory, that I find interesting.
Also how the context of the time influences people?
Bucklands…
“Reconstructing the Megalosaurus was difficult, since no scientist ever pictured a creature of this kind.”
This isn’t scientific method. Its the opposite thereof (?)
But similar fragments were found previously and deemed in a different context.
“In 1676, several pieces were already sent to Robert Plot, back then also professor at the University of Oxford. But even though he correctly identified the bones as the lower extremity of a rather large animal, he incorrectly assumed them to be part of a giant human as mentioned in the Bible.’
So, it’s a giant human or a big reptile. I can hear James getting rather batey. Let’s split the difference and say they were giant reptilian humans.
The debate is also around the character and motive of the select individuals who find these large dinosaurs. (Fellows Of The Royal Society). As the attached piece on William Buckland highlights and the piece is not a hit job, quite the opposite.
1820 Vindiciæ Geologiæ; Connexion of Geology with Religion, Buckland explained, both justifying the new science of geology and reconciling geological evidence with the biblical accounts of creation and Noah’s Flood. At a time when others were coming under the opposing influence of James Hutton‘s theory of uniformitarianism(in contrast to catastrophism), Buckland developed a new hypothesis that the word “beginning” in Genesis meant an undefined period between the origin of the earth and the creation of its current inhabitants, during which a long series of extinctions his catastrophism theory incorporated a version of Old Earth creationism or Gap creationism. Buckland believed in a global deluge during the time of Noah but was not a supporter of flood geology as he believed that only a small amount of the strata could have been formed in the single year occupied by the deluge.”
Now the scientific theory is of extinctionism via catastrophism. The culprit being a very large stone thrown from god’s hand from heaven, sWhere to see dinosaur footsteps and hunt for fossils in the UK
https://www.nationalgeographic.co.uk/travel/2020/12/where-to-see-dinosaur-footsteps-and-hunt-for-fossils-in-the-uk
http://scihi.org/william-buckland-dinosaurs/
Yes, as I say, I’m sceptical.
I see the interest in the debate is around the existence of dinosaurs, not fossils. Not deposition or the timeline thereof…
It’s just dinosaurs.
Not fossils. For me, so far and I haven’t dived very deeply. But, it’s the arguement that their timely and convenient ‘finding’ to plug a gap in Darwinian theory, that I find interesting.
Also how the context of the time influences people?
“Reconstructing the Megalosaurus was difficult, since no scientist ever pictured a creature of this kind.”
This isn’t scientific method. Its the opposite thereof (?)
But similar fragments were found previously and deemed in a different context.
“In 1676, several pieces were already sent to Robert Plot, back then also professor at the University of Oxford. But even though he correctly identified the bones as the lower extremity of a rather large animal, he incorrectly assumed them to be part of a giant human as mentioned in the Bible.’
So, it’s a giant human or a big reptile. I can hear James getting rather batey. Let’s split the difference and say they were giant reptilian humans.
The debate is also around the character and motive of the select individuals who find these large dinosaurs. (Fellows Of The Royal Society). As the attached piece on William Buckland highlights and the piece is not a hit job, quite the opposite.
1820 Vindiciæ Geologiæ; Connexion of Geology with Religion, Buckland explained, both justifying the new science of geology and reconciling geological evidence with the biblical accounts of creation and Noah’s Flood. At a time when others were coming under the opposing influence of James Hutton‘s theory of uniformitarianism(in contrast to catastrophism), Buckland developed a new hypothesis that the word “beginning” in Genesis meant an undefined period between the origin of the earth and the creation of its current inhabitants, during which a long series of extinctions his catastrophism theory incorporated a version of Old Earth creationism or Gap creationism. Buckland believed in a global deluge during the time of Noah but was not a supporter of flood geology as he believed that only a small amount of the strata could have been formed in the single year occupied by the deluge.”
But now, the scientific theory is of extinctionism via catastrophism.
The culprit being a very large stone thrown from god’s hand from heaven, sorry, a meteorite hitting earth.
Sorry, a meteorite hitting earth.
I’m just pointing out a few select points of interest.
But as (Team Icke) I would push the idea that large humanoid reptilians roamed the earth.
Well, that all got garbled, here’s what should have posted….
Where to see dinosaur footsteps and hunt for fossils in the UK
https://www.nationalgeographic.co.uk/travel/2020/12/where-to-see-dinosaur-footsteps-and-hunt-for-fossils-in-the-uk
http://scihi.org/william-buckland-dinosaurs/
Yes, as I say, I’m sceptical.
I see the interest in the debate is around the existence of dinosaurs, not fossils. Not deposition or the timeline thereof…
It’s just dinosaurs.
Not fossils. For me, so far and I haven’t dived very deeply. But, it’s the arguement that their timely and convenient ‘finding’ to plug a gap in Darwinian theory, that I find interesting. Not many plebs (none?) Have found many T-Rex skulls popping out of our Jurassic coastline.
Also how the context of the time influences people?
“Reconstructing the Megalosaurus was difficult, since no scientist ever pictured a creature of this kind.”
This isn’t scientific method. Its the opposite thereof (?)
But similar fragments were found previously and deemed in a different context.
“In 1676, several pieces were already sent to Robert Plot, back then also professor at the University of Oxford. But even though he correctly identified the bones as the lower extremity of a rather large animal, he incorrectly assumed them to be part of a giant human as mentioned in the Bible.’
So, it’s a giant human or a big reptile. I can hear James getting rather batey. Let’s split the difference and say they were giant reptilian humans.
The debate is also around the character and motive of the select individuals who find these large dinosaurs. (Fellows Of The Royal Society, as discussed in the podcast ).
As the attached piece on William Buckland highlights and the piece is not a hit job, quite the opposite. It’s from him we get to marry religion and science in our minds, my cognitive dissonance is placated….
1820 Vindiciæ Geologiæ; Connexion of Geology with Religion, Buckland explained, both justifying the new science of geology and reconciling geological evidence with the biblical accounts of creation and Noah’s Flood. At a time when others were coming under the opposing influence of James Hutton‘s theory of uniformitarianism(in contrast to catastrophism), Buckland developed a new hypothesis that the word “beginning” in Genesis meant an undefined period between the origin of the earth and the creation of its current inhabitants, during which a long series of extinctions his catastrophism theory incorporated a version of Old Earth creationism or Gap creationism. Buckland believed in a global deluge during the time of Noah but was not a supporter of flood geology as he believed that only a small amount of the strata could have been formed in the single year occupied by the deluge.”
But.
Now the scientific theory is of extinctionism via catastrophism. The culprit being a very large stone thrown from god’s hand from heaven, sorry, a meteorite hitting earth.
As (Team Icke) Giant reptilian humanoids roaming the earth would be my conclusion. As a Christian, giants from Nephilim offspring or a paleontologist giant humans or….reptiles. oh heck. I’m off.
I would apologise to Toby for bringing this to his doorstep but he
Said: “Keighley, an unpronounceable Northern town! ”
So bugger that.