One of us has been called to give evidence to the Hallett Covid Inquiry. So Carl worked for weeks on his submission, assuming that the Inquiry would genuinely look at events of the last three years and the evidence decisions were made on. Chaired by a British judge who seemed to stand no nonsense from politicians, a widely respected member of the Upper House, what could go wrong?
Inquiry watchers will know that usually what happens is that the process looks impartial and, in some cases, probably is impartial, then you get a report which is either in the wishy-washy sphere or is ignored by the Government and public health like Dame Deirdre Hines’ report on the 2009 influenza pandemic was.
The Government took no notice of Dame Deirdre’s warning about overreliance on predictive models, and here we are again. However, once the cards are on the table, we need not worry too much about who says what in the Hallett Inquiry, who is called, who is ignored and whatever its findings are.
Why? Because the Inquiry has already bought into the Government narrative.
Julia Hartley-Brewer informed us that anyone giving evidence must have a (negative) lateral flow test. Yes really. (See the document here from the Inquiry website.)
Testing
We are asking all staff and visitors to take a lateral flow test:
i) For staff and visitors attending daily – a test at the beginning of each week.
ii) For staff and visitors attending on individual days – a test in advance of attending.
Tomorrow will see the start of the @covidinquiryuk hearings.
— Julia Hartley-Brewer (@JuliaHB1) June 12, 2023
It doesn't bode well for an evidence-based inquiry given their "Covid policy" includes asking everyone who attends to… take a Covid lateral flow test. Yes, really.pic.twitter.com/A7cM8GYpOi
So the Inquiry a priori assumes that:
- Lateral flow tests can correctly identify active cases of SARS-CoV-2, those most likely to be infectious (otherwise, why do the test and ask positives to stay away?);
- A positive later flow test equals infectivity (i.e., we know the mode of transmission, including the infectious dose or inoculum);
- That whatever measures they take to prevent ‘positives’ from giving evidence in person are going to slow or interrupt transmission;
- If someone gives evidence while coughing and spluttering but has a negative SARS-CoV-2 test, they will not transmit what they are infected with (if an infection is causing the symptoms).
The Inquiry team must therefore think the billion lateral flows we bought and distributed were worth the costs – thus, what’s the point of the inquiry?
They could have easily adopted one of the other policies: why not a Rule of Six, two-metre distancing? Hopefully, you get the point: they may even have the screens up if you attend or a 10 o’clock curfew if you’re lucky.
An inquiry should address the issues with an open mind. If this were a court of law, the case might be dismissed for witness tampering.
This doesn’t bode well – it means the Inquiry team is already making assumptions about what works and what doesn’t, introducing bias before it gets started on taking evidence from witnesses.
There needs to be a clear statement of who made this decision on what basis – otherwise, what happens next in the inquiry is immaterial.
Dr. Carl Heneghan is the Oxford Professor of Evidence Based Medicine and Dr. Tom Jefferson is an epidemiologist based in Rome who works with Professor Heneghan on the Cochrane Collaboration. This article was first published on their Substack blog, Trust The Evidence, which you can subscribe to here.
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‘Mr. Justice Johnson told the court: “In a democratic society underpinned by rule of law, court injunctions must be obeyed. They (defendants) are entitled to disagree with the result, they are not entitled to disobey the court injunction.”
What a bloody hard-faced tosser of a judge.
Democratic society – wrong there Mr Johnson and by many years.
Underpinned by rule of law – where have you been the last couple of months Mr Johnson?
Injunctions must be obeyed – is that similar to electoral law where you declare your constituency address but actually live miles away yet stand for parliament at the constituency address?
Or, sell a home bought at a discount from the taxpayer while owning another property and then failing to pay tax on the profit gained.
Tommy Robinson has been jailed for embarrassing the government and so-called authorities generally. Tommy Robinson is a political prisoner and you know it Mr Johnson.
Rule of law? Democracy? FFS!
What a bloody hard-faced tosser of a judge.
I read it as panic. They’ve realised the game is up, and that their only choice now is repression, i.e. creating political prisoners.
How can something be ”libellous” if it’s true? This bully kid had significant history for being an anti-social, violent, trouble-making lout, as many people could testify. It’s just a shame Tommy had to go and do this rather than download thousands of kids being sexually abused. He’d have been down the pub celebrating being a free man now! Nevermind, eh? Pff..
But that’s where we are with ‘justice’ Clown World style. The person that poses the threat to government and is on the side of the people gets banged up while the paedos and perverts that pose a risk to the general public walk free, due to being no threat to the establishment. ”How do you like your justice served, sir? Shit sandwich style?”
It’s a sick and corrupt game, alright.
FFS, they’ve stuck him in Belmarsh, just like he predicted! I did not know you could email prisoners, but there you go. Even prisons seem to have moved with the times. His prison number is: A2084CG and you can click on the link and follow the instructions. I might have a gander in a bit;
”Important admin update.
We’ve just been made aware that Tommy has now been brought into Belmarsh high security prison, however may not be able to make a call for a few days until all numbers are added to the system.
You can now send letters, cards etc with the prison number provided.”
https://www.emailaprisoner.com/?fbclid=IwY2xjawGMr6tleHRuA2FlbQIxMQABHWP4WPd5cuO3_XQy7LO-3-upDM1f_QmsGtoNwZkballWTCxZgyeS_A1EvA_aem_bJ-DbCoE6Q4AFrfHM_eGaA
Thank you Mogs.
55 million views around the world and counting! Now they’re really getting worried, and so they should.
This parody of justice can only achieve one thing… those with a modicum of mental acquisitiveness who haven’t yet watched the documentary will now become curious.
My advice? Don’t judge until you’ve seen it and heard what he has to say.
If you haven’t already, You’ll see why they are terrified.
“In a democratic society underpinned by rule of law, court injunctions must be obeyed.”
But when the judges do not obey the rule of law what do you do?
What is left?
Judge Nicklin dismissed the brave school children who came forward as witnesses in the libel trial and accused them of being liars.
And that was when the Claimant Syrian refugee produced no evidence and they testified he was the perpetrator or multiple wrongs and gross bad behaviour.
What kind of Judge behaves like that?
The answer is you do the only thing left which is what Tommy Robinson did and published his film telling the truth to the world.
Awesome. That man has immense courage and moral authority.
Our decadent Establishment has made a mistake in creating another political prisoner because the more such prisoners they create the more people will want to know why they’re doing it. What I’ve noticed is that five years ago if you said The Great Replacement, most people would dismiss the idea, but that now more and more people will either fall silent or agree that The Great Replacement is happening. The tide is turning against the anti-whitists.
“MIKE AMESBURY SPONSORING ANTI-SOCIAL BEHAVIOUR AWARENESS CAMPAIGN LAUNCH NEXT MONTH”
https://order-order.com/2024/10/28/mike-amesbury-sponsoring-anti-social-behaviour-awareness-campaign-launch-next-month/#:~:text=MIKE%20AMESBURY%20SPONSORING%20ANTI%2DSOCIAL%20BEHAVIOUR%20AWARENESS%20CAMPAIGN%20LAUNCH%20NEXT%20MONTH
I am sure this vicious grifter will be a grateful recipient of ‘justice underpinned by the rule of law.’
Here is the same link with what might be tracking information removed:
https://order-order.com/2024/10/28/mike-amesbury-sponsoring-anti-social-behaviour-awareness-campaign-launch-next-month/
It’s not tracking information. This is an HMTL fragment anchor (location in a page), ie some text after the URL proper which starts with a # and defines an attribute called text whose values is
MIKE AMESBURY SPONSORING ANTI-SOCIAL BEHAVIOUR AWARENESS CAMPAIGN LAUNCH NEXT MONTH
percent-encoded (https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/rfc3986#section-2.1), ie with each space character replaced by % followed by the ASCII code value of space as hexadecimal number (20 which is 32 decimal).
Completely political and nothing else. But if it draws more people to examine the facts, then so much the better.
Rock on Tommy.
OK, so he was successfully sued by Hijazi, but how do we know that was the correct result?
That is easy. Repeat the defamation and see if you get sued. And if you get sued will you be able to prove what you said or published is true.
The problem is whether any of the witnesses will come forward and tell the truth.
Oops and of course I forgot about the justice system in which according to Tommy Robinson’s court statement he was not allowed to make [Silenced again].
TR’s witnesses were very brave schoolchildren who came forward to give testimony about the behaviour of the Syrian refugee child who it appears according to their testimony was the perpetrator.
Here is a small extract:
“Justice Nicklin’s verdict in this case is extraordinary ….. far more important is the impact his verdict has had on those courageous children who came to court to testify in my defence. Justice Nicklin effectively discarded their testimonies. He said he didn’t know why they were lying but called them liars nevertheless.”
Post Office workers, Lucy Letby and many many more beside Tommy Robinson and those brave schoolchildren are victims of our corrupt judicial system.
Judge Nicklin – you have been judged and found guilty. But you can walk free and continue to do damage to our country and its justice system by sitting in court in judgement over those better than you.
Here is the full statement Tommy Robinson was not allowed to make in Court:
”Your honour, I believe in freedom of speech and freedom of the press. My duty as a journalist is to uncover the truth and I have worked for years to shine light on challenges in society that no one else is willing to speak about.
Have you watched the documentary Your Honour?
If you have watched the film ‘Silenced’ Your Honour you will have seen that I didn’t make accusations and I didn’t make assumptions in the film. I simply repeated what I was told by the Head Teacher of the school and others and what was written in black and white in school documents. I let the witnesses give their testimonies and made it clear that Jamal, in his right to reply, denies all of their accusations against him. I explain Justice Nicklin’s verdict and I explain that I lost the case.
There was nothing else I could have included because Jamal didn’t bring any evidence to court and he didn’t bring anyone to court to speak for him apart from his father, Jihad. No teachers. No social workers. No friends.
It is for this,… REPORTING… for this that I am facing these charges, for this I am facing the prospect of time in a maximum security prison with the risks to my life that presents.
Justice Nicklin’s verdict in this case is extraordinary and while the case caused my divorce and bankruptcy, far more important is the impact his verdict has had on those courageous children who came to court to testify in my defence.
Justice Nicklin effectively discarded their testimonies. He said he didn’t know why they were lying but called them liars nevertheless.
Charlie, a grade A student, didn’t even like me or support me but was courageous enough to come to court to testify. She had a breakdown, she had to be sectioned. Justice Nicklin caused that.
Bailey Maclaren had tried to commit suicide. Thankfully he has started to rebuild his life. He has to overcome the lie that he is racist.
Many others have been affected.
The collateral damage of this scandalous verdict was too great for the public not to know the truth.
Some people still believe the legacy media is there to report what is happening, the truth, rather than push strongly biased accounts driven by ideology or political agendas.
Well, in this case, the press only attended court on the day Jamal and his father gave their accounts. They then left court and didn’t bother to return to hear the testimony of the children who were witnesses for the defence.
The whole balanced picture could not be reported by the legacy media because they weren’t there; they weren’t interested in what the children testifying for the defence had to say.
And then Justice Nicklin tried to prevent the whole picture being given to the public by issuing his injunction, banning the film. Justice Nicklin has banned me from presenting the same evidence that was presented in court.
If it is such a clear-cut case, why is it necessary to hide the facts from the public. If they watched the testimonies of the witnesses, they would surely come to the same conclusion as Justice Nicklin.
What’s the agenda here?
Well the injunction was apparently to protect Jamal’s reputation. Yet it’s not the reputation of Jamal that has been damaged by this legal circus.
I don’t wish any ill for Jamal. I personally think he was a victim of his own predatory lawyers and those who blasted this story around the world for their own purposes.
It’s very telling that Jamal hasn’t asked for me to be prosecuted in this case. Neither have his lawyers. The case has been brought by the Attorney General, by the Government.
In my view there are similarities with the Post OMice case. Powerful interests hiding the truth for their own purposes regardless of the terrible consequences for those innocent children I have mentioned, and others.
I could have shown the film ‘Silenced’ at any point in the preceding three years. I didn’t.
However, I did make the decision to play this film in Trafalgar Square on the 27th July this year. and I am grateful to @elonmusk and X for allowing the film to remain available; for standing for freedom of speech and a free press.
So if you’re asking me whether I plead guilty or not guilty, yes, I’m guilty of showing the film in Trafalgar Square on 27th July. And I am guilty of JOURNALISM.
And, although not for you Your Honour, nor for your court nor for the entire justice system, I do have contempt for Justice Nicklin’s ruling and the actions that attempt to hide the truth from the public.
Justice Nicklin fell out with his own father before the case, arguing about me. He should have recused himself before the case even began.
The world is watching. I stand for the truth, for freedom of speech and freedom of the press and if that puts me on the wrong side of Justice Nicklin’s injunction, then so be it.
If I have to sit in jail for speaking the truth; Well I am just one of many people now that this government is imprisoning for things they say; political prisoners.
This government is releasing violent offenders early to make space for people who tweet things they disagree with.
Peter Lynch is the first to have paid the ultimate price. A sixty-one year-old father, and grandfather, non-violent but imprisoned for his views and his speech.
If I have to sit in jail for refusing to be silenced for reporting information that was brought to me for journalism…
Then I am prepared for that.
Thank you”
Thanks.
Just for those who haven’t seen it, here’s the brief clip of the Richard Tice interview where he makes reference to Tommy and his supporters in a very insulting manner. David Atherton has done a big ole post on Reform and TR, so I’ll just share this excerpt. I 100% concur with him, personally. Reform and Farage are a serious disappointment;
”During the run up to the General Election many Reform candidates had to stand down due to them supporting Robinson or pointing out flaws in our Islamic community. On an interview, again on GB News, Tice referred to them as “muppets”.
Much of the research was gleaned from Hope Not Hate, a far-left, Marxist inspired organisation. With irony, they have gone out of their way to paint Reform’s leader Nigel as so called, “far-right”.
On 6th August Farage referred “to the Tommy Robinson’s and those that genuinely do stir up hatred, I’ve never had anything to do with them”. Robinson replied “You really do need to do your homework and stop lying about me, it’s despicable.”
The roughshod “justice” of 24-hour courts and vicious sentences for social media posts, while people note paedophiles and violent criminals being released, he is pouring 105 octane fuel on the fire. Many are effectively political prisoners.
Peter Lynch was jailed for two years, eight months for violent disorder, but never laid a glove or a brick on anyone. His death, apparently by suicide, in prison has been well reported. Anecdotal reports of rioters placed in Muslim wings has produced reactions of huge discontentment.
Robinson has been the figure of hate from the Establishment, the Blob since he formed the EDL in 2009. Politicians, its mouthpiece mainstream media and politicians perform gymnastics worthy of Louis Smith, to bend their backs over to demonise him and besmirch his reputation.
I am sure we all know the reason. His indefatigability in his often accurate criticisms of some sections of Islam, especially grooming gangs, has marked him out along with his rallies. As Douglas Murray observed the Blob does not to deal with the principle problem of militant Islam, it deals with the secondary reaction, Robinson and some of his supporters.
As I write he has just been sentenced to 18 months in prison for contempt of court.
You probably can’t get a cigarette paper between him and Douglas Murray. The latter being posh and Eton educated, albeit on a scholarship, versus the rough diamond working-class Robinson. Murray has been generous enough acknowledge the class difference. He even wrote an article, “Tommy Robinson Drew Attention to ‘Grooming Gangs.’ Britain Has Persecuted Him.”
If the Reform Party does show sympathy to Robinson, there would be massive negative ramifications. When UKIP was associated with Robinson, mainstream media got its boots on.”
https://x.com/DaveAtherton20/status/1850909917529461144
TR is heroic. He is slandered as a nazi by the usual cadre of morons who have zero clue about the Muslim rape gangs and 1 million young English girls raped by the same; and 1400 years of Muslim Jihad. TR’s cousin was raped by Muslims at age 14 – and the plod, politicians etc did squat all.
Agree on Reform. They sent an email threatening anyone (Reform member) who holds any positive views on TR or EDL. Tice was full on retard for the Rona scamdemic as well. Farage had nothing to say about that Medical Nazism.
Reform is a disappointment. I might reconsider my membership. The only reason I might support them is if they shut the borders. I am wondering if/when they go soft on that.
Farage had nothing to say about that Medical Nazism.
Actually Farage had a significant message concerning the C1984 and most pointedly at the time the poisonous “vaccines” were being released. He actually said, paraphrased..
‘Make Tony Blair the tsar for vaccine delivery.’
That statement was made on Farage’s YouTube channel. I immediately unsubscribed and have been dubious about Farage and indeed Reform ever since. I do respect Lee Anderson but certainly cannot support Reform.
As far as I am concerned Farage is running with the hound and the hares and I cannot stomach such duplicity. I will not be supporting Reform and anyway…
Our salvation will not arrive via the ballot box.
Yup, agree. Beginning to get a little tired of Reform and their let-downs, particularly Tice, who is a massive liability.
I share your reservations about Tice, and think he’s trying to manoeuvre politically rather than being a true representative of those who are ‘real Reformers’. I suspect that Farage would be far truer to Reform if Tice were not there. Whatever people think of Tommy Robinson, he should be given a fair hearing, not locked up. Did the judges in his case(s) ever watch he ‘silenced’ documentary? I bet not. We simply cannot have an ‘establishment’ situation immortalised by the line in the film ‘Shooter’, spoken by the corrupt senator “the truth is whatever I say it is”, but it seems that’s what we do have.
What do you think of this video called “Nationalism Explained”?
None of the subversive “civic nationalism” in this:
The Homeland Party – Nationalism Explained
I didn’t watch this completely, but here’s criticism of one thing: The so-called right of self-determination of the peoples was invented by Russian Bolshevists in 1917 despite they never meant to honour it themselves. It then got picked up by Woodrow Wilson and the Entente side in general because it provided a useful justification for there pre-exising war goals of dismantling the empire of Austria-Hungary and forcing millions of Germans to live under non-German rule based on the pretext that they had been settled in location where the ethnicities had freely mixed during centuries of the exclusive existence of dynastic states, ie, governed by a certain ruling house.
They never really meant it because their European creations were Czechoslovakia where the Czechs lorded of large minorites of Germans and Slovaks living in closed territories, the multi-ethnic state of Poland and lastly, the Greater Serbian empire, Yugoslavia, where the Serbs dominated all other Slavic people in the Balkans.
After this hodge-podge had given raise to another large European war because Poland, leaning on England and France, refused the German request of an extraterritorial corridor to Eastern Prussia and to recognize that the so-called Free State of Danzig was a German city, the miracle solution these benefactors of mankind came up with was large-scale ethnic cleansing of Eastern Middel Europe, ie, drive all the Germans who had been living there for centuries from their ancestral homelands at the expense of a killing a few millions of them.
No, I must disagree. At first I disagreed because the Ukrainian Christian farmers who refused to give their family farms to the Jewish Bolsheviks for collectivisation in 1933 were the ones protesting about their own rights to self-determination, for themselves, their people and their land.
Then I read this:
“The American Revolution has been seen as the earliest assertion of the right of national and democratic self-determination, as well as the concepts of consent and sovereignty by the people governed. These ideas were inspired particularly by John Locke’s writings of the previous century.
Thomas Jefferson further promoted the notion that the will of the people was supreme, especially through authorship of the United States Declaration of Independence, which became an inspiration for European nationalist movements during the 19th century.
The French Revolution legitimatized the ideas of self-determination on that Old World continent.”
The American Revolution was an uprising of English colonists living at the outskirts of an alien continent against the way they were treated (or mistreated) by parliament and monarchy in England. It came way after the Dutch republic had been established as part of a national (in this case, a real one) struggle to drive out the Spanish Habsburgs who had inherited the country from their German relations.
Insofar France can be called a nation state, that’s because of centuries of systematically oppressing the native people living in the various territories French kings had acquired by force of arms and sometimes, diplomacy, since the middle ages.
The concept of self-determination of the peoples saw its birth during the Brest-Litowsk negotiations of 1917. The Bolshevists mainly employed it because they hoped to regain control of the Baltic (conquered by Germany) and Finland (national uprising with German military support) in this way. Ludendorff makes a special note of that in his war memoir because it really rose to prominence under the stewardship of the Western Entente powers and especially, the USA. But it was always just a phrase. The Russian Bolshevists certainly didn’t plan to respect the so-called right of self-determination of the Ukrainian people (or the Crim Tartars or the Cossacks or … or …) and the Anglo-French-American alliance just employed it as a smoke-screen for its anti-German war goals.
I understand your position completely. I don’t like their policy on immigration i.e. one out, one in. That’ll do nothing to stem the destruction of the British population, culture and way of life. It will only stop the population growing via immigration.
Of all the parties, I think that The Heritage Party are the best, but they and all the smaller parties need PR or at least not FPTP to get representation in parliament. Reform are the only non uniparty that has any chance of getting meaningful numbers of MPs elected and forming the opposition or even the government. They have said that reforming the voting system and bringing in something like PR is one of the main policies and I assume they would do that pretty quickly. Without that, true representation of the people will never happen.
We all need to hold our noses and support and vote for The Reform Party to destroy the uniparty parties and get change. Once they are in government, they will be freer, maybe, to more radical things, but at least the voting system will be changed. Then, if people so wish, they can then return to the parties that they really want to support, knowing that their vote will count more than it does today.
This is our last/only chance to make real change happen. All small parties, whatever their political views, need to support The Reform Party over the next 4 to 5 years and get them elected and then maybe people who really love this country can be elected in the subsequent years.
“We all need to hold our noses and support and vote for The Reform Party”
No ‘nose-holding’ is necessary as far as the membership is concerned, having met very many of them.
They are predominantly intelligent educated professionals and not anything ‘ist‘. So if you are looking for ‘Far Right’ you will predominantly be disappointed.
Labour and Conservatives voted for Reform as is clear from the election results last July.
Starmfurhrer is out on a limb as far as anything ‘Far’ goes.
He is in reality as Far Left as you can go.
Unearthed Marxist magazine reveals ‘middle of the road’ Starmer is NOT all he seems…
Nigel is going to pull another “Bait & Switch”, handing the leadership over to a Pakistani Muslim Billionaire.
Nigel has already destroyed two “patriot” parties he set up himself, UKIP and Brexit, but we all keep foolishly trusting him again and again, because he is such a great orator.
I don’t doubt that very many, if not the majority of members and voters of The Reform Party are nice, intelligent and sensible people. I am too – having a first and PhD in Chemistry and was until recently a forensic toxicologist. My point, which was surely obvious, was to all the people who are disappointed by what has been said or not said by the party in relation to Tommy Robinson, The Freedom March, Mr Lynch et al. to stick with the Party as they are the only way of initiating change. ‘Far Right’ doesn’t come in to it. This applies, though, to all smaller parties, left, right, whatever, hence “all small parties, whatever their political views”.
I think that The Heritage Party is the most conservative party available at the moment, but they don’t have a chance of doing anything at the moment. The voting system needs to change and Reform can make that happen.
NO! Nigel is pulling another “Bait & Switch”, to let a Pakistani Muslim Billionaire take over as Reform Party leader.
Have a look at this seven-minute video called “Nationalism Explained”, and see if there is anything you disagree with in it:
The Homeland Party – Nationalism Explained – YouTube
Very good, but to get The Homeland Party into parliament will require a different voting system. Hence my initial comment above. If Nigel reneges on what he has said and he might, I agree, then change will indeed not come by the ballot box as Huxleypiggles says often. I genuinely think that there is a chance and that The Reform Party is the only sensible way available in the time that is left.
Well, I agree with the Heroic Andrew Bridgen, who said that no political party will be able to help us. The rescue of western civilization “must come from the bottom up”, he said, implying that it must come from the people themselves, not the ballot box.
Importing some rapists and terrorists by dinghy but the priority is chucking this guy in jail, one raped a lady in my town. They hate this country.
He knew what he was going to get and carried on defiantly. I suppose you have to commend him for his stoicism given the hard time he had of it in prison before.
How is it the Court system, Barristers and Judges like finding the innocent guilty and locking them up?
TR, Lucy Letby, Post Office workers and how many more?
And that possibly includes the barely guilty like the woman who put up a tweet and took it down within 3 hours.
Judges are clearly not independent of government when they do that.
Its a police state for white people but not grooming gangs and others.
I would like to know exactly what this snivelling, cowardly weasel Jamal Hijazi and his family were doing in Syria before they “fled” the country as “refugees”. Their name is Saudi Arabian.
Were they part of the Muslim Brotherhood that President Assad and his father kicked out of Syria, before the Muslim Brotherhood moved its headquarters to London?
True Syrians are loyal to their elected President Assad, and have no need to “flee” as fake refugees.
I would also like to know how much British Taxpayers’ Money was used to fund this weasel’s lawsuit against a British Patriot. In other words, how much money has been drained from British Taxpayers to fund this weasel, now smirking while a courageous British Patriot is sent to prison for telling the truth, and how much money do this Hijazi family and their lawyers continue to drain from British Taxpayers, who never voted for any of it?
Whilst at the aged in laws today ITV were covering TR,s conviction by explaining that it wasn’t true what he said about the Syrian kid ! HMG shut the school over it didn’t they ??? How much more SH1T do we have to swallow , God Bless SYLennon you are a Hero
Rock on Tommy – they get what they deserve – contempt!
Putin in Russia jailed Alexei Navalny.
Aren’t we lucky that we live here in free, democratic Britain where things like that just can’t happen!
Mogs & Hux great input as usual , I’m still here reading but not much time to post , keep it up you grand Stalwarts
Of the famous five questions spoken by Antony Wedgewood Benn, the one to be addressed to all judges imposing excessive or misplaced sentences is the last:
What power have you got? Where did you get it from? In whose interest do you exercise it? To whom are you accountable? And how can we get rid of you?
As things stand there is no way for the public to de-select rogue judges. They, like the legal class as a whole, are a law unto themselves. It follows from this that they lack the moral protections which otherwise are confirmed by the common law.
Judges can be removed from office for their conduct in the exercise of their office as a judge.
But it never happens.
Both Houses of Parliament have the power to petition The King for the removal of a judge of the High Court or the Court of Appeal.
This power originates in the 1701 Act of Settlement and is now contained in section 11(3) of the Senior Courts Act 1981.
It has never had to be exercised in England and Wales. It has in fact only been exercised once, when Sir Jonah Barrington was removed from office as a judge of the Irish High Court of Admiralty in 1830 for corruption: he misappropriated funds due to litigants. No English High Court or Court of Appeal judge has ever been removed from office under these powers.
Circuit and District Judges can be removed by the Lord Chancellor. However, they can only do so if the Lord Chief Justice agrees.
Judges can be removed from office for misconduct in their private or public life outside their judicial conduct following an investigation by the Office for Judicial Complaints.
However, as with all things in this country, the system is set up to protect its own and is IMHO as bent as a nine pound note.
Thank you for this informative reply.
We would agree, I imagine, that the procedures are so cumbersome and removed from democratic principles of checks & balances as to be dismissed.
I can think of two procedures which could satisfy the pressing need to eliminate loose cannon.
The issue here is the judgement and character of members of the judiciary who have come to public attention by persistently offending reason, proportionality and common decency. This does, granted, assume that there are independent and prominent media to publicise such matters, a circumstance which is no longer given, if ever it was. But one thing at a time.
What are needed here particularly, but I would argue in all professions, are reviews by experienced members of outside professions. It cannot be allowed that the guardians are inspected by others of the same ilk. The argument that specialist knowledge is essential, which is only available to those schooled in law, is false: one does not need to be a carpenter to see that the table wobbles.
An alternative approach would be to de-select judges by popular vote. In some states in the USA judges are elected, which is rather putting the cart before the horse. Judges must be assessed on their record, not on their promises.
Since there would seem to be many loose cannon operating as judges, the remedy would best take the form of each relevant judge being subject to deselection by the electorate of his or her area of residence, i.e. rather than on a national basis. Remember, too, that we are only talking about judges who are persistently unreasonable. Others would never face deselection. Isolated misjudgements are allowed and forgivable since corrected on appeal. It is character and general judgement of judges which must to be subject to independent scrutiny. Where such scrutiny is absent, there is also an absence of moral legitimacy and the protections it offers.
(Taken from my substack, fuzzydemocracy, which also maintains that the check & balance which electoral democracy offers cannot be effective where there are political parties.)
We have a corrupt judicial system.
No if’s and no but’s.
We have judges who behave routinely as if they can behave however they want.
And there is nothing anyone can do about them.
Appeal is no use in a case where the judge can see the party offended by him or her does not have the money or ability to appeal or will give just give up when faced with appeal.
The Post Office scandal puts the seal on it because the same solicitors handled case after case and the same barristers would be instructed in case after case and no doubt the same judges would hear the cases as all would be given the cases having familiarity with the subject-matter.
In those circumstances it beggars belief that none of these highly educated people versed in law and legal procedure would not have noticed anything was wrong.
The Tommy Robinson case is a disgrace. To dismiss evidence of school children without any good reason and when the claimant produced no evidence is appalling.
The Lucy Letby case is also appalling. I had misgivings about that case before the verdict – there were tell-tale signs of a typical miscarriage of justice case.
And I have personal experience of corrupt judges – corrupt in the sense that they do the opposite of what they are supposed to do.
There needs to be a campaign by concerned citizens and electors using Judge Nicklin in the Tommy Robinson case as the focus
With now 55 million people around the world having seen the video there surely should be the momentum for some inspiring and inspired person to get this done.
Tommy Robinson will have plenty of time over the next nine to eighteen months and he meets the criteria.
It will screw the governor of the prison if thousands of people start writing to Tommy Robinson – even if they bin the letters and he never gets them.
Then people can start writing to the Governor or everyone can write to both at the same time.
No doubt there are human rights laws and freedom of speech laws which would be infringed if the correspondence does not get to Tommy Robinson.
And there is email too.
Can people get email in prison? The Governor can. Maybe people should start writing [politely] to the Governor demanding Tommy Robinson be protected from harm from the muslim extremist gangs who appear to run some of our prisons.
And we can ask the Governor what will he be doing to make sure Tommy Robinson is protected.
That is my view is the place to start.
Who is the Governor of the prison? Which one? What is the address? What is the email address?
JENNY LOUIS is apparently now the governor of Belmarsh Prison, according to the Wikipedia site:
Contact Belmarsh
Governor: Jenny Louis
Telephone: 020 8331 4400
Monday to Friday, 7am to 8pm, weekends, 7am to 5pm
Fax: 020 8331 4401
Find out about call charges
Email: communications.Belmarsh@justice.gov.uk
Address
HMP Belmarsh
Western Way
Thamesmead
London
SE28 0EB
See map
HM Prison Belmarsh – Wikipedia
Belmarsh Prison – GOV.UK
Only slightly O/T but does anyone on here know exactly HOW Peter Lynch committed suicide?
Just interested to know how a slightly portly 62 year old managed it, given that I understand that blades, belts, ties and shoelaces are taken away
“belts, ties and shoelaces are taken away”
I think that is not correct. And there are bed sheets.
But your question is pertinent. Is there going to be an inquest?
There should be an Article 2 Human Rights inquest because this was a death in the hands of the State.
Several internet commenters said he had hanged himself, and I also wondered how he could possibly have done that in prison. It seems more likely that he was murdered, and it was made to look like suicide.
Mr Y-L now has 9 months to reflect on the agenda that he’s going to lead when he is released. That could be fun to watch… Will Two-Tier still be PM next summer – I somehow doubt it. Will the backlash against illiberal-lieralism have gathered pace? Harder to predict. Will Reform win the by-election caused by the appalling behaviour of Mike Amesbury – got to have a good chance, despite the GE [Lab 22.3k votes, Reform second on 7.7k]. Will Amesbury have the decency to resign?. Meantime, perhaps Y-L should change his name again, to ‘Alexei Navalny’ this time
Can’t MPs now be forced out if enough constituency voters complain?
Is it 10%?
Yes, thru the mechanism of a constiteunts’ Recall petition. From gov.uk “By signing a recall petition, voters are saying they want their MP to lose their seat.
If at least 10% of voters in the constituency sign the petition, the MP will lose their seat and it will trigger a by-election. The recalled MP can stand as a candidate at the by-election”
I would imagine that Reform are well on top of the matter – they came second in the GE, but by quite a margin
Did Justice Johnson actually watch the ‘silenced’ documentary to see if any libel was present? Of course not, as likely embarrassing.
Tommy nearly starved to death in Belmarsh last time, because the prison allowed Muslim Inmates to prepare all of Tommy’s meals !!! The prison said they were protecting him from Muslim Inmates by putting him in solitary confinement, and then allowed Muslim Inmates to cook all his meals. It’s a deliberate, conspiratorial failure to protect him at all.
They are also reportedly doing the same to all the British Patriots everywhere in the country, putting them in with Muslim prisoners who hate them.
Of course he knew the evil b*stards would contaminate his food, so he had no choice but to live on tins of tunafish from the prison shop, as that was the only food he could trust. That’s why he was so emaciated when he was finally freed. I dread to think what will happen to him this time, and what happened to Peter Lynch.
As someone said, “He is Britain’s Navalny.”
No Human Rights for Whites. More Far Left anti-white racism.
Clear breaches of Tommy Robinson’s human rights aside from being criminally illegal.
Who are the criminals running our prisons? Are prison Governors now so scared of the inmates they have no control? Or are they just bent as a nine pound note?
As I suggested here – a campaign of letter and email writing is needed to the prison Governor warning him to take good care of Tommy Robinson and that the world is watching and 55 million views of the documentary is proof alone of that.
Who is the Governor of the prison? Which one? What is the address? What is the email address?
You are absolutely right— well done!
JENNY LOUIS is apparently now the governor of Belmarsh Prison, according to the Wikipedia site:
Belmarsh Prison – GOV.UK
HM Prison Belmarsh – Wikipedia
Contact BelmarshGovernor: Jenny Louis
Telephone: 020 8331 4400
Monday to Friday, 7am to 8pm, weekends, 7am to 5pm
Fax: 020 8331 4401
Find out about call charges
Email: communications.Belmarsh@justice.gov.uk
Follow Belmarsh on Twitter/X.
AddressHMP Belmarsh
Western Way
Thamesmead
London
SE28 0EB
Thanks.
No time like the present. Time to get writing.
But be polite. The key phrase: ‘the world is watching’.
With over 55 million views of the banned film and still counting, that is true.
55 million people watched it??!!
Astonishing, encouraging news in these dark times.
Oh no…. I’ve accidentally read this one too.I could be in deep now.
It seems Starmer needs to be forced to let people out of gaol over the Southport murders of little girls at a Swifty dance class.
They were not Far Wrong and not Far Right but broadly it seems they were right to be angry and justifiably so. Whilst that does not excuse lawless behaviour it does suggest the sentences StarmFuhrer’s tame judges imposed are excessive in all the circumstances.
I must be careful what I write as the alleged murderer’s trial is in January.
A Merseyside police press conference was held today. So that I am not saying it I will quote the press:
Southport murder suspect Axel Rudakubana charged with terror and poison offencesLatest charges come after searches of Axel Rudakubana’s home found ricin and military study of an ‘Al Qaeda training manual’
Biological toxin ricin found at home of Southport triple-murder suspect
Southport ‘attacker’ charged with having Al-Qaeda material and making ricinAxel Rudakubana, 18, who is alleged to have carried out a knife attack in July, has been charged with an offence under the Terrorism Act
Southport attack suspect Axel Rudakubana charged with terror offence and producing deadly poison ricin
Southport murder suspect Axel Rudakubana charged with terror and poison offencesLatest charges come after searches of Axel Rudakubana’s home found ricin and military study of an ‘Al Qaeda training manual’
It seems Starmer needs to be forced to let people out of gaol over the Southport murders of little girls at a Swifty dance class.
They were not Far Wrong and not Far Right but broadly it seems they were right to be angry and justifiably so. Whilst that does not excuse lawless behaviour it does suggest the sentences StarmFuhrer’s tame judges imposed are excessive in all the circumstances.
I must be careful what I write as the alleged murderer’s trial is in January.
A Merseyside police press conference was held today. So that I am not saying it I will quote the press:
Southport murder suspect Axel Rudakubana charged with terror and poison offencesLatest charges come after searches of Axel Rudakubana’s home found ricin and military study of an ‘Al Qaeda training manual’
Biological toxin ricin found at home of Southport triple-murder suspect
Southport ‘attacker’ charged with having Al-Qaeda manual and making ricinAxel Rudakubana, 18, who is alleged to have carried out a knife attack in July, has been charged with an offence under the Terrorism Act
Southport attack suspect Axel Rudakubana charged with terror offence and producing deadly poison ricin
Southport murder suspect Axel Rudakubana charged with terror and poison offences
Latest charges come after searches of Axel Rudakubana’s home found ricin and military study of an ‘Al Qaeda training manual’
Thankfully I am a founder member of FSU, cos I’m wondering whether in 2TK Britain I can be charged for accidentally reading these posts.
Yes.
Under the Thought Crimes Act 2020.
And now you have admitted it. Like the woman who admitted silently praying across the road from an abortion clinic.
She eventually won £10,000 in damages but not before lots of stress and the like.
In relation to being careful about what I write if you are not a Free Speech Union member you should join asap.
This is in a message sent by the FSU today:
“As you may have seen, the 17 year-old charged with the murder of three schoolgirls in Southport last July has now been charged with terrorism offences, i.e., downloading a military study of an Al-Qaeda training manual and manufacturing Ricin poison.
In light of this news, I wanted to remind you that the Free Speech Union has an arrangement in place with Luke Gittos, a criminal solicitor at the firm of Murray Hughman, whereby you can call him if you’re contacted by the police in connection with comments you’ve made on social media about the Southport attacks and subsequent civil disorder.
We’re now extending that to include any comments about today’s news.
Provided you’re a member, we will pay for a telephone consultation with Luke or someone from his firm about your case and may, at our discretion, pay for a solicitor to attend a police interview, as well as further legal work on your case, including your entire defence.
Just call 020-7701-8653 and ask for Luke Gittos. That’s an office number, but it will connect to an out-of-office mobile if you’re calling outside office hours.
We hope none of our members will get into trouble. We’ve provided legal assistance to several who did get into difficulty over the summer for saying things about the Southport attack on social media, including one veteran of the Royal Marines charged with stirring up racial hatred who has pleaded not guilty. His trial is forthcoming and we’re paying for a solicitor and a barrister.
Given the track record of the police and Director of Public Prosecutions over the summer, please think carefully before you say anything about these events or today’s news on social media. Remember, one man was jailed for reposting three supposedly ‘Islamophobic’ memes on Facebook (although that prosecution may now be unsafe). You might think that prosecuting people for reposting memes is more reminiscent of a tin-pot dictatorship than the birthplace of parliamentary democracy – and I’d agree with you. But this is Starmer’s Britain where free speech is not considered a human right worth defending.
If you are planning to say something on social media about any of this, we published some FAQs on online offences related to civil disorder here, which offer some guidance on what you can and can’t say without getting into trouble. I suspect the authorities will be quick to pounce, particularly if there are more outbreaks of civil disorder in response to the latest news.
Another thing to bear in mind is that you’re not supposed to say anything publicly about a forthcoming trial that risks prejudicing court proceedings. This is the rule of ‘sub judice’ and anyone who breaks it may be found to be in contempt of court. While it isn’t usually enforced against non-journalists for saying things on social media, it could be. The maximum sentence for contempt is an unlimited fine and/or two years in prison.
In addition, you could conceivably be prosecuted for describing the attacker as an Islamist, with Merseyside Police maintaining that the motive for the attack still hasn’t been established.
And remember, if the police do contact you in connection with something you’ve said on social media about these events, call Luke Gittos on 020-7701-8653. This is particularly important if you’re charged with a criminal offence. Whatever you do, don’t plead guilty until you’ve spoken to Luke or one of his colleagues.