Glad you guys liked it, hope it brought some nice smiles to your days.
I dont know about you, but I cant see an orc now without thinking "when are they going to start dancing"
So, 17 million vaccinated yet silence on the deaths and ill effects that have occurred from the vaccine. The report I read a couple of days ago, not from government of course but from Dr. Vernon Coleman, stated 107 deaths and 49,472 injuries so far from the Pfizer vaccine.
https://www.vernoncoleman.com/jabsmuststopnow.htm
Time for government to publish the numbers so we may make an informed decision. Too many accept the government line without question.
So, 17 million vaccinated yet silence on the deaths and ill effects that have occurred from the vaccine. The report I read a couple of days ago, not from government of course but from Dr. Vernon Coleman, stated 107 deaths and 49,472 injuries so far from the Pfizer vaccine.
Dr Coleman is a longstanding anti vaxer and conspiracy theorist. Among other bonkers theories, he thinks that AIDS is a hoax.
His 107 figure is derived from a statistic of people who died from other causes soon after being vaccinated, as described here in the BMJ:
'The MHRA received 107 reports of death after the Pfizer-BioNTech vaccine, 34 after the AstraZeneca-Oxford vaccine, and 2 in which the brand of vaccine was unspecified. Most reports were for older people or people with underlying illness, the MHRA said, and a review of individual reports and patterns of reporting did not indicate that the vaccine played a role in the death. “We know, for instance, based on data from [the Office for National Statistics], that for every 100 000 doses given to people aged 80 or over, around 200 people die of natural causes within a week,” Bryan said.'
th a low R0 respiratory illness like SARS CoV 2 with very high cross immunity in the general population it would take a minimum of at least 12 to 18 months to even start getting a reliable data and statistics on actual real world efficacy rates in the general population. There is a very good reason why the approval process take 4 to 6 years on average . It takes years to gather reliable data. Years.
That's hogwash. We can calculate the relative risk reduction in trials lasting months not decades. It does not necessarily take years to gather the efficacy data. If the people who have been given the vaccine stay well, while the people given the placebo get the disease, then your vaccine works. If you want more data, use bigger groups. Eventually the dogs in the street will realise the sick people are the ones not vaccinated. You might figure it out in the end for all your bluff and bluster. Let's work out how much safer the Pfizer vaccinated people are using the real data.
22,000 vaccinated,8 got covid19, 8/22k=0.036% of group got covid19
22,000 placebo, 162 got covid19, 162/22k= 0.74% of group got covid19
We can already see that that the vaccinated group is much safer. If you want more data, increase the group sizes. But we're interested in relative risk reduction
0.036/0.74 = 5% Which means that the Pfizer vaccinated people had a 95% smaller risk of getting covid19 than those in the placebo group. That's the relative risk reduction. And this was calculated in trials lasting months not decades.
You obviously know nothing about the relevant statistics or mathematics. And based on the evidence here little or nothing about the subject of vaccines, vaccinations, the regulatory process or even basic clinical procedures or processes. Not to mention even basic epidemiology. You post little or no relevant primary source information to support your positions. I post plenty. You just repeat the same untrue statements, little more than garbled summaries of misunderstood secondary sources, over and over again with absolutely no basis in fact or any primary published literature.
In the meantime I suggest you do some reading in basic statistics and then go look at the Pfizer clinical trials again and look at those number published. Now do you see why what you wrote above is basically meaningless. No basis in fact. Calculate the actual confidence intervals given that none of those trials were actual fully randomized full demographic cohort heterogeneous test groups. Those of us who know the relevant mathematics inside out know just how wide those confidence intervals get when the sample population veers even a small bit from a truly representative fully randomized sample.
Hint, professionals only look at the confidence intervals, never the mid-value. Amateurs only look at the mid-value, never the confidence interval. The range of the confidence interval is the only important value in this data. The mid-value is only of secondary interest.
Once you have acquired even a basic knowledge of the relevant statistics I suggest you go read this..
https://www.amazon.com/Statistics-Clinical-Vaccine-Trials-Jozef/dp/3642146902
..then you will understand exactly why the 505(b)(1) timeline takes 4 to 6 years. Its the mathematics of clinical trials.
Just to let you know, I am very familiar with your posting strategy. The repeat the same half truths or garbled misinformation over and over again until all those who provide actual evidence and substantive arguments that you are completely wrong and have no real comprehensions of the subject under discussion give up. Most of the time its just the stubbornness of the willfully stupid. But sometimes its a very deliberate attempt to shutdown or control the discussion . At the moment you are heading towards the stubborn and stupid category but I can be persuaded otherwise if you keep up this type of performance.
So post some original sources to back up your positions. Show some evidence you actually know what you are talking about. Know how to research the relevant literature. In the mean time I will keep challenging you at every turn until you stop this game. If you are playing a game. Because I know how the game is played too.
So, 17 million vaccinated yet silence on the deaths and ill effects
Dr Coleman is a longstanding anti vaxer and conspiracy theorist. Among other bonkers theories, he thinks that AIDS is a hoax.
Thank, Fingal. It's best to ignore Vernon Coleman, what else can you do?
