There are two broad camps in the debate over why Russia invaded Ukraine. Call them the ‘Mearsheimer camp’ and the ‘non-Mearsheimer camp’.
Those in the ‘Mearsheimer camp’, notably John Mearsheimer himself, believe the primary motivation for Russia’s invasion of Ukraine was opposition to the actions of Ukraine’s post-Maidan Government as regards NATO membership and the treatment of ethnically Russian Ukrainians.
By contrast, those in the ‘non-Mearsheimer camp’ believe the primary motivation for Russia’s invasion of Ukraine was revanchism/imperialism on the part of Vladimir Putin. If I understand them correctly, they believe Putin would have invaded Ukraine sooner or later, even if we’d listened to the ‘Mearsheimer camp’.
Now, the ‘Mearsheimer camp’ has a straightforward plan for what Ukraine and the West should have done to avoid the present crisis. It goes something like this: Ukraine becomes a neutral state, recognises Crimea and the two breakaway republics in the East, and promises to respect the rights of ethnically Russian Ukrainians.
Of course, we can’t be sure that this plan would have worked. It’s entirely possible that even if Ukraine had done everything mentioned above, Russia still would have launched an invasion. (Note: I’m using “Ukraine” as a shorthand for “Ukraine and the West”.)
However, there’s one thing we can be sure of: Ukraine didn’t do those things, and Russia did launch an invasion. What we know, in other words, is that the Ukraine’s actual policy did not forestall Russian aggression.
Which raises the question: What do people in the ‘non-Mearsheimer camp’ believe Ukraine should have done instead? Even if we blame Russia entirely, an invasion cannot be considered a good outcome for Ukraine, so it’s surely worth asking how it could have been avoided.
From what I’ve seen, those in the ‘non-Mearsheimer camp’ spend a lot of time talking about how awful Putin is, but don’t seem to spend much time talking about what Ukraine should have done, given how awful he is. (Note: I’m not saying they’re wrong about Putin. Exactly how awful Putin is isn’t my main concern.)
Perhaps they would say that Ukraine should have asked for even more military aid in the years since 2014, knowing that an invasion was coming soon. Of course, if they’re right about Putin’s intentions, this might have spurred him to invade even sooner.
Or perhaps they would say there’s nothing Ukraine could have done to avoid a Russian invasion (short of allowing Russia to annex the entire country). To be clear: this would mean that every other possible outcome would have been as bad or worse than the current one, which seems difficult to believe.
But maybe they’re right. However, to justify not at least trying the plan favoured by the ‘Mearsheimer camp’ then requires an extremely strong argument. They have to explain why implementing that plan would have had worse consequences than Russian artillery fire raining down on Ukrainian cities and refugees fleeing the country en masse.
Until someone in the ‘non-Mearsheimer camp’ explains what Ukraine and the West should have done after 2014, or why the plan favoured by the ‘Mearsheimer camp’ wasn’t even worth trying, I’ll remain sceptical of their position.
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This could be nothing, it could be just paranoia because of what has gone down in the recent past and what awake people know is intended by the globalists. Further to the video I shared with Maria Zeeeeee talking to Stew Peters about what’s occurring with the Australian military, a recruitment ad has been released of them ”attacking” unruly civilians. Anyone know if this is normal for military? Nothing to see here??
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11833987/Australian-Army-releases-recruitment-ad-showing-soldiers-attacking-civilians-not-foreign-enemies.html
They do seem to be aiming for a certain type of recruit. Our very own Metropolitan Police seem to have a lot of violent psychopaths among their ranks. When they are not sharing violent fantasies on WhatsApp they are stalking and attacking vulnerable women.
Yes gone are the Dixon of Dock Green days 😵💫
Dan Andrews will be creaming his pants ! Normal citizens would not apply for such jobs !
The monetary system is collapsing. And that will bring chaos, so I would not be surprised that governments are preparing for the worst.
I think that’s the nub of this, Stewart. It’s not a question of ‘if’ but a question of ‘when’. The monetary system collapses, the internet is shut down, soldiers appear on the streets, curfew is introduced, new viruses appear, mandatory vaxxes, people are herded into 15 min cities, all for our health and safety…classic totalitarian playbook.
Anything goes in this crazy clown world, Mogs. I wouldn’t put it past them. I would hope though that not every single soldier, seaman or airman is compromised. This video seems to be not so much ‘attacking’ civilians but trying to contain what is obviously meant to be a riot. I wonder what would incense people so much that they would attack soldiers? Hmmm, difficult that one. One disturbing bit was the dog handler – they slowed down the sound and it sounded, to my ears anyway, like an Orc out of LOTRs. Why? And the awful cheery ‘They can’t break through the wall’ at the end the subtext of which would be ‘We can control the people’.
Yes I think given what the world has witnessed and citizens have personally experienced over the last few years it is totally unsurprising if people are now on high alert for anything remotely concerning or even different. Especially as Australia was basically transformed into ‘Prison Island’ and the disproportionate, brutal manner in which the police turned on ordinary civilians. We’ve seen just what governments the world over are now capable of, and they are not backwards in coming forwards about showing their utter contempt for the public, whom they treat just like cattle. Canada was another obvious example, particularly when the truckers were peacefully protesting. Did we ever find out who those mystery goons were that Turdeau recruited to aid the police in attacking and ultimately breaking up the protest? Rumours were going around but I don’t know if anything was confirmed, but they certainly didn’t appear to be regular police officers.
So nothing would surprise me at this stage as the West seems to have demonstrated nicely just how far they are prepared to go and what tyranny they are capable of if it means asserting control and corralling the masses ( herds ) to wherever they want them to go. The sooner regular folk accept the reality on the ground, that their governments hate them, at best seeing them as nothing more than livestock and a means to an ends ( apart from when an election is coming up of course ) the better, as forewarned is forearmed.
Why do you think tens of thousands of hostile foreign men of fighting age are being brought here?
Indeed. A point I have been making for months.
Pertaining to Dr McCullough’s piece on autoimmunity above, this short article is a good description of what happens to the body once the mRNA has been injected. It’s pretty technical in parts but the author provides a glossary in the comments section;
”Because of the codon-optimization of the mRNA that generates the Spike protein, there is no proof that the Spike protein even adopts a conformation anything like what’s found on the virus. What you get instead is a giant heap of junk protein with toxic and amyloidogenic peptides along its length that are activated when the protein is cleaved and digested by host enzymes. This is exacerbated by the extremely poor purity of the mRNA in these vaccines, where as much as half of the mRNA is not even fully intact and could never translate into full-length Spike in the first place.
When people receive these mRNA vaccines, the lipid nanoparticles drain through veins and capillary beds into the circulatory system, where they travel through the body and transfect the heart, brain, bone marrow, and the rest of the vital organs, as well as reproductive tissues, potentially leading to myocarditis and permanent heart scarring, encephalitis, sterility, and/or autoimmune injury of hematopoietic progenitor cells in the marrow, which could lead to lasting lymphopenia and immunodeficiency. Every cell transfected by the lipid nanoparticles produces Spike proteins and displays them on its surface, which paints a giant bullseye on those cells for the immune system to come and attack. If that’s your brain, you have brain inflammation. If that’s your heart, you get heart inflammation. Essentially, by using human cells as bioreactors to manufacture a foreign protein, you are pasting a giant Kick Me sign on each and every one of the transfected cells.”
https://iceni.substack.com/p/psa-why-you-shouldnt-take-the-vaccine#details
Bloody hell 😳
Excellent article by Norman Fenton, the FOI response is particularly interesting (link to video at the end of the article).
Claims the unvaccinated were at higher risk of hospitalisation and death were based on deliberately murky record keeping
https://wherearethenumbers.substack.com/p/claims-the-unvaccinated-were-at-higher
Whilst I do not condone wilful vandalism, if these cameras are being installed without democratic consent, then it is perfectly reasonable for the ‘demos’ to take corrective action.
I am delighted to hear this .Its about time and a lot more should be encouraged .
We all need to be more French.!!!!
Civil disobedience is a symptom of frustration with our supposed democracy.
In this case the whole ULEZ expansion has not been embraced by the poor devils who will have to pay it .Khan says that those who do not support this are right wing extremists .
In which case thats me !!
.I dont live in Greater London but it seems this all about setting up infrastructure for 15 minute cites and road pricing .AND the fxxxking useless tools in Westminster are supporting this under some kind of clean cities initiative.
BE MORE REVOLTING if this is not the kind of place you want these cnuts to make the UK…..and relax ..deep breathes ..
100% It’s civil *obedience* that is the downfall of humanity. Well, along with general apathy and laziness. More people need to practice civil disobedience because I’d argue that is a moral obligation, especially in the current climate. Whatever your sex, you need to grow a pair! 🙂
Spot on !!! OH I cant ne arsed as I am watching the latest Masked Singer episode …
Brave new world …SOMA for the masses .
We all need to wake up !!!
100% in support.
Asserting one’s sovereignty is the lawful action to take. Peacefully of course. Dismantling the apparatus of the state to reassert one’s sovereignty is therefore valid.
The link to a McCulloch entry https://petermcculloughmd.substack.com/p/why-the-body-attacks-itself-after/comment/13412697 was worth a look, including the comments re diet supplements etc.
“Matt Hancock should be arrested for wilful misconduct in public office” – The slithy tove can – and must – be dragged before a Select Committee and made to answer for his actions and the vast hurt they have caused, says Allison Pearson in the Telegraph.
So she wants him to get off lightly
What about Boris Johnson, Sunak, Gove, Patel?
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Answer in front of a Select Committee. Oh, that’s really sticking it to Midazolam. And when he’s spewed out a shop load of lies he can walk away, everything under the carpet and off we jolly well go.
For crying out loud.
“How heat pumps leave some homes so cold people are ripping them out – and even happy owners urge caution: Is the plan to replace our boilers wise?”
These articles are all very well and it is good that people are recognising the reality and limitations of heat pumps but there is no sign that the Gov is going to relent. The sale of Oil Boilers is due to be banned from 25/26 and gas boilers from 2035 with most new build homes needing a heat pump from 2025. With no sign that the Gov is relenting on this policy, clearly the heating industry is gearing up now to move away from conventional oil and gas boilers. As the conventional boiler industry declines it may be hard to find spares to keep old boilers working and it will not be long before we are at the situation where if your old boiler dies the only option is a heat pump.
Already builders in this area have been told they cannot fit heat pumps in some projects because the local electric infrastructure and supply is inadequate and cannot support the operation of heat pumps. Unless there is a rapid reversal of this policy by the Gov we look destined for a messy and cold future as far as domestic heating is concerned.
You are sadly right I fear. I think there’s a disconnect between people’s views and what they do when they vote and a general feeling of either powerlessness or some kind of trust that whatever political party they support couldn’t possibly do anything monumentally stupid – the same mistaken beliefs that allowed the covid folly and evil to happen.
“we look destined for a messy and cold future”
That’s it. End of.
https://www.n-tv.de/wirtschaft/Haelfte-der-Gebaeude-fuer-Waermepumpe-untauglich-article23968312.html
A new mainstream study out in Germany which calculates that half the housing stock is unsuitable for heatpumps.
Only heavily cladded and insulated budings are.
Now transfer that to the much older and much more unsuited UK housing stock.
And to the unsuitability and harm that excessive cladding and insulation will result in at this housing stock.
At least, and unlike Mrs. May, ze Germans are looking into this a bit deeper BEFORE they are putting anything into law here.
Anybody home in Westminster?
In honour of Mark Steyn and all he did for us, I am including the petition for an inquiry into Ofcom’s guidance of broadcasting standards here. I don’t anticipate anything major will change and I can anticipate the usual bland government response that seems to say ‘something’ while in reality saying ‘nothing’ or Sweet FA in more Anglo-Saxon parlance. We keep chipping away at the edifice and one day, god willing, it will fall otherwise we’re well and truly…
https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/633007
Given Ofcom’s boss was at the WEF shindig the other week, the organisation needs to be abolished and a much lighter touch regulator replace it. Ofcom is just another example, among many, of the overreach of big government.
What firkin business had the Director of Ofcom have at a WEF knees up and obviously funded with taxpayers money?
Thanks for the link Aethelred. Signed.
A young man who had to give up football because he was injured by a medical intervention that was of no benefit to him: –
‘Sammy’s career as a defender took a dramatic turn in 2021 after a Covid-19 vaccine caused blood clots in his lungs and stopped him from playing football professionally. But he said he’s always been a natural leader and has high hopes for his career as a manager.’
https://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/uk-news/uks-youngest-football-manager-21-26425041
I wish him all the best for his career as a football manager.
Yes. In my wider circle of friends of friends and friends of family, I know of a trainee nurse whose lungs were wrecked after a single Pfizer jab. She was told she must never have another jab. Of course that meant she could no longer be a nurse. Given she now suffers severe asthma and struggles to climb the stairs, the job is off the table now anyway. She was 19 when sh had the jab. Her entire life shattered.
That’s awful. Is she considering legal action?
January 6 – The Tucker Tapes
Thank you to the DS team for bringing J6 onto this forum. While perhaps not of obvious immediate interest to us in the UK and Europe, I would argue that in the USA it tops the charts in terms of MSM propaganda success, amongst some very strong competition (Covid, Ukraine, climate, etc). And in terms of pure evil (innocent people going to jail and/or being driven to suicide) it also scores highly. But the house of cards may be about to fall…
For anyone who hasn’t been following the story, the attached piece by Julie Kelly from June 2022 is a good introduction.
January 6 for Non-Dummies › American Greatness (amgreatness.com)
The January 6 tapes are the equivalent of the Lockdown Files in the USA. They change everything.
Another JC interview: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G6ioZDf5QO8&list=WL&index=5 The last 20 minutes is well worth listening to.
“Weight loss jab to be offered to tens of thousands of obese people on the NHS”
So – total hysteria about ‘off-label’ use of IVM to treat a viral disease, yet a drug developed for diabetics is now de rigueur for flab? At £18 a dose? Riiiight…
I strongly suspect that the long term damages this drug will generate are at the moment a complete secret and will only be revealed when it is too late.
I would urge anyone who is very fat to lose weight so they can enjoy life more and for longer, if asked my opinion – but I think we’ve had enough of “public health” for now so think the state should leave people to make their own health decisions. But I would be very sceptical of taking any kind of miracle weight loss drug – you may well be better off remaining fat.
The Eugyppius piece is very lame and useless. This one is much more appropriate, also in the China warmongering.
https://caitlinjohnstone.com/2023/03/08/attack-of-the-pro-ukrainian-group-notes-from-the-edge-of-the-narrative-matrix/
“The latest New York Times report on the Nord Stream pipeline bombing is something else. According to NYT’s anonymous US government sources, the pipelines were blown up by a “pro-Ukrainian group” who had no known connections to any military or intelligence agency, but somehow had all the information, skills, diving equipment and military explosives necessary to carry out such an attack.
It’s actually insulting how stupid it is. It reads like a small child lying about who broke the lamp in the living room; “Uhh, some bad guy came in and broke it, then he left. He was wearing a black cape and had a twirly mustache.” At least respect us enough to make up a better lie than “Yeah it turns out it was just some random people with a boat, man! It’s crazy I know!”
They literally wrote an entire article without ever addressing how bizarre it is to just keep referring to the alleged perpetrators as just a “group”. Like that’s a thing. “Yeah you know, one of those Groups we’ve all been hearing about in the news. You know Groups, they sail around the world destroying international undersea energy infrastructure.””
…Lots of comments all over the place..I don’t think anyone is buying it…this piece by Aaron Mate points out that the official narrative has consistently said it had to be a State Sponsored Player….so how come it suddenly isn’t…and as you say is just a ‘group’?
https://mate.substack.com/p/in-nord-stream-attack-us-officials
In Nord Stream attack, US officials use proxy media to blame proxy UkraineOne month after Seymour Hersh reported that the US blew up the Nord Stream pipelines, US officials find a scapegoat in Ukraine and stenographers in the New York Times.
Also Sy Hersh has said he’s putting out more information next week…so let’s see what that brings!!
Curved Ball !! Watched Bart Sibrel on Delingpod recently with very strong case that the Apollo Moon landings were faked ! Then last night John Wards still excellent blog dropped me onto a piece in his comment section Doggie Moonwaggie I think it was called ( I will check ) I’m now convinced they never happened !! One question though ( Bart did explain but I need more info) Why have Russia / China etc not blown the gaff ????
Very interesting – having only become awake to the evil deeds of TPTB over the last 3 years or so, I am keen to dig deeper into a number of so-called “conspiracy theories”, of which the moon landing is one.
Re the Russia / China question, I would speculate that, from a blackmail / influence point of view, they might judge it better not to blow the gaff but to use the threat of doing so to obtain concessions from the US.
It’s Wagging the Moondoggie , I could post it on here but I’m useless , anyway MM thanks for your interest & I’m similar to you but I never have trusted the 9/11 story & JFK, s demise has always bugged me ( there is a docu called The Rich Man’s Game that covers that & it’s awesome ! Anyway back to the Moon Landings ! As Sibrel says if they were faked it’s the biggest story since Jesus , Nothing can ever be the same ( actually it never will be but you get my drift ) 👍
Thanks Freddy – will definitely take a look…
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The Equality Act petition is over the 100,000 votes at 15:51.
Yey!! Not that I’m holding my breath either mind… :-/
https://linksharing.samsungcloud.com/5Jb1j0Jnszzf
If you can open this link the title is:
“Let Us Pray.”
It is a deliberate split screen video.
Just had that sent to me with no sound !
Shooting in Hamburg Germany ! ITN News ( on near me ) full of gravitas !
Watch Out – ARCTURUS is about !! Here we go once more FFS !!!