The use of behavioural psychology in influencing public behaviour during the pandemic – a.k.a. Project Fear – must be part of the U.K. COVID-19 Inquiry, say 42% of the public, according to a new poll. A State of Fear author Laura Dodsworth has more.
An independent new survey by opinion experts Yonder for grassroots organisation Recovery has revealed that the terms of reference fail to address major public concerns. Although the draft terms bullet-point no less than 32 separate areas of focus for the Inquiry, key areas of concern are missing.
Recovery found that:
• 42% want the Inquiry to consider the use of behavioural psychology in influencing public behaviour during the pandemic.
• 40% want restrictions on the media examined, reflecting concern over whether the actions of Ofcom and the main broadcasters and social media platforms compromised freedom of speech.
• 60% want a specific focus on children to be included in the inquiry – there is currently no mention of impact of Covid measures on children.Jon Dobinson who heads up Recovery said:
“There are obvious dangers in the unchecked use of sophisticated psychological techniques by Government to alter people’s behaviour without their knowledge or consent. Behavioural psychologists were given free rein during the pandemic and their controversial use of fear in particular has had serious consequences for mental health. The Inquiry must bring some overdue scrutiny to the work of the nudge unit: controls on its techniques are vital.”
The Government’s unprecedented use of ‘nudge’ techniques to promote fear caused real harm to people, Laura says.
Behavioural science played an unprecedented role in the management of the pandemic – it’s why I wrote A State of Fear: How the U.K. Government weaponised fear during the COVID-19 pandemic. It must be considered as part of the Inquiry.
SPI-B shocked the world when it said in March 2020 that the public needed to be frightened so that they would comply with lockdown requirements, because “a substantial number of people still do not feel sufficiently personally threatened”, recommending that ministers increase “the perceived level of personal threat” posed by Covid, and to frighten the British public with “hard-hitting emotional messaging” to encourage adherence to the emergency lockdown regulations.
Whatever you think of lockdown and restrictions there has to be public accountability for the covert psychological techniques used to encourage adherence to the rules. They have caused collateral damage, made recovery harder and are anti-democratic.
In March 2021, Recovery commissioned an independent poll from Yonder and found that 15% of respondents reported depression, anxiety or fear as a direct result of Government pandemic advertising. A further 7% reported that the advertising made an existing mental health condition worse: that’s almost 12 million people around the country whose mental health was damaged by an unprecedented Government advertising campaign designed to create fear. And 3% said that the advertising had brought on an entirely new mental health condition requiring treatment.
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“SPI-B shocked the world when it said in March 2020 that the public needed to be frightened so that they would comply with lockdown requirements, because “a substantial number of people still do not feel sufficiently personally threatened”, recommending that ministers increase “the perceived level of personal threat” posed by Covid, and to frighten the British public with “hard-hitting emotional messaging” to encourage adherence to the emergency lockdown regulations.”
If only. I still encounter people today who are not even aware of it. It was truly impressive just how little it actually shocked the world at the time, a combination of media downplaying and complacent compliance.
Because it damned well ought to have shocked us all into taking decisive action.
And it has not stopped. Very occasionally I put the radio on in the car and every bloody advert segment has a piece trying to tell me that C1984 is still here and oh my god its Dangerous.
At which I switch the damned thing off.
The problem is it will never stop until there is the genuine mass outrage it deserves.
It’s far too useful.
The progaganda has bee far too bullyingly intimidating and successful. Most still suck it all up everyday day from the BBC, the Mail et al.
I’m suspicious of any adult who reaches for the word ‘bullying’. It suggests arrested development.
Lol at the troll. Who’s that trip trapping over my bridge?
It’s the adult in the room. The one who would be mortified at the idea of telling anyone that I felt bullied.
But did he feel bullied? There is a legitimate distinction to be made between recognising a ‘bullying’ authoritity and feeling ‘bullied’? It is not at all clear that Dave Beaton is saying he ‘felt bullied’.
Go and have a second booster and do us all a favour.
Does your camel wear a mask?
Why do you call them a troll? They’ve made some excellent points on this thread. Finding something someone says outrageous doesn’t make them a troll.
Stupid comment
Just trying’ to fit in, eh..
You’re right, government policy was domestic abuse masquerading as science.
It was deliberate and wilful abuse. With the knowledge that fear causes stress and stress kills.
You should know all about bullying, Abdul.
And I still know virtually nobody, besides myself, who is outraged. In fact, most think it’s me who’s not in touch with reality.
Perhaps they think the nanny state swaddling them and squeezing them to death is a great comfort.
Welcome to my world… I’m viewed as a bit weird and very pessimistic and keeping saying strange things to my family. They’ve never heard of the sites I read online and show no interest in finding things out for themselves about the Covid business. Friends just want their next booster to go on holiday or to lead a “normal” life. No-one seems to register that they’ve been nudged.
It all shows how the education system has been weaponised to eliminate curiosity and judgement from the younger generation.
What happened to the Bolshie attitudes of students of the fifties and sixties, when anything pushed by government was ignored?
Very true. I taught FE Access Courses for wannabe nurses, doctors, radiologists etc and often when I asked if anyone had any questions all they wanted to know was whether or not what I’d just covered was in the exam! For the most part there was no curiosity and questioning.
I have given Laura’s book to several members of my family and friends too. I either have no reaction or they think I’m one of those conspiracy theorists.
To have the genuine mass outrage the masses would need to know about it – I’d say very few do and if I was to do a straw poll among my friends and acquaintances I’d say I could count on the fingers of one hand those who knew we were being manipulated, and that is because they were sceptic and, like me, doing their own research.
I am the same. I know two people who did any research. The rest did zero. None at all. No idea what they were jabbed with. I mean, they couldn’t tell me if it was astrazeneca or Pfizer etc. Blind obedience is quite jarring to see.
I would imagine that the bulk of the jabbed have no idea not only what company’s brand was put into their arm like you say, but zero interest in the ingredients or possible side effects.
As someone on here said some time ago, they’d spend longer online researching to buy a new toaster!
You are right. I am finding that I am now living in this weird dual World. I am concerned about losing extended family members in the next couple of years because they have taken the poison. Concerned about food supplies, inflation, where this all going etc. They are booking their trip to Tenerife.
Me too! Do you find that, if you mention anything controversial (to the narrative), they look at you with a strange, blank expression?
They do look at me weirdly with an expression that suggests I’ve gone a bit mad. That’s usually followed by a rapid change of subject…
I am now corralled into only speaking about “safe” subjects – football, rugby, golf, gardening, TV, books, films etc. If you try to have a real conversation about say, the plandemic, the poison jabs, will the economy crash and how soon, the fake cost of living squeeze etc (and don’t even go near Ukraine and Russia) and I get completely shut down. So I have learned to just not bother – I’m trying VERY hard to do all I can to maintain some very important relationships and it becomes more difficult with every passing day.
You have my sympathy
With you absolutely on how difficult it is to maintain very important relationships and I sometimes do resent having to keep my counsel as well as being shut down. I am trying hard to practise benign acceptance but wonder why it is that it’s not reciprocated.
Yep our next door neighbours have just come back from Tenerife. All jabbed up to the eyeballs. One of them (your name sake actually) has just announced (no test taken thank God) she thinks she has Covid (aka a cold)!
One of our neighbours has long Covid but manages to talk for hours to her friends while standing at the window as no-one is allowed in the house. This has been going on since October. She did manage to go on holiday though…
I wish I knew some fellow Sceptics in my personal life.
I know – now that spring is almost with us (well maybe by end of April) I am going to have to try to find and STIP event near me in hopes of finding some!!
I’m sad that you don’t. If you lived near where I am I could introduce you to some amazing hardcore dissidents!
Thanks CG.
I know a mate who isn’t really a sceptic, he wore a mask most of the time but was adamant not to have the vaccine. After a while at the end of last year he stopped wearing a mask in the Supermarket. A bit late to the show but better late than never.
We should welcome people like your mate with open arms. He’s part of the vital 40% we need. The prodigal son!
Good on yer mate for finally realising what a shitshow this is
My most uplifting meeting with fellow sceptics was last summer when I was walking my dog. We had a good exchange of views and then went our separate ways to different parts of the country as we were all on holiday!
SITP is the place for you, look them up they’re a great bunch (okay one or two knobs around but at least they’re like minded!).
I started a SITPUB recently we meet every week in a local boozer.
When I try to go through the glaring indicators that identify the scam, I get eyes glazed or here he goes again. They do not want to admit they’ve been had. Classic reaction to revolutionary parliamentarianism (please look it up)
I will do!
According to the Oxford Dictionary, terrorism is “the calculated use of violence or threat of violence to inculcate fear”, and “is intended to coerce or intimidate governments or societies in the pursuit of goals that are generally political, religious, or ideological.”
Across the world, and pretty much simultaneously, governments have subjected their own populations to a form of terrorism for what are clearly political goals (in that their own power has been immeasurably increased) and ideological (with regional variations).
The inculcation of fear has been horrifyingly effective. In my forced semi-isolation, I miss much of it. When I encounter it (in my case watching football and cricket), I find it ludicrous: ugly and absurd. But it’s worked, and it’s still working.
So conclusion: ” terrorists” in Government and we are their target!.
At least we now know what we are really dealing with?
Whenever I have said to people that I consider the Government to be terrorists, waging a war upon the people of the UK, I get the expected “funny looks”, “keeping safe”, “be kind to others”, “it’s not just about you” and the rest of the farrago of unthinking nonsense.
People I once considered to be reasonably sensible and rational have succumbed to this psychological warfare, and appear to have no further aims in life beyond getting another “booster”.
And the “but Boris is only doing his best!” and “The government didn’t know what they were up against! ” Every TIME I hear this I just want punch my own face! Classic Stockholm Syndrome symptoms
Mirrors my experience exactly Hopeless. At times I feel like I am living in a parallel universe.
The only very scant consolation I can take from it is that some time – probably sooner than we think – those others are going to be in for a massive shock, whereas me, I will have known it is coming and will be less shocked when it happens.
Even with the evidence that while we were in lock down; those who had access to the best research, facts, figures and indicators, chose to piss it up in non family bubbles, maskless etc (at No. 10) as if the pandemic didn’t exist, there are still those who say it was dangerous and we did the right thing to save grannie.. utter bs
We’ve been subjected to virtual house arrest, ordered to cover our mouths, and punished if we refuse experimental injections.
Saying that our governments just went a bit silly doesn’t cut it.
Exactly that – take away the virus scare and how would these polices – which had no effect on the virus whatever- have been seen ?
Also always remember that Ivermectin – banned in he UK by Hancock, Johnson, Javid and Whitty in order to push their vax, could have saved nearly every life threatened by Covid.
So that makes SAGE terrorists.
All part of the 2030 “strategy” is there still any doubt whatever where we in the West are being taken ( or rather “taken down”)?
We’re being lead down the garden path!
Best listen to Van Halen’s 1984, it’s awesome.
Something in my email inbox this morning talking about “Pandemic Two” on the way…. along with currency collapse etc etc
I see Gates, rubbing his hands!
It’s not only on the radio. All of Reading city centre is full of council/ government (don’t know which) COVID ads. The tone of messaging has become a little more positive, eg, Vaccination is the best protection!, Thank you for wearing a face covering!, We got boosted! but it’s really as insidious as ever, just with an air of circling the wagons and planning to hold out until a new opportunity presents itself.
Who in Reading Council is suggesting and making these posters? Unless these people are dealt with, they will not stop. It can only be a handful of people. Name them. You have to zoom in and find the problem.
And tear the posters down.
It is everywhere EF – My city council issues a very expensively produced magazine every quarter (which I could do without) and it is full to the gills of “safetyism” and ‘wokeism’ and every other ism you can think of (I think they even managed to get some Ukraine-ism into the most recent one before it went to publication)
I’ve already posted this a few days ago, but here is how the city of Oulu in Finland has money to waste on ‘educational methods’ to teach the illegal immigrants that “rape is a no-no”:
2 million quid for this pile of garbage.
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/SvIQaIgKiO4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s2Uru_vZZ8U
Yes, the tannoy announcements continue in shops where I live asking you to “respect our staff and continue to wear face coverings”
It was flu …. so bad that the age adjusted death rate for 2022 was lower than 2008 and every year before. And, whilst I might have a bad memory,I don’t recall people paniking in the streets and demanding the public were told blatant lies in any year before 2008.
I will never again trust anything the government or media tells me.
Propaganda works. SPI-B are the spawn of Joseph Goebbels
It shocked me into telling everyone I met that it was a scamdemic to put money into the pockets of politicians, while letting them wet themselves ordering people to do as they said.
Not that I trust or believe polls, but if 58% of people don’t think the psychological manipulation is worth looking into, I think that demands its own inquiry.
What is the breakdown of those 58% along lines of gender, age, ethnicity, voting intentions, region, education levels?
I think I could confidently predict at least half of those.
2/3 being women (of whom 81% want to speak to the manager and 19% already did)
3/4 being university ‘educated’ (of whom 90% have an arts or social sciences degree)
3/4 being under 40 (being unable to remember a time when barefaced mendacity and pathologised behaviour was NOT the accepted norm)
3/4 living in a major city (where ‘common sense’ goes to make a buck then die)
Excellent points.
An the paid for down voters have confirmed that.
We seriously questioned the polls when they were showing that a majority wanted to be locked down and badly abused by the government.
Are we suddenly going to start believing them?
Not if we have any brains left.
Perhaps when I opened with “Not that I trust or believe polls” it wasn’t clear that I don’t trust or believe polls.
We don’t have to believe the polls to be curious to dig into the ‘data’ they provide.
(the reply is more to David than Stewart, I guess)
It’s the data they don’t provide that you need to worry about. How they got to their sub sample, framing, filter questions etc etc. Ipsos is a WEF partner, YouGOV is blackrock (a WEF owner). Ipsos do surveys for the WEF all the time. Ipsos had the REACT survey in partnership with ICL (CEO UK and global have close links with ICL).
https://web.archive.org/web/20210907145424/https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2021/09/how-can-framing-decisions-impact-the-issue-of-vaccination-passports/
When the polls are so bad … that even massively nudged, they have to admit they favour us … they start to be believable.
Don’t believe the polls then – they are part of the ongoing psyop and they lie.
Radio 4 listeners like my sister.
Surely, most of them hardly know her.
Man I needed that laugh!
Ditto – thanks John Dee!
John Dee’s a Ledge.
50% of people have less than average intelligence although I’m beginning to think covid altered that.
In other words, this inquiry is what we all knew it is: A fake inquiry meant to fool the public into thinking that the government is actually being held accountable, and which will end with the great, big conclusion: “The government should have imposed more restrictions, but were unable to do so because of pressure from far right anti-vax groups.” They had no plans to actually look into the totalitarian measures taken by the government, or the abuse of power, or the actions that led to an unprecedented loss of life. And I doubt that they will take the public’s demands into account. If they do, the final report will probably be kept secret under the “not in the public interest” excuse, just like with the grooming gang report.
Don’t forget the final sign-off:
Lessons will be learned.
Mistakes were made.
This is clearly the same across the Anglosphere. In Australia, we like to throw in an “apology” – looks good on TV.
So, Five G and “Five Eyes”, what is it all really about then? Keeping us safe from “abroad” or locking us up “at home”.
Any guesses?
I sure as hell don’t believe my governments (federal, state or local) are keeping me safe from anything or anyone.
The minor figures are cowardly, dishonest opportunists. God only knows what the major ones are.
Mistakes were made.
Lessons will be learned. (When, exactly?)
Yet no one will be held accountable.
‘Lessons will be learned’. – Yep “we didn’t transfer enough wealth to ourselves and our mates”. Must do better next time.
It is the people who need to ‘learn the lesson’ this time!
We need to move forward.
After WWII they said “it must never happen again” … never again should governments be allowed to manipulate the populace and treat people like cattle.
So, they passed international conventions of human rights and the Nuremberg code, and those enshrined out right to body integrity, to be treated medically for our own best interests, and rights to free speech, protest and freedom.
Then along came a flu … and they just tossed all those “we must never forget” resolutions in the bin, lied, to us, manipulated the population to accept being treated like cattle, discriminted against minority groups, denied the right to free speech and protest and locked us all (except those partying) up.
It was all hot air … it would take almost nothing to topple us into a Totalitarian future like Germany in WWII, like Stalin, like Pol Pot, etc., and there is absolutely no way to stop it.
What they really said is The Germans must never get a chance to do that (or anything else, for that matter) again. That’s the whole raison d’etre for the so-called international world order. It’s limits where never meant to apply to the good guys (and – in fact – prior to the Russian invasion of Afghanistan were pretty much never applied to anyone).
Should have been Ukraine instead of Afghanistan.
It will of course be a cover up, for many reasons. Any inquiry, even one done earnestly, is doomed to fail IMO because the huge scale and scope of the thing assumes that there was a deadly pandemic, and all we need to do it is look into how it was handled. What there needs to be first is a recognition that there was no deadly pandemic by any sane reading of that term, so the whole house of cards falls down at that point – once you accept that this was the case, you may as well not have the inquiry you planned – you need a completely different inquiry with different terms of reference and a more limited but fundamental scope, about the value of freedom, the role of government, “public health”.
You need not start from that point if you’re doing a thorough, correct inquiry. Because you first need to see what the cost benefit analysis said about the effects of restrictions versus the effects of the virus. You will, of course, very soon realise that there was no such analysis, which will then prompt you to make one yourself, as part of the investigation. And in the process of doing this analysis you will reach the inevitable conclusion that the impact of no restrictions would have been minimal.
The problem is that they are not conducting a thorough, correct inquiry. I don’t even think they are capable of such a thing. After all, if you’re in charge of selecting the people whose job it is to check your work and look over your shoulder, you wouldn’t be selecting any capable and/or determined individuals, would you?
I agree one of the first items to look at is the cost benefit analysis, but I think it’s a question of mindset and expectation. If you have set out to have a huge, detailed investigation with broad scope, and early on you find that the whole premise that the response was based on was a Big Lie, I think it’s very hard to just stop there. So you carry on and disappear down a million rabbit holes, and the conclusion will be watered down and opportunities for people to avoid the basic truth will abound. What they should be saying is “there was no deadly pandemic by any reasonable or historical definition of the term, so all actions arising from this assumption are immediately invalidated on their face”, but there’s no way that will happen. It will play out.
Of course. Initial mindset and assumptions should not matter to actual investigators, since you shouldn’t be bringing in preconceived assumptions into such an investigation. But it is pretty much certain that the goal of this inquiry is to reach a predefined conclusion, not to actually investigate anything.
Yes indeed. I think though it would take investigators of exceptional strength of character to say the whole thing was a huge mistake from the start.
The Government conspicuously refused to do a cost benefit analysis because they knew what the result would be – say no more about their real intentions!
Quite. Might as well just take the budget for the enquiry in £20 notes and throw it from a helicopter.
Well yes -at least then some people would benefit from scooping them up!
You do need to start from that point, because you can’t have an inquiry without a definition of terms. You can’t define the terms without answering questions such as “what constitutes a deadly pandemic?”
It needs to be plain from the outset what the premises are on which the inquiry is founded. Otherwise, it’s just begging the question.
If the foundational definitions are wrong and the fundamental values are unsound, there’s no point in turning to the spreadsheets to do a cost benefit analysis, because their (lack of) value will be a foregone conclusion.
Just defining terms doesn’t mean the terms also apply.
Don’t be daft. Of course it does.
Ignorance: lack of knowledge or information
I have defined a term. Now you tell me: does it apply to you or not? If the answer is “no”, would you like to rethink your above statement?
I’ll take the kafkatrap for 50 points.
Go on then, explain to me why or how terms would be defined and then disregarded in the context of the very same inquiry?
Defining the term “deadly pandemic” doesn’t mean you must also find that the pandemic was deadly.
You said that the enquiry must start from the idea that “there was no deadly pandemic by any sane reading of that term”. What I said is that you can start from that point and still reach the correct conclusion as long as you are honest and thorough about the investigation you are carrying out.
I said no such thing.
Julian said that. I did not. Go back and read it again.
And in fact when I said “you do need to start at that point” I was responding to your post prior to the one where Julian said “there was no deadly pandemic by any sane reading of that term”.
This one
You need to define what is a deadly pandemic and then answer “by that definition, did we in fact have a deadly pandemic?”
At no point did I pre-empt either of those things.
Once that is done we can potentially say that their definition of ‘deadly pandemic’ is absurd, or that there clearly was no deadly pandemic even by their own terms.
You totally did say that. You said, and I quote:
In response to me saying:
In reference to Julian saying:
Clear now? Or did you forgot what you were responding to?
By ‘that point’ I meant you need to start with the definition of terms.
I didn’t agree with Julian’s pre-supposition that there was no deadly pandemic… I said we need to define terms – what is a deadly pandemic – and then answer the question “did we therefore actually have a deadly pandemic?”.
I literally would not have typed those words if the point I meant we should start from was granting Julian’s assertion that ‘there was no deadly pandemic”
Does not the fact that the government itself downgraded the virus on its own website hamstring their attempts to call it a deadly pandemic and then conduct the investigation against that reference?
Surely the inquiry has to take that downgrading of the virus as its starting point and work from there, and examine everything done after that decision was taken, and not removed from the website, without any cost benefit analysis in that context?
Correct.
Well said!
Because you first need to see what the cost benefit analysis said about the effects of restrictions versus the effects of the virus.
That’s fundamentally the wrong question. Or rather, it’s the correct question if the issue at hand is one of efficient livestock management on behalf of its owners. But human beings are not cattle, the government isn’t our owner and the WHO and the associated, so-called public health bodies are not tasked with manageing us efficiently.
Our so-called human rights are not supposed to be conditional on them being a cost-effective way to get through a WHO-declared state of pandemic.
I didn’t say that point is the main point, or the main focus of the inquiry. I was giving an example of a possible path of investigation that would reach the conclusion of “no pandemic”, despite not starting with that assumption.
I don’t quite understand how this would relate to my text.
I was commenting on a mode of inquiry you had written about which is based on the assumption that the Corona politics enacted since March 2020 are principally justified but that they might not have been cost-effective in this particular situation. Using the example at hand, the current chicken lockdown to combat bird flu (causing a dearth of free range eggs) is sensible and proportional. While there’s nothing wrong with locking down humans as well, it wasn’t a sensible policy in this partiuclar case.
This is a notion I disagree with for the reasons I gave above.
I never said I agree with that. In fact I have said on multiple occasions that such investigations must be approached without preconceived ideas. As I said above, what I was doing was offering an example of a possible path of investigation that would reach the conclusion of “no pandemic”, despite not starting with that assumption.
And I never claimed you agreed with it because I wasn’t writing about you, central as you may seem to yourself, but about a certain topic. I’d welcome other opinions on that. If you’re not interested in it, why not ignore it?
I didn’t see any adverts on tv as I don’t watch it. But when I went out for work occasionally I’d see the bus stops plastered with images like above. It felt utterly dystopian. For a virus that gave me a sore throat for a couple of days.
god knows how many people died from stress alone
It seems to me that the real cause of death was a matter of total indifference to Government ( other than that the Covid figure needed to be kept high)- it was the ‘outcome’ they were watching!
The arsonists helpfully volunteering to look into the cause of the fire.
Only to find it was a discarded cigarette end and to call for a total ban on smoking.
I remember talking to a couple of neighbours, in their early 40’s and they believed all the propaganda. They hadn’t seen their parents for ages as they were scared they may pass it on. They were terrified and said how awful they would feel if they had knowingly killed their parents with this killer disease.
I wonder how many grannies I’ve killed by my callous selfish attitude. Almost certainly zero.
We’ve probably all been in trains of transmission that ended up in an old person dying – of a cold or of flu etc. Its just life (and death). We can hermetically seal old people when they hit a certain age or vulnerability – or we can live our lives. There is literally nothing wrong with an old person dying of old age – a celebration that they didn’t die of something avoidable at least. Dying of a cold or flu when old is just old age. That’s what old age is – dying of things you’d have shaken off when younger.
If I was old and vulnerable – I’d have probably made sure I got more sunshine and ate my vegetables – probably missed out going to raves for the peak. But I wouldn’t have avoided seeing my grandkids – even if they ‘killed’ me.
Unfortunately for many people this wasn’t 2 years they’ll shake off in time. Many hundreds of thousands died under effective house arrest. Many died without ever seeing their kids or grandkids again.
If you read the Guardian and work for the government you probably think the last 2 years was a jolly jape and now you can afford that holiday home. But then you are a cunt.
“We’ve probably all been in trains of transmission that ended up in an old person dying – of a cold or of flu etc. Its just life (and death)”
Absolutely, and people have never thought about this much (at least I haven’t and I am guessing many others likewise). This is the naked truth, and the contract we have as a social species, and distorting this is unnatural and hideous, and until we return to a general acceptance of what you’ve set out, we are going to see the kind of idiocy and evil, regarding covid, other diseases and the whole lunatic safetyist industry and obsession. It’s a mental illness, probably brewing for a while (the more safety you have, the more you want, the more good health you have, the more you want) and accelerated rapidly by the Satanic propaganda.
If I try to put these views to most people I know, who are mostly ronatards, they basically think I am mad or a Nazi or both.
And if you set “save a granny” in the context of the time when they were Midazolaming old people in care homes without any kind of conscience whatsoever the hypocrisy of it is mind blowing.
Lockdowns, deprivation of human company and Midazolam did for the Grannies!
Oh boy, this is what I’m up against but it’s my elderly in-laws that are convinced that they carry asymptomatic coof ALL THE TIME because that’s what they’ve been lead to believe. Despite the fact that they themselves are in the vulnerable category, and have had ALL of their jibs! They were in a quandary as to whether to take a test before visiting us at the weekend, even though they know we have followed NONE of it, and we’re still standing!
I still cannot persuade my mother (jabbed until there is almost nothing left of her) to get on the bus.
If they have had all of the “jabs” then they are at significant risk of catching the omni-coof over and over again because their innate immune system has been Pfucked.
I think it’s the other way round. We’ll kill a bunch of grannies by keeping them isolated from the little refresher courses for their immune system provided by meeting people.
Many in the Establishment knew (and still know) EXACTLY what they were (and are still) doing.
Exactly!
Public Wants Government Held to Account Over Use of Fear in Pandemic, Poll Shows
Held to account?
I want trials, imprisonment and maybe even see a few of them swing for their crimes against humanity.
Hear, hear…
Or what about a bit of “Behavioural Psychology” of our own. The convicted get to choose between being thrown off a cliff, impalement or burned at the stake. It is their choice
Just a few more deaths “due to the pandemic”.
Collateral damage. These things happen.
Or perhaps another twenty jabs in rapid succession?
A few? Hundreds?
We saw the beginning of Totalitarianism. It should be a full Nuremberg II, with the penalties of Nuremberg I.
Does anyone know who Neil Ferguson is shagging these days?
It’s been quite a while since he had Antonia traipse across London, possibly spreading Covid as she went and killing untold thousands of grannies.
This won’t lead to anything as most of the public don’t care. One thing this pandemic has reaffirmed to me is that an overwhelmingly majority of people, both educated and uneducated, are remarkably compliant and remarkably thick. We saw all that with the doorstep clapping thing.
Amazing, wasn’t it?
My daughter ran upstairs to my office one evening, shouting, “Dad! Everyone’s outside, clapping!”
I couldn’t work it out.
I remember all that. Like we lived in a foreign country.
Honestly, for a moment, I thought I was asleep and dreaming.
It is quite something to watch actual brainwashing in action.
I quite enjoyed each week, flinging open my windows and playing the national anthems of Russia, China, Cuba etc…
We certainly do now – Franco’s Spain, Peron’s Argentina – Hoxa’s Albania or even the old Ulbricht DDR?
Johnson has chosen very particular company ….. but Churchill’s Britain is not present .
My sister if she was out, woukd return early on a Thursday especially to stand on her doorstep and clap. Apparently it showed ‘appreciation’ for people like her daughter, a GP and vaccine fanatic. Personally I can’t wait for the day her daughter is hauled before at least, a medical board, preferably a court of law.
Needless to say my sister and I are no longer communicating.
I have neighbours of that ilk – understand it well.
I used to leave the house on Thursdays at that time on purpose for my “daily exercise” as the best excuse I could come up with to avoid it.
To think though, that at that time, there were extremely senior civil servants bringing in their Karaoke machines to No10 Downing Street, at a time when churches were closed and singing was forbidden, so that they could belt out pop numbers at parties…
“. . . Needless to say my sister and I are no longer communicating.”
Nor with your niece I imagine Catee? Definitely not if she happens to read this!
One of the few things we were spared downunder.
I think some people worked it out.
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-derbyshire-52252003
“Coronavirus: Belper moo relieves lockdown misery”
Now it’s parking charges for the Hero Nurses at their place of work!
The likes of District Enforcement and Euro Parking Collection are raking it in!
I absolutely agree. I get some of the compliance, the less egregious things people did to get along hassle free.
But the level of indifference I met to invasive medical procedures, and now injecting children, astonished me. I still can’t quite fathom what is happening. Do they have no red lines at all?
But I suspect, as you note above, there is probably zero thought whatsoever. I chatted to a colleague recently, triple jabbed, who said he was throroughly fed up of the whole thing. It was a farce etc. I took this as a positive sign and asked if he was getting the kids jabbed. He said, no way! I’m done with all that. A great sign, until he added – unless we decide to go on holiday this year and we’ll get them jabbed then.
I mean, what do you do?
I go back and forth between blaming the public and not blaming them.
On the one hand the amount of coercion from the state has been appalling – it takes very strong will and an independent streak a mile wide to have stood firmly agin it all for the whole two years.
My red lines were all drawn 2 years back and refusing to cross them has cost me dearly, even as someone who is not horrifically bound into the system by having wife & children.
We’ve seen here and in the other place time after time that a united front on all this between husband and wife has been rare indeed and required such a rock solid bond of trust and shared values, impermeable to social media toxins, as to be almost impossible without one or the other party supplicating themselves.
On the other hand, I’ve not had to think twice about my intransigence. I’ve been prepared to pay the high price necessary for personal integrity and a clear conscience, and I’d do again every single time because without these things, life loses its meaning.
Evidently others either do not understand or do not value what they’re surrendering, and that’s what makes them detestable farm animals whose destiny is as someone’s lunch.
The public are to blame but it isn’t heir fault – that’s the sadness as is the fact hat people do not seem to realise that this is just the start of the track down which t hey are plotting to take us.
Just imagine life in one of their “Smart Cities”! ( see China for the prototype).
(” Fancy a drink Michelle? Sorry, no I can’t , my Quarter is on Lockdown Rota this week”)
I concur with all your points.
I too range from being reasonable and sympathetic given the wall of propaganda. Then I realize how dangerous this can all be. We came close to compulsory vaccination, and I remember last year thinking through the implications and realizing I would go to jail if needed. But I also sympathise with those for whom that would cause significant hardship to their dependents.
But that’s what a Behavioural Insights Team can do for you. Inject demoralizing choices into an unprepared population. They can make your life a living hell even if you are personally resilient.
Ergo, our full focus should be on the Nudge Unit. Many of the politicians and media types are made men; too many layers of protection. But the psychologists in the Behavioural Insights Team are much less so. They are also bound by a code of ethics, and we have the advantage of their more ethical colleagues keen to see them punished. After all, there is a degree of fear within the psychology world about what they have done and the potential for backlash.
They are the soft target we should aim all of our efforts at. Topple them, and the rest goes with it.
The tactic makes sense, but only if these more ethical colleagues have some power and influence in their professional bodies, and are resilient against the threats of cancellation.
And if these more ethical colleagues exist, who are they and after two years when they should have been shouting from the rooftops, why am I unable to name a single one of them? Have I simply not been paying attention?
“it takes very strong will and an independent streak a mile wide to have stood firmly agin it all for the whole two years.”
Thanks Al Jahom. I am the proud owner of both.
I can imagine that plenty of households up and down the country have been torn between the compliant (who want the kids jabbed) and the sceptical (who don’t). And I’d say that it was deliberate. The government clearly wants to foment chaos and set man against their fellow man. Make it easier for them to manipulate them.
100% agree
Especially as there were always plenty of places you could go where jabs have never been (and still aren’t) a requirement.
Exactly. It is the unthinking nature of it that astonishes me. The people injecting kids clearly don’t think the jabs can be dangerous.
Are we in the midst of some kind of Stanford authority experiment? Are they just slaves?
It’s the same old story as above though, isn’t it… renegade dad wants the family to go to Croatia (or whatever non-vaxxed country), but conformist mum wants to go to Italy, like her cool friend Bella just did.
Only one of those is going to make everyone’s life unbearable if they don’t get their way.
Reverse the sexes if you like but we all know which is most likely to be the independent and which the conformist.
The weekly clapping was a thing to behold. The muddled/transfixed masses automatically transitioned into mindless cultism at the mere suggestion of clapping for an institution that told them it didn’t want them anywhere near it.
The very institution ostensibly set up to treat the sick told people to stay at home and that it wanted nothing to do with them, and the dumb masses actually thought this was noble and applauded it.
Infectious behaviour ( pun unintentional) made it difficult to refuse the peer group group pressure – just as they intended – it used to happen at Hitler rallies!
The psyop team did all their homework!
Their result was the mass jabbing and the softening up for more of the same of course- we now wait to see the real outcome
The weekly cult clap was a huge red flag. I can’t look at anybody the same who I know indulged in it.
It’s actually quite frightening.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aB3UHN5sGAs
I know! At that level you begin to question their sentience never mind their intelligence.
I know – brilliantly put!
But remember the MSM told people that the doctors and nurses (when they weren’t perfecting their dances for their tiktok videos) were ‘on the front line’ – risking life and limb fighting the deadly virus.
It was all very Dunkirk spirit and therefore worthy of applause.
That’s actually very good and worth printing out and sticking all over the place.
“British are bunch of thick people ruled by a mafia, says Iran’s vice president.”
“The British people and David Cameron have been labelled ‘thick’ by a senior member of Iran’s government.”
And this was way back in 2010.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1302353/British-bunch-people-ruled-mafia-says-Irans-vice-president.html
Comments include:
“Have to agree with those remarks. Brits are not human, instead they are a bunch of sheep that believe and do everything their ‘thick’ leaders and celebrities tell them to do. Obsessed with the media, reality tv, football, binge drinking, class and vote for leaders that they like the look of! Brits cannot think for themselves and pay way over the odds for absolutely everything whilst receiving appalling service and value for money whilst letting politicians demolish their country with the EU, mass immigration, zero investment in facilities and infrastructure and bank bailouts. Just look at the city of London, a nasty, dirty, overcrowded, overpriced and overhyped dump that everyone wants to flock to for some unknown reason and property prices are obscene. Anyone with money that isn’t thick would be as far away as possible from a place like that so given its population I can only guess there are a lot of thickos.”
You’re a strange human being.
Anyone who participated in the Climtegate enquiries, knows that the British state only runs enquires to give the illusion of doing something and to kick the issue into the long grass long enough that they hope the public will forget and the courts will say “it’s all happened too long ago to allow legal action now”.
The outcome is a foregone conclusion: “nothing to see here … all the establishment acted perfectly …. the problem was the public not understanding blah blah”.
And, there would be no chance of the truth coming out … except that there are just too many people in too many jurisdictions and too many experts on our side, to enable the arrogant dishonest British establishment to get away with it this time. They can fix this enquiry … by making sure it is focussed on everything except the pertinent issues … but it cannot stop every enquiry and court case worldwide. So, the truth will come out, but it is extremely unlikely to come out from the standard “whitewashing” British enquiry.
I actually want Michie strung up, but let’s do the inquiry. The rest of SAGE should be found room on the washing line too. If we clear out the rot here, hopefully politicians will realise we are coming for them next, if they don’t sort themselves out pronto. The Nudge Unit has already been declared unethical by it’s peers, so defenestrating Michie ought to be a fairly quick process. But it is being run by Govt, for the benefit of Govt and there will be no consequences for actions, no matter what is found. Will there.
Why do we need an “enquiry” when our legal system and Human Rights have have been totally screwed over?
The inquiry “takes the bad look off it” (screwing over legal syst and HR law)
Like …er…”whitewash” then.
In fact that is all’ inquiries’ are ever for. (See Chilcott)
I think you mistook my comment.
“takes the bad look off it” is an expression used in my neck of the woods whereby someone does X purely to deflect from the fact that they are doing Y
In this case the “inquiry”, likely, yes to be a whitewash, is a “going through the motions” to make it look as though we still operate in a democracy and to detract from the fact that the legal system and HRA have been screwed over – a smokescreen.
If it would be a tragedy if Michie were fired from a circus cannon into the air intake of a rotating turbofan…..
“Face masks and some social distancing measures should continue “forever”, a top scientist on the SAGE committee that advises the government has said.
Professor Susan Michie said some measures adopted to tackle Covid-19 might be useful for suppressing other viruses like flu.”
Her turbofan awaits…
There are probably hundreds or thousands of scientific papers that focus on medical compliance – which is perhaps the opposite of informed consent and the truth is it’s maniacal. The British Medical Journal deserve a little praise for focussing on the issues the safety and effectiveness of the Covid shots but overwhelmingly they were more interested in celebrating the military success of the roll out of these products whether they work or not, whether they harm or kill people. If the question is posed whether there were ever grounds for safety and effectiveness there never were. Prior to roll out it was already said they could not stop transmission, there was only two months of Phase 3 testing and even important details of that were suppressed, the contracts were invisible and no one knew what was in the products, people who reported harms were marginalised but the whole thing was rated a great success because of the numbers of people jabbed. But the answer is that there could be no grounds for the roll out if the scientifically and ethical questions had not been answered and they weren’t.
Well done everybody – it was perhaps the greatest single triumph of idiocy (of leap before you look) in human history. It certainly had nothing to do with good medical science but it was triumph of human abuse.
So it is set to continue – their next move coming soon!
It was complete insanity … even if it had worked, it could not be justified.
It wasn’t insanity it was carefully planned for and implemented deliberately.
“Held to account”??
How about ‘roasted alive’?
Slowly!
Hopefully lessons will be learnt, about the mistakes [that] were made, in that a greater number of people will at least question if not thoroughly investigate future claims from authorities?
We can but hope.
Propaganda (1928) by Edward Bernays
Edward Bernays was the great uncle of Netflix cofounder Marc Randolph, for 10 points.
I just finished reading the Robert Kennedy Jr. book The Real Anthony Fauci.
The final chapters shows how goverments, intelligence agencies, pharma interests, NGOs, charities, educational institutions, the tech giants and media have all been brought together to use the fear of pandemics to crush civil liberties, democracy and human rights.
Everyone should read this book to comprehend what those in power have done to us, why they have done it and the hideous future they have planned if we let them get away with it.
I ordered my copy way back in January, but Amazon keeps telling me it isn’t yet available (current expected date is 28/April/2022). I don’t have kindle and in any case I’d prefer a hard copy. I understand the reason is because there is a paper shortage, but I’m not convinced.
It’s been through 12 printings already. It keeps selling out.
Good to hear – means a lot of people reading it and hopefully waking up.
I have an online pdf of it saved somewhere. I’m not a great online reader (prefer a book) but I might skip over to those end chapters Mr T refers to.
Because they are deliberately not printing enough to meet the demand !
Yes. It’s something of a public triumph. People keep asking and keep insisting.
I tried harassing an otherwise reputable bookshop, which promised to get it in for me – but mysteriously could not. Ordered it online and was warned that I would have to wait months, as indeed I did.
I’ve just ordered it from Blackwell who promise a delivery date in three days, and cancelled the Amazon order.
I agree – it’s a must-read. One of the most chilling aspects is that they have actually been getting away with it for years. The AIDS pseudo-pandemic was the blueprint for selling sketchy drugs at enormous profits. The tactics used in the Covid vaccine trials were pretty much a carbon copy, such as using the wrong clinical endpoints, excluding people from the trials with adverse events and cutting the trials short ‘because we can’t in all conscience deny people in the placebo arm these life-saving drugs’.
“if we let them get away with it.”
They’ve been getting away with it every day for two years – including today: 5th April 2022.
And this time tomorrow they’ll have another day’s salary in their bank accounts.
I think it’s only a matter of time before the government self identify as idiots. The next step will be getting them to self identify as superfluous.
Can the public also be held to account for both demanding and adhering to this rubbish?
BINGO
especially those people who we have tried to tell otherwise (they cannot say they weren’t told) and who denounced us as tin foil hat wearers.
The worst aren’t those, the worst are those who gleefully ratted on their countrymen.
If Germany had conquered Scotland during World War Two, Scotland would have far surpassed the French in ratting on each other.
I think both camps – the ratters and the deniers – are equally deserving in terms of criticism. But if I had been ratted on then I might feel harder towards them – fair point.
The only difference with the deniers is that there will come a point in time, when the vaxx harms are off the scale, then an “I told you so” might be apposite.
But we all know that they won’t be held to account don’t we?
We do.
No we don’t. The future is not written, and defeatism never helps.
Interesting that the ridiculous scare poster above is demonstrably a straight lie by Government designed simply to intimidate and oppress its own people.
We are living in a state of total alienation from Power, as under a Stalinist dictatorship. Power is now exercised in purely arbitrary, whimsical fashion- its direction driven by self-interested pressure groups and enforced by propaganda – this it seems is now a ‘fact of life’ we must get accustomed to in our “post democratic age” and adapt our responses by questioning absolutely everything – especially any manufactured “facts” serving the ‘narratives’ they use against us.
In a way, it makes Johnson the perfect leader for these mendacious ‘post-democratic’ times as long as no-one is stupid enough to believe a single word he ever says!
Fear sells. Works every time.
My two-cents: If you are going to debunk a dubious narrative, you better do it early on before it has taken hold and become “the truth” or “the science.” Once a false narrative is established, it’s almost impossible to change it.
Here, is where the skeptical “watchdog” press comes into play … or doesn’t come into play as the case may be.
‘Keeping us Safe’ – now apparently the new creepy role of M16 – take cover!
Like a farmer would with stabling animals?
IMHO 5eyes has gone rogue.
Some of us want the government held to account for a LOT more than just “overuse of fear”.
Midazolam scandle, and the defacto euthenasia policy in care homes
Vaccine injuries/deaths and the obvious cover-up of such.
Useless vaccine with scientifically relevant possible serious long term effects, and the cover-up of such.
Why are they pushing this shit vaccine on BABIES?
Lobbying – just who are these “consultants” that ran the covid operation, and why did gov listen to them and throw out ~20years of sensible pandemic planning?
Lab Leak cover-up
Virus origin cover-up
Digital ID who voted for that?
Where did all the £Billions actually go, and did they do any goos i.e. a full cost benefit analisys.
Censorship – someone needs to be held to account.
The French have McKinseyGate brewing, we need our own version re lobbying etc.
https://geopolitics.co/2022/04/02/mckinseygate-frances-shadow-government-the-rise-of-the-corporate-state/
“Death by ventilator” is another scandal that should receive far more attention.
The French have McKinseyGate brewing, we need our own version re lobbying etc.
https://geopolitics.co/2022/04/02/mckinseygate-frances-shadow-government-the-rise-of-the-corporate-state/
Fascinating reading – thank you. We all need our own national versions of this. What interesting common denominators we might discover.
3 major areas not included is making the inquiry into a joke. The fact that we were made to be terrified of breathing, the deliberate bad-mouthing and censure (and worse) of experts who spoke against the narrative and the appalling suffering endured by children are fundamental to the inquiry. It’s a fucking travesty.
60% want a specific focus on children to be included in the inquiry – there is currently no mention of impact of Covid measures on children.
As a freelance reporter, I tried to ascertain the number of children in my state (Alabama) who had died FROM Covid.
My state’s Department of Health’s Covid dashboard doesn’t break down deaths by age cohorts and the CDC’s dashboard has a few blanks in different columns. I kept reading quotes from ADPH officials and the president of our state’s pediatrician organization, stating that children were at risk from COVID so, I of course, wanted to know exactly how many children had died in 24 months.
Finally, I just emailed the media spokesperson for the ADPH. “How many children in Alabama have died from Covid?” I asked.
“We can’t provide this information” was the reply I received.
You can’t make this stuff up.
FWIW, no mainstream media journalist in our state seems interested in providing an answer to this question, which one might think is kind of important.
In November 2020, my husband and I had a consultation with our MP regarding the fiasco of his party’s Covid measures. He asked us to put our complaints in writing, which we did. It amounted to 7 pages. As you can see, it contained so much of what the Hart group wants including in the Hallet Inquiry. It makes us feel vindicated by the stance we have taken during the last two years.
The second page.
And the next
I admire your intent, but you are appealing to people who voted for lockdowns, vaccine passports and the injecting of children with experimental biological agents. They don’t care.
Actually we had another meeting with him last week. He told us he would not be having further jabs, nor allowing his children to be jabbed. It was clear that he was in touch with those MPs who are keen to hold the modellers to account. He told us that he knows that a lot of his voting patterns will come back to bite him and he talked of the problems these MPs had experienced in gaining information from the Home Office and the Department of Health and Social Care.
In the end, he may not care but at least he cannot say that he was not made aware of the facts by his constituents when it comes round to asking for our votes again.
You cannot say you didn’t try Margaret. Good for you.
Good points. Perhaps you are right. My own MP is missing in action. Voted for the lot.
So did mine. Any email response I got from him was along the lines of “Isn’t- the-government-marvellous- I- agree-with- everything-can-I-have-a-promotion-please-Boris?”
Oh, and he told me I was wrong on a few occasions, but never gave me a single thought that hadn’t come from the government.
In other words, he was a government shill, through and through.
Probably a captive of either a minor government role or the promise of one. My MP is a junior minister and is utterly useless. The way the system is set up, no MP who has a government job can possibly represent their constituents’ interests anytime those interests diverge from the political needs of the governing party.
IMO ministers should be appointed from industry on fixed term contracts with transparent incentive structures. The idea of having this bunch of clowns, ponces and perverts with their Oxford PPEs as the executive is… well we can see exactly where it has lead over the last 10 years.
Only around 140 of 650 MPs of all parties voted against the ‘ Covid Emergency Act” renewal which gives Johnson the power to do as he pleases. So that’s around 510 votes for all Johnsons’Covid policies
There we have our problem!
We no longe have a Representative Democracy in this country.
Is that really the problem? At that time were there any polls showing that the public didn’t support extensions of measures, more lockdowns more testing, more school closures etc?
The problem seems to be that far too large a proportion of the public went along with it all and claimed to support it.
Naturally all those people have shuffled away into the mists of time, whistling innocently, but at the time, they were there in great numbers.
I bet he didn’t even read it!
He may not have read it but he did send it to the Department of Health and chased up replies, of which we received two-one from Lord Bethell who has since been sacked and one from another minion. Both were boiler plate responses showing very little knowledge of the situation.
Likewise when we wrote to him about vaccines and asked about the emergency licence etc, he sent the questions to the vaccines minister Maggie Throupe. He received a response from her which was what we met with him to discuss last week.
Believe you me if this was the killer pandemic they tried to make it out to be, and the populations were being wiped out, they’d be trying to to cover it up left right and bloody centre because…you know…fear and panic. The fact that THEY have to actually create fear and panic, actually tell you blatant lies that you are a walking disease vector for a “pandemic” of minimal proportions tells you this ISN’T about health at all…only those with the mental agility above that of a rabbit dropping will see that.
If freedom is back, why can’t this poor soul see her husband?
https://www.conservativewoman.co.uk/if-freedom-is-back-why-cant-this-poor-soul-see-her-husband/
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Why the downvotes?
Like everything else to do with covid, the Insights teams, are now an actual global business, making profit, in this case by terrorising the public. Previously, government objective was to keep calm and carry on. Now it’s the opposite
I spent an hour on Saturday afternoon replying to the consultation.
I expect the whole thing will be a giant whitewash but if I don’t participate I can hardly complain after the event.
Most of the blame for our democracy falling apart lies with our politicians, media and civil servants, but some of it is down to us, because we don’t participate enough.
Yes I replied to it too, and feel the same as you about whitewash but still needing to try to participate.
I was so sorry to read about your experience above.
People in authority who were responsible for this need to be brought to account and punished.
I know realad but I doubt they will.
Unexpectedly, I’m thinking a lot today about how we left my mum to die alone in her care home (not that we had any say in the matter). It’s more than a year ago now, and I don’t think I’ll ever get over the guilt and anger at myself for not insisting on visiting her. I’d like everyone involved at government level in what’s happened for the past two years to feel “personally threatened” for the rest of their wretched lives.
Hello MDH, your comment has prompted me to log in and post a comment which I haven’t done for a very long time, I’ve been lurking and not feeling up to commenting, and the reason is the same as your anger. My father died at his care home in November last year. Once his doctor said he was dying my sister and I and Dad’s sister were allowed 24 hour access to him. He died 4 days after the doctor had seen him.
From March 20 we had been shut out of his life and limited to once a week phone conversations through locked double glazed doors. In the summer of 21 things did ease off and we were allowed as per government guidelines to take him out in his wheelchair. This was wonderful but cannot make up for all I missed and cannot rid me of my feelings of anger and failure. I don’t think that I can ever recover. I feel our government and health officials have no idea what they did to care home residents and their families (or anyone else for that matter). One day on a telephone conversation my father said to me he understood I was too busy to come and see him. I cry now just writing this. What they did to poor care home residents and their families is criminal. My poor father’s dementia meant he didn’t really know we had not been there and I have to try to take comfort in that, but I know what he and I missed and I cannot forgive.
During 2020 to end of 2021 my remaining three elderly uncles also died without my seeing them. To be truthful I didn’t have the emotional resources to support them while trying to support my poor dad as best I could. None of them died of covid.
So sorry to hear this. It’s truly terrible. My condolences.
Thank you Hypatia. My own experience is just the tip of the iceberg. All those elderly people separated from life partners, not allowed to help them feed and drink, allowed only to be there in the hours before their death. Just terrible.
I am sorry for what both you and your Dad and other family members went through Wendy. I don’t know if it is of any comfort to you but I would imagine that there are a lot of other people up and down the country with similar stories of such loss and cruelty to tell.
I cannot imagine what it must have been like and realise how fortunate I was in that sense that my parents, while elderly, continue to live independently and so my family was spared that experience.
One of my relatives was diagnosed with terminal cancer during the lockdown and was finally transferred to a hospice. Their siblings were not permitted to visit and had to stand outside the hospice in the middle of winter saying “goodbye” through a window. They couldn’t even hear each other properly.
Some of the things which have been done during the ‘pandemic’ in the name of so-called “caring” are nothing short of barbaric.
Just terrible for your family saying goodbye through a hospice window. I am glad a plucked up courage to post today as it’s been a comfort and help reading everyone’s posts. It’s a feeling of being amongst people who understand and are applauded by the horror of what has been done.
Keep coming back wendy and post, who knows your posting could help other people and they likewise might not feel so alone and that no one understands what happened to them and what they are going throug.
I wasn’t ever going to post here again, because of all the Uke/Russian rubbish, but I can’t let this pass without mentioning that I’ e started a petition for a public inquiry into the care homes horror. Please sign:
Click this link to sign the petition:
https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/614106/sponsors/new?token=D624ChxKcq6ywxJhvn0m
My petition:
Call a public inquiry into treatment of care home residents in the ‘pandemic’
Over the last two years, care home residents have been locked up, isolated, denied contact with their loved ones, and stripped of all that made their life worth living – on a pretence of keeping them ‘safe’. We need to know who was responsible for these outrages and ensure they never happen again.
Remembering my father, in care with dementia and living only for his children’s visits, and on behalf of the victims and their loved ones throughout the UK, I call for justice and restitution. We need to know how this appalling cruelty was – and still is – allowed to happen, and make sure it never happens again. Care home managers should not be allowed to cover their dreadful behaviour in a false cloak of safetyism.
Click this link to sign the petition:
https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/614106/sponsors/new?token=D624ChxKcq6ywxJhvn0m
I’ve missed you, Annie. Please start posting here again.
God bless you, dear sister.
Danny
Thank you, Danny. God bless you too.
Seconded – we have been wondering where you were.
and signed
Signed. I had missed that one.
signed
Thank you Annie, I will sign it. Also glad you have posted, I missed you too.
Hello Wendy. Thanks for your reply – I’m glad I prompted you to share your experience, even though it’s obviously very painful. People in our situation must run into thousands – if not tens of thousands. What has happened to us and our loved ones is beyond retribution. We can’t let our anger and guilt consume us, but by God it’s hard.
It is!
Terrible, when I hear people say ‘allowed’ it makes me so angry, they don’t care what they have done
Dan I feel they don’t care what they have done because they don’t know how ordinary people live. And they were pushed into defence mode by folks like the Labour Party
On last night’s BBC news, there was an item about the high number of women waiting for treatment for gynaecological problems, caused by the ‘pandemic’. This was immediately followed by some ‘expert’ telling us of more COVID symptoms and then an item on the adverse effect the last two years have had on babies and toddlers. Joining up the dots is obviously far too difficult for news editors…….
Mrs FP has a very serious uterine prolapse and has an appointment with a gynaecologist on April 25th after a 12 week wait.
As they (Covidisters, maskateers and lockdown fanatics) say: “Watch this space” but at 73 along with many thousands of other women, younger and older, they haven’t got the time and resistance to pain to watch for ever.Still: “If it saves one life, etc,ad infinitum”
Sorry to hear this, I do hope Mrs FP goes on OK. I rang our surgery the other day to ask for a simple blood test (cancer related). All I was offered was a telephone consultation in 2 weeks. As you say time is in short supply when we reach our three score years and ten !
Thank you for your concern, Javy, it’s really appreciated.
Hope things go well with your own problems.
The advertising company responsible is MullenLowe. Their executive partner Tom Knox was quoted as saying that “It’s certainly the biggest UK advertising campaign since World War Two”. He’s clearly proud of their work.
https://www.mullenlowegroupuk.com/case-studies/look-them-in-the-eyes
“It’s certainly the biggest UK advertising campaign since World War Two”
The country was put on a pretend war footing in many ways, especially rule by fiat and suspension of free speech and freedom of association and movement. But there was no war, other than the absurd “fight” against “the virus”.
It was not ‘advertising’ it was lying, black propaganda – let’s get something right shall we?
Just think of all that money Tom! Did you get a good price for your Granny as well?
Look that cancer sufferer in the eyes and tell him dying in the queue for treatment was worth it.
It’d be a terrible shame if some misfortune were to befall him.
Tom says: “The first was people management, involving persuasion and team leadership. My job is principally about getting people to do what, at first, they don’t necessarily want to.”
https://uk.linkedin.com/in/tom-knox-67627864
https://www.mullenlowegroup.com/news/tom-knox-really-matters-advertising/
So Tom, how proud do you feel knowing that all your lies caused the deaths of untold thousands of people who were unable to access NHS treatment? I guess it was all worth it in the pursuit of the ‘Campaign of the year’ prize?
You should shut your anal sphincter and give your mouth a chance.
At the very least there should be Covid rackrenting tax, where the likes of MullenLowe are forced to hand over any profits they made from this deadly scam. And I mean at the very least.
It doesn’t matter what the public wants. The public will get what the control freaks want. Which is a whitewash.
Sadly, most people will just roll over and accept it, just as they have accepted all the authoritarianism that has built up over the last 30 odd years. I am still shocked at how little protest there was when they started rolling out CCTV in the streets.
Look them in the eyes’ was a critical part of the Covid-19 campaign, which is estimated to have prevented between 1.5 – 1.8 million infections between April – December 2020, saving between 22,629 – 27,658 lives !!!!! WHAT
Simple…pure BS.
Sounds like a Neil Ferguson prediction.
Its on Gov. UK, so yes
Rather a shame that the Nudge Unit(s) couldn’t be nudged over a steep cliff (somewhere scenic of course).
No…into a burning pit!
The advantage of somewhere scenic is we could take nice photos of them as they go!
After waking op this morning to news of two dead children after vaccination in Lancashire, I end the day with news from my neighbour’s father of a man on a canal boat he met recently who told him that his wife had died straight after the injection – urged him to be thankful for every day.
My neighbour’s dad is triple jabbed – he now regrets it bitterly, has completly woken up and will have no more- his GP was ‘awake’ and told him not to be injected – he took no notice of her and now wishes he had.
So first hand reports of three deaths in one day- and they claim only 2,075 deaths since it all began….they really do think we are all totally stupid don’t they?
I’m changing to a GP who’s awake and said in March 2021 that she had no plans to be jabbed.
What stuns me about your sad report is that there is an ‘awake GP’ advising people against getting the jabs.
Despite Omicron “raging” throughout Australia, I don’t know anybody who has had it – for all the rampant “testing”.
I now know directly, or at second-hand (through a close friend or colleague), seven people who have experienced serious adverse events from the jabs.
The psychological terror this government exerted on the public is unforgiveable! Was absolutely criminal – and they should not be allowed to get away with it.
100 percent. It is criminal to use fear on the population knowing that stress kills. They will get away with it though because they are the law! They gave themselves the power to kill their own people with fear and lockdowns supposedly to save more people from disease. Pure moral relativism the excuse for evil from countless historical monsters.
Obviously I share the sentiment but in a sense it is an admission of malleability. The absurdities weren’t very difficult to spot from the start. Nor was the clear evidence that those pushing this agenda didn’t believe in it themselves. These were huge stories even in the mainstream media. If you satisfy yourself by sucking on the tit of whatever gives you a feeling of emotional comfort then don’t complain afterwards that your free will was somehow drawn from you without your consent.
The MullenLowe Group were employed by the government at considerable cost to terrorise us, at no point did they or Parliament put a stop to it. At the same time they were ignoring all of it, knowing it was disproportionate
Everything in the garden’s just lurvely, and there’s no such thing as high levels of reported deaths and injuries:
https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/changes-to-human-medicine-regulations-to-support-the-rollout-of-vaccines-one-year-review/regulations-174a-and-247a-one-year-review
Regulations 174A and 247A: one-year review2022-04-05
out of 28 “Stakeholders” asked for comments:
“Nine out of 10 respondents were not aware of any adverse consequences for patient safety as a consequence of the operation of R147A.”
(Only 28 people/organisations asked to comment – talk about an echo chamber)
“One respondent noted that without the ability to mobilise vaccine supply through a temporary authorisation, the vaccination programme would not have moved at the rapid pace at which R174A had enabled it to. They added that the very low number of adverse events occurring as a result of COVID-19 vaccination compared with very high number of successful COVID-19 vaccinations suggested that R174A has had a positive impact during this pandemic.”
You know what this is, of course, this is ‘Well, it worked so incredibly well this trial run we now have carte blanche to do it next time, and the time after that’
And, what does the phrase underlined even mean? How do you know a covid 19 vaccination is “successful”, what is your measure of success, since it doesn’t stop you getting it, passing it on etc and most of the re-infections have been in the vacinees?
Yes, it’s absolutely extraordinary, isn’t it? When I noticed it swan in on the RSS earlier today it took only a moment to know it just had to be linked here. And the reason was, it evoked a distant memory of Orwell/1984 and the passage on record production of boots – here lifted from
https://www.idpublications.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/08/THE-POLITICAL-ROLE-OF-MEMORY-AND-IDENTITY-IN-DYSTOPIAN-SOCIETIES.pdf
I think the AIDS framework is a good way to understand this agenda. Or maybe look in your garden and see how few insects there are compared to just three years ago. At some point a critical mass of people will understand that we are living under a system of death. But of course before that we will have to undergo many trials and austerities. I don’t imagine that popular culture will survive the horror to come but you never know.
Let’s not forget, that some care workers were so terrified by these evil lies from the Psyops nudge unit, that patients with dementia literally died of thirst because their carers were to scared to care for them, and the management were hiding away. What they did was literally terrorism. And, they should be prosecuted for manslaughter and terrorism.
There is also the suggestion that there is something new about this. For over a century, certainly since 1914, we in the Anglosphere have been living under an ever more refined scientifically crafted propaganda model. Especially in Britain: it was agreed that the Brits would stay in charge of the psy ops. Does anybody seriously believe that the coof was somehow an aberration and departure from the norm. But I suppose it has taught a lot of people that things aren’t what they seem and once you know that then you are spiritually compelled to investigate further.
I’m not holding my breath.
We seem to have moved on. Maybe we can thank, in some perverse fashion, Vladimir Putin’s aggression in Ukraine for this.
I still see a few benighted fools shuffling around wearing face-coverings. But these are, by now, a sad minority. Thank heavens for small mercies.
Does anyone really expect legal, moral, intellectual, economic, social, or spiritual resolution for the disaster that was the worldwide response to covid-19? I mean, personally, I think there’s an argument for the Chinese government to pay reparations on the order or twenty or thirty trillion dollars for the damage their atrocious approaches to food safety and animal welfare have caused. But I’m not waiting up nights for that to happen.
Did the UK government f-up in many of their responses to covid-19? Absolutely. There are more than a few Government ministers, senior police officers, respected public health mandarins, media editors, university professors, etc. with copious amounts of egg on their faces. Do I expect them ever to own up to these failures (let alone accept financial or legal responsibility for their panoply of errors)? No, I do not.
Are there lessons that can be learned from the pandemic response? Sure. But I hold out absolutely no hope that they will be learned. That’s not be being pessimistic. It’s me being realistic about human nature.
We will never be made whole for the losses we’ve sustained over the past thirty months. No sense in hoping we will be. Take heart from your own personal decisions to IGNORE the nonsense these imbeciles were shovelling down our throats.
That’s the best we’re ever going to get.
As soon as they feel like it they will declare another pandemic and they will impose all the bowlocks over again only it will be faster,stricter and the punishments for wrong think will be worse.
Look at climategate … which revealed the academics were fudging the numbers and deliberately creating a trend where non existed … and what did the enquiry find: “nothing to see here” and far from learning the lessons … things just got worse and worse.
The covid “enquiry” (aka whitewash) will do the same. Nothing will come out from the British “enquiry” except for total idiocy like: “the public should have followed the rules better” … and “we need to learn lessons and lockup faster, harder and be more aggressive on useless muzzles and killer jabs”,
Just take one simple example. Fauci clearly authorised the gain of function research in Wuhan. So, what would have happened in a sane world? Immediately suspended from all public duties and the CIA/FBI immediately start investigating pending prosecution of him and everyone else involved. Instead … HE RAN US COVID RESPONSE … talk of putting the vampire in charge of the bloodbank.
“Did the UK government f-up in many of their responses to covid-19? “
Oh well maybe they did but the sad truth is that it’s much worse than that. They pretended it was an unprecedented deadly pandemic and a critical public health emergency, when it was clearly no such thing. I am convinced they lied, from very early on, maybe even the start. And they lied BIG. Folly and evil. Way more than a cock-up.
The Chinese are not solely responsible. Fauci is very much at the centre of all this with his outsourcing of gain of function research. If the CIA are not responsible I do not know who is.
I feel sad about those still wearing face coverings. I saw a security guard standing outside doing some shitty job wearing a mask and can you imagine you go home every night fearful that you might catch a deadly disease.. Hopefully there will be enough elan vitae left in western countries to challenge this assault. Trump said a couple of years ago that the most pressing question of our time is, does the west have the will to survive or not.We are about to reach that point where the question will be asked in a very direct way.
China has been spreading woke ideology throughout our Universities and the Russians Climate non-science as well. We’ve been under a massive assault for decades, and all our government & “intelligence” services did was to embrace the woke and climate idiocy. They have literally been colluding with the enemy.
The cleaner at my gym, an African guy, wears one for work every night when I’m there. I always feel like encouraging him to take it off but he might have chosen to himself. Usually there’s no one else there, it’s so ridiculous. It makes me feel like those Davoscunts having their drinks served by masked waiters. Masks for the underclass. Disgusting.
You just have to remember that when shit goes down then highly competent people get together or they don’t We are at that point where it isn’t a joke anymore. Our situation is going to deteriorate rapidly in the next few days economically and in every other way We have been lucky in that we have been able to piss about for years as an island. The best people need to get organised against the assault to come. In a sense it is too late once the hunger sets in.
Perhaps people will wake up when they get their end-of-year electricity and gas bills!
Just get wise to it now because if you don’t then we are screwed. We can untie around this.
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I can’t even engage with the Covid-19 Inquiry. I remember being quite invested in the Hutton Inquiry, then the Iraq Inquiry. I’m not making that mistake again.
…..although it could be a good thing for the government to see just how many people feel sufficiently exercised by the past 2 years that they have taken the trouble to put their opinions/ feelings in print. The mistake is not to respond when given an opportunity. You are a regular contributer here with plenty to say and your experiences described to fellow posters…surely you could respond on behalf of those not aware of how to respond……those without a voice who would have plenty to say!
I entered all the points that HART were making. Retirement means your options for fun are somewhat reduced
For my own part, I asked for actions by the police to be reviewed. It would appear that they arbitrarily chose what to enforce and who to enforce. They need a shot across their bows
It was terrible to use these methods to control the public, many of whom were already frightened. The propaganda still continues and many are still frightened.
The same tactics are being used to ‘nudge’ us on the ‘climate emergency’, but so many do not realise it and continue to believe the hype.
Indeed Jack. Perhaps the worst aspect of the so-called “climate emergency” is the indoctrination of our kids in schools which has been going on for far too long.
Indeed there does need to be a rigorous inquiry but we also need penalties. Let us also not forget that government, especially Boris, acted in support of their globalist pals who seek absolute control over us in pursuit of their evil ends.
There will be no penalties. The inquiry will find that that “no individuals were responsible, it was a systemic failure and lessons will be learned”. Ho bloody ho ho.
Fear causes stress. Stress kills. The government knew this but used fear anyway. In my view that is tantamount to state murder. The government knew full well that the stress it caused would cause disease and in some cases death but decided that it would use this tactic anyway because clearly they believed the use of fear in this case was justified. This is a delibate act that caused suffering. It cannot be allowed to happen again and those responsbile must be punished accordingly.
I suspect the worst affected by the evil PsyOps campaign launched against the British people aren’t even aware that their mental health was deliberately damaged by SAGE and the authoritarians in Government.
does Anyone know which article Mark Steyn was referring to on GB news which showed a graph of negative effectiveness of vax for different demographics please? I can’t find it yet. Thanks
The easy control & manipulation of people through propaganda was shocking to me and certainly explains peoples behavior in the 2nd WW. With total control of media they controlled the narrative and thus the mass of people. Many western governments are currently enacting laws to be able to censor social media. I think that it is obvious that with social media they have lost the ability to control the narrative. These censorship laws are being enacted with the guise of preventing hate speech and protecting the innocent. After 2 years of psyops terrifying innocent people, I think we need protection from our governments, not people on social media.
”…the nudge unit: controls on its techniques are vital.”
”Controls” instigated by whom, exactly? The government gave them the power in the first place – does anyone seriously think they’ll suddenly admit this ”unit” needs controlling?