Welcome to this week’s Weekly Sceptic podcast – episode 36!
Nick and Toby discuss the Coronation, the arrested protesters and the selective outrage of the ‘free speech’ supporters (who were notably silent during the lockdown protests). Nick admires Penny Mordaunt’s big sword and predicts a Meghan/Xena-esque response. They debate whether an absolute monarchy would be preferable to a constitutional one.
Nick and Toby discuss whether they believe the Queen said Meghan was evil — Toby is sceptical, even though he thinks Meghan is evil.
The Tories got smashed in the local elections and Toby and Nick discuss whether the Conservatives are finished or not.
Andrew Doyle hosted a televised debate between Andrew Bridgen and Fraser Myers about Myers’ polemical attack on Bridgen in Spiked. The boys discuss who did better and why it may have been a missed opportunity.
They then move on to ‘Across the Pond’, the section of the show about the U.S., and Nick and Toby discuss the accidental killing by choking (restraint) of a threatening homeless man (Jordan Neely) on a New York subway train. Tucker vs Fox heats up a little as Tucker says he’s going to go nuclear. And Toby brings us the latest on the Bud Light-Dylan Mulvaney saga and whether Bud Light may have, in fact, got a raw deal. And Nick discusses the rumour that a former first lady might, in fact, be a man. Nick then falls into a very deep rabbit hole.
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“BBC Radio 4 made no attempt to contact any of the study authors for interview or ‘right of reply’, which is a fairness obligation under the Ofcom Broadcasting Code. “
And yet there still seem to be people around here who don’t get the need to defund the BBC.
To be fair our entire media is as guilty as the BBC. It’s almost like there’s a conspiracy to dismiss each and every none vaccine related therapeutic isn’t it? Call me paranoid but…
Whatever the reason, most of them are at it, yes. But they don’t get their funds by state coercion, as the BBC does, nor do they purport to be an unbiased source of information, as the BBC does, nor do they trade on the long reputation the BBC has somehow enjoyed as an upholder of truth, globally, nor do they have a charter which forbids them from doing the kinds of things the BBC does all the time, despite its charter.
They are publicly funded and have been appalling
Indeed, but the rest of the media doesn’t have the false image of neutrality and honesty created by being the supposedly disinterested national broadcaster. And people aren’t coerced into funding their own indoctrination with other broadcasters.
Absolutely
If the BBC had a documentary on Gravity I’d hold onto the floor now.
Defunding the BBC is just a bonnet bee – it would make f. all difference. Currently it has a second-rate Tory shill in charge – but its news and current affairs output is essentially no different from most MSM. Outside that news element, which has always been subservient to government, and can be ignored, it remains the only provider of variety on the airwaves.
Clearly we disagree on this, for the reasons I’ve given – the BBC has additional, if wholly undeserved, credibility as a “national broadcaster”, which makes it more effective at propaganda than the commercial broadcasters. Alongside that, it is simply evil to coerce people into funding their own indoctrination.
You say it all —
It’s output is so biased it’s like watching propaganda for the Woke party. If it wasn’t for competition it would still be broadcasting SD content in 4:3 format and shutting down at 10.30 across 2 channels. It still can’t broadcast local news in HD!
The fact that the BBC wasn’t closed down after Saville means it never will be
Just like Parliament it is a nest of paedos
Defunding the BBC would stop it in its tracks. That’s a good difference.
Dr Sebastian Rushworth has posed a couple of good overviews of the Ivermectin situation:
Is ivermectin effective against covid?(January)
Update on ivermectin for covid-19(May)
And here’s a more recent comment from Dr Rushworth, from his own forum 17 days ago (quoted by permission):
“The evidence for ivermectin just continues to get stronger and stronger. It’s amazing that it still hasn’t become part of standard treatment protocols in most countries, considering the strong safety profile, extremely low cost, and massive effect size. Even if it’s only a tenth as good as the studies show, that still would make it worth using on a large scale.”
Just wait until you see the Oxford study. Its design is complete rubbish. It’s all so depressingly predictable
July 1, 2021
Professor Chris Butler
Professor Richard Hobbs
Lead Investigators—The PRINCIPLE Trial
University of Oxford —UK
(Via email)
Dear Professors,
We write to you today with serious and urgent concerns about the randomized
controlled trial of Ivermectin which you are about to begin in the UK.
At the outset, it is puzzling to understand why a trial of ivermectin would even be
necessary, given the preponderance of peer-reviewed scientific evidence that has been
published across the globe. This unassailable evidence includes dozens of randomized
controlled trials, and a systematic review and meta analysis (using the rigorous
Cochrane methods) that all show large magnitude improvements in case counts,
hospitalizations and deaths using ivermectin. Therefore, it seems profoundly unethical
to mount a trial designed to withhold efficacious treatment from any trial subject since
it is quite possible that participants in the control arm could worsen or die without it.
Accordingly, in consideration of the above, your recent statement that, “Several small
clinical studies have found that ivermectin may help to treat COVID-19. However, we
need more evidence from large clinical trials, which is why we have included the
treatment in the PRINCIPLE Trial,” is at best misleading, and at worst immoral.
Our catalogue of concerns also includes the design of the trial itself. If subjects are
enrolled in the PRINCIPLE trial for up to 15 days after onset of symptoms, this could
result in the enrolment of people with long standing symptoms, who need
more intensive combination therapy including corticosteroids, and those who have
already recovered. Such late enrolment would in effect be evaluating antiinflammatory
and immunomodulatory effects of ivermectin and not assessing it’s
antiviral properties, and steroids would also be indicated. It is now well known that
COVID-19 is best treated early and with combination therapy. Treating with Ivermectin
far too late in the disease does little to rationalize a good study.
The low doses of ivermectin to be given in the trial—an oral dose of 0.3 mg/kg body
weight for 3 days—is insufficient and will result in unreliable results data. The existing
data from randomized controlled trial indicates a dose response in terms of time to viral
clearance and time to symptomatic improvement, with a dose of 0.4 to 0.6 mg/kg for
5 days appearing optimal.
Another area of considerable uneasiness over your proposed trial of ivermectin is that
the protocol is dated February, 2021. This means that the information in the trial
consent form is both outdated and inaccurate since the latest evidence from June
2021—as previously articulated—shows that ivermectin prevents deaths from COVID-
19. It is imperative that the most up-to-date evidence be provided to prospective study
subjects in the consent form. The conclusions of the most recent peer-reviewed studies
(below) should be integrated into the form to ensure that participants are aware of
ivermectin’s proof of efficacy against COVID-19.
https://journals.lww.com/americantherapeutics/abstract/9000/ivermectin_for_prevent
ion_and_treatment_of.98040.aspx
https://journals.lww.com/americantherapeutics/fulltext/2021/06000/review_of_the_em
erging_evidence_demonstrating_the.4.aspx
What is also highly ambiguous is the process that will be used to differentiate study
subjects between the participants who are unvaccinated and those with postvaccination
COVID-19. If your study includes both vaccinated and unvaccinated
subjects, how will you distinguish them? Furthermore, is there a plan in place for
randomization to be stratified according to vaccination status?
In conclusion, it is our strong belief that The PRINCIPLE Trial is a non-essential, poorly
designed study that will lead to a harvest of unreliable data concerning the utility of
Ivermectin in COVID-19. Any further delays in getting safe, effective, early treatments
to patients will result in additional needless illness and death.
Sincerely,
Dr. Pierre Kory, FLCCC Alliance
Dr. Tess Lawrie, The BiRD Group
Among the long list of evils perpetrated by the guilty during the madness, the suppression of information and lack of interest in alternative treatments has to be near the top. Lockdowns, while damaging, could conceivably be seen by a complete idiot as trying to help, but there can be no plausible non-evil reason to hide potentially life-saving treatments.
Indeed.
Of course they will make all kinds of obfuscations about “evidence” and “safety” (comical considering the alternative has been “emergency” mass vaccination with experimental gene therapy), but it’s pretty clear what the driving force has been.
“Mummy, why did all the scientists and doctors dependent on big pharma and big government for research money and status not see the effectiveness of the cheap and easily available drugs that could have allowed them to not give billions to big pharma and not take all kinds of emergency powers for themselves?”
Indeed. But much more sinister is why government itself did not push for a proper investigation into alternatives. If you and I can easily find information that suggests other treatments are worth looking at, so can the PM, Hancock et al. They must have known.
I think it’s safe to say they will have been getting a very one sided briefing from their SAGE and health bureaucracy advisers, which will have dovetailed nicely with the personal incentives of increased power and status. They should have been looking outside that, but there’s no evidence any of them are the kinds of responsible leaders who would live up to that basic responsibility.
Indeed not. I would be curious to know to what extent their sins are of omission and which are sins of commission.
Bozo et al are nothing but puppets and as the C1984 is nothing to do with a virus or health, alternatives to Ivermectin are irrelevant.
If the result of the trial is what we expect then the names of Butler and Hobbs can be added to the ever – lengthening list of those guilty of crimes against humanity.
For many it is probably the first time they have been close to such shenanigans, which have been a common tactic in medical research for decades.
Covid19 – the final nail in coffin of medical research – OffGuardian (off-guardian.org)
What is (cynically) laughable is the lack of scrutiny of the snake oil, with its pathetic ARR of ~1%, bigged up to fantastic relative risk reduction figures.
It’s seems “anti-vaxxer” is a slur on par with paedophile or rapist in its a ability to ruin someones career. No one dare question the gospel of vaccines. It’s fucking weird.
It is the personification of evil.
The national broadcaster deliberately tells lies. One of the pre-eminent university deliberately sets out to perform a biased study.
All with one aim, to devalue the generic drug capabilities, that if proven would open up governments worldwide to legal liability in the $billions for forcing populations to take an experimental drug when a cheap alternative with no side effects was available.
LDS I call again for you to look at your souls, do the right thing, stop sitting on the fence, call out for a stop to jabbing before its too late!
Will, if you have read the attached, how can you live with the LDS ‘neutral’ position on vaccines?
https://www.ukcolumn.org/article/why-we-must-question-vaccine-efficacy-and-safety-claims
Another great Will Jones article, continued silence from Toby Young over vaccine efficacy and safety. Surprises me given his intelligence and enquiring mind. There doesn’t even seem to be a willingness to debate the issue, or engage with the data or statistics – read London Calling this week where he muzzled up (so to speak) by side swerving any discussion of vaccines with Dellingpole by turning the conversation towards masks. I’m driven to the conclusion that the man is either misinformed/committed to tin-eared denial or the men in black have got to him. Extremely disappointed in any case.
Yes very sorry to see him jump right off the subject especially when asked if he would allow his children to have it……..
In fairness, it’s pretty clear it’s a topic on which there is not full marital accord in either of the households involved…
The “Recovery” trial into Hydroxychloroquine ((sponsored by the Gates Foundation and Wellcome Trust and others with a conflict of interests)) was set up to fail. The unsuspecting patients were over-dosed with four times the appropriate amount. I suspect those behind this demonisation of a life-saver wanted to destroy it’s reputation so that the profiteering, experimental, no-liability vaccine agenda could be rolled out. Thousands of people lost their lives because HCQ was not used thanks to Medical Terrorists disguised as “health” bureaucrats.:
https://www.lifesitenews.com/opinion/hcq-behe
And in America, Robert F Kennedy Jr has called out Fauci for putting personal profiteering investments in vaccines before the health of patients, by deliberately side-lining early-use life-saving HCQ which prevents the cytokine storm which took the lives of so many. Fauci also – predictably turned his back on Ivermectin:
.https://twitter.com/meljennell/status/1344943827317006338/video/1
Just FYI and totally non scientific anecdote.
My son, his girlfriend, and most of their teenage coterie, have now tested positive on lateral flow tests for the cold virus 19.
When son got first symptoms, we told him to take our supply of ivermectin 4x3mg pils. He took half that, because he thinks I might be crazy. He got worse the following day.
I repeated the advice. Same thing day 2 & 3. He got worse and finally took the Ivermectin dose he was supposed to and the vitamin D, c, and zinc.
Now he is lifting weights. Meanwhile his girlfriend and friends are still on forced isolation and with sick symptoms.
Wifey and I have been on Ivermectin as prophylactic since they started complaining. We have no symptoms.
Hi AYM,
Please can you provide info’ or, better still, post a link to where one can buy Ivermectin? Thanks in advance.
Hi Tim. I went through Indiamart (https://my.indiamart.com/) and searched for pharmacies and ivermectin. I received many offers and settled on gurubabapharmaxprivatelimited@gmail.com.
i trialed a small shipment first and received a legitimate quantity of brandade Iverjohn produced in India. It takes about 2 weeks to ship and I paid using PayPal.
I then purchased a larger shipment which I added Hydroxychloroquine and Fluvoxamine in case someone I care about got ill. I am considering looking to get Budesamide but at the moment it hasn’t seemed necessary.
thanks for the information. sadly they don’t take paypal anymore. They suggested using worldremit which took the payment and then promptly closed my account for violation of some unknown rule.
The BBC is just another arm of the Industrial-Political- Money making Machine. It cares little for its’ listeners ‘ nor viewers’ well-being. Switch it off, do not watch nor listen to these propagandists.
I agree- never listen/watch as it just distracts and annoys, but I don’t think there’s anything industrial about it- industry has to be competitive and efficient.
I doubt that hydroxychloroquine works in early stage disease, but steroids certainly prevent a cytokine storm, as will tocilizumab. This was known long before SARS-CoV-2 came along, as I pointed out over a year ago, and suggested that a trial was therefore unnecessary. Bad science.
The ivermectin saga confirms that one cannot rely on “The Science “ when trials are improperly done, evidence is selected to fit the hypothesis, statistics are fiddled and the media drink up the dross uncritically. I hope, Will, you have made a formal complaint to the BBC and the Broadcasting Standards Authority.
What is worse is that even the experts seem to be scientifically illiterate…
The BBC have been this way for a long time. But until people stop believing the lies and propoganda the BBC will thrive and carry regardless
Defund the BBC. Now.
Why is Ofcom not taking this up and forcing the BBC to re-transmit their program with accurate information? The BBC is well known to deliberately transmit inaccurate information, but if Ofcom doesn’t force them to correct it, what is the point of Ofcom?
There was a time when the BBC was world renowned as a source of accurate information but in the last 20 years due to incompetent management, which obviously continues, that reputation is completely lost.
Ivermectin works. Has done for 40 years.
The ‘vaccines’ haven’t been around for 40 weeks. First guy jagged was on the 8th December 2020.
Mike Yeadon was right, this is the most treatable respiratory virus ever.
It should be as plain as can be; this was never about preventing, treating or saving lives. This WAS/IS about big govt deals, bigger state, less freedoms and the bringing about of ID cards and cashless society leading to a one world state!
You may think this mad, just google how many times One Wold Government has been uttered since this all began. Even Gordon Brown is still at this.
Tony Blair is the devil and should be cast out of any decent society.
Bliar – the embodiment of evil.
BBC
Honesty
Listen to Dr Pierre Kory, a US lung/ICU specialist on Ivermectin: https://open.spotify.com/episode/7uVXKgE6eLJKMXkETwcw0D?si=mWC9M17CRFakqbyLetDCIw&nd=1
I’m generally an admirer of Tim Harford so I was shocked to read this item. I follow Ivermectin matters carefully as I take it weekly as a prophylactic, so I listened to it. I hoped that Tim would examine the evidence in a balanced way, but (as the critique says) what he actually did was interview Australian epidemiologist Gideon Meyerowitz-Katz who had already made his views very clear through his blog (June 23). GM-K is a relatively junior figure academically and I can only imagine he was chosen because his views are what the programme had decided to present. Tim says that “in certain corners of the internet … it (Ivermectin) has passionate proponents ranging from a few scientists to borderline conspiracy theorists” but doesn’t mention that the “few scientists” include medical giants such as Professor Thomas Borody, top clinicians such as Dr Pierre Kory (USA), and top academics such as Dr Tess Lawrie (UK), who all completely disagree with him.
Propaganda, pure and simple.
I would like to follow the Pierre Kory i MASS protocol but don’t know how to get it in the UK – any tips please?
Has anyone complained to the BBC? I understand this precedes any complaint to Ofcom
Long given up on the Beeb. RIP.
An opposing study…These tactics are used over and over again by the corporate industries that are to make fortunes if the truth can be suppressed. This now what is leading us to disaster, not science as such, but science in the pay of corporations and their mouth pieces, the main stream media. The BBC is heavily involved.
Please Lockdown Sceptics, give this suppression of Ivermectin even more coverage. It is the reason we are in this mess. If the Ivermectin Protocol would be used there would be no need for vaccination. That is what it is about.
Grad.
So just been doing some light analysis of the BMGF donations spreadsheet (downloadable from their website) and since 2006 the BBC has been awarded about $4M each year. Not shed loads these days, but probably just enough to keep them sweet.
Has anyone found a reliable source to buy genuine ivermectin? Thanks in advance!