27 March 2021  /  Updated 17 July 2021
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fon
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And sorry to burst your bubble

don't worry, it's good for a scientist to find he's wrong, if he is, which I am not since you totally confirm my original conclusion.

all lockdowns do is time displace infections, they do change the area under the infection curve.

Thank you for robustly confirming my own findings from the ZOE app data. To remind you they were
the only benefit was a 4 week delay. Whether the delay was used wisely is hard to say.

So as you confirm in your own words, the app data confirms the established science and hence we conclude that the app data is accurate and useful.
possible justification for lockdowns might be health system capacity management
There are other possible justifications, e.g. while vaccine is given to the vulnerable, or while briefly waiting for prophylactic trial results etc.

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Splatt
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if that mass testing had not happened there would have been a much steadier increase and much much less needless panic.

By far a better idea would have been to open up fully in summer when the natural reproduction rate of the virus is attenuated and let it spread at a controlled rate and at a time when hospital capacities are at minimal level.
Then we'd have had a far higher degree of population immunity by the winter months and far less surges.

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MikeAustin
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By far a better idea would have been to open up fully in summer when the natural reproduction rate of the virus is attenuated and let it spread at a controlled rate and at a time when hospital capacities are at minimal level.
Then we'd have had a far higher degree of population immunity by the winter months and far less surges.

Yes. This is a very important point that is not emphasised enough. Due to lockdowns, masking and distancing in the wider community during the easier months of the year, the opportunity to develop resistance and immunity has been severely compromised. There is more vulnerability now than there would otherwise have been. I would very much like to see some measure of the unnecessary illness and deaths caused by this.

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fon
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By far a better idea would have been to open up fully in summer when the natural reproduction rate of the virus is attenuated and let it spread at a controlled rate and at a time when hospital capacities are at minimal level.
Then we'd have had a far higher degree of population immunity by the winter months and far less surges.

Yes. This is a very important point that is not emphasised enough. Due to lockdowns, masking and distancing in the wider community during the easier months of the year, the opportunity to develop resistance and immunity has been severely compromised. There is more vulnerability now than there would otherwise have been. I would very much like to see some measure of the unnecessary illness and deaths caused by this.

Yes,repeated lockdowns pushed the crisis to the worst time of year. We were let down by our own government.

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miahoneybee
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Me too mike..
😉

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