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fon
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That is not what the Pfizer results say.
Nor Moderna.
Nor Oxford.

minor arithmetic error in last post....
Since 5m *0.52 = 2,600,000
and 2.5 m *0.94 = 2,350,000
delta is about 11%
For Pfizer , It is always at least 11% better to vaccinate all with one dose than half with two doses (worst case , could be better is Salisbury is right). Thanks for raising Moderna and Oxford, since Moderna is in particular short supply 7 million doses, we will need to evaluate the same principle on that. Do the numbers Splatt you have an aptitude for it. Let me know if it is worth the candle. It's a no brainer in the pfizer vaccine. 11% of 5m people is equivalent to half a million people being immune, very well worth the candle, we might be saving lives here boyo. Do the numbers on Moderna and tell me. Forget Oxford, we have gallons of that vaccine and can vaccinate everybody twice and do the dogs too. But do the numbers anyway, might save the price of a few pints when the pubs reopen.

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fon
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What if you do not want the vaccination?
😯

what part of "there are no plans" is the trouble? You think plans might arise... anything is possible. Google Andrew Wakefield where the whole saga is laid out. No doubt we will see it all replayed in all it's raging glory,

I don't care since I do want the vaccine for the protection i believe it confers on me and society. I may be wrong, but I'm looking at the balance of risk. You'll have to fight your own battle.

If only there were a way to remove the benefits of herd immunity from any anti-vaxxers, that way, you could run the gauntlet on you own risk nobody else's.

But that's not how it works, you will be able to refuse the jab, and shelter under the beneficence of those who take it to gain herd immunity for you. It's a bit anti-social, some might think, but that's the game.

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miahoneybee
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Not really fon its personal choice and I am not an anti vax as I keep saying but I dont want this one.i am happy to take my chances and if you want it that's fine by me. I do not believe it wont be mandatory but I will wait and see..

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Ps fon what are your reasons to try and sell the vaccine.i have not tried to persuade you not to have it ?

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fon
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Ps fon what are your reasons to try and sell the vaccine.i have not tried to persuade you not to have it ?

The standard case after Wakefield. Herd immunity arises only when sufficient number have been jabbed. Some people are not suited for vaccination, so I have been told, and for their sake it is the social duty of those who can be safely vaccinated to get jabbed to make up for the many who cannot be for various reasons.
Hence it is correct to get the jab if you can. if you have a phobia of needles or anaphalaxis etc. or just don't like it, that ok, just do something else (give blood) to make up the shortfall, and you are clear; the imaginary scales still balance.

It is good to have a social conscience. It takes a village to raise a child. And it takes a hundred people who don't like needles to say to hell with it and just get jabbed to make up for a few who just can't go through with it. That's the cost of society.

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