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jsampson1945
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What is being done to find an effective cure or preventive for Covid-19? That is, one whose effectiveness and safety no-one can deny, one which will put a stop to the contagion. As far as I know there is no publicly co-ordinated effort to this purpose. If there is one it would be good to see a reference to it.

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Posted by: @jsampson1945

 no publicly co-ordinated effort to this purpose.

 The Public do not spontaneously conduct  research, this is the job of DRUG DISCOVERY. DRUG DISCOVERY is an immensely expensive endevour, usually conducted in the research institutes of Universities (funded by the STFC)or the larger  Pharmaceutial firms or contract research  firms like biontech who doscovered the pfizer vaccine.

Presently, merck are seeking  approval for Molnupiravir, while pfizer are seeking  approval for Paxlovid.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Molnupiravir

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PF-07321332

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@ewloe I would have thought the public pays for the research one way or another. This is a forum of sceptics so I suppose one should not expect to read anything positive here. However, if the virus were de-fanged it could change things.

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@ewloe I would have thought the public pays for the research one way or another. This is a forum of sceptics so I suppose one should not expect to read anything positive here. However, if the virus were de-fanged it could change things.

 

yes, but you asked about public coordinated research. Coordination is different to paying. In some countries, mostly left-leaning, or Communist one the state responds directly to perceived needs in the public sphere. In some countries like ours, we prefer  (for cultural and historical reasons) to let market economics determine activity, obvsly, in many areas  like health or defense or transport , education, agriculture, housing .... even extreme market driven societies expect the state to involve itself. Is that what you mean by publicly coordinated effort?In our country, the state sets up a body, the STFC (science and technology funding council) or UKRI (a similar thing), and these bodies   considers applications (i.e offers ) from scientists for state grants to study ideas.Thestfc/ukri etc. make grants if they feel there is a need for such research in that area, it's a very corrupt process, steeped in crony-ism. So much money is wasted, it's unbelievable.

There are also private grant awarding charities e.g. Bill and Melinda etc. Anyway,  by hook or by crook, the Oxford vaccine got GB£68m of UK government funding, and US$1.2bn of US government funding, to support the development of their  vaccine.

And of course Merck sponsored Emory university (its own captive university) to develop molnupiravir (an atri-viral drug ), pfizer sponsored bioNtech to devise its vaccine, while pfizer developed paxlovid (another anti-viral )under its own steam.

This is why Big Pharma needs to be so big, only huge firms or governments can afford to investigate and find new drugs, it is easily possible to burn through £20,000,000 and find nothing at all. It's a risky enterprise. But if you find a useful active compound, you hit the jackpot, big time, Merck stands to make billions from molnupiravir, the business operates like this, since scientists have to eat.

It is not possible, to absolutely prove the effectiveness and safety to the extent that no-one can deny. However, medicine trials have to be conducted to a standard approved by e.g. the FDA, the HMRA, and the EMA.Again I fear a degree of crony-ism exists in that process.

So I hope that gives you enough to be doing with. It's not perfect, but no system is.

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https://www.globalresearch.ca/doctors-vs-health-authorities-clinically-proven-drugs-vs-the-jab-who-will-prevail/5746999

 

https://www.globalresearch.ca/author/peter-mccullough

 

 

Astra Zenaca have discovered a monoclonal antibody for which they seek approval. https://www.astrazeneca.com/media-centre/press-releases/2021/azd7442-prophylaxis-trial-met-primary-endpoint.html It gives 77% reduced risk of developing symptomatic COVID-19

There are many effective medicines now even for people who spurned vaccine.

Daily deaths of covid19 in the uk do not exceed 200 now. Slightly more in Germany.

 

peter-mccullough has his own wiki section on his misinformation. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_A._McCullough#COVID-19_misinformation

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