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fon
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Typical rubbish post.

A pointless spiteful juvenile barb, by a pointless spiteful juvenile? You must know by now.

what's Germany got to do with it? And what doubling time is "quite short". Is it Germany's (which is 3 weeks)

Yes. Germany is a north sea neighbour. And 3 weeks doubling time is short enough to kill our health service soon enough from the present state. Let me step you through it, very slowly, In hospital today: 8th April 2021 - 12,000,
by 2 May 24,000, 23 may : 48,000
by 13 June 100,000, 4 July 200,000
by 25 July 400,000 (that's "basically" Liverpool)
by 15 August, a mil near enough (who cares you're dead perhaps.)

Point proved. By July if it were to takes off as it has in Germany, instead of on holiday in Ibiza, we'll all be employed as fucking grave diggers you dunce. And they have painstakingly learned the power of exponential expansion, they are very dim, and it takes a while to sink in.
or the UK's (which is not doubling at all because the "cases" are falling). On top of that the link doesn't work, at least not from me.

True, thanks to lockdowns and vaccines the uk is now better off than Germany and cases are presently falling in most regions, they are not falling in Wales, Scotland or the North East now. And it might turn, it has oft before. Now go away and be horrible some place else.

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fon
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Rhetorical question, I presume, but there never has been any sane justification at all, for the way it was done. Maybe, if the dust settles, it will become evident which countries/nations did worse than others. The UK (as a whole) will be ...

Rhetorical question, I presume, but there never has been any sane justification at all, for the way it was done. Maybe, if the dust settles, it will become evident which countries/nations did worse than others. The UK (as a whole) will be ...

Rhetorical question, I presume, but there never has been any sane justification at all, for the way it was done. Maybe, if the dust settles, it will become evident which countries/nations did worse than others. The UK (as a whole) will be ...

As Chiang Kai-shek remarked when asked about the efficacy of the French Revolution- it's still too soon to tell if it worked. So the response to covid19 will be the subject of a long period of intense international reflection and research, perhaps lasting as long as the analysis of the great depression or Hitler's Germany. From memory, the mistakes of the great depression only became common orthodoxy with the rise of Keynesian Economics, 6 to 10 years after the dust had settled. And Keynesian Economics is still a subject of great dispute today, Keynes, basically had a commonsensical view of what to do for the best, rather than a theoretical view, he is most famous for his wry observation that “in the long run we are all dead anyway”, whatever the truth his workmanlike view of economics (i.e. do whatever it takes to keep the show on the road) has staved off another Great Depression right up to the present day.

I do not think there will be a speedy resolution to the virus question, there might merely be a consensus on best or worst practise, that may, or may not include lockdowns. Only time will tell. I do not think history will give a kind summary to the British reaction.

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RichardTechnik
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What data and predictions do people supporting continued lockdown base their position on?

I think their main fear is the EU third wave, blowing the top off icu capacity, which is just being discovered in Germany now:

1 min 48 in:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Xj-jC4Dh8Y

The trouble is that doubling time is quite short, and one more double means icu wards full.we have far fewer icu beds per person here. At present, the uk is doing well

Not so much their fear but their much needed opportunity. But the so-called 'third wave' which the desparate to prolong restrictions are hanging onto are winding up the MSM propaganda machine with is not anywhere quite so evident in Worldometers Germany
Anyway we all know you can manufacture a blip/ripple/wave by winding up testing. Its deaths that count and Germany's deaths have not significantly risen
You might look at neighbouring Poland and conclude since they closed their borders a year ago that they are having their 2nd wave now.

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