Pro-mask crusader Professor Trish Greenhalgh recently plumbed new depths of distortion and misinformation in her relentless mission to force humankind to hide their faces behind strips of cloth or plastic. In a nine-minute interview with Rachel Burden on BBC Radio 5 Live on January 4th 2023, Greenhalgh (Professor of Primary Health Care Sciences at the University of Oxford) starkly revealed much that is awry with the official wear-a-mask narrative. Indeed, the untruths were so blatant that the official ‘fact checkers’ intervened.
To convey the flavour of Greenhalgh’s warped take on the science of masks in reducing viral transmission, here is a transcript of part of the interview:
Rachel Burden: What is the evidence that masks reduce spread, because this is a thing that a lot of our listeners have a real problem with?
Trish Greenhalgh: It’s got to reduce spread, hasn’t it… there’s absolutely no doubt that the virus can’t get through the holes in the mask.
RB: Can you point to scientific data to show this?
TG: Yes, absolutely… there are many studies that show if people are wearing a mask, if I’m wearing a mask and you’re wearing a mask, the chance of me passing on the virus to you goes down dramatically to about 2% of what it was if neither of us was wearing a mask. So the idea that masks don’t work is a sort of meme; it’s disinformation. … Over time, [mask wearing] is going to bring the virus under control very quickly.
If you go back to when we introduced mask mandates first – I think it was back in June/July 2020 – cases were going up very, very rapidly and then the mask mandate brought them under control, oh, within weeks, within a couple of weeks.
RB: Did it? Was it just the mask mandate? Was it not other factors at play?
TG: Of course it was other factors at play. This is a mathematical thing… you have to feed all that data into a computer… the science is really clear… [If you’re wearing a mask] you’re much less likely to catch the virus from the air.
Let us highlight, and respond to, a few hotspots in her distorted rhetoric:
1. “It’s got to reduce spread, hasn’t it“
This seems to be based on a perverse kind of reasoning, one that assumes that if something sounds plausible it must be true. With regards to COVID-19, Greenhalgh’s thought process seems to follow the sequence of: (a) SARS-CoV-2 is a respiratory virus spread via the breath; (b) we breathe through the nose and mouth; (c) masks provide a physical barrier that covers the nose and mouth; (d) therefore mask wearing must reduce viral transmission. This bears little resemblance to the scientific method, an approach based on the generation of specific and testable predictions (hypotheses) followed by relevant data collection that will either support, or refute, the prediction.
Greenhalgh offered clues as to her own version of science back in 2020 when she asserted that the rigorous search for empirical evidence was the “enemy of good policy“. In her science-lite world, she seems to be championing an approach we have witnessed all too often during the Covid era: implement a policy that – for ulterior reasons – is desirable to those in power, and then, as an afterthought, try to find evidence to support it.
2. “there’s absolutely no doubt that the virus can’t get through the holes in the mask“
Really? Greenhalgh’s claim is akin to suggesting that a tennis net can prevent grains of sand falling through it.
The SARS-CoV-2 virus is spread mainly via microscopic particles that are far too small for cloth and plastic (surgical) masks to act as an effective barrier. Despite concerted attempts to censor their views, expert scientists have asserted that the type of masks worn by the general public in the community contain perforations that are far too big to act as a viral blockade and therefore “offer zero protection”. Furthermore, one study concluded that cloth face coverings can amplify the spread of infectious particles by acting as a “microniser“, transforming large droplets – which would ordinarily fall to the ground close to the person – into smaller, truly airborne ones.
3. “there are many studies that show if people are wearing a mask, if I’m wearing a mask and you’re wearing a mask, the chance of me passing on the virus to you goes down dramatically to about 2% of what it was if neither of us was wearing a mask“
Computer-modelling alert! We can all recall the catastrophic legacy of epidemiologist Professor Neil Ferguson and his wildly inaccurate predictions that COVID-19 would kill 2.2 million Americans and 500,000 British citizens – astrological prophecies that spooked Western governments into unprecedented restrictions that caused huge collateral damage. It seems that Greenhalgh is relying on similar computer modelling methods to justify her extreme pro-mask views.
Resorting to modelling to predict what will happen within complex human systems is problematic in many ways. One of the major flaws is its sensitivity to initial assumptions, which then leads to circular reasoning. So if one starts with the (highly dubious) premise that masks act as an effective viral barrier and feed this into a computer model as a given, it is inevitable that the ‘prediction’ will be that face coverings will provide significant benefits – 98% protection in Greenhalgh’s fantasy world.
Dame Ruth May (England’s Chief Nursing Officer) makes the same error in her recent attempt to defend masking in hospital settings. What Greenhalgh and May conveniently ignore is the wealth of more robust scientific evidence that concludes that masks achieve no meaningful reduction in the levels of viral transmission.
4. “So the idea that masks don’t work is a sort of meme; it’s disinformation“
Oh the irony! An abundance of empirical evidence now testifies to the ineffectiveness of masking healthy people. For example, there are: randomised controlled trials (here, here and here); real-world studies (here, here, here and here); and comprehensive literature reviews (here, here and here). Only in Greenhalgh’s surreal world could this established body of knowledge be seen as a disinformation meme.
5. “If you go back to when we introduced mask mandates first – I think it was back in June/July 2020 – cases were going up very, very rapidly and then the mask mandate brought them under control, oh, within weeks, within a couple of weeks“
This is the whopper of all whoppers. Indeed, this assertion was so blatantly untrue that it was corrected by the official ‘fact checkers’ – one of the rare occasions that these guardians of the official narrative have challenged one of their own.
As succinctly described by Dr. David Paton (Professor of Economics at Nottingham University), when the mask mandate of July 24th 2020 was introduced, Covid cases were rising slowly, only to sharply accelerate about five weeks later – so the reality could not be more at odds with Greenhalgh’s version.
6. “This is a mathematical thing… you have to feed all that data into a computer… the science is really clear“
A further reference to the surreal world of computer modelling (see point 3, above).
Why would Professor Greenhalgh, a healthcare expert, espouse such glaring distortions about the effectiveness of masks in preventing viral transmission? Is she a victim of the relentless fear propagation, orchestrated by the behavioural-science ‘nudgers’, to the extent that her terror of infection has compromised her scientific faculties? Or has her affinity with collectivist ideology – promoting top-down control of the populace – led her to conclude that, though ineffectual, mass-masking (a powerful weapon for levering compliance with the state’s diktats) can be justified for the long-term greater good? Perhaps time will reveal the true reason why she craves for us all to mask up.
Finally – given the glaring inaccuracies – I submitted a formal complaint to the BBC, requesting that the Radio 5-Live presenter (Rachel Burden) should draw Greenhalgh’s misinformation to the attention of her listeners so as to put the record straight. Alas, the BBC has declined to do so; some things never change.
Dr. Gary Sidley is a retired NHS consultant clinical psychologist and a co-founder of the Smile Free campaign.
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Love that vote down. More courageous soldiering from 77th Brigade.
the 77th Brigade were the only true sceptics, the rest just blindly followed the narrative, like lemmings, as you are doing.
Interesting paper.
Thanks for the link
What a complete and utter mess this country is. The current PM has embarrassed himself and the rest of us and the next leader is a choice between a moron who will plunge us even further into debt and bloat the public sector yet more, or a smirking, smarmy, lithping, greasy immigrant who has already demonstrated utter disdain for three million self-employed in a pandemic by writing them off whilst showering ten million “better” people with free money to get by.
How has it got to this?
Bliar, Brown, Cameron, May, Bozo! Need I say more?
Hanging?
Someone gave you a down-vote?! The truth must hurt….
Bliar in his bath…
With a toaster?
Make it a four-slice, just to make sure.
Davos set common purpose, all in lockstep.
Who are the down voting cunts?
I am one of the ‘downvoting cunts’. I downvoted it for this: ‘greasy immigrant’. I really don’t this kind of thing helps us at all.
Hes not British. British is Beer, bacon sarnies and punchups on a rowdy saturday night.
the currymuncher has never done any of those great British traits and i therefore do not trust where his loyalty lies
“British is Beer, bacon sarnies and punchups on a rowdy saturday night.”
Did you have a bad experience on a Saturday night?
Actually don’t bother answering, I don’t give a fuck.
Oh well, could be gel in his hair, or the parties got out of hand (see: There’s Something About Mary)
No, that is not THE lesson. That is merely A lesson. THE lesson is that the rules only ever apply to us. The laws are made for us. The boundaries are set for us. They do not have rules, or laws, or boundaries. Stop thinking any of these people represent you. Stop thinking that these people have any sort of interest that aligns with ours. Stop thinking that us and them are in this together. They want you to think that they’re just like you, and that those who are against them are also against you. Stop being their puppet.
The biggest evil in this world is government control. Stop giving them power.
It’s a BIG club and you aren’t in it.
I would argue that the biggest evil in the world is the Evil that controls our governments, not merely government control.
Government control is what makes that evil. The more control governments have over our lives, the more that control will be abused.
So, “The Rules were wong” and “the pubic is rightly indignant”.
Anyone ever check these articles, I wonder (and, OK, the ‘wong’ could be an anti-Chinese in-joke {Tee Hee}).
Well, all this happened because of the China-virus, and no one can deny it now. Oh, and you mite wont to chack youre speling….
Actually, I did, essentially immediately replace my typo! I would point out also that I am just putting in a comment rather than an article.
LOL! Only joking… and I did give you an up-vote.
Is that the ‘China-virus’ funded by US $$$s?
Yup. Circumventing a moratorium placed on GoF research.
The same. Good to have allies, ain’t it?
I think Oz and Kiwi currencies and EU plus a bit of the GBP were sent and spent in wuhan.
thats one of the reasons they tried to keep the lab leak off the list of how this happened.
we all paid for the ricemunchers to do the gain of function research.
if that gets out its not just the CCP who will be in trouble.
The lesson as far as I’m concerned is we need to bring back the wonderful old English custom of heads on pikestaffs on Tower Bridge as an encouragement to all to do the right thing. You know, the heads would rot away, so they would have to encase them in like an iron cage, well, maybe we could do something a little more fancy and sciencey, but the underlying idea, I think, is terrific. Forget resigning and all that guff. Let’s have heads on pikestaffs. I’m pretty sure things would get back nice and tidy pretty quickly once we started seeing those bulging eyes lolling around up there.
Yes, so true – but, of course, it would be our heads up there!
The staged stunt outside Downing street with all the people wearing Boris masks was organised by a social media ‘influencer’ called ‘Jaackmaate’ who has previously said absolutely nothing about the covid restriction – another organ grinders monkey.
A Channel 4 ‘journalist’ called Liz Bates apparently spotted them, this is in the MSM stories (she just happened to be passing! how lucky). She happens to be the former communications officer for a Labour MP called John Healey who is Shadow Secretary of State for Defence.
Liz Bates also just happens to be one of the journalist who helped finish Jeremy Corbyns Labour reign with the antisemitism claims. Looks like she is taking part in another regime change plot.
The price of freedom is eternal vigilance. I saw the jape and thought it amusing, failing in my usual habit of asking myself who staged the event and how it got into the media.
The lesson being that when the entire world runs on propaganda, some of it will always get through. |One good example of that is the blanket acceptance, by nearly all, of the statement that vaccines were never intended to stop infections, but only serious disease. You have only to read the Pfizer trial to realise that is BS.
As soon as people agreed to locking themselves at home and voluntarily closed their businesses – freedom ended. The thugs in uniform who took it on themselves to enforce the restrictions of the puppet masters are the real problem at the end of the day. Without the threat of violence and punishment the whole scam would have never got going.
Boris Johnson didn’t make us do anything, the Order Followers and psychological conditioning did.The underlying problem will remain the same under any regime as most people dislike personal responsibility and settle for the master / slave system.
It seems clear that Whitehall and Westminster are amongst the last outposts of 1980’s work booze culture. Back in those days, no-one thought much about have several pints at lunch and coming back to the office to carry on with your work, or having heavy ‘end of day’ booze ups before staggering home. I thought it had largely disappeared, but it appears live and well after all. Or is it just a London thing now..?
I loved those days – I had fun and freedom and I worked all the better for it.
Definitely how life was lived in the 1970s….
I remember when I went to work with a cool because I was afraid to take time off.
As a spark boozing at lunch was a no no but we all got pissed at knock off.
One of the useful things that I learned in the first week at university, living away from home for the first time, was that even one pint of beer at lunchtime would send me to sleep, and give me a hangover on waking up, so like a boring fart (which I was called many times) I always declined to drink at lunchtime, unless it was alright that the rest of the day was to be written off, in which case it was ok, which I also learned in my first week at university.
‘Wong’
Bit racist old chap
Wight
Ah Boris, if you’d gone down the Swedish route you wouldn’t be in the shit you’re in now
Dan Rosenfield the Downing Street Chief of Staff is the son in law of Alex Brummer who is City Editor for the Daily Mail and also writes propaganda for the Spectator and Jewish Chronicle. I am sure they never talk! (this information is even on Wikipedia it is that easy to find!) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dan_Rosenfield
Media manipulating the public into regime change for their masters to have Kier Starmer in ‘charge’. All the politicians of all parties and the controlled media have a common aim of creating a technocratic police state, they don’t care who is notionally in power as long as the end ‘solution’ is reached. Time to wake people up before it is too late.
I think when the useless queen dies there’ll be a coordinated effort to ditch the monarchy and go for an elected, puppet president, and they might get it too. I mean, who wants prick Charles as head of state?
Nor wee willie wanker
Just a wee heads up for the people appearing on Jeremy Vine, Today, LBC and numerous other MSM outlets, expressing their understandable anger and upset about relatives dying alone whilst people partied at No10.
The Jeremy Vines, Nick Robinsons, James O’Briens, Nick Ferraris etc etc do not give a flying fuck about what happened to your relatives, they are simply exploiting your tragic misfortune to further their agenda and bask in faux outrage.
When anyone tried to express the plight of their loved ones in the MSM prior to the latest revelations about Downing Street parties, the above great and good would have shut them down, simply shrugged their shoulders and reminded you that these rules were to “save lives” or “keep us all safe”…..of course now the disclosures are the main topic of news this has been grasped as the greatest virtue signalling opportunity yet by Vine et al yet.
The rules were mental….I fully expected the elites to break them….I also expected anyone with an ounce of common sense to break them…..the thing that has baffled me throughout is why we didn’t all ignore them.
I think people dying alone with loved one’s not allowed to visit is the saddest thing of all in this massive hoax; but apologies to all effected, I was also breaking the rules at the time.
Vine is a sanctimonious cunt and should be subject to a show trial when we get the time
Once this is all over, If no one else minds, I would like to apply for the the job of Public Executioner…..no relevant experience, but enthusiastic and willing to learn.
ps Unfortunately, I fit none of the “diversity” criteria.
Lol some Lez pac wimiz in a spac chariot pulling the lever init.
National lottery advert?
Regarding the diversity factor, you could try looking into your family tree or do the DNA check. I’ve been told that I have connections to the Mediterranean, although I’m not sure which side of it. In a job application I might be tempted to claim I’m part North African.
Thanks. I more meant the fact that I have the usual number and length of limbs as per British Standard, and have shied away from any transitioning to a different species or gender.
Disappointingly, my sexual preferences are of the “common garden variety”. Orlando Bloom and the like do nothing for me.
The above has seriously limited my ability to progress in the world of the Arts, media, public sector work, etc, etc
But I’m happy “in my own skin” as they say.
As long as you believe you’re a one legged dusky lesbian then we all can believe it too.
Not if I get there first!! Although having said that there might be too much work for one person.
For the greater good, obviously.
You forgot James Whale, the cancer ridden cunt who hopefully will not be with us much longer.
Here here
Perhaps I’m being very wicked but I’m beginning to believe that the Bozzer never had Covid in the first place.
All an illusion for psychological manipulation.
Highly likely. Bit like the saline they’ve had jabbed into them as ‘vaccine’. They even found a batch of it in Scotland!
and some also turned up somewhere in europe – branded to look identical to the toxic stuff for ordinary people
Yes it was discovered in France.
Any evidence ?
He was given something as a warning to do more for the global cause. The change in him before and after his apparent stint in the hands of RNHS was noticeable at the time.
I never did believe it (or at least not as bad as claimed) it was probably man flu & treated by mi5 nurses.
I thought that right from the off. He looked dreadful but I thought he had been removed from sight by his minders because he was struggling with the narrative. He was taken out of the public eye about 3 times, always because of ‘covid’
MI5 were telling him how it was going to be. Anybody who could frighten John Bindon would scare the shit out of the jellyfish cunt.
He was drying out .
he’s currently out of public eye – because relative has “covid” or positive test or somesuch
Didn’t he go in on Good Friday and come out on Easter? I have some distant recollection of some such thing.
Or the jab. Cue the downticker.
I’ve been wondering that too. It was all too convenient for the show. Either it was staged or he had been eating too much of his favourite cheese and his body objected to the abuse.
It isn’t just that the ‘rules are wrong’ but that those in positions of power – the politicians (of all hues), civil service medical and scientific ‘experts’ and managers and, it appears most scientists and clinicians, along with the shadowy billionairres and the WEF crowd – KNEW it was safe to mingle as normal even at the start of the pandemic.
This fact was ably pointed out by Neil Oliver during a (one of many excellent) monolgue on his Saturday evening show on GB News. So many of the ‘great and good’ completely ignore the rules they want us to follow as soon as they believe the cameras are off or that any pics won’t make their way to the general public.
Scared people don’t completely ignore rules they set supposedly to keep people from dying, all the while laughing and (often) boozing cheek to cheek.
You have to wonder whether most of them actually got jabbed with the ‘real McCoy’ rather than, say saline solution when they rolled up their sleeves for a on-camera jab.
Ruled by experts, who voted for that? The problem is the new religion, scientism, being indoctrinated in schools & career politicians infected with Davos groupthink.
Prince Andrew has not been removed as the President of the Covid Marshalls Association
They had a vote and they want him to stay as their leader
How dare you question a politician’s integrity, as if he would lie!
I’ve said from the first day, it is not right to take away one man’s freedom for another man’s safety (unless they’ve committed a crime).
There are two issues;
Another important issue highlighted by the pandemic is the belief (by politicians) that government has rights! NO government doesn’t have any “right” to do anything, we are governed by consent, government has a mandate not a right.
The big problem with democracy & liberal politics is that elected representatives have no accountability until the next election, there needs to be an external impartial process to prevent political overreach.
We no longer have rule of law, we are living in a fascist state.
Yes, human rights are an artificial construct just empty words on pieces of paper and are not rights at all. They can be denied by any law ( legislation) enacted by any government (politicians) and can be and are ignored whenever the government sees fit, we experienced this with the Coronavirus Act. Therefore a society based on human rights has no rights. Whereas inalienable rights can never be extinguished and are immutable, this is because inalienable rights are not permits bestowed on us by government. They are universal concepts of natural justice inherent to Natural or God’s law. This is why governments are so eager for us to place our faith in human rights.It enables them to tell us what is permitted. Inalienable rights are mentioned just once in the United Nations Universal Declaration of Human rights and are omitted entirely from the declaration itself.
I remember Farage broadcasting in the early days that this was intolerable for ordinary people – he deserves credit for not just being an entitled git.
I’m not entirely sure what the lessons are, but speaking as a boomer with all the apparently negative connotations that brings with it, I know that when I look at the black and white photographs of my parents and grandparents, and see the clearly visible and genuine austerity they lived with during the 40s, 50s and 60s, I ask myself how our once great nation has come to this, and what lies in store for as yet unborn generations. Anyway I wrote to the PM yesterday to express my displeasure. He won’t have received my letter yet, and I know it’s ill mannered to make it public, but I doubt if he cares.
What a superb letter.
Utterly brilliant! Thank you for sharing.
Excellent.
Top Draw ! A toppingly penned to the point excoriation.
“Drawer.”
Please.
Just one small point about Johnson thinking a BYOB party was a work event.
It strains credibility to suppose that a social invite sent to over 100 people would have been sent to an email address that the PM is personally monitoring. So, what he actually knew about that event before attending would depend entirely on what he was told be a staff member with responsibility for monitoring the PM’s general mailbox. I don’t find it probable that the PM saw the actual invitation personally, IMHO.
However, this is spot on! :
We didn’t need partygate to tell us lockdown was completely bollocks from the the start
Bozos survival or otherwise is of no consequence whatever. As one commenter wrote this morning, Daily Mail I believe,
“if Johnson is the frying pan Kier Starmer is the fire”.
They are all as bad as each other but some are slightly worse. Who would you rather spend an hour in the pub with discussing ways out of this quagmire, Boris Johnson or Kier Starmer?
Trick question since the answer is obviously Nigel Farage.
Even when we didn’t know the full nature of the disease, there was no sense in the mandates to remain indoors.
They could readily have told people to ‘be sensible’ about avoiding crowded areas outdoors but otherwise left them to get on with it.
IMO this is (yet another) good example of how you should never give people in authority any power other than what is essential — we gave them an inch and they decided to take a mile.
Three soccer players in the same team with heart lesions
Are they now routinely scanning players before they allow them to play? (presumably to prevent them collapsing on the pitch in full view of the public)
Afcon 2021: Gabon’s Pierre-Emerick Aubameyang out of game against Ghana with ‘heart lesions’ – BBC Sportv
Ah yes, but those lesions are a result of Covid, not of the vaccine – of course.
Football. Not soccer
association or Union?
Using drones, at taxpayer’s expense, to track citizens across the countryside was pure and utter thuggery. The sheer speed at which police across the UK and the world adopted Nazi attitudes and modes of operation is astounding. As soon as the COVID-19 plandemic had been initiated some police forces went full-blown Gestapo.
This should actually be investigated. In any group there will always be found to be a certain percentage of bully types, but Western police forces would be expected to weed out the majority of this kind during training. And they should never be promoted to a level where they can order citizens to be tracked in such a disgusting way.
There are reports in the United States that during the Obama administration that many army officers were replaced with those that would be more compliant and cooperative with the Globalist’s agenda. When you look at the way the US military hierarchy are now forcing the gene serums on their personnel, these reports ring of truth.
The Globalist’s COVID-19 plandemic was planned and prepared for years in advance, so it’s not a stretch of the imagination to think they would recruit compliant and cooperative types into police forces.
‘As Philippe Lemoine notes, “by focusing on their hypocrisy, we encourage the notion that the rules themselves were okay”.’
It is possible to ‘focus…on [the] hypocrisy’ and the fact that the draconian rules were not ‘okay’. What is so difficult to understand about this? Why do so many sceptics run a mile from the glaring double standard because they think it tacitly draws them into ‘agreement’ with the rules? Belt up.
It is morally imperative that we focus on the double standard because a) these bastards have killed and harmed countless citizens with the very decrees they flouted, and thus it is absolutely incumbent on us to shout this from the rooftops in honour of these fellow citizens, and b) it then gives us a springboard to a point of contact with the cultist, where we ask them why they think the tyrants flouted their own decrees. We point to the fact that these tinpot dictators had zero fear of this virus. By using this approach we hopefully get to have a good conversation.
This is not an either/or situation, and it is high time we stopped this silliness of running from one element because we think we might be seen to be endorsing the draconian rules.
Yes, the rules were wrong, but we should not forget that it is every citizens’s responsibility to use their common sense and hold government to account. A lot of the blame for this fiasco lies at the door of the 90% of the public who either complied like sheep or actively encouraged the insanity. Blame also lies at the door of the media and Big Tech who silenced the 10% that did try to speak out. Apart from any public enquiry, we need some big conversations about common sense and free speech.
As No. 6 said ‘you will not get it’
I really look forward to the day that Johnson and his cronies appear in court. If this does not happen the people’s judgement will be much fiercer.
Alastair Cavendish makes a first-rate job of describing precisely this, with more emphasis on the silliness of so many in prostrating themselves to order, but now becoming aerated over Johnson’s booze-ups.
https://www.britishfreedom.net/post/the-two-faces-of-janus
I can thoroughly recommend Mr. Cavendish’s other pungently critical essays on Covid, politicians, masks and other things that so closely concern us.
Sorry to say but Joseph Public deserves this government, and the next, and the next…
Time to realise that all political forms are arbitrary and contingent. Democracy is on its way out. And we should be glad.
A just monarchy, republic, oligarchy, whatever… is better than the degeneration we hold to be ‘democracy’. Cherry-pick its good bits, and return to a pluralism of political forms.
Fukuyama was right: liberal democracy was the final political system: not in the way he thought, however.
Agreed, democracy is compromised by those with immense wealth. Maybe the next political system will be an elite global feudalism using the mechanisms of communism to invoke tyranny over the people?
I doubt it for the long-term at least. I hope rather we go back to an array of different styles of political forms coexisting in a ‘multipolar’ world. A post-democratic world shorn not of the good bits of democracy, but of its characteristic excesses.
Of course no utopia is possible on earth, but a major obstacle to justice and truth on earth is the current untouchable perverted shibboleth of ‘democracy’; which is really the sum of everything we observe in Covidianism.
https://audioboom.com/posts/8012295-carl-heneghan-why-i-spoke-out-against-lockdown
from the round up was excellent
I want retribution against 2 lots of people
1 – those that advocated lockdowns
2 – those that advocated vaccine mandates
members of neither group are positive to society. in another age they’d have been burning witches or hunting down Jews or grassing on their neighbours to the secret police
Either group are the modern witches, though…
You don’t stamp out (cultural) heresy, and it becomes the mainstream and bites us all on the ass. Then we have to reciprocate with flamethrowers.
Give it time….
Meanwhile, whilst the ‘Boris party’ discussion continues an elite gang of unelected global organised criminals continues to pursue its objective to reset humanity for the benefit of the children that may survive.
Have a great day
Exactly. This is, at best, a distraction. At worst, this is a calculated campaign to remove someone that is not playing ball. Even many of the awake are asleep on this one.
It is proof that the government of the UK knew the virus scare was a fraud right from the outset.
You may have noticed many movies over the last couple decades have focussed on an end of world scenario with a modern Noah’s Arch taking in elite people and lucky lottery winners. I don’t believe our children were ever meant to survive what they are trying to achieve, while the likes of Pfeffel keeps knocking up high priestesses like his latest wife who is considered to be very close to the Rothschilds.
The lesson is don’t get caught.
The lesson isn’t that the rules were wrong the lesson is that those making the rules knew the rules were bollocks.
If these people in Government believed there was a terribly dangerous virus going around they would not have been meeting up in large social groups and getting pissed on a near daily basis.
They would have not risked infecting themselves and others, they would not have risked taking such a virus home to their children and loved ones.
That they acted as they did proves they had no fear, they had no fear because they KNEW the claims they were making about a deadly virus was bullshit right from the outset.
The entire thing has been a hoax used by Boris and the Tories against the British people.
So the next question is cui bono and that isn’t particularly hard to work out.
Yes that is the key point that needs to be made. That the govt clearly knew the rules were bollockd and that there was nothing to worth about and just carry on as normal, and that they deliberately deceived the people as to that fact.
Dogs breakfast.
By focusing on the rules, we we encourage the notion that he hypocrisy is okay, it’s not.
Why does does equally hypocrite Starmer open up his mouth about it?
Why does anyone care about a poll lead two years before the election? Germany’s last two federal elections saw poll leads of over 10% erased and reversed in the few months before the election.
Get real and a grip.
If Boris want to save his sorry ass he has to be the people’s champion by throwing those responsible for advising him under that £350million for the NHS bus.
To do this he will have plenty of help from the real experts who can prove that lockdowns were highly damaging as was the policy of clearing out untested covid infected patients from hospitals into care homes, they can also show that not only was he lied to about the so called vaccines (only qualified as such after the definition of a vaccine was changed) but that the people advising him that there was no evidence that Hydroxychloroquine and ivermectin as early treatments were effective against the virus knew that not only were they highly effective, but that the proposed mRNA vaccines wouldn’t work and would actually risk making things worse.
He can make an issue of all the money wasted when he relied on the ‘best’ experts.
He has no desire to be a people’s champion because he sold out to global interests/ groups even before the first lockdown. He committed to what followed that because he personally would benefit as soon as he is relieved of being the PM. He has echoed the mantra of the Big Pharma cartel ” no one is safe until everyone is safe” (Sept 2020) re worldwide ‘vaccination’, introduced masks in the middle of summer 2020, spouted dramatic metaphors about the thundering cavalry hooves bringing the country’s salvation in the form of injections, insisted they were the way to freedom yet also insisted lockdowns had done the serious heavy lifting.
This man is a moral vacuum and there is no way back, nor should one be manufactured for him.
People might prefer to cleave to the ‘better the devil you know’ option but if a new ‘devil’ steps in to his shoes in the next weeks or months then at least we know how to ignore such ‘devils’ and their lies. Their agenda is exposed.
Sorry, but the zombified public are not listening. They’re now walking round with corks in their ears as well as masks on their faces to try and ignore the fact they’ve been had.
The BBC is working round the clocks trying to influence them into thinking that the politicians are simply irresponsible, just like Djokovic. They’re still working the covid fraud narrative into every single programme and dedicating 80% of all their ‘news’ reports to covid propaganda.
It should have been no surprise that apart from one family, I was the only person walking around my local garden centre today without a mask on. Silly me thinking that, surely, more of them would have started to question why they’re still following the ‘rules’. Instead they seem more indignant towards anyone not wearing masks. I noticed one guy measuring me up, trying to decide whether he had the guts to accost me.
I’m not sure how I would respond if such a thing happened – especially when this scam has never been so clear and obvious.
God help us if Slimy Starmer gets in. He’s been an ardent proponent of lockdown and more severe restrictions all along. Boris is the best of a very bad bunch. The whole Cabinet needs firing, and some of the Tory rebels brought in to sort out the corruption and erosion of human rights and civil liberties destroyed by this pack of hyenas in Whitehall.
Just been sent a photo of No 10 which looks like Tim Martin has converted it to a J D Wetherspoons!
Main lessons: 1. Don’t trust politicians nor civil servants. 2. The rules were complete rollox. 3. Most of the public are spineless sheep.
I intend drinking flagons of wine and eating masses of cheese etc. in my office this week as, according to the Prime Minister, – not for much longer – this constitutes work!!
“No. 10’s hypocrisy certainly should be condemned. But that’s not the most important lesson here. No, the most import lesson is: the rules were wrong.”
The rules weren’t wrong. Just because the people at the top think that every rule has an exception (for them), it doesn’t mean the rule is wrong. Let’s not forget that Boris got covid, was in hospital with it as well, and discussions were had for the possibility that he died, so he must have been pretty critical at one point.
Sure, those at the top think that they are so immune to consequences that they expect that even viruses will respect their power (ooops, they don’t). But that doesn’t mean that following the rules wouldn’t have been a very good idea, even for them.