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99% of 2021 deaths within the UK from unvaccinated

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 TTT
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Looks like the view expressed was true and backed up by the ONS data.

So... great evidence on the obvious beneficial benefit of vaccination.

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The view expressed was very misleading. The statistic covers the first 6 months of 2021 and almost all the deaths in that period occurred in the first few months when on average only about 1%-2% had been vaccinated, so a number in that sort of range would be expected even if the vaccines didn't work at all. This has been covered before https://dailysceptic.org/forums/postid/41817/

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@partytime 

You may need to revisit your estimates.

By 31 March 54.2%  and 7.8%  had first and both doses respectively.

By the end of June these numbers are 78% and 57%

The earliest published numbers were 4% and 1% on 10 January.

 

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@thinksaboutit OurWorldInData shows 0.6% fully vaxxed on 10 January, 6.6% by 31 March. Even on 10 March it shows just 2% fully vaxxed. Single dose numbers  on 10 January were 3.6% and 45.7% on 31 March for a mean of around 25%. The numbers are still hopelessly confounded by time.

The CDC has even tried a similar trick with non-COVID mortality! According to them, full vaccination was associated with a 2/3 reduction in non-COVID mortality between December and July, which again just reflects normal strong seasonality in death rates. https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/70/wr/pdfs/mm7043e2-H.pdf

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@thinksaboutit OurWorldInData shows 0.6% fully vaxxed on 10 January, 6.6% by 31 March. Even on 10 March it shows just 2% fully vaxxed. Single dose numbers  on 10 January were 3.6% and 45.7% on 31 March for a mean of around 25%. The numbers are still hopelessly confounded by time.

The CDC has even tried a similar trick with non-COVID mortality! According to them, full vaccination was associated with a 2/3 reduction in non-COVID mortality between December and July, which again just reflects normal strong seasonality in death rates. https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/70/wr/pdfs/mm7043e2-H.pdf

Best to read the UK government's official data.

Even when you search for the most convenient source, then cherry-pick your reference date, you still disprove your original assertion.

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The point is, the claim is based on outdated data. Also, does the 99% claim actually make the distinction between single vaccinated and double vaccinated? As far as I can recall, it didn't. It viewed single vaccinated people as "unvaccinated". If so, the majority of the UK population were still "unvaccinated" during most of the period in question.

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Thank you all.....have just found my login details again so apologies for not replying sooner

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