Good evening all
After reading a lot of information about this so called wonder drug Ivermectin I am considering purchasing some Ivermectin and take it as a preventative measure and enhance my protection against Covid .
But first I wanted to get some input from some members on here that have already gone down that route and see what their experiences are .
Did you find a reputable source where you could purchase Ivermectin ? (I guess your GP won't prescribe it)
What dosage did you take an over what period of time ?
Did you experience any adverse effects ?
In a normal world I would have never dream of taking any medication without a consultation but sadly we no longer live in a normal world and most certainly lost trust in many of the health care professionals in the UK . All they seem to be interested in is to push the experimental jab on people which so far I have been able to resist and avoid .
Any insight and information would be greatly appreciated .
Thank you
Stefan
Are you seriously asking for medical advice here?
@thinksaboutit
I didn't think it was that difficult to understand my message :
I am not asking for medical advice !! I am simply asking to hear about other peoples experiences with Ivermectin !
I downloaded the dosing instructions from the FLCCC website. It's laid out very clearly along with suggestions for other supplements you might consider using to optimise your immune system. (All easily obtainable from the usual outlets)
I've been taking a weekly dose of IVM for the last 10 weeks with no problems at all. This is based on 0.2mg/kg body weight, but check the website.
I purchased mine from a source in India - (there are many, e.g Indiamart and the one I used was very helpful: it took a few emails but they took me through it step by step). You would have to find your source via Duck Duck Go: Google won't list this sort of thing.
You'll probably find PayPal will not co-operate so your source may suggest payment via something like WISE.(unless they have been similarly 'captured' by big tech in the few months since I went through this process)
I find it laughable that you can be mocked for seeking medical advice here when effectively the NHS is closed for business and they just want us to go away and die quietly somewhere else. They don't get to tell us to bugger off and then call us stupid for taking responsibility for our own health.
@jane-g .. Thank you very much for the information you have provided which has been really helpful . I am grateful also for the direction to the FLCCC website which I was not aware of before .
I have used the same sources as you to find the Ivermectin, i.e. India based pharmacies and the process was relatively straight forward .
I appreciate the comment and your support with regards to the first response I received to my post and I could not agree more with the point you made about the NHS
Best wishes
Stefan
It appears to be rather effective, both as a prophylactic and as a treatment. I remain surprised at how quite a few 'reasonably decent' clinical trials into ivermectin have been ignored (suppressed), while the recent wonderdrugs from Pfizer and Moderna were given front page headlines after a single clinical trial, run by the drug manufacturer (bias?) and where the actual detailed reporting on the trials haven't actually been published yet (so no-one actually knows how they did in detail). This is completely extraordinary, but it appears to be where we are.
Anyway, there are several sources of information about dosing for ivermectin available online. The clinical trials that have been done have used doses in the range of about 0.2 to 0.3mg per kg of bodyweight. That's about 12mg to 15mg for most people. The clinical trials generally were investigating its use as a prophylactic (one dose every two weeks) or as an early treatment (5x daily doses). Obviously those were clinical trials and you couldn't be recommended to follow them.
Buying medicines from overseas on the internet is rather foolhardy. I certainly wouldn't do it. I'd happily use a pharmacist at the country in question (for the most part -- there are exceptions), but not some weird internet site. Even veterinary medicine is going to be a million times better than dodgy website merchandise. Obviously I couldn't recommend taking medicine designed for treating horses (say). While the medicine would very likely be pure enough and veterinary ivermectin (the molecule) is the same as human ivermectin, you'd be at risk of making dosing errors, and veterinary medicine often comes with added stuff, so there'd be a real risk that you'd end up dosing yourself with Moxidectin or Praziquante (etc), which are unlikely to help. These sorts of things are buried in the datasheets, so they're not at all obvious.
Ivermectin is rather safe, but, like all medicines, has to be treated with respect. In particular, there are potential interactions and risk factors (pregnancy is one), which need to be properly considered. I'd suggest that some interaction with a medic or pharmacologist would be well advised.
Ivermectin is rather safe, but, like all medicines, has to be treated with respect. In particular, there are potential interactions and risk factors (pregnancy is one), which need to be properly considered. I'd suggest that some interaction with a medic or pharmacologist would be well advised.
In an ideal world, yes. But in the current climate I'd say 'good luck with that'.
I've rather lost confidence in our own medics who are willing to administer these injections to pregnant women on the basis of no longitudinal or even medium-term data. Quite stunning what can be stomached with sufficient financial incentive and exemption from criminal liability.
It appears to be rather effective, both as a prophylactic and as a treatment. I remain surprised at how quite a few 'reasonably decent' clinical trials into ivermectin have been ignored (suppressed), while the recent wonderdrugs from Pfizer and Moderna were given front page headlines after a single clinical trial, run by the drug manufacturer (bias?) and where the actual detailed reporting on the trials haven't actually been published yet (so no-one actually knows how they did in detail). .
That's not true, the FDA, HMRA and EMA will have access to those trials.
Let me see if I understand you, you trust the rather anecdotal and ad hoc evidence that has been assembled about ivermectin but you don't trust the clinical trials run by Pfizer and Merck, on paxlovid or mulnupiravir, which are rationally designed drugs (with understood, designed and intended mechanisms of action, namely monoclonal antibodies) and which have been vetted by the FDA, HMRA and EMA.
You might be right, or you might be spreading fear, uncertainty and doubt for reasons only known to you.
It appears to be rather effective, both as a prophylactic and as a treatment.
But that is not really true, is it, the TOGETHER trial which uncovered fluvoxamine, as well as budesonide, which are both now in clinical use, determined that ivermectin doesn’t help at all, and does not keep anyone with Covid out of the hospital any better than a placebo. Of 677 people with Covid who got 400 micrograms per kilogram of weight per day for three days, 86 ended up in the ER or hospital; of the 678 people who got a placebo, 95 went. That’s not a significant difference ...
https://www.wired.com/story/better-data-on-ivermectin-is-finally-on-its-way/
Does anyone have experience of using veterinary Ivermectin which is available for a fraction of the cost of dubious imports from India. From what I can see all additives are pretty harmless and it comes in the form if a delicious apple flavoured paste to smooth its way down the horse's throat - or so I'm told. If one were careful with the dosage why not?
it might work, since the active compound in horse dewormer is the same molecule as in in human dewormer. There is always a chance that animal drugs are not given the same quality assurance as ones intended for people.
The reason you would not not take either type for covid19, is that several proven effective medicines are available if you need them, this, along with vaccine is why we can have 40,000 new cases detected each day, but only a handful of deaths. Basically ivermectin doesn't work, and ivermectin doesn't need to work as there are better things.
The number of proved compounds against coronavirus is rising every day, before today we had molnupiravir and paxlovid, today the hrma also approved sotrovimab but it is not yet available as a tablet at the chemists. fluvoxamine, a cheap and widely available antidepressant is also been shown in clinical tests to do good as well as dexamethasone.
wrt ivermectin several clinical trials have proved that it makes no difference whatsoever to the corona virus. but if you have head lice, scabies, river blindness or heartworm any form of ivermectin in the right dose might do some good.
@ewloe Surely the problem is that all the things you mention are prescription drugs so effectively unavailable. The NHS doesn't seem to have any early treatment protocols. The official advice is just to stay at home unless and until you're so sick as to have to call an ambulance. Which seems a pretty massive abdication of responsibility. But there is massive anecdotal evidence for to the effectiveness of Ivermectin. So this is hardly the black and white issue to hat you are presenting.
@michaelh well actually, it's a bit more than that, the current advice is to get vaccinated,so here are some more cures with massive anecdotal evidence. There is massive anecdotal evidence that the grotto at Lourdes is far more effective than ivermectin. If lourdes is too far try the holy well at TrefFynnon, north Wales.There is ample anecdotal evidence that the water of the well is highly effective against everything, but in my view all cures that depend on anecdotal ebidence are no more effective than hogwash so drink some hogwash (oh, you already have tried that obvsly), that would cost you nothing but would work just as well as ivermectin, it has been shown in highly accurate clinical trials that ivermectin does nothing unless you have scabies , worms or river blindness.
@ewloe Surely the problem is that all the things you mention are prescription drugs so effectively unavailable. The NHS doesn't seem to have any early treatment protocols. The official advice is just to stay at home unless and until you're so sick as to have to call an ambulance. Which seems a pretty massive abdication of responsibility. But there is massive anecdotal evidence for to the effectiveness of Ivermectin. So this is hardly the black and white issue to hat you are presenting.
That's not true it is recmmended to take molnupiravir as soon as symptoms show . Please stop using our forum as a place to spread rumours, fear uncertainty and doubt, if that is your hobby, there are plenty of ledd harmful ones.
@ewloe That really is a bit rich. You do seem to post a lot, which suggests more than a hobby like, er, perhaps you're being paid to promote Big Pharma interests. My question was asked in all innocence but looking into your background and the nature of your posts it's clear that you are anything but a sceptic! Btw where can you get molnupirivar anyway?
@ewloe My question was asked in all innocence
And I answered you in all innocence, it works of you have worms,but it is useless for covid19,
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v_1mmnRm7EU
https://www.wired.com/story/better-data-on-ivermectin-is-finally-on-its-way/
wrt molnupiravir RTFA
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2021/12/04/covid-pill-rolled-christmas/
@ewloe you are anything but a sceptic!
I'm sceptical about all the fake news about ivermectin. I hope some of it rubs off on you.
Does anyone have experience of using veterinary Ivermectin which is available for a fraction of the cost of dubious imports from India. From what I can see all additives are pretty harmless and it comes in the form if a delicious apple flavoured paste to smooth its way down the horse's throat - or so I'm told. If one were careful with the dosage why not?
before it comes, you'll be able to get molnupiravir, if you are vulnerable. If you are not ivermectin is useless anyway.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2021/12/04/covid-pill-rolled-christmas/
before it comes, you'll be able to get molnupiravir, if you are vulnerable. If you are not ivermectin is useless anyway.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2021/12/04/covid-pill-rolled-christmas/
Molnupiravir is mutagenic, with clear indications nobody in their right mind should take it, let alone offered it by anyone who has taken the hypocratic oath. If you read the actual trial data you can clearly see our regulatory system has failed completely.
Further analysis here:
https://downloads.regulations.gov/FDA-2021-N-0758-0021/attachment_1.pdf
and here:
https://moderndiscontent.substack.com/p/the-possible-side-effect-of-mercks
ivermectin is useless anyway.
Posted by: @impobs
you can clearly see our regulatory system has failed completely.
So, the FDA, the HMRA and the EMA, the PMDA, the TGA, the DPRA, the WHO, the BTMG, and a hundred other regulatory agencies have all failed completely then everywhere in the world?
It is much more likely that your links boil down to "22. Manufacture a new truth" don't they?
https://ronaldthomaswest.com/2017/08/21/the-gentlepersons-guide-to-forum-spies/
