On many issues – lockdowns, Net Zero, free speech, wokery, to name a few – the Daily Sceptic and Spiked are usually on the same page. Links to its articles frequently appear in our bulletins. However, one area where, since early 2021, we have diverged sharply is on Covid vaccines. At TDS we have maintained a sceptical guard against the often overhyped claims of safety and efficacy put out by Government and other sources. Articles questioning them – often by experts in the field – have become part of our standard fare. Spiked, on the other hand, has stuck firmly to its pro-vaccine position. Not a single article questioning the Government line on vaccine safety and efficacy has ever, to my knowledge, graced its pages – though despite this, to its credit, it has (mostly) maintained a firm line against vaccine coercion.
Rarely has this difference been so apparent as in a piece this week by Deputy Editor Fraser Myers that can only be described as a brutal polemic against Andrew Bridgen, the U.K. Member of Parliament who has been vocal in his criticism of the Covid vaccines and was last month kicked out of the Conservative Party.
The article, titled ‘The delusions of Andrew Bridgen‘ and setting the dismissive tone with its opening line, “It can be tempting to ignore the antivax conspiracy theorists”, contains many errors of fact, as well as misrepresentations. Many readers, I imagine, will be left wondering why a website that they read for viewpoints not found in the mainstream seems unwilling to countenance the possibility that the Government’s line on the vaccines might – just might – be skewed by the vested interest it has in claiming the vaccine rollout as a big success, or that all the independent experts who have stuck their heads above the parapet to urge caution might – just might – be saying something worth listening to.
Well, be that as it may, what we have instead is Myers’ attack on one of the few MPs raising these issues that are clearly of some concern to a number of his constituents and the medical experts he’s in contact with. Perhaps it would have been better if Myers had ignored him. But seeing as he didn’t, and in the spirit of rational debate rather than name-calling, I will endeavour to respond to Myers’s characterisation of him as an “antivax conspiracy theorist”.
One of the difficulties in responding, though, is that not all of Myers’s claims are backed up with sources or evidence. This makes it hard to know what he’s basing his statements on, or even at times what he’s referring to. For instance, he mentions a “now-infamous Westminster Hall debate last December” in which Bridgen “reeled off a list of academic papers, citations and statistics, all purporting to show that the vaccines are doing more harm than good (much of it based on misinterpretations or perhaps misrepresentations of the data)”.
But there was no Westminster Hall debate on vaccines in December 2022 (though there had been several in previous months). Rather, on December 13th there was a House of Commons debate on vaccine harms, led by Andrew Bridgen, and presumably it is this that Myers is referring to. Exactly why he deems this debate to be “now-infamous” is unclear, as is why he describes Bridgen’s citations as being “based on misinterpretations or perhaps misrepresentations of the data”.
Myers clearly regards Bridgen’s claim that the mRNA vaccines may be doing more harm than good to be nonsense, but in fact it is well-supported by evidence. For instance, British Medical Journal Editor Dr. Peter Doshi along with Dr. Joseph Fraiman and colleagues examined the data from the vaccine clinical trials and found that, compared to controls, the Pfizer and Moderna mRNA COVID-19 vaccines were associated with an increased risk of serious adverse events of 10.1 events per 10,000 vaccinated for Pfizer and 15.1 events per 10,000 vaccinated for Moderna. When combined, the mRNA vaccines were associated with an increased risk of serious adverse events of 12.5 per 10,000 vaccinated, or 1 in 800. The authors note that these adverse event rates were considerably higher than the observed reductions in COVID-19-related hospitalisation rates, meaning the findings imply that among trial participants the vaccines were doing more harm than good.
Similarly, Dr. Kevin Bardosh and colleagues – hailing from the Universities of Harvard, Oxford, Johns Hopkins, Edinburgh and Washington, among others – found that for every COVID-19 hospitalisation prevented by boosters in previously uninfected young adults, 18 to 98 serious adverse events occurred, including 1.5 to 4.6 cases of booster-associated myocarditis in males. That’s more harm than good, at least for healthy young adults.
Does Myers deem Bridgen to be misinterpreting or misrepresenting these studies, or does he think these studies are themselves misinterpreting or misrepresenting the data? He doesn’t tell us.
Myers’s next objection is to Bridgen calling the vaccines “experimental gene therapy”. He writes:
Bridgen refers to the Pfizer-BioNTech mRNA jab as “experimental gene therapy”. This technology is certainly novel. Rather than using a neutralised version of an infection or a close cousin, the mRNA vaccines deliver instructions to human cells which induce an immune response. The successful deployment of mRNA in the Pfizer and Moderna Covid vaccines marked a major scientific breakthrough. But these vaccines are not ‘experimental’, as they have gone through clinical trials. Nor are they ‘gene therapy’, as they make no changes whatsoever to a patient’s DNA.
What Myers is overlooking here is that while the vaccines were approved for use under an emergency provision, the Phase 3 trials were still some years from completion. An open letter from more than 60 doctors and scientists to the MHRA in May 2021 spelled this out. They wrote:
All Phase 3 COVID-19 vaccine trials are ongoing and not due to conclude until late 2022/early 2023. The vaccines are, therefore, currently experimental with only limited short-term and no long-term adult safety data available. (emphasis added)
It is also of significance that the products were tested only under the less-stringent safety protocols for vaccines, not under the more-stringent requirements for novel genetic products, as the HART group explained in October 2022:
The U.K. drug regulator, the MHRA, did not carry out the toxicity, biodistribution and pharmacokinetics studies that are required of new drugs because of the political pressure to approve. However, nearly two years have passed since then and the MHRA has not set a deadline for the pharmaceutical companies to provide these data. The MHRA allowed the treatments to be presented as vaccines like any other when they are a novel class of agents, never before approved for human use despite the technology being around for decades (mostly because they have been dangerous and ineffective in previous human trials).
Myers’s claim that the vaccines are not ‘gene therapy’ because “they make no changes whatsoever to a patient’s DNA” misses the fact that from a regulatory point of view gene therapy products include not only those which alter DNA but also those which “alter the biological properties of living cells“.
This is why Moderna’s November 2018 Securities and Exchange Commission (SEC) registration statement says that its “mRNA [technology] is considered a gene therapy product by the FDA”.
Likewise, the September 2019 BioNTech SEC Registration notes that “[In] the United States, and in the European Union, mRNA therapies have been classified as gene therapy medicinal products”.
Myers is wrong: mRNA vaccines are classed as gene therapy products.
A particularly odd point in Myers’s article is when he says that Bridgen is “inconsistent” because he claims not to be opposed to vaccines in general, “only the ‘experimental gene therapy’ mRNA variety”. Myers notes that Bridgen regrets taking two doses of the AstraZeneca jab, which he points out “is not an mRNA vaccine (it uses a chimpanzee adenovirus to induce immunity to Covid)”. He adds: “When a BBC employee reportedly died following complications from the AstraZeneca vaccine, Bridgen blamed it on ‘experimental treatments‘.”
Leaving aside the reference to the BBC employee (presumably Lisa Shaw) “reportedly” dying from the AstraZeneca vaccine (Shaw’s death wasn’t merely “reported” as such, it was found by the coroner to be so), Myers here appears to be oblivious to the fact that the adenovirus vector vaccines also involve using genetic material (in their case DNA) to ‘reprogramme’ cells to make SARS-CoV-2 spike protein. His description implies that the chimpanzee adenovirus induces immunity to Covid directly. But in fact the adenovirus is just a vector or carrier, like a box, into which has been inserted the DNA encoding for the spike protein. The adenovirus vector is the vaccine’s way of getting the genetic code into the cells. This is no less “altering the biological properties of living cells” and thus a gene therapy product than the mRNA vaccines, and Bridgen is right to place them under the same umbrella.
Lastly, Myers gets onto the frequency of vaccine injuries. “Potential” vaccine harms like myocarditis and blood-clotting are “incredibly rare”, he says, quoting ONS data showing that by December 2022 “just 47 deaths in England and Wales where the underlying cause was a Covid vaccine” were recorded. Gotcha! Except, of course, in the censorious climate that prevailed during the pandemic doctors registering deaths would be very reluctant to identify a vaccine as the underlying cause of death without some strong grounds for certainty such as an autopsy. Much safer just to write the condition that was responsible for the death, rather than speculating on the role of the vaccine in inducing it. A more realistic estimate of reported vaccine deaths comes from the MHRA’s Yellow Card adverse event reporting scheme, which has logged around 2,500 U.K. deaths. These are all deaths which those who filed the report (mostly medics and healthcare practitioners) suspect were due to the vaccine that the deceased had recently received.
Myers has a few words to say about the Yellow Card scheme. He accepts that by November 2022 “the MHRA had received and analysed nearly 178,000 such cards for the Pfizer vaccines, 247,000 for the AstraZeneca jab and 47,000 linked to Moderna”. But while these “may sound like large numbers”, he says, “we shouldn’t forget the size of the vaccinated cohort – the U.K. has handed out more than 151 million doses of vaccine and has double-vaccinated almost nine in 10 residents”. Let’s leave aside whether 90% of the population has really been vaccinated (more realistic estimates from polls and the NIMS database suggest it’s more like 75% of adults who’ve had at least one dose). The key point is that Myers doesn’t offer any comparison data to tell us whether 472,000 Yellow Cards for 151 million doses is high or low, worrying or normal. Similar figures for the U.S. indicate that the reported vaccine fatality rate is still over 20 times higher for Covid vaccines than it is for flu vaccines, even taking into account the total number of doses distributed. The same data also indicate there has not been any great degree of over-reporting during the pandemic as there was no increase in death reports linked to other (non-Covid) vaccines. In the U.K., the reporting rate for non-COVID-19 Yellow Cards actually fell by 16% from 2020 to 2021.
Myers states that “the overwhelming majority of these reports relate to reactions at the injection site or include things like sore arms, dizziness, nausea, headaches and fatigues”. This is true, and I don’t believe anyone claims otherwise, although Myers writes that “for Bridgen every Yellow Card is to be taken as evidence of serious vaccine injury”, though, again, no source is provided for this. He then quotes Bridgen saying that Yellow Card reporting represents “only 10% of the true rate of serious adverse events”, which seems to contradict his claim as Bridgen refers here to serious adverse events, suggesting he is distinguishing serious and non-serious events and not, as Myers implies, conflating them.
Myers does not dispute the claim about 90% under-reporting, which may be because it is on the MHRA website. It states: “It is estimated that only 10% of serious reactions and between 2-4% of non-serious reactions are reported.” However, it’s worth noting that MHRA has argued that this 10% estimate doesn’t apply to the Covid vaccines owing to the increased awareness of the scheme, though we have seen that that is not borne out in the reporting rate for other vaccines.
But we don’t really need to guess about this stuff as many governments carry out active monitoring via surveys of vaccinated people. The Israeli Government’s survey, for instance, found that 0.3% of vaccinated people (1 in 333) reported being hospitalised as a result of their first Covid booster, while a U.S. CDC survey found 0.9% of vaccinated people (1 in 111) reported seeking medical care as a result of their vaccination. A vaccine monitoring app in Germany found that 0.3% of vaccine recipients reported at least one serious adverse reaction to the first dose of the vaccine. The MHRA has never published the U.K. version of these data. A comparison of the Israeli active monitoring rate (from the survey) to the passive monitoring rate (from VAERS) showed that the true number of people hospitalised following their vaccination was 126 times higher than the number who reported it to VAERS, i.e., less than 1% of those who according to the survey were hospitalised following their vaccine reported it to VAERS. Other under-reporting rates in the Israeli survey (see examples in table below) were even higher, making Bridgen’s (and the MHRA’s) 10% estimate look very conservative. Note that these figures don’t have a control group for comparison to allow for incidental events.
If 0.3% of people who receive each dose of a Covid vaccine are hospitalised with a serious adverse reaction, as per the Government surveys, then after 151 million doses there would be around 450,000 hospitalisations following vaccination. It really is that many, because 0.3% of 151 million is still a big number.
Myers concludes: “[Anti-vax] conspiracy theories corrode reason, democracy and humanism. We cannot allow them to fester unchallenged.”
I think it’s fair to say, if Myers is worried about the corrosion of reason, he needs to start somewhere closer to home.
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Guardian. Says it all.
The Graniad is always first for fakenews.
I could respond to your “Graniad” with my “Grannyad” but would be invoking Muphrey’s Law.
“anyone who disagrees does not care about society or equality”
Well I am not at all sure I care about society or equality, certainly much less than I care for myself and my immediate family. I suppose I care about society and equality in so far as those things affect my own quality of life. I am afraid I am now very wary of anyone who claims to altruistically care about society and equality to the detriment of their own wellbeing, especially when that “caring” involves poking their nose into my business/screwing up normal human life for everyone.
Exactly. ‘Society’ stopped giving a chuff about me a long time ago, and me about it.
Just pure inane sophistry – ‘does not care about society or equality’ is meaningless without context. The context is that the old and frail can be protected, but not by lockdowns and nonsense restrictions but by investment in their care and support. Just lost a good friend this week – end of life and covid on his death certificate. The struggle we had in getting his needs met by the NHS was harrowing and he suffered needlessly. Did he die of covid? No; he caught it in hospital and was already seriously unwell. Sridhar and her ilk are the problem and the ones who do not care about society and equality as they have no idea of what that actually means and is.
World renowned ‘scientist’ Devi Sridhar slagging off other scientists in the Guardian. If she’s so sure of herself why doesn’t she write an academic paper? She could get Owen Jones and Piers Morgan to review it
I would be interested to know what her credentials are for holding forth on science. I wonder if she can define what a woman is.
I daresay she’s a top-notch academic, even if an American who’s beguiled Caviar Sturgeon, but she knows sweet FA about that on which she seeks to domineer and pontificate. As with so many of these people now rewriting and, to a tiny degree recanting, she is wholly deficient in both humanity and honesty.
A copper-bottomed creepy person, who I could imagine hanging around Biden and Fauci, if that role wasn’t already packed out with Devi clones.
If someone has to guilt trip people into agreeing with them, one can safely assume they have no real argument.
What if people do not place the lives of the vulnerable high on their list of priorities? The reality is, most of us (in truth: all of us) place the lives of those we hold nearest and dearest highest on the list of priorities. If there is someone vulnerable amongst them, then yes, we would set greater store by looking after the vulnerable, simply because it hits closer to home.
Looking after the vulnerable is a fine ideal, but it seems to imply that all priority should go to them, and no attention should be paid to those not deemed vulnerable. The non/less-vulnerable in society also need looking after lest they become vulnerable. And if the strong become vulnerable, who is left to look after the vulnerable? It is a simplistic notion stated by people who themselves probably couldn’t care less about anyone else, only proclaiming their love for mankind when necessary to fool gullible, sentimental people into giving them something they want, usually power and access to someone else’s money.
As for Shridhar – surely even an anthropologist should know that humans seldom wipe out viruses, that it tends to be the other way around? She really does make me think “follow the money”, who encouraged her to spout the zero covid nonsense?
“if you don’t agree with me then you don’t care about grannies” – its about the nadir of the scientific method and rigorous debate.
Kit Yates is a fraud – he/she/it doesn’t have a proper argument. If it did, then it would use it
I don’t agree with him – and he and his sort killed all the grannies anyway.
This is especially evil since lockdown did kill Granny and tortured those not immediately killed
Absolutely, but rather than just safely assume, one might need to rebut it as the pathetic ruse that it is.
“SARS-CoV-2 elimination, not mitigation, creates best outcomes for health, the economy, and civil liberties”
https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(21)00978-8/fulltext#%20
Devi Sridhar at her lying best
Some total Cnut should write a paper on tidal elimination.
No wonder she’s the go-to guru for Oberleutnant Krankie.
Kit Yates paper referenced above
“Despite the clear downsides, there is still a strong argument to suggest the first lockdown was necessary in order to save lives and to prevent the NHS from becoming even more overstretched than it eventually was. Modelling from Imperial College London suggested at the time that………” – no point reading further.
I seem to remember Unherd removing 400 comments (where comments are usually polite) when she was interviewed by Freddie Sayer in the summer of 2020. A remarkable number of people were already on to her – but she is a fragile thing.
1) she is not a scientist
2) she told children on Newsround that the Covid-19 vaccines are 100% safe, that children should have the vaccine to protect their parents, and that the benefits to children outweigh any risks
She should never show her face in public again. And be made to look at the photos of the dead and injured children every day and think about what she has done.
Why do you think left-leaning champions of equality would care about individual people? Shridhar would probably put them (the photos) in an album to boast about her achievments in this respect.
all her slaves will be equal.
She will just be more equal.
Retry as that’s really fundamental: The notion of human equality as a goal to achieve is fundamentally inhuman because it’s based on denying that humans are naturally unequal, ie, that individuals are actually individuals and valuable as such, instead of being faceless (worker) robots all cast from the same mould.
she puts photos of her dinner on her twitter feed
she has no background in any of this apart from being a friend of the clintons
she is self-promoted far beyond her limited abilities. a charlatan and a liar. her method of trying to get people on her side is to have a rainbow badge and be solidly on the left. there’s no way she knows what a woman is. it would alienate her retarded supporters
there’s no way she knows what a woman is
I’m pretty sure that she wouldn’t want to bed a self-declared trans-woman. That’s something other people are supposed to believe in.
No wonder she and Sturgeon are besties.
anyone who disagrees does not care about society or equality
I do care about society, just not about the kind of society Kit Yates would like to see our’s transformed to. And people are not equal. Claiming otherwise is denying their individuality and any value derived from that as this boils down to considering them nothing more than livestock. Less than livestock, actually, because non-human animals are supposed to have individual rights(!).
She looks like she has very long covid. Maybe she is just losing the argument.
Folks, you’ve really got to read and share this. For my money, it’s the most plausible explanation of the WEFs grand scheme that I’ve read, real food for thought. Endorsed by one Robert Malone too. https://rwmalonemd.substack.com/p/uncovering-the-corona-narrative?s=r
Only one word for Dr Malone WOW definitely food for thought.
Thank you Neil
Well good on DS and Will for putting this up. Sridhar is a horrible piece of work, the very definition of an oxygen thief.
Now how do Sridhar and Yates reverse ferret again when Billy’s new brew gets released?
Fortunately these pronouncements confirm that they are decidedly not worth the time of day and from here on their pronouncements are worthless.
At least Will provided a chuckle.
Cheers.
If I recall correctly, we’ve got a couple among us that have been ‘keeping a list’ of these people from the early days. I think it’s time to put all this together in a single page to never forget their names and roles.
“Sridhar was born and raised in Miami, Florida in an Indian family.
Born 1984, she is an American public health researcher, who is both professor and chair of global public health at the University of Edinburgh, Scotland.”
“Sajid Javid (born 1969) is a British politician who has been Secretary of State for health and Social Care since June 2021.
Born in Rochdale, Lancashire, to a British Pakistani family.”
“Mair Eluned Morgan, Baroness Morgan of Ely (born 16 February 1967) is a Welsh Labour politician serving as Minister for Health and Social Services in the Welsh Government since 2021.”
How do some of these thickos get these jobs?
Here’s a conundrum for you. Who’s the most loathsome out of Devi Sridhar, Nicola Sturgeon and Jacinda Ardern? I think we can safely say that, loathsome as she is, Sridhar has to come third, but for the life of me I cannot choose between Sturgeon and Ardern. These have to be the two most most revolting women in politics.
Since I posed the question, I’ll opt for Ardern, with Sturgeon a close second.
And for good measure, check out this nonentity. Apparently a former ‘Conservative,’ this deranged specimen embodies all that is dumb and wrong with contemporary culture and politics.
Whoever coined, and I paraphrase, ‘If women ran the world everything would be wonderful’ needs a dry slap. Ditto everyone who repeats it.
That drooling imbecile used to be my MP.
The electorate punished the Tories by electing a Labour MP in the by-election that followed her resignation because she hadn’t been made a minister.
“Mensch erroneously stated that Piers Morgan had written in his autobiography about conducting phone hacking while he was the editor of the Daily Mirror.When challenged on CNN by Morgan, Mensch cited the protection of parliamentary privilege and declined either to withdraw the allegation or to repeat it. She later apologised to Morgan, and stated that she had misread a newspaper report about his book.
Three days after the hearing, Mensch received an email that alleged, among other things, that she had taken drugs and danced while drunk with violinist Nigel Kennedy at a club in Birmingham in the 1990s. Mensch publicly released the email, stating that the allegations were “highly probable” but said that she regretted only that others had to see her dancing and that she would not be deterred from asking further questions about phone hacking. Members of the Parliamentary committee denounced the attempt to intimidate Mensch, who subsequently admitted in The Sunday Times that she had used class A drugs“
You poor souls. Did you all throw a party when the fruitcake emigrated to the US?
Didn’t the Greeks reckon there were three Harpies?
Ah yes, the female monsters of Greek mythology. I’m not sure it was strictly three, but yes, we have three harpies above, four including the lunatic in the attached screenshot.
Ardhern, because she’s always chomping at the bit.
Nipoleon would be equal second with, a glaringly omitted, Fond-of-Lying.
Dreary, disastrous Devi wouldn’t even make the podium, in lowly fourth.
Fair enough. Who am I to argue with you, my friend? I’ll take that.
Thanks, MR.
To be fair, all four of them make my skin crawl.
I know what you mean. Ghastly creatures.
The we is noteworthy here. So Mensch is now in the Ukraine and fighting? Somehow, I don’t reallty believe that.
Blimey, she’s a sandwich short…
I’m not a violent person but it would take
significant personal restraint not to repeatedly punch the utter c^%t Yates should I ever have the misfortune of being anywhere near him. What a contemptuous, snivelling little shit he is. As for Schrider, she’s a narcissist who just seeks out attention, however it comes. Any attention is good attention for a narcissist like her. Lacking in self awareness and empathy, she’s a vacuous void.
For God’s sake don’t hold back – just say what you really mean.
The long march through the institutions…
“A professor has called out Good Morning Britain after her full title was not shown on screen but her male counterpart’s was.
On the ticker displaying information about the guests speaking in a debate about coronavirus, professor of oncology Angus Dalgleish was labelled as such whereas professor Devi Sridhar, who is also the chair of global public health at Edinburgh University, was labelled as just Devi Sridhar.”
https://www.indy100.com/news/gmb-today-professor-devi-sridhar-b1940888
Don’t forget this purveyor of falsehoods: Dr Hilary Jones.
https://dailyexpose.uk/2021/07/12/dr-hilary-dangerous-lies-and-big-pharma-ties/
An excellent piece from citizenjournos.
https://citizenjournos.com/2021/11/17/devi-sridhar-gets-it-wrong-again/
“This all points to Devi not being about the truth and facts but being all about the narrative and agenda.”
We live in a world where what is normal is defined as extreme and what is extreme is defined a normal.
Julia Hartley-Brewer challenges Rishi Sunak: ‘Define what a woman is?’
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RpDQpWiPbB4
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Legend has it Sturgeon’s husband walked into a pub one night looking sad. The barman asked him what he was having, and he replied, Oh, just a beer.’ The barman said, ‘What’s wrong, big man?’ Scotland’s male first lady replied, ‘My wife and I got into a fight, and she said she wouldn’t talk to me for a month.’ The man behind the jump said, ‘Aye? So what’s wrong with that?’ And he replied, ‘The month is up tonight.’
Nicola in her usual jaunty manner, says to the chauffeur :
“You get out and check – you were driving.”
The chauffeur gets out, checks and reports that the animal is dead.
“You were driving, go and tell the farmer,” says Nicola, ”I can’t afford to be blamed for anything.”
The chauffeur walks up the drive to the farmhouse and returns five hours later totally plastered, his hair ruffled and with a big grin on his face.
“My God, what happened to you ?” asks Nicola.
The chauffeur replies : ” When I got there, the farmer opened his best bottle of single malt whisky, the wife gave me a slap-up meal and the daughter made love to me.”
“What on earth did you say?” asks Nicola.
“I knocked on the door and when it was answered, I said to them, I’m Nicola Sturgeon’s chauffeur and I’ve just killed the cow.”
I don’t normally do this, but:
Well, I like fax, not vax!
My favourite picture of Devi. That poor frightened little rabbit look. Just before getting boostered. Lovely
Writing in the Guardian yesterday, Devi Sridhar asks: “Why can’t some scientists just admit they were wrong about Covid?”
reminds me of that meme whereby after taking 1,2 and 3 jabs the person looks at the unjabbed and says “just die already”
This re writing of history while looking stupid at the moment, is potentially going to get easier with tech advancing and for example paper book printing falling, you can just imagine a future whereby all news is digital and the unflattering narrative is erased for a new one.
Green also notes that Independent SAGE member Kit Yates claimed in the British Medical Journal this week that lockdowns were necessary to protect the NHS and vulnerable members of society. Those who disagree with this, he argues, do not
“place the lives of the most vulnerable high on their list of priorities” or “place a high worth on the long term health of their population”
yes but restrictions have prevented precisely F*** all, I know people who are dying and a person who has passed because they did not recieve any treatment for 2 plus years.
Sadly there will be many more stories like this
Slightly OT, but speaking of propaganda and utter bollocks, please tell me this isn’t Ukranian officials themselves taking a video game and claiming it’s actually happening in Ukraine, with the ‘heroes,’ naturally, being the Ukranians.
https://youtu.be/gG1prld0bAA
To me, DS looks like one of those folks who has never found any real joy in anything. Get her a proper meal with a lovely pudding and make her go for a walk on the beach in the sun.
There’s a lampost with her name on it…
I am angry who do these horrible people think they are these are our lives, and we did not elect these fascists to control our lives
lockdowns simply do not work if they did Peru and others would not have done so bad and as for masks for a virus with a 0000.01 particles how would a mask stop them a bit like a chained wall stopping mosquitoes,
out today first work this morning crowded bus quite a few masked, this is disappointing so many still believe the daily propaganda masks work , and a few businesses near me Starbucks, cafe Nero , and quite a few where sitting wearing masks in Starbucks,
they are evil these people do not care about normal working class people or single mums on benefits they do not exist in their world .
lockdown hardly affected these people as they never had to worry about losing income, or not being able to work and do not have children,
just so angry these people are still around could they not resign in late 2020 , Boris sturgeon and Drakeford they are all a disgrace,
Yet any inquiry will probably not happen, so even if it does it probably will be in about 30 Years time long after some have died , like the vaccine it has so far not worked it cannot stop variants, or the transmission
and thousands are in hospital double jabbed and triple jabbed yet it works , so it will be that way no one at least among work colleagues family aunt , mother uncle actually questions it not working and cannot connect the dots, so it will go on ,
I am angry about our cowardly public who most young old , wear a mask outside watch the BBC , Sky News take a experimental genre therapy those under 43 as over 40 with no children it is neigh impossible to get pregnant, and still some I know mostly told me they took it to not miss out on doing normal things going clubbing seeing family , hugging friends and going aboard
I asked one colleague single just broke up with her boyfriend in June 2021 have you had the vaccine they said they had two , why I asked why they had it for any particular reason they looked slim no underlying health issues no obesity or diabetes in their family, simply they could not answer to go aboard and would not be able to they also mentioned to get their freedoms back ,
You could not make it up .
Devi Sridhar has the same success in presenting her scientific credentials as the Italy mens football team has in qualifying for the last and next football world cups.
Chris Whitty the bastard who pays these horrible people to say such things said we will have more Covid waves, and That we will have more waves for three Years I hate this lot, can they must be hung oh much mental health damage will they wreck in our lives .
Absolutely agree. However, even Toby Green falls into the Care House trap, being shocked that 40% of Covid deaths occurred in them. Has he ever visited a care home? They’re literally full of people who are going to die soon, even outwith a pandemic . A happy hunting ground for a virus like SARS -COV2. The idea that you can isolate such people and (crucially) their carers is a fantasy, and it is dishonest to pretend otherwise.
From the CBI website: “Devi Sridhar is a Professor at the University of Edinburgh where she holds a Personal Chair in Global Public Health. She is Founding Director of the Global Health Governance Programme and holds a Wellcome Trust Investigator Award.”
Global Public Health, Global Health Governance and Wellcome Trust tells you all you need to know about this corrupt piece of shit and who she’s really working for.
Frail and elderly and vulnerable. How many did we let die alone, devoid of love and attention.
“We let them die alone”. I can’t believe we did this.
All involved, Gov, medics, care givers and to a large degree relatives are all responsible.
As far as I’m concerned the country that nurtured me and to which I owe allegiance died in March 2020. And will never recover to be the same again.
These people should be locked up for the damage they have caused to the health and well being of the nation. Zero Covid policy and cloud cuckoo land have a degree of similarity. People were ignored that knew this wouldn’t work about 2 years ago. The knowledge in public health they have cane be summed up in one word – none. The evidence in how bad they got it wrong is well publicised
Anthropologist, therefore Covid expert. Got it.