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rubber duck
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Thank you Ben Shirley, your post gave me hope that there are still people with morals left - "we few" indeed.

I am an expat living in the UK, I hope I can see my family and friends again one day. However, participating in a human trial is a price I'm not willing to pay.

I am bitterly disappointed by any journalist who has contributed to advocating for vaccine passport. Especially those who had claimed to be sceptics up until a few days ago. All they deserve is contempt as I suspect they have been bought.

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Derek Toyne
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What as Toby done to the 'comments you can't find anything!

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Derek Toyne
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After watching the Geert Landen Bossch interview I now realise the vaccines aren't like the normal vaccine, it won't stop you getting infected or passing the virus on to others. Think about it,it normally a vaccine takes ten years to make these covid vaccines have only taken a year,why? It's because they only prevent disease and admission to hospital. Most people will think I am alright with that but the problem is the virus will mutate due to the vaccine but that is half problem the other is that your own innate immunity will be ruined. So if you again get infected with another virus or mutant covid you won't have immunity to survive. Gerry Landen Bossch is top vaccine developer whose wrote to the WHO expressing his views to stop mass vaccination as he believes we are creating a global monster by making covid into a bioweapon.

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Mal Jones
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A couple I know recently returned to the UK from their home in France. They got Covid tests in Frace prior to thier return (which were -ve) free of charge. On their retur to the UK they were forced to pay £420 for 2 covid tests each. The test kits will be posted to them and they have to return the swabs within 48hrs. What is the point? - there's no check to see whether anyone actually swabs their nose/throat... They will self isolate for 10 days anyway - this is just insanity

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Splatt
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Do you think Sweden's strategy or New Zealand's is superior?

Sweden by a mile. NZ is unable open its borders for years safely and has an entire naïve population
Do you agree that international travel is a good thing and that it would be bad to mix unvaccinated people for hours together in a plane cabin?

Given the filtration and replenishment of cabin air combined with the studies showing maybe 1 in 10,000 people might have caught it on a plane then no, its not bad at all.
And these ARE unvaccinated people.
Do you recognise that twice as many Britons have died of covid19 than civilians in the 2nd world war?

Not of.
Should we act like it is not here?

No, we should treat it proportionately. We have a virus thats dangerous to a very small, known demographic and basically harmless to the rest.
Whereas the "safety" measures are (i) harmful to everyone and (ii) potentially increase risk to those who are endangered by it.
Why do that when we are only a month or two before we can lift lockdown?

Except we're not are we. We have "not before" dates.
Do you fear a continuation of restriction after may/june?

Of course they will. There is no way June 22nd will be like June 2019 with people able to go wherever they want, wear whatever they want and do whatever they want.

Paragraph 128 in the roadmap makes it clear long term restrictions are likely to stay.

You really think when cases spike again the end of September the government will do nothing at all this time?

Do you believe a criminal mastermind is attempting to enslave humanity?

We have a spineless PM who is too terrified to lift restrictions "just in case".

[quote[Are you specifically worried about medical notes tied to your digital identity?

Yes. On ethical, moral and security grounds.

I cant fathom for one minute why anyone would want that random access for random 3rd parties. Fine for China but not for a developed country.

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