This site was coherent (when it was mainly sceptical of lockdowns)
We have strayed far from that idea and we now casually dismiss every intervention against the CoronaVirus, devised by govt. or Pharma, we have adopted a doctrine of oppose everything.That will not do.
The refutation of lockdowns was honest since it was (and still is ) a relatively untried idea in advanced modern societies, but the wholesale rejection of pharmaceutical interventions has produced only Fear Uncertainty and Doubt far exceeding that warranted by the virus.
Conclusion
Sceptics have become the main problem because you thoughtlessly eschew every possible solution. I'll explain that conclusion, since it might not be obvious to everybody.
Allow me to review some of the less political pharmaceutical interventions. I'll leave out vaccination since needles invoke a visceral reaction in some, and perhaps that is understandable, there is some evidence to suggest a vaccine that mimics aspects of the actual SARS-Cov2 virus may induce damage in itself, I will not dismiss that idea out of hand, it should be considered as possible until it is proved otherwise.
But, if vaccines are not, in the balance, useful, and if lockdowns are unhelpful then we would ask what else is there?
Some lockdown sceptics have championed ivermectin but no properly conducted trial has been able to evince its reputed efficacy, and many have tried to no avail, so we discount lockdowns, ivermectin, vaccines and we still ask what else is there?
Let me list things that remain that definitely do evince and deserve Trust Certainty and Belief.
- Dexamethasone - halves risk of winding up in ICU.
- Vitamin D - deficiency reportedly greatly increases risk of severe illness.
- 3SpiDex, a combination of dexamethasone with spironolactone, which reputedly vastly reduces risk is severe covid 19, potentially even against Omicron variant, here's a link for that.
- https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2021/11/27/spidex-drug-cocktail-could-defeat-new-covid-variant/
- molnupiravir and pxvlovid - anti-clonal antibodies (cloned from a covid19 survivor) which in trial reduce risk of severe illness by 80%.
To conclude we are in a plague where you have a 1 in 200 chance of dying , and we have drugs that halve that, and a treatment called SpiDex,that cuts the risk again by a factor of 20. I mean how small does the risk have to be? it is time to drop the fear, uncertainty and doubt and move on to trust certainty and belief.
1 in 200 chance of dying
If you get infected and become symptomatic, which completely negates T-cell immunity from prior exposure to endemic coronvirus.
To put the ratio in perspective, you also have a 1 in 200 chance of dying in a road crash in the UK, every time you get in a vehicle.
Sceptics have become the main problem because you thoughtlessly eschew every possible solution.
This is a nonsense assertion, the only thing two sceptics agree on is that a 3rd sceptic is wrong about something else, and you 'other' sceptics while stating you're sceptical about vaccines in the same post, so get of your high horse.
Molnupiravir metabolites need more study IMO, there is some concern about the safety of NHC -nucleoside triphosphate, which is also mutagenic to mammalian cells.
We could wax lyrical about Ivermectin for days and still not agree, although there's lots of studies, a lot of them on both sides of the argument have a lot of issues. I think if given early enough it helps slow infection, others disagree. Dr. Campbells discussion is a useful comparrison between Molnupiravir Vs Ivermectin IMO
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hKa3EZqofNo
Vitamin D is the 3rd major indicator for severe covid behind old age and BMI, so making sure you get your BMI in order, exercise regularly, and maintain a healthy Vit D level should be first on the list.
Other vitamins to boost the immune system should also be considered, vit C + zinc are well researched anti-viral immune boosters, vit B3, and selenium play important roles in the immune system also.
I think NAD/NAD+ should be included too, I won't go into it here since it needs a whole thread of it's own, the research trail is long and winding, but since we know the spike protien gets into the cell nucleus, and damages DNA, and we know NAD can increase longevity by 30% in animal models, and we need it for DNA repair, it is a bit of a no brainer without knowing the full story.
To put the ratio in perspective, you also have a 1 in 200 chance of dying in a road crash in the UK, every time you get in a vehicle.
Do you stand behind this obvious garbage?
If this were true life expectancy would be 2 years at the maximum.
Really, you wonder why people are quick to dismiss what you say.
You are only as good as your worst lie.
To put the ratio in perspective, you also have a 1 in 200 chance of dying in a road crash in the UK, every time you get in a vehicle.
Do you stand behind this
Of course his claim is hogwash. There is actually one micromort of risk associated with riding 230 miles (370 km) in a car.
There is a 1 in 1 million chance of getting killed in a crash during a 230 mile ride in a car.
@willing-vaccinee
The gov does aparently
@impobs it's pure hogwash, and decades old. you should be sceptical of claims like that.
The government are idiots. If that statistic means anything it would be that for every 200 car crashes there will be one fatality. Your chances of even being in a car crash when you journey by car must one in several thousand I would estimate.
@antitrabant Agreed, the statistic is as accurate as the OPs gov statistic, which was the point of posting it.
@antitrabant Agreed,
it's correct to admit when you are totally wrong. you should do it more often. what's your estimate of the ifr?
This site was coherent (when it was mainly sceptical of lockdowns)
We have strayed far from that idea and we now casually dismiss every intervention against the CoronaVirus, devised by govt. or Pharma, we have adopted a doctrine of oppose everything.That will not do.
A pure strawman. And total lies. Whats you game? This is not the first time you have started deliberately disingenuous threads. Full of often outright fabrications
So enough of this you must trust the Authorities, your Betters, because they know best. Bollocks. Their catastrophic incompetence and pathological lying from the very start means that not only do they not deserve any trust but that they should be held accountable in a court of law for what they have done.
Its the western governments who have been dismissive of all potential therapeutics from the beginning. Including ones that were standard treatment for reducing severity of symptoms for SARs CoV 1. They are even in the clinical treatment handbooks. Every single therapeutic you list has been discuses favorable here from the very beginning while being outright dismissed by various governments.
But you only joined 3 months ago so you missed all that it seems.
The biggest lie in your post is this is some kind of "plague". Its a new HCOV, thats all. Same kind of IFR, same kind of CFR as the other four general circulation HCOV's from which you have had many dozens of HCOV infection so far. Mostly as a child. Which are responsible *every* year for about 10% of all pneumonia deaths. Unless you are already at high risk of pneumonia ,which about 10% of the population are, mostly old, your risk of dying from a SARs CoV 2 infection in the next year are about the same as dying in a car accident. About 1 in 10,000.
If you are high risk based on the last 18 moths of stats your risk of dying of a respiratory infection has shifted little. There has been no huge spike in all causes excess deaths like there was in previous pandemics.
Some plague.
