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by Jonathan Barr
17 June 2021 2:01 AM

  • “Leaked Whitehall document hints at ‘the new normal’ after July 19th” – MailOnline’s report on the leaked Whitehall paper that offers a glimpse of a ‘new normal’ which may await the country beyond July 19th. It includes masks, working from home and travel quarantine
  • “Freedom Day wont be delayed beyond July 19th and face mask laws will be scrapped” – Matt Hancock has told MPs that freedom day will not be delayed beyond July 19th and that after that the laws will fall away, according to the Sun. This means the end of masks on trains and buses and of fines for not covering up.
  • “Return of holidays abroad for people who are fully vaccinated” – In plans currently under consideration, double-jabbed Brits could be allowed to travel to amber listed countries without having to quarantine on their return, the Telegraph reports
  • “Covid modelling that pushed back June 21st was based on out-of-date data” – The models used in Monday’s press conference were based on out-of-date estimates of vaccine effectiveness, says Sarah Knapton in the Telegraph, which have subsequently been adjusted upwards
  • “‘Covid Pass’ to open up summer of sport” – By means of the Covid Pass app, fans will be able to show they have either had both jabs, a recent negative test or recovered from the virus in the last six months in order to attend sporting events, the Daily Mail reports. Big Brother Watch points out that the ‘official review’ has yet to be completed
  • “NHS set to be given green light to use revolutionary Covid drug taken by Donald Trump” – The Regeneron antibody cocktails which reportedly worked so well for Donald Trump are expected to get the go ahead in the U.K., according to the Express
  • “COVID-19 vaccine doubters more likely to be convinced if offered a choice of jab” – A study by the London School of Hygiene and Tropical Medicine found that nearly a quarter of those who were unsure about the jab said they could be convinced by being given a choice of vaccines, the Telegraph reports. By contrast, only 11% said they could be swayed by NHS advice
  • “Social worker warns care home staff risk assault charges over new mask rules” – Social worker Valerie Nelson has warned that care home staff could risk assault charges if they coerce elderly residents to wear masks, the Herald reports
  • “Debate: is it ethical to make vaccines compulsory for care home staff?” – John Harris and Julian Savulescu debate the question of mandatory jabs for care home staff in the Telegraph
  • “Myocarditis followed by COVID-19 vaccines: A cause for concern or a reversible minor effect?” – A letter in BMJ from Hamid Merchant on the risk of myocarditis from the vaccines
  • “Why we need the Great Reset” – “The terrible truth about the Great Reset is that there is no Great Reset,” says Peter Franklin in UnHerd
  • “‘Freedom day’ or not, are we really returning to normal?” – Michael Curzon points out in Bournbrook that some things don’t end when lockdown ‘ends’
  • “Has Boris caught Stockholm syndrome after being captured by Bond villains?” – “It’s no use looking for a James Bond to free Boris miraculously from his captivity,” says Jon Dobinson, Co-founder of Recovery, in Think Scotland. “We will have to learn once again to value freedom for ourselves”
  • “Many scoffed at the claim it will be hard to regain our freedoms. Yet Ministers show no sign of handing them back” – Some would be happy to continue with Covid restrictions “in perpetuity” says Emily Carver for Conservative Home. “It is terrifying and depressing in equal measure to think that such extreme views may be reflected in the Government’s current strategy”
  • “Professor’s ‘unforgivable’ wrong vaccine advice to BBC’s child viewers” – Professor Devi Sridhar has come under fire after she told the BBC’s Newsround – a television programme for children – that the Pfizer jab was “100% safe”, a claim which the BBC has now retracted, according to Sally Beck in the Conservative Woman
  • “Answering those pesky lockdown questions – a User’s Guide” – Paul Stilwell reviews the User Guide, adopted by all “spouters of public health platitudes” when engaging with lockdown sceptics, for the Conservative Woman
  • “Child sacrifice on the altar of Big Pharma” – During the Second World War, our ancestors “faced the danger themselves and put their children out of harm’s way” writes the Conservative Woman’s Elephant City. “Now, as we set about vaccinating our children against COVID-19, we are doing the exact opposite”
  • “Delta Farce: How Boris Johnson’s incompetent handling of the new variant extended lockdown” – A Twitter thread about the Government’s response to the Indian ‘Delta’ variant
  • “No Jab No Job – WEU leads the way in defending workers rights” – Godfrey Bloom discusses ‘No Jab, No Job’ polices with Stephen Morris of the Workers of England Union
  • “Conservatives blast Trudeau over 10-hour quarantine in ‘special’ Ottawa hotel” – Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau only had to spend 10 hours in quarantine, the Post Millennial says, as he got his COVID-19 test back overnight in what would appear to be a record turnaround. His political opponents were not impressed
  • “More evidence suggests COVID-19 was in U.S. by Christmas 2019” – A new analysis of blood samples from 24,000 Americans taken early last year is the latest and largest study to suggest that Covid appeared in the U.S. in December 2019, Medical Xpress reports
  • “Florida Governor DeSantis Pardons All Who Violated Covid Health Guidelines” – Governor Ron DeSantis has pardoned all those penalised for violating Covid health guidelines in Florida, Forbes reports. “A recognition,” says the Governor, “that a lot of this stuff was way, way overboard”
  • “ I Taught Online School This Year. It Was a Disgrace” – “Remote learning needs to end with the pandemic,” says fourth grade teacher Lelac Almagor in the New York Times
  • “Defining Down Freedom” – “COVID-19 is enabling politicians to turn freedom from an individual right into a conditional bureaucratic dispensation,” writes James Bovard at the AIER
  • “Has the Government Forgotten How Society Works?” – The behaviour of governments in response to Covid is “not unprecedented”, says Ethan Yang at AIER. “For the past hundred years or more, our government has become increasingly out of touch with sound economic principles and social science”
  • “Washington’s Inoculation Gamble” – Julius Reuchel does what public health authorities have refused to do and calculates the “odds of death from the virus so you can weigh those odds against the risks of getting the jab”
  • “The stars aligned and Andrew Cuomo let some real science slip out” – “If you get a vaccine, you don’t have to worry about unvaccinated people,” the New York Governor Andrew Cuomo said. “You may not be vaccinated, but you don’t pose a risk to me because I am vaccinated. So if you are vaccinated, what do you worry about?”
  • “Andrew Cuomo’s Call for Living Life Is Way Too Little, Too Late” – “Life is about interacting,” says Governor Cuomo. “Make no mistake,” says Jeffrey Tucker in RealClearMarkets, his new rhetoric “isn’t really about science but politics. Restrictions were no longer tenable”
  • “‘Pandemic puppies’ experiencing behaviour challenges” – A new study suggests that puppies adopted by Americans working from home throughout the pandemic are suffering from stress and anxiety as their owners return to work, according to the Daily Mail
  • “Debate has become yet another casualty of COVID-19, we must relearn the ability to argue, but then smile and shake hands” – “Post-Covid, we must again learn to disagree passionately but amicably, not simply carry on flinging mindless insults,” writes John Scott Lewinski in RT
  • “Costa Rica rejects delivery of Sinovac COVID-19 vaccine, says it is not effective enough” – Costa Rican health authorities have said that after studying the available clinical studies they have decided to reject the Sinovac Biotech’s vaccine for the time being as it’s not effective enough, Reuters reports
  • “Kim warns of ‘tense’ food situation, longer Covid lockdown” – While opening a political conference on rescuing a broken economy, North Korean leader Kim Jong Un warned of potential food shortages and urged the country to brace for extended restrictions. He neglected to mention that North Koreans have been starving since long before the pandemic
  • “Tokyo Olympics will need bailout if games go ahead without spectators” – According to the FT, the Olympics will need a bailout of about £572 million if paying spectators are not allowed in to watch the games
  • “Full interview with retired Lieutenant-Colonel David Redman on the COVID-19 pandemic lockdowns” – Lieutenant-Colonel David Redman brings his experience of emergency management to bear on the question of the COVID-19 response
  • “The Truth is the Government hasn’t got a systematic way of showing us the cost benefit of the measure they propose” – “We have transformed this society for the worse,” said Steve Baker MP in last night’s debate about extending the Covid restrictions

Here @SteveBakerHW makes many crucial points; damages of lockdowns, impacts Hospitality, Nudge Units as per @BareReality A State Of Fear Polling & why we need Freedom back or country changed forever. Hug not dance?

We should be fully #OpenForAll everywhere pic.twitter.com/bBBsR2atRx

— Alan D Miller (@alanvibe) June 16, 2021
  • “By any measure the emergency has passed and yet freedoms are still withheld” – “The Government has set a disastrous precedent in terms of the future of liberty in these islands,” said Desmond Swayne MP in last night’s debate

By any measure the emergency has passed and yet freedoms are still withheld.

The Government will not allow us to assess for ourselves the risks that we are prepared to encounter in our everyday lives. The Government does not trust the people that it governs. pic.twitter.com/PINgC61arb

— rt hon Sir Desmond Swayne TD MP (@DesmondSwayne) June 16, 2021
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Hugh
Hugh
3 years ago

“No decisions taken on guidelines after July 19th”, “The delays will save thousands of lives”. (Daily Mail).

So they are planning restrictions after July 19th – therefore the government lied or did not know what they were talking about when they said that vaccines and drugs are the way out of this, and don’t deserve to be trusted on other things.

As for saving thousands of lives, apart from no evidence that thousands will die from the delta variant of the Chinese virus, I should add that I heard from a former nurse that none of the restrictions make any difference. The examples of Florida, South Dakota and for that matter Peru, would appear to bear this out. So more lies from the government.

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Mike Yeadon
Mike Yeadon
3 years ago
Reply to  Hugh

If you care to watch my interview with Del Bigtree on his Highwire channel, you’ll see me demolish every central narrative claim Govt or SAGE has made.
Every single one is untrue. As those originally making the claim are well informed, they know they’re untrue thus they’re lying.

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eastender53
eastender53
3 years ago
Reply to  Mike Yeadon

Watched it. Brilliant. Clear, accurate, measured. Delivered with obvious commitment and I suspect not a little personal pain.

You are a true champion. The Scientific counterpart of Jonathan Sumption and his views on Law and Liberty.

Please keepmit up. The Fauci emails are just the startmof the unravelling of this farrago of deceit.

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SilentP
SilentP
3 years ago
Reply to  Mike Yeadon

Mike – I have sent this link of your interview

https://thehighwire.com/videos/episode-219-in-harms-way/

to quite a few people as it is the most comprehensive step by step demolition of the official narrative that has appeared to date.

Those people were all at least partially receptive to your message. The big question is how to get the message heard and accepted by the rest of the receptive minority and by the majority, many of whom will have a natural aversion to accepting it?

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MTF
MTF
3 years ago
Reply to  Mike Yeadon

Well I finally got through all 90 minutes. You are certainly an extremely articulate and organised speaker – as I would expect from someone with your track record.

I believe your fundamental argument is:

  • There are these propositions made by governments throughout the world: the virus is dangerous, treatments don’t work, lockdowns and masks do work, asymptomatic transmission is possible, PCR testing is useful for diagnosis and survey, variants are significantly different, vaccines work and are safe.
  • You know for certain that these are all lies.
  • The only way for all these governments to perpetrate the same lies is some kind of international conspiracy.
  • Whoever is behind this conspiracy may be evil and their end goal may be to kill millions, possibly billions, of people.

Is this a fair summary? Correct me if I am wrong.

Now consider the alternative hypothesis that you are mistaken. The reason that all the world’s governments are pushing the same propositions is because they are true or at least plausible. It is certainly simpler!

  • I am not an expert in any of the relevant science so I can’t respond responsibly to all of the “lies” but there are many people who are just as expert as yourself who would dispute each one.
  • Some of your assertions are debatable regardless of expertise. E.g. The deadliness of a virus depends on more than the infection fatality rate – transmissibility is just as important.
  • This supposed global conspiracy involves governments as diverse as Europe, the USA, China and Russia. It also involves most of the scientific establishment in all these countries. What could possibly unite them in such a devious plan?
  • The virus first appeared in late 2019. Most of the propositions you mention were being adopted by governments round the world by March 2020. Is it plausible that such a complicated global conspiracy could be implemented in less than six months?
  • Why would anyone want to kill billions of people? There have been plenty of mass murderers but they had reasons, appalling reasons, but reasons. This supposed project seems to have no reason.
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Julian
Julian
3 years ago
Reply to  MTF

I don’t agree with all Dr Yeadon’s points, though I do agree the reaction to covid has been wrong-headed

“The virus first appeared in late 2019. Most of the propositions you mention were being adopted by governments round the world by March 2020. Is it plausible that such a complicated global conspiracy could be implemented in less than six months?”
Isn’t it quite plausible that a general plan existed years ago and covid was then seen as the perfect opportunity?

“This supposed global conspiracy involves governments as diverse as Europe, the USA, China and Russia. It also involves most of the scientific establishment in all these countries. What could possibly unite them in such a devious plan?”
The love of power? Rivals often form alliances, which may or may not last, but often don’t benefit the ordinary citizen much (e.g. many of the pointless wars from history)

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Z.Pray
Z.Pray
3 years ago
Reply to  MTF

Forgive me for barging in but, I’d like to offer my thoughts on your last points. Having said that, be assured I’m absolutely no one. Furthermore, I’ve been investigating the genesis of many of these issues for decades.
There have always been those who aspire to control others, particularly when they can find an issue that can be weaponised for that purpose. It seems Thomas Malthus’s fears of overpopulation with resultant disease, famine, disease and war was adopted by the early eugenicists. I think it’s fair to say many fear the ‘mob’, particularly if and when they become unruly through deprivation. The early Fabians had similar fears presenting an interesting dichotomy between their socialist leanings for justice and their repulsion for the feral and disorderly. I expect you are aware that the Nazis borrowed their sterilizing and culling of their undesirables from the USA and from other enlightened European countries.
Another thread to our present predicament is the abandoning of the gold standard in 1971. However primitive it may seem, gold ingots at least offers some discipline for politicians and their economists and treasurers to keep within some fiscal sanity. However, it wasn’t long before the fiat currency system was abused – and has been ever since – leaving us with our present imminent, catastrophic, life-changing economic crash.
I am what is termed a ‘useless eater.’ That is, like may of may age; I am retired and no longer contribute to the economy. There is no money to pay my, what is laughingly called, ‘benefits’, i.e. pension. I believe the UK was more than £2 trillion in debt even before suffering the economic hammering known as lockdown – a tactic to further enslave us and transfer power and earning-power from the poor to benefit the rich and their coffers.      
This may well be one of the many reasons why ‘vax passports’ are being encouraged, which will morph into digital currency devices – alongside their 24/7 surveillance, social control function. Cash will be illegal.
Btw, AI, which has been developed since whenever, will replace the need for both the deserving and undeserving poor, and eventually skilled people. AI is far more economical than people. By culling those who are no longer needed, the planet will be saved from pollution. It will give the planet a chance to regenerate – hence the environmental movement has been lured into campaigning for this new, cleaner, ‘Build Back Better,’ more orderly world. You can trace the trajectory of these plans to the UN’s Agenda 21/30, which most countries signed in 1992. Hence, our institutions, local governments, national governments, IMF, World Bank, WHO, Big Tech companies, Military, Big Pharma etc., are now staffed mainly with adherents. They all claim to be saving the planet – but as per usual – mainly for the elite.
And who are the elite? The ‘usual suspects’ – the mega-wealthy and powerful who avoid publicity and who have, in all probability, been behind and profited from all the major confrontations and wars for centuries. There’s no profit from normality, only from disruption. Knock down the old and replace with something new and sparkling. Although, according to the World Economic Forum who seem to be the implementation arm of Agenda 21/30, it will be a top-down-one-way-only technocracy where survivors will be controlled.
Not very cheerful but, for what it’s worth, that’s the way I see it. I offer an essay and video below that I hope are of interest. I would also recommend that you might like to read up on the UN’s Agenda 21/30 and the WEF’s Great Reset and Fourth Industrial Revolution to see how much planning and funding has gone into our brave new world.     
Kindest regards.
https://activistpost.us1.list-manage.com/track/click?u=3ac8bebe085f73ea3503bbda3&id=af402b9d72&e=1003efb3a3
  

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Jez Hewitt
Jez Hewitt
3 years ago
Reply to  MTF

Read The Creature From Jekyll Island. It tells you all about the banking dynasties, and I ain’t talking about your high street bank. More the ones that could, can and do pull the strings that manipulate our sorry lives. Then look up a chap called Patrick M Wood, read his books or listen to his podcast with Dellingpole and hear all about the Trilateral Commission.

This isn’t about money which is soon to be obsolete. It’s about the resources that money can currently buy. Geopolitical and global resources.

These nefarious fucks have their reasons and don’t relish the idea of getting their hands dirty whilst pursuing them, kind of hoping to keep their heads on their shoulders whilst they and their kin enjoy the spoils.

This wasn’t even supposed to happen for a little while yet but I suspect Brexit had someone get a little nervous about the beginnings of a swing towards populism and they certainly couldn’t watch the EU start to splinter.

The 2008 financial crash should have blown up a whole lot worse than it did, all thanks to money printing. How many bankers do you remember going to jail?

The 2019 Repo market crash was even more significant – if you don’t know what that market is, that’s because MSM kept a lid on it – a bit like they’re doing now with censorship and toeing the narrative line.

You’ll notice I haven’t even mentioned the virus yet. I think Dr Yeadon’s a tad more qualified. There’s some pretty smart people tearing the lies apart – now ask why they’re not being given the time of day by MSM?

Then look out of your window and tell me all about the deadly pandemic you see.

We mean absolutely nothing to these people. Consider this the lull before the storm. They’ve barely even started.

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Julian
Julian
3 years ago
Reply to  MTF

“Why would anyone want to kill billions of people? There have been plenty of mass murderers but they had reasons, appalling reasons, but reasons. This supposed project seems to have no reason.”

I don’t happen to believe that the aim is to kill billions of people, but I think assuming people have to have “reasons” if by reasons you mean sensible, understandable motives then I’m not sure I agree. Did Hitler, Stalin and Mao have “reasons”? What were they, beyond the lust for power?

“I am not an expert in any of the relevant science so I can’t respond responsibly to all of the “lies” but there are many people who are just as expert as yourself who would dispute each one.”

I’m not an expert either. Do you think experts don’t lie? Given that this matter is important, as a non-expert, do you believe that covid is a global public health catastrophe that merits unprecedented intervention, or a nasty respiratory virus that has pushed average life expectancy back a few months, to 2008 levels?

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MTF
MTF
3 years ago
Reply to  Julian

No – I don’t mean sensible understandable motives. I mean something that could conceivably be a means to a conceivable end.

Hitler – purification of the race, elimination of perceived threat for lesser races

Stalin/Mao – force the move to a state run economy for all, elimination of perceived threat

Some experts may lie some of the time but do you really believe the majority of experts from across a range of countries are all perpetrating the same lies?

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Z.Pray
Z.Pray
3 years ago
Reply to  MTF

I suggest that your difficulty might arise from your being shocked at the reality of a ruthless world you didn’t realise existed.
What I tried to suggest is that this situation has developed over decades if not longer and for the participants it’s just their job. Most don’t think – they keep their heads down and accept their salaries. Those who try to alert a dim public are smeared, threatened, sacked and worse. Also, those working within these tyrannical bureaucracies are trained into hopelessness by the power of the top-down-one-way-only hierarchies. And even the strongest ones know they’ll not only lose their job if they speak out, but will find it very hard to find equivalent employment. Of course, the MSM are no longer the Fourth Estate – they have all been compromised.  

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HelenaHancart
HelenaHancart
3 years ago
Reply to  Mike Yeadon

Thank you, Mike, for your courage, and for speaking out. A truly excellent presentation. I’ve shared this.

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Hugh
Hugh
3 years ago

“Nasty Nats mask rules could pressure care home managers into forcing elderly to wear masks” (Herald article – paraphrased, but that’s the gist).

Quite sickening – when will the abuse of the elderly end?

Quite frankly, the way the elderly and the young have been treated is one of the most distasteful aspects of this whole sorry affair.

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Annie
Annie
3 years ago
Reply to  Hugh

Distasteful?
Disgusting, appalling, criminal, wicked, inconceivably evil.

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JayBee
JayBee
3 years ago
Reply to  Hugh

The young are all in to it and love their masks.
The vast majority of them fully deserve their upcoming slavery.
Same for the old who do not have to live in care homes.

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HelenaHancart
HelenaHancart
3 years ago
Reply to  JayBee

They do! We tried to talk to people locally, to raise mask exemption awareness, and responses ranged from hostility to complete vagueness as to why they’re wearing them. some were still terrified of the virus or of authority. But most absolutely love them now, they liked to give out the message that they’re a good, upstanding person, that they’re clean, and that their mask is a symbol of their virtuosity. Others wore them because their friends did. So there we have it. Leave them to it now….

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Hugh
Hugh
3 years ago

“Is it ethical to make vaccines compulsory”?

Of course it jolly well isn’t, forcing experimental, dangerous treatment on people – and the loss of good care workers this would result in – is criminal and obviously harmful to the elderly.

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ScepticSteve
ScepticSteve
3 years ago
Reply to  Hugh

It’s absurd that this compulsory gene therapy against a mild cold or flu virus is even up for debate, which is like having two writers argue for and against the premise that the Sun rises in the east in the tropics. And the nutjob arguing in favour of compulsion is a “professor emeritus in bioethics”!

In 2008 the four commonly accepted principles of health care ethics were defined as:

1. Principle of respect for autonomy,
2. Principle of nonmaleficence,
3. Principle of beneficence, and
4. Principle of justice.

https://depts.washington.edu/bhdept/ethics-medicine/bioethics-topics/articles/principles-bioethics

These principles have gone out the window, in our brave new normal of having most of the public brainwashed by propaganda that’s been formulated by behavioural ‘scientists’, and broadcast on the BBC.

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Barbara Baker
Barbara Baker
3 years ago
Reply to  ScepticSteve

The bullet points apply to health care (medical) ethics….which they wish to use as a cover for bioethics – which is basically the new moniker for eugenics as espoused by Ezekiel Emmanuel – leading bioethicist and eugenicist.
The first para lays out the progressive aims of this particular “science”:

“The place of principles in bioethics
Ethical choices, both minor and major, confront us everyday in the provision of health care for persons with diverse values living in a pluralistic and multicultural society. In the face of such diversity, where can we find moral action guides when there is confusion or conflict about what ought to be done? Such guidelines would need to be broadly acceptable among the religious and the nonreligious and for persons across many different cultures”

It then goes on to conflate those true medical ethical principles with their specific proclivity for separating society into religious and cultural groups by which they can ration out healthcare according to the value they place on individuals and/or groups
So no surprise the professor emeritus in bioethics is on board with mandatory gene therapy

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huxleypiggles
huxleypiggles
3 years ago
Reply to  Hugh

And that is the intention.

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BurlingtonBertie
BurlingtonBertie
3 years ago
Reply to  Hugh

There is a poll on medscape today asking whether the “vaccine” should be mandatory. 58% say yes…

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charleyfarley
charleyfarley
3 years ago
Reply to  Hugh

Isn’t it incredible that that question is even asked?!

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Hugh
Hugh
3 years ago

“Pfizer jab 100% safe”.

Blimey, more lies on the BBC (remember that story about children’s wards filling up with Covid patients?)

Better off with GBN – which the BBC tried to sabotage, according to Andrew Neil.

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Annie
Annie
3 years ago
Reply to  Hugh

Lies on the BBC , in a programme aimed at children.
The lying brutes sink lower and lower into the bottomless pit.

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TheyLiveAndWeLockdown
TheyLiveAndWeLockdown
3 years ago
Reply to  Annie

The best lesson they can do, is to make sure you don’t trust the state media.

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chris c
chris c
3 years ago
Reply to  Annie

How sick am I, I hope when they start vaccinating children, as they will, the deaths and injuries will be harder to explain away than in old people, and footballers. This could break the agenda.

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eastender53
eastender53
3 years ago
Reply to  Hugh

Not t just the BBC. Some woke charity has circulated GBNs advertiser’s warning that GBN is not ‘on message’s and their products should not be associated with it. Some large accounts have been pulled already.

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TheyLiveAndWeLockdown
TheyLiveAndWeLockdown
3 years ago
Reply to  eastender53

Funnily enough I look at that as an positive opportunity to pull my purchasing of their products from “on message” brands.

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chris c
chris c
3 years ago
Reply to  TheyLiveAndWeLockdown

Yes I always worked on the principle that if something needed advertising it probably wasn’t worth buying. So I probably don’t buy any of their products anyway, but if I did I would stop.

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SilentP
SilentP
3 years ago

Devi Sridhar, whether misguided or evil, is definitely spreading damaging falsehoods.

She should be removed from being in a position of influence.

Some lessons to be learned from the woke brigade, who have been very effective in getting people deplatformed and hounded out of jobs

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eastender53
eastender53
3 years ago
Reply to  SilentP

I’d come down on the side of evil. She is an unelected civil servant following a personal agenda. The worst kind of ‘I know what’s best for you’ demagogue. Sadly she appears to have Krankies ear so she’ll probably survive this affair

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huxleypiggles
huxleypiggles
3 years ago
Reply to  SilentP

Sridhar is evil at the Mengele level. Seriously dangerous and deranged.

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Mark
Mark
3 years ago
Reply to  SilentP

Indeed, but her lies in this case (as so often) are being disseminated especially effectively by means of the regime’s communicatjons network, the BBC.

Nothing new, the BBC has been spreading manipulative social engineering propaganda for decades.

Defund the BBC.

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Fingerache Philip
Fingerache Philip
3 years ago

Office workers to be allowed to work from home (DM) as a default law and not to be forced to go to their place of work, meanwhile carehome staff (some of the lowest paid in the country) are threatened with the sack,etc).
DISCRIMINATION, WHAT DISCRIMINATION?

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DanClarke
DanClarke
3 years ago

Will the hospitality workers be allowed to work from home, can they claim discrimination if not. The WFH office workers wont like that when they can’t get a meal or drink served.

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BJs Brain is Missing
BJs Brain is Missing
3 years ago

This nightmare only ends when enough people say it ends. It’s not up to dictator Johnson or Hancock. When is this simple concept going to register with people?

How many more lies have to transpire, before the penny drops with so many?

I never, in a million years, would have believed that so many British people, could have been brainwashed so easily. It has, and continues to be, a tragic national suicide.

I predict a mass emigration in the near future to the American free states e.g. Texas, Florida, South Carolina and Georgia.

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DanClarke
DanClarke
3 years ago
Reply to  BJs Brain is Missing

I went to the pub yesterday, hot day, not a mask in sight apart from the poor staff. Asked to sign in with a wave of a hand towards a book, so didnt bother. The pub and the garden were packed. So not everyone is taking notice of the Westminster fools, who have fooled themselves into thinking that its all going to plan

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BJs Brain is Missing
BJs Brain is Missing
3 years ago
Reply to  DanClarke

That’s good to hear.

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JayBee
JayBee
3 years ago
Reply to  BJs Brain is Missing

Not so easy to establish legal residence there though….

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huxleypiggles
huxleypiggles
3 years ago
Reply to  BJs Brain is Missing

“A tragic national suicide.”

Sadly, that is depressing well put.

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JayBee
JayBee
3 years ago

Jon Dobinson nails it but still doesn’t quite get it: it’s all done deliberately, for a most sinister purpose, has nothing to do with public health and Johnson is all-in as well.

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Mark
Mark
3 years ago

“Let me know if you want to advertise. And I’ll let you know if we want your ads. Or whether we organise a boycott of you.”

Good to see Andrew Neill dishing out his unusually robust response to cancel culture, pioneered at the Spectator.

If only more people would take this kind of attitude to the woke. Fewer “apologies”, less kowtowing, and more “f*** off” would go a long way to clearing up our massive societal problems with the judgemental, intolerant and sanctimonious woke left.

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Paul B
Paul B
3 years ago
Reply to  Mark

Had a nice email from Greg last night and one of his minions this morning.

Just waiting to see which other chips fall before committing my cash. TBF Octopus have been rubbish, but until today it was more hassle to move.

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Mark
Mark
3 years ago

“Washington’s Inoculation Gamble” – Julius Reuchel does what public health authorities have refused to do and calculates the “odds of death from the virus so you can weigh those odds against the risks of getting the jab”

An interesting and valiant attempt at this hugely difficult task. A lot of assumptions that could be open to question, and necessary approximations, leave this kind of calculation basically useless in persuading the committed panicker, due to their hyper-rational fixation on picking holes in anything that doesn’t suit their panic agenda.

But it basically ends in what any honest gut assessment must surely find – that the risks of the disease have been hugely exaggerated and are really insignificant for the vast majority, that the risks of the vaccines, so far as we can know them, are likewise small but have conversely been massively downplayed, and that for the vast majority of the population there can be no rational justification, in risk terms, for vaccination.

This is the conclusion I reached for myself right at the outset, based on the clear very low risk levels of the disease for those not very old or already very ill, and the known non-zero risk levels accompanying all vaccines (and indeed almost all significant medical treatments).

I said back in April last year that if a vaccine were to be developed you’d have to be literally irrational to take it, unless you were in a very unusual vulnerable category. That early conclusion has proved robust.

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Mark
Mark
3 years ago
Reply to  Mark

Also, importantly, it tackles head on the false argument beloved of coronapanic zealots that getting vaccinated is supposedly an altruistic act aimed at protecting others.

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Rogerborg
Rogerborg
3 years ago

Oh, bore off, Baker.

That weeping sore didn’t even call for a vote on the Tyranny Act, let alone voting against it. He just blubbered then passed it on the nod, like every single last one of them.

He did this to us, and he has to go, along with the whole lot of them. The demographics in his constituency will take care of that, granted.

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JayBee
JayBee
3 years ago

The Julius Ruechel article and calculation is rather splendid.
If you are under the age of 50 and healthy, you must be completely incapabale of doing maths if you chose to get gene-therapied.
But his article on the Covid lies and numbers in Canada is even more impressive.
In it, he demonstrates that 98.6% of all Covid deaths through outbreaks happened in care homes, hospitals and prisons and calculates, generously for the officials, that 75% of all deaths happened in those 3 settings.
Meaning that even the elderly with pre-conditions were and are extremely safe outside of those 3, without the ‘vaccines’.
And the death rate in care homes (and hospitals and prisons to a lesser extent too) could have been almost halved by more intelligent staff management there, which would have made a multiple of difference compared to all other restrictions and NPIs together!
Worth reading in full.
https://www.juliusruechel.com/2021/05/the-lies-exposed-by-numbers-fear.html
https://web.archive.org/web/20201002055509/https://www.mcknights.com/news/researchers-find-how-44-percent-of-nursing-covid-19-deaths-could-be-prevented/

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eastender53
eastender53
3 years ago

Another ‘scientist’. Where, in any document, is it even claimed that the Vaccines provide immunity? More sheep fodder.

Prof Paul Elliot, who directs the study, said: “We can take quite a lot of comfort from the fact that when we look in the details, it does appear that there is very, very good protection in the older ages, where there is virtually everyone double vaccinated.
“The government has clearly announced that they want to vaccinate all adults in the period between now and 19 July. That will make a very big difference and increase the total amount of population immunity.”

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ellie-em
ellie-em
3 years ago
Reply to  eastender53

What the government wants and what the government gets are two different things.

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Silke David
Silke David
3 years ago

This newsroundup shows exactly how stupid all this is:
First item: Leaked Whitehall paper with restrictions which will continue after 19th July, eg mask wearing
2nd Item The sun reports Hancock assures no masks after 19th July

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Julian
Julian
3 years ago

Has this been covered on LS? Senior minister whose job it is to manage delivery of healthcare advocates denial of treatment based on personal choices. What’s next – refuse to treat anyone who has put themselves in harm’s way, according to whose mad, arbitrary criteria?

https://twitter.com/JamesMelville/status/1405212965976961024

Speaking in the House of Commons this afternoon, Health Secretary Matt Hancock suggested that people who refuse a covid-19 jab, will be refused treatment on the NHS.
Hancock was responding to a question from Tory MP Liam Fox about the vaccine status of those currently receiving hospital treatment for the so-called Delta variant.
Hancock said:
“I think that there is a material difference between the states responsibility to offer the vaccine to all adults.
And the duty that we have when somebody has not been offered the vaccine is greater than the duty we have when we have offered a vaccine but somebody has chosen not to take it up. And there is a material difference between those two situations.”

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Mark
Mark
3 years ago
Reply to  Julian

Highlights again the core, inherent connection between state provision of healthcare, the false notion that the state is responsible for people’s health, and totalitarian interference of the nanny state variety, from seat belt laws at the trivial end to lockdown and coerced vaccination at the fully totalitarian end.

Once you have conceded the state’s role in this, you have essentially sold the pass on lockdown, as we have found to our cost. You can argue all you like that seatbelt laws are ok because they are (supposedly) effective and only a minor intrusion, but lockdowns are not, because they are not cost effective or they go too far, but these are essentially technical matters and matters of degree, not of fundamental principle.

But I’d be fine having NHS care withdrawn, provided they first refund all my contributions and exempt me from all the taxes used to pay for what I am now denied.

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Julian
Julian
3 years ago
Reply to  Mark

If we want the NHS and politicians not to go mad with it, we need much better protections for NHS independence and to establish the principle that it is there to serve us and not the other way round. Probably those things are impossible to achieve.

As for having NHS care withdrawn, yes, but you may well find yourself without treatment if the govt requisition the facilities and resources of private providers, which they may well choose to do.

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Mark
Mark
3 years ago
Reply to  Julian

I don’t think such tinkering will really change anything.

What we should do is return to smaller government. End the NHS. Take the state out of healthcare and recognise that the responsibility for individual health rests with individuals, families, communities etc.

The fundamental, underlying flaw is the socialist error that pretends coerced “charity” via taxation is the same as genuine charity.

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Julian
Julian
3 years ago
Reply to  Mark

On the subject of genuine vs coerced charity, if you’ve not seen this it’s worth watching, in full (like everything else he’s ever done):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fkChru9L3xA

Lecture with Justice Antonin Scalia “Is Capitalism or Socialism More Conducive to Christian Virtue?” given Friday, September 6, 2013 at The Lanier Theological Library in Houston, TX.

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Mark
Mark
3 years ago
Reply to  Julian

Looks interesting, I will watch that, though I’m not Christian myself. Scalia was intelligent, well informed and quite wise.

Here’s another way to look at it: the case against the NHS closely parallels the case against lockdowns.

Healthcare provision should be genuinely voluntary, just as precautions against disease should be voluntary. Voluntary acts are inherently more efficient and flexible, and more rapidly responsive to changing circumstances. Coerced collective measures answer to collective needs and goals, or more often, the needs and goals of those manipulating the collective provision, not the actual needs and concerns of the people being required to fund them.

All charitable healthcare should be genuinely voluntary. If people won’t fund it voluntarily, it should not happen. That might well mean some things don’t get done, but that’s how it should be.

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Julian
Julian
3 years ago
Reply to  Mark

I’m not a Christian either. Scalia also didn’t seem to worry much about conforming to norms of thought or upsetting people with his views. For years he was the lone originalist on the Supreme Court, and fought in the face of those who wanted to legislate from the bench. IMO there was never a proper conservative majority on the bench until very recently, and even now I think Thomas is the only true originalist.

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Mark
Mark
3 years ago
Reply to  Julian

Scalia’s presentation was, as predicted and expected, very good, thanks.

I adhere to the genuinely non-socialist position Scalia correctly identified when he observes “When I say least diluted by socialism, you must understand that I say it in a modern context, in which we are all socialists. In the United States that battle was fought and decided with the New Deal”
(15:27)

In this country the defeat of non-socialism was more diffuse, though arguably more complete. but I’m one of the very few irreconcilables still genuinely railing against it and its developing consequences.

30:40 “The cardinal sin of capitalism is greed, but the cardinal sin of socialism is power”

This is correct, although power is not per se a sin, so I’d say it is more accurate (and much more apt in our current political environment) to say that:

“The cardinal sin of the capitalist right is greed, but the cardinal sin of the socialist left is hatred”

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Julian
Julian
3 years ago
Reply to  Mark

It’s interesting that so many of the ills the framers of the US Constitution were trying to address have emerged anyway, with the compliance of the people. The Federal Govt has taken unto itself more and more power, though as I posted elsewhere some US states have been saved from the worst excesses of the current madness by virtue of the states retaining a fair degree of autonomy in certain areas.

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Mark
Mark
3 years ago
Reply to  Julian

Well in fairness the reason they tried to address them is precisely that they were the kinds of ways they knew or could foresee governmental systems tending to get corrupted.

Granted, they largely failed, but it was a pretty noble effort and there are still some remnants surviving. As you say, the decentralised nature of the US has been a huge help, though it’s probably on its last legs.

And that despite the disastrous emergence and universal triumph of radical socialism in the C19th/C20th, which the US founders could only have foreseen in the mot general of terms.

“with the compliance of the people”

Always good to bear in mind the US was established as a republic rather than as a full democracy for very good reasons

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Julian
Julian
3 years ago
Reply to  Mark

Elsewhere Scalia said he thought one of the major mistakes was the change from the States selecting Federal Senators to having them directly elected by the people

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JayBee
JayBee
3 years ago
Reply to  Mark

Doctors, nurses&co are in practice civil servants.
Up to 100% of their income derives from money going through the government’s hands.
Half of German doctors were NSDAP members and two thirds of dentists were.
They were by far the biggest professional class in the SS as well.
When being a civil servant meets the latent God complex of medic and an increase in status and power, there is no limit to humans possibility and willingness to commit atrocities and to the depth of their fall.

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TheTartanEagle
TheTartanEagle
3 years ago
Reply to  Julian

It is not the state’s responsibility to offer any medical treatment, prophylactic or otherwise. In a civilised society, the state should fund healthcare, but leave the provision and management to doctors. The state should look after infrastructure, power, water, sewerage, waste disposal, for public health.

Last edited 3 years ago by TheTartanEagle
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Julian
Julian
3 years ago
Reply to  TheTartanEagle

Well, who should fund healthcare is perhaps debatable, but leaving that aside, I agree that politicians shouldn’t meddle too much in what treatments get offered, though I think it’s hard in practice to stop them once you have imposed a nationalised health service.

With covid, if the medical people had been left in charge, the result may well have been the same.

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Mark
Mark
3 years ago
Reply to  Julian

The medical people at least have to work within existing laws. It’s only when the politicians get involved that panic can cause real systemic changes, threats to liberty etc.

Certainly, though the medical establishment has been a major driver in pushing for political panic responses.

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TheTartanEagle
TheTartanEagle
3 years ago
Reply to  Julian

The result would probably have been the same because of the vested corporate interests and control behind the scenes.

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Julian
Julian
3 years ago
Reply to  TheTartanEagle

And the medical people might also love the power, believe the lies etc etc

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TheyLiveAndWeLockdown
TheyLiveAndWeLockdown
3 years ago
Reply to  TheTartanEagle

“the state should fund healthcare” Coercion is never civilised especially to subside poor health choices and make the healthy pay twice, which is effectively what you’re advocating.

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TheTartanEagle
TheTartanEagle
3 years ago
Reply to  TheyLiveAndWeLockdown

Someone has to pay the wages. The state can’t be trusted, neither can insurers in the UK. But you need some way of fixing people without them being bankrupted after breaking a leg. The current system is the worst of all worlds, expensive, ineffective, and evil. Agree it has to be smaller, the over reach is unacceptable.

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BJs Brain is Missing
BJs Brain is Missing
3 years ago
Reply to  Julian

I’ve actually paid more yearly National Insurance payments than Hancock has been on this planet. Plus I have served in the Armed Forces and worked in the NHS. Should I then be refused any treatment, for which I have paid £1,000s, then prepare to be sued, Hancock.

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Julian
Julian
3 years ago
Reply to  BJs Brain is Missing

I am quite shocked at what he said actually – and that’s saying a lot given the low regard in which I hold him, and all the other lies and crap he comes out with. Andrea Leadsom was egging him on. The fact that this doesn’t seem to have been picked up on by the MSM is also a sign that we are in very bad shape.

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eastender53
eastender53
3 years ago
Reply to  Julian

They are panicking as winter approaches. When the booster is revealed for what it is, a temporary antidote for the artificial spike proteins running rampant through people’s bodies. Those of us who are free will become walking reminders of the mistakes people made. Either we or the politicians will be hunted by the mob seeking revenge or punishment. Not Zombies but Jabbies.

Last edited 3 years ago by eastender53
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JayBee
JayBee
3 years ago

Julius Ruechel’s other blog posts are well worth a read. I added three excellent ones and their highlights about about masks at today’s update BTL.
But this one is his IMO best sofar, explaining the shift from unalienable individual rights to utilitarianism and what else, solely bad for us true liberals, it means and forebodes.
https://www.juliusruechel.com/2021/03/preparing-ground-for-mass-hysteria-what.html

His last one on masks follows that thread: when we accepted mask mandates, we signed away the rights over our bodies, and more, and not just temporarily.
https://www.juliusruechel.com/2020/09/mask-laws-and-end-of-my-body-my-choice.html

And this one is brilliant as well, on the psychology of officials, the media and the mob and what it means for us critics:
https://www.juliusruechel.com/2021/04/whos-in-charge-rule-makers-power.html
“And that, dear reader, brings up the last of the players in this nightmarish Wonderland. Because don’t think that we, the critics, the dissenters, the much-maligned tin-foil-hat-wearing advocates for debate, evidence and human rights, don’t also play a role. We are not mere spectators on the sidelines. We too play a dangerous role in this mad game of chess. 
By refusing to be fooled; by looking at, documenting, and pointing at the evidence, and through our relentless demands for accountability, we risk waking up the credulous crowd and turning it into a mob baying for vengeance. And that, in turn, forces everyone whose fingerprints are on this nightmare to lash out in self defense. We’re blocking the door that gives the architects and opportunists of this nightmare a safe retreat. 
Through our mere existence, or even the mere possibility of our existence, they can no longer be 100% certain that they won’t face accountability for what was done on their watch. We are a reminder that the illusion is not absolute. We are the wind to their house of cards. We are a reminder of what is waiting for them if the music stops. So, the more mistakes they make and the more collateral damage that adds up, the more they have to double down on defending their illusion to protect their own necks.
And so, the unconscious realization begins to creep in. They must maintain control, forever, for their own protection. Critics must be discredited and silenced, for all time. The illusion must become permanent and universally accepted. That’s why we see headlines in mainstream media like, “We Must Start Planning For A Permanent Pandemic.” They have no choice now. They are now held hostage by their fear of accountability. And we are held hostage to the choices they must make. It has become a zero-sum game. Beware of the blind fury of the mob. The battle for the hearts and minds of the crowd has only just begun.”

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Fingerache Philip
Fingerache Philip
3 years ago

“There’s a guy who works down the chipshop, etc”
Sporting my anti-lockdown badge and being met with sheer horror and downright hostility during the morning, I decided to treat myself and Mrs FP to fish/chips and when I went up to the counter was served by a fellow sceptic who beamed widely and said “love your badge, mate; we’ve got got to stick together and beat these lockdown fanatic b×stards”.
Little joy in the world at the moment but a moment of cheer, and he gave us the biggest fish he could find.

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Ted
Ted
3 years ago

Not sure if this made the news roundup earlier. 8 crew members test pos. for Covid, 2 with mild symptoms. Newsworthy because all 1400 crew are all jabbed up as are all the passengers. So now ship is shut down until July. Looks like the no jab, no entry policy is going to fail to save these businesses. Fools and folly and all that.

Follow the link below to view the article.

Royal Caribbean Postpones Cruise
https://wallstreetjournal-ny-app.newsmemory.com/?publink=0330c7d9e_1345ddd

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ellie-em
ellie-em
3 years ago
Reply to  Ted

Good. Just waiting for that to happen and didn’t have to wait long.
Who are they going to blame now, the fish?

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