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halfhearted
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This is the full link to the data that Neil Clark has highlighted. Looks like the NHS (bangs pots & pans) could possibly have been allowing people to die. Surely they cannot be blamed? After all, we must protect the NHS (Envy of the World), and all the kindly GPs who are considering striking against us, and all the very busy, lovely, TikTok-dancing Nurses. Save The NHS!

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Splattt
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Turns out clapping doesnt fix illness.

We're *starting* to see the result of the NHS becoming the National Covid Service for 18 months.

Undiagnosed cancers, heart disease and other factors combined with the near impossibility to actually see a GP are starting to filter through.

It was entirely predictable and warned about but apparently the only death that matters is a covid death.

 

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JockCovidiot
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Wonder how many of these excess deaths are "sudden" or follow "a short illness" hmmmm.

Already news reports and anecdotal evidence of "unexplainable" increases in heart attacks (after injecting 80% of people with a substance known to cause clotting I don't know how it can be a mystery).

Lack of access to medical care combined with vaxx injuries/deaths will IMHO far outweigh any toll from covid. Propably already does if you use QALY's as the measure seeing how most covid fatalities were chapping at deaths door anyway.

 

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CoronanationStreet
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@jockcovidiot 

There's no such thing as a jab death/jab related death though effectively now unless formally determined by a coroner. 

The important thing is age strata in which the non-covid excess deaths appear. If 1000s of additional excess non-covid deaths are occurring in younger age groups then there must be an investigation. 

 

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JockCovidiot
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@coronanationstreet 

Your right but there won't be. Remember drop dead of a heart attack or any other reason within 14 after your jab you are counted as unvaxxed. LOL

I just laugh now it's all i can do. This is getting serious but you can but laugh at the cognitive dissonance of the sheeple.

I mean how can you take anyone seriously that actually believes in any of this shite now?

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willing vaccinee
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Which weeks were selected to arrive at 12-13% above normal?

I just did the calculation for 2021 up to week 36 and found the figure is 5.1% for England.

Strongly suspect the original statistic was based on a convenient transient in the numbers and therefore a red herring.

 

 

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halfhearted
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@thinksaboutit "...Which weeks were selected to arrive at 12-13% above normal? I just did the calculation for 2021 up to week 36 and found the figure is 5.1% for England..."

It amuses me that you believe that anyone here is going to be dim enough to believe your "data" over official figures released by the ONS. The link to the data release is in my OP. If you hover your mouse pointer over the words "This is the full link to the data" in my OP you will see the mouse pointer change into a pointing hand. Then you click. It will take you to the ONS data. Scroll down to the paragraph headed "Main Points". There follows a list of 6 bullet points. The first says

  • In Week 40, 10,807 deaths were registered in England and Wales; this was 297 more deaths than the previous week (Week 39) and 13.1% above the five-year average (1,252 more deaths).

Now scroll down to the fourth bullet point. It says

  • Of the deaths registered in Week 40 in England and Wales, 666 mentioned "novel coronavirus (COVID-19)", accounting for 6.2% of all deaths; this was a decrease compared with Week 39 (783 deaths).

So there we have it. About 13% above the 5yr average excess deaths and of those about 6% are identified by death cert as Covid deaths. Even you can work out that that means that 7% of the excess deaths are not explained by Covid. These poor people (the 7%) are dying, I contend, because our useless NHS has been allowing them to sicken, deteriorate & die.

Please continue to squirm around, inventing ridiculous lies, to excuse the appalling service us unfortunate Brits get from "The Envy of the World", it gives me a good laugh at an otherwise miserable time.

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willing vaccinee
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@halfhearted 

Yes I had spotted that you have chosen week 40 as your convenient sample.

What about all the other weeks?

 

Accumulated excess deaths to week 41 is 38,427. for England.

Accumulated covid deaths are around 76,000.

A few of these will be not necessarily caused by covid, but not many.

 

 

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willing vaccinee
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New data found from ONS.

Accumulated excess deaths to week 41 is 38,427. for England.

Accumulated covid deaths are around 76,000. 

 

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