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miahoneybee
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Maybe I am being naive I dont know but for a long time ( since he came out of hospital) I have had a nagging feeling that something is not right and that boris is no longer running the country and I dont believe its just through incompetence.he is not a stupid man so what is going on?
Reading some comments yesterday I saw a few people expressing the same as I was thinking
Anyone have any thoughts on this?noone really knows but I would be interested.
The idiot scientists whitty and the other..handcock and co..seem to be giving off a smug air that suggests no matter how much you protest we cannot be removed because we know something you dont
I admit I do not watch the news ( unless by accident) or read any newspapers except to go straight to the crosswords but I have heard nothing about carrie and the baby?cummings seems to be like a shady character in the background ( another who cannot be removed) ..maybe all this is getting to me 😀 who knows.
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AfterAll
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My impression since this started was that the media were running the country, through an epidemic of rhetoric.

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Richard789
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I think he is looking for a way out of the lockdown cul-de-sac, and may be finding it. The more widespread infection has already become, the less difference any lockdown would make. There is growing recognition that there are trade-offs, for example in haggling over the price tag on Manchester's tier 3 (if Boris has to write a cheque for £60m this makes it very obvious that there is a real cost). And there is vagueness about the criteria for exit from tier 3 which could be exploited to allow exit before the lockdown hardliners are happy. He is accumulating the tools to be able to say "The balance of advantage is now on the side of relaxation". And if there is a risk of the choice being presented as merry Christmas with Boris or glum Christmas with Keir Starmer, Keir will keep his mouth shut. Of course this may just be wild optimism on my part.

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miahoneybee
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I agree but given the battle he had with the media over brexit why would he tolerate all this bull that they pump out now? I don't believe he believes half the crap.the statistics alone speak for themselves never mind the havoc , suffering and pain that has been inflicted on the population and the economic devastation that has been in my mind deliberately caused. Who is controlling him?who is controlling the media?
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Cheesyrider
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I don't think there's any particular issue with Boris - I think he had a major physical and psychological shock when he nearly died of Covid himself, and is not fully recovered, I think he's under enormous pressure as he deals with the biggest crisis this country has faced since WW2, and while his natural instincts are against lockdown, he's being driven politically to "do something" as cases rise - there's also a significant investment effect - basically if he reverses course too much now, he will have to acknowledge that he screwed up by locking down in the first place and he (politically) can't do that, plus there are now enormous vested interests in place favouring the lockdown (pharma companies, etc), and balancing all of that stuff in the middle of a crisis, and having difficulties with his fiancee and a newborn baby are enough to drive anyone crazy.

This is not to defend any of his mistakes - but I believe his instincts are in the right place and he's doing a very difficult job. The real problem was in a) setting the lockdown precedent (we should have stuck to the original herd immunity strategy announced in March, copying Sweden, before Prof Ferguson's now-debunked report scared Boris into locking down) and b) Allowing "infection rate" and "case numbers" to become the driving force in the pandemic, when it should have been deaths (or even better, a combination of virus deaths with deaths from other causes - something based on the excess death rate).

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