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Below is a series of tweets from a man named Gluboco Lietuva in Lithuania. He shares his experience as an outcast in his country because he and his wife refuse to take the COVID jab. Now all freedom is lost to the people in charge.

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2021/10/taste-life-without-covid-passport-lithuania-freedom-gone-social-outcast/

With no Covid Pass, my wife and I are banished from society.
We have no income.Banned from most shopping.Can barely exist.
But we will not accept authoritarianism.
Here’s how life looks after one month in Lithuania,under Europe’s first strict,society-wide Covid Pass regime:
1/
My wife and I have been suspended without pay for 4 weeks.
We can’t return to our jobs.
Not sure our employers would let us back.
Even if they did, our colleagues despise us, wish on social media for our death. Nothing we can do will ever erase that. We can’t work there.

2/
We can’t find new jobs in our professions.
My wife and I have very different jobs in very different fields. But all jobs in both our fields now require the Covid Pass.
No Pass, no job.

3/
We’re not allowed to buy food in the local supermarket.
We may only shop in small stores with street-facing entrances which mainly sell food,pharma,glasses/contacts, or farming/pet supplies.
In our area, that effectively limits us to one small, expensive convenience store.

4/
The Pass has wreaked havoc with the free market.
Supermarkets which require the Pass report shopper traffic is down 25% in the month since the Pass was imposed.
But in the small stores where the Pass isn’t required, it’s up only 0.7%.
So where have the shoppers gone?

5/
We now buy food in old Soviet-style markets: outdoors, in parking lots, products sold on street, tiny tables, or from back of cars. Produce, eggs, cheese, meat, fish. Cash only. No Pass required.
Not as convenient as a supermarket. But it works for now. Life finds a way.6/Image
I need to make some home repairs. But without a Pass, I can’t enter the hardware store to buy supplies.
I can’t call for a repair worker because repairs are banned for non-Pass holders. And I have no income now to pay for outside help anyway.
So our home stays unrepaired.

 

 

 

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(@ewloe)
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(@ukresponse)

but The Gateway Pundit (TGP) is an American far-right fake news website.

hence you are helping them to spread fear.. fear ... fear, you cannot help yourself, since toy are gripped by fear ... fear ... fear...

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(@freeman-exiled)
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@ewloe

Wow. Does that mean that every single website that has this article is a far- right fake news website?
I'll add these two to help continue your rabid frothing at the mouth.
This has a full easy to read version.
https://riotimesonline.com/brazil-news/modern-day-censorship/how-recent-vaccine-mandate-laws-in-lithuania-and-throughout-europe-have-upended-my-familys-life /

https://www.zerohedge.com/covid-19/lithuanian-without-vaccine-pass-describes-life-under-medical-tyranny

"But in our case, we have a further issue. Medical exemptions are only for allergies.

My wife has a long-term progressive disease. Based on data from both the vaccine trials and countries which publish real-world side-effect statistics, we are worried that the vaccine could trigger serious side effects in the short term or worsen her condition in the long term.

Additionally, she’s pregnant with our third child.

We discussed our concerns with the specialist doctor who has treated her for years. The doctor researched the topic and said that she is at increased risk of severe adverse effects due to her condition. We presented to the authorities a note written by the doctor detailing my wife’s situation and concluded that vaccination is therefore not worth the risk for her."

"Our request was rejected. My wife will not receive an exemption from the Opportunity Pass restrictions. We received no explanation. As far as we know, there is no appeal."

"We’ve re-entered into a world where you have to whisper about your opposition to government policies, where you have to scan your documents to eat in a restaurant. Where you’re suspended from work without pay for non-compliance. And where fear compels you to undergo medical treatments,"

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Except most of that is rubbish.

Essential shops are still allowed (so dont need soviet style car park markets).

Repairs would be allowed.

They can also get a lateral flow if they don't want a vaccine.

Its awful, but doesn't need that exaggeration.  It just detracts from the real issues.

 

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(@ewloe)
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Posted by: @splattt

Except most of that is rubbish.

Essential shops are still allowed (so dont need soviet style car park markets).

Repairs would be allowed.

They can also get a lateral flow if they don't want a vaccine.

Its awful, but doesn't need that exaggeration.  It just detracts from the real issues.

 

@ukresponse just needs to exaggerate the fear... fear .... fear ... 

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(@freeman-exiled)
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@splattt 

doesn't need that exaggeration?

When you have been suspended without pay, at increased risk of being crippled, killed or losing your baby if you get injected, get abusive hate mail from hysterical fear mongering 'friends', blindsided by officialdom , severely restricted services and facing a future as a refugee in your own country and you call that an exaggeration?

Only PCR test is accepted. Not a lateral flow test.
"The government only recognizes the test as valid for 48 hours from when the swab sample is taken, not when you receive the result from the lab.."

Isn't it wonderful in this panic ridden era, over something equal to the common cold , that they can bring back the nostalgic feeling of the Anschluss and Soviet passport system combined with the modern nightmare of realtime digital surveillance.

Either you've had such a terrible life or you're blind to the reality around you. Maybe you enjoy such a 

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(@splattt)
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@freeman-exiled 

 

..and thats the problem - NONE of the first paragraph is actually true.  It's an exaggeration that becomes a lie.

"The cabinet also decided that an antigen test will be valid for 48 hours to obtain the national immunity certificate as of September 13. "

So yes, a lateral flow is perfectly acceptable.

As is inter-city travel.

Again, exaggerating the problems detract from any valid argument that existed.  Just makes it far easier to dismiss.

 

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(@freeman-exiled)
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@splattt 

It's a moot point. Restrictions were implemented but then removed on Intercity services. Even if an antigen test is available they still need to be certified. Wether injected, infected and recovered within 180 days or tested they still need proof to be able to use the majority of services.
 
So you can board a bus but can't shop unless you prove your status and have your papers scanned. Students can get to the university but need to be certfied to be able to study. 
But hey, they could get an antigen test for 48 hours but a no jab no job policy kinda kicks that in the teeth.
 
By making the testing puntive and even more stifling and oppressive it coerces people to be jabbed. Demanding continuous weekly tests or only a 48 hour pass, at an a price, adds up to a hefty cost to have Opportunity and freedom. Yet they will claim freedom of choice, 'you chose to be injected we did not force you'. 
 
It's like saying a condemned person can choose between a firing squad or lethal injection and then claim it was their choice to be executed.
 
Government scraps mandatory vaccination idea but moves to make workers pay for tests
 
 
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 jmc
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@splattt 

 Actually most of it looks completely correct. As a quick search on "Galimybių Pasas" will show. Small shop owners (<1500M) and small businesses can demand the Galimybių Pasas.

Just a taste..

https://www.15min.lt/tema/imuniteto-pasas-galimybiu-pasas-80768

As for @ewloe description of Gateway Pundit as "Far Right Fake News".  Its actually got less "fake news" on it than the "Far Left Fake News" sites like Huffington Post, Vox, or Buzzfeed. Although like all sites of its type the tone the headline often does not match the body of the story. So just like most newspapers like the Daily Mail or Guardian.

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Go here for the on-paper facts (I put it like that because how this works in the real world is another question):

https://koronastop.lrv.lt/en/covid-19-related-restrictions-1

That's linked to from the Lithuanian government's page here:

https://lrv.lt/en/

Note: this is official information; it is not journalism.

Non-holders of what is described as the "National Certificate (Covid Passport)" are banned from

* "access to non-essential stores",

* "access to stores whose main activity is the retail of food [...] and whose sales area is above 1500 sq m" (that would include any large supermarket)

They are, at least for now, allowed to use public transport.

It seems to be test results that are required for the NC, not vaccination. (See page at first link above.)

 

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(@splattt)
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So unlike the claim they can quite freely go shopping, travel, work and have repair people come around.

They do not need to be vaccinated.

 

Exaggeration detracts from any valid message.

 

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