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As close to Great Barrington as any nation has sailed.


lordsnooty
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So that's what it came to in the end, we finally chose to climb into the same boat as Sweden, plenty of guidance and warnings for the public, and very little in the way of legal force.

It is a victory for sceptics, and it is a total defeat for the WHO and Tedros Ghebreyesus.
To be or not to be masked. That is the question. Whatever the individual decides, the nation will sit in the same boat as Sweden. It is as close to Great Barrington as any nation has sailed. Perhaps increased infection of those at lower risk really will lead to a build-up of immunity in the population that will eventually protect those at higher risk from the virus. It is an act of faith. So we are finally in the hands of Sunetra Gupta. Outwardly she seems wise, let us hope her wisdom yields material benefits.


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CoronanationStreet
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Temporarily. It's only designed to be a temporary reprieve and will probably be used to create the same conditions needed for a lockdown as was the case before Christmas. A reprieve as a stick to beat the citizens of this country with later.

In Parliament, thankfully, Mark Harper directly asked the question of Javid about the nature of testing i.e. a "casedemic" is not a real epidemic.

At least he marked the cards.


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lordsnooty
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It is not over yet, many of the lefty academics out there are still playing tug of war.
The forces of scientific ultra-caution still think they have a chance.

Richard Hoton , Deepti Gurdasani, Gabriel Scally and the others are still out there, pulling like mad, they've lost , they don't accept it yet... this is more exciting that the Euro 2020 final. Keep pulling guys, we've got to put these people out of action permanently. We are into penalties now, we are one or even two goals up, but these beggars are still at it. We need a total Barrington , knock out victory to put these cretins down.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ihLq-eMtNJI


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Ben Shirley
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So that's what it came to in the end, we finally chose to climb into the same boat as Sweden, plenty of guidance and warnings for the public, and very little in the way of legal force.

It is a victory for sceptics, and it is a total defeat for the WHO and Tedros Ghebreyesus.
To be or not to be masked. That is the question. Whatever the individual decides, the nation will sit in the same boat as Sweden. It is as close to Great Barrington as any nation has sailed. Perhaps increased infection of those at lower risk really will lead to a build-up of immunity in the population that will eventually protect those at higher risk from the virus. It is an act of faith. So we are finally in the hands of Sunetra Gupta. Outwardly she seems wise, let us hope her wisdom yields material benefits.

There is to be a vote in Parliament on 13th July to decide whether or not vaccinations should be mandatory for people who work in care homes. You can guess how that's going to go, and you can use your imagine to see where it might lead.


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RichardTechnik
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It is not over yet, many of the lefty academics out there are still playing tug of war.
The forces of scientific ultra-caution still think they have a chance.

Richard Hoton , Deepti Gurdasani, Gabriel Scally and the others are still out there, pulling like mad, they've lost , they don't accept it yet... this is more exciting that the Euro 2020 final. Keep pulling guys, we've got to put these people out of action permanently. We are into penalties now, we are one or even two goals up, but these beggars are still at it. We need a total Barrington , knock out victory to put these cretins down.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ihLq-eMtNJI

Horton is a mendacious political editor ; Scally is the worst kind of public health wannabe tyrant.
Who cares. Congratulations on yet another identity. Did your shrink not suggest you consolidated the schizophrenia. Uts a well known fact that 3 aliases are beyond the stable capability of most: Its too mentally challenging. But hey ho...


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TheEngineer
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"We Must “Proceed With Caution”, Says Boris Johnson ".

Of course Boris will not free us completely; that would not suit the globalists' policies with which he so eagerly complies. He is simply not to be trusted. We have a puppet government and it is well past time that the populace at large realised that.


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lordsnooty
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Its too mentally challenging.

It is easy to eliminate/cancel crazy stalkers with this feature. Here's my set.


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Nobody
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"lefty academics" this is something I actually know about! They need to produce the institutional conditions for capital-flows into the institutions they rely upon, they usually do this through signifying problems for others, like politicians, who, also, need to appear to be able to refer adequately to social reality so they usually satisfy the bureaucratic demand for social knowledge that produces "policy". They are parasites. Look at the sectors of education they work in, they depend on a progressive devalution or "democratisation" that provides them with resources under the guise of a function they don't perform.


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Nobody
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"We have a puppet government and it is well past time that the populace at large realised that."

If there is one thing that has been exploded in this pandemic it is the whole nature of governance. This has made clearer than any other historical event the fact that the global states have no political or ethical principle and are merely all operating in a space of possibilities defined for them by agencies above them.


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I wish we were.

But I think we are only here precariously, because Boris has been unwillingly forced into it by fear of Sir Graham Brady et al. Boris is convincing neither about lockdown nor about freedom. As he has pretty much absolute emergency powers, I fear that a Friday afternoon meeting with a SAGE lobbyist for lockdown could easily throw us back into full lockdown, supported by Labour.

In the press conferences, there was precious little to suggest a Great Barrington conversion. It was more like a sheepish, cowardly inch towards some freedoms. Still, I can understand that the stakes are high and Boris has a bad experience with Covid himself, making him what looks like a nervous wreck. Don't we deserve to be led by someone who is capable of being a leader and can speak convincingly about their policies?


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lordsnooty
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Posted by: @frankiib

I wish we were.

But I think we are only here precariously, because Boris has been unwillingly forced into it by fear of Sir Graham Brady et al. Boris is convincing neither about lockdown nor about freedom. As he has pretty much absolute emergency powers, I fear that a Friday afternoon meeting with a SAGE lobbyist for lockdown could easily throw us back into full lockdown, supported by Labour.

In the press conferences, there was precious little to suggest a Great Barrington conversion. It was more like a sheepish, cowardly inch towards some freedoms. Still, I can understand that the stakes are high and Boris has a bad experience with Covid himself, making him what looks like a nervous wreck. Don't we deserve to be led by someone who is capable of being a leader and can speak convincingly about their policies?

 


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Nothing even close to the GBD.

We didn't even try targeted protection because "its too hard".  Not once.  No attempt made at all.

The figures show clearly the ones we should have been protecting were MORE exposed due to the locking everyone up tactic.

 


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CoronanationStreet
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@splattt Funnily enough there was some talk recently of introducing a form of targeted support for people on low incomes, providing them with alternative accommodation for self-isolation where doing so at home would be difficult. Not sure of the degree to which detail had been considered but if that's possible now then with all the taxpayers' money thrown at the response to the virus, I'd assume they could have done something along the lines of targeted protection earlier.

What did they do in Sweden? 

 


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Splattt
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Posted by: @coronanationstreet

 

What did they do in Sweden? 

 

Unfortunately very little which is why over half their deaths were care home related...

 

The use of the closed hotels for isolation was touted and ignored over a year ago.  Policy was targeted is too hard so any suggestions toward doing so will be ignored.

Its completely pointless trying it now.


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MikeAustin
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Posted by: @coronanationstreet

What did they do in Sweden? 

Full smorgasbord and lodging, I'd guess.


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